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22nd Aug '17 12:50:48 PM bowserbros
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** Similarly to the above, the perception among western fans that Vegeta is a badass who won't take shit from anybody. In reality, Vegeta is repeatedly shown throughout the manga to be a very hotheaded and impulsive individual, with his short temper and strong sense of pride repeatedly getting him and everyone around him in serious trouble. It's quite common to see a shirt with Vegeta on it and a caption along the lines of "what's that, did I offend you? Are you really so weak that mere words hurt you," followed by numerous people pointing out how Vegeta's main role in the general bulk of ''DBZ'' boils down to him getting offended at others' words and making everything worse as a result.
5th Aug '17 1:20:38 PM SeptimusHeap
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* ''Manga/GunslingerGirl'' was taken by many to be a {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion of {{lolicon}}. Turns out, not so much...

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* ''Manga/GunslingerGirl'' was taken by many to be a {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion of {{lolicon}}.{{lolicon|AndShotacon}}. Turns out, not so much...
3rd Aug '17 4:22:16 PM MBG
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** Power Levels. Fans love using them to compare fighters to see who would win. This is despite the fact that Power Levels were made to show why judging fighters by numbers was terrible given that it didn't take into account people hiding their power, speed, experience, or techniques. Frieza's entire army and Raditz were handed their butts because they depended too much on Power Level readings.

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** Power Levels.PowerLevels. Fans love using them to compare fighters to see who would win. This is despite the fact that Power Levels were made to show why judging fighters by numbers was terrible given that it didn't take into account people hiding their power, speed, experience, or techniques. Frieza's entire army and Raditz were handed their butts because they depended too much on Power Level readings. Of course, a lot of it comes from the fact that power levels were never shown to be outright ''wrong'', and many fights in the series eventually did come down to simply brute-forcing the opponent.
11th Jun '17 10:33:43 PM Gamermaster
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* Some ''Manga/OniisamaE'' fans see Mariko Shinobu's [[DoesNotLikeMen hatred of men]] as something to glamourize or cheer for... "forgetting" that it's a sign of [[BreakTheCutie the immense trauma]] coming from her DarkAndTroubledPast, so it's supposed to be a sign '''[[BrokenBird of how messed up she is over it]]'''. Even the single time it's PlayedforLaughs isn't exactly supposed to show her in the right, but as a proof of immaturity - she's lashing out at two guys, Takehiko and Takeshi, ''who wouldn't be half as cruel to women as she thinks they'd be''.

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* Some ''Manga/OniisamaE'' fans see Mariko Shinobu's [[DoesNotLikeMen hatred of men]] as something to glamourize or cheer for... "forgetting" that it's a sign of [[BreakTheCutie the immense trauma]] coming from her DarkAndTroubledPast, so it's supposed to be a sign '''[[BrokenBird of how messed up she is over it]]'''. Even the single time it's PlayedforLaughs PlayedForLaughs isn't exactly supposed to show her in the right, but as a proof of immaturity - she's lashing out at two guys, Takehiko and Takeshi, ''who wouldn't be half as cruel to women as she thinks they'd be''.
17th May '17 3:15:31 PM ironballs16
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* ''Anime/GraveOfTheFireflies'' has been hijacked by some Japanese nationalists to fuel talk of how cruel America was to Japan in World War II. Meanwhile, detractors have accused it of feeding into this rose-tinted view of ImperialJapan as the innocent victims forced to go into war. The film's fame comes from being praised for portraying how war is [[WarIsHell absolutely terrible and horrific]] for ''anyone'' caught in it, whichever side they may be on. Ironically, ''none of these factors are what the director intended''. In an interview with ''Animage'' in 1988, Isao Takahata stated that there is no anti-war message ''at all'' in the film. He was actually aiming to shame the contemporary generation of rebellious (at least by Japanese standards) Japanese teens/young adults by reminding them of what their parents had to endure before the economy was rebuilt.

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* ''Anime/GraveOfTheFireflies'' has been hijacked by some Japanese nationalists to fuel talk of how cruel America was to Japan in World War II. Meanwhile, detractors have accused it of feeding into this rose-tinted view of ImperialJapan as the innocent victims forced to go into war. The film's fame comes from being praised for portraying how war is [[WarIsHell absolutely terrible and horrific]] for ''anyone'' caught in it, whichever side they may be on. Ironically, ''none of these factors are what the director intended''. In an interview with ''Animage'' in 1988, Isao Takahata stated that there is no anti-war message ''at all'' in the film. He was actually aiming to shame the contemporary generation of rebellious (at least by Japanese standards) Japanese teens/young adults by [[WhenIWasYourAge reminding them of what their parents had to endure endure]] before the economy was rebuilt.
6th Apr '17 6:31:35 PM rjd1922
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** The marines and pirates. Marines are often played as evil by the fandom who are run by corrupt {{Jerk Ass}}es and {{Smug Super}}s while the pirates are romanticize as freedom loving people who want to live life to the fullest outside the law. For the most part, the marines are portrayed as morally questionable to morally corrupt and several good pirate crews are seen such as the Straw Hats, Shanks' crew, and the Whitebeard Pirates. ''However'', it is made clear that crews like the Straw Hats are exceptions and most pirates are evil, cruel, and murderous. Marines for the most part are good (or at least try to do the right thing) and want to protect people from pirates and other criminals. The dynamite between pirates and marines is more a case of GreyAndGreyMorality, while fans tend to simplify it to pure Black and White.

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** The marines and pirates. Marines are often played as evil by the fandom who are run by corrupt {{Jerk Ass}}es and {{Smug Super}}s while the pirates are romanticize as freedom loving people who want to live life to the fullest outside the law. For the most part, the marines are portrayed as morally questionable to morally corrupt and several good pirate crews are seen such as the Straw Hats, Shanks' crew, and the Whitebeard Pirates. ''However'', it is made clear that crews like the Straw Hats are exceptions and most pirates are evil, cruel, and murderous. Marines for the most part are good (or at least try to do the right thing) and want to protect people from pirates and other criminals. The dynamite dynamic between pirates and marines is more a case of GreyAndGreyMorality, while fans tend to simplify it to pure Black and White.
11th Mar '17 10:35:48 AM nombretomado
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* The ending of the ''MermaidMelodyPichiPichiPitch'' manga was supposed to insinuate that love wasn't as important as personal fulfillment: Hanon and Rina know they will eventually have to choose to rule their kingdoms instead of staying on the surface. (This is analogous to the original "Literature/TheLittleMermaid" story, [[BrokenAesop except Lucia gets to keep Kaito]].) Fans generally ignore this and give them future children with Nagisa and Hamasaki (Masahiro).

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* The ending of the ''MermaidMelodyPichiPichiPitch'' ''Manga/MermaidMelodyPichiPichiPitch'' manga was supposed to insinuate that love wasn't as important as personal fulfillment: Hanon and Rina know they will eventually have to choose to rule their kingdoms instead of staying on the surface. (This is analogous to the original "Literature/TheLittleMermaid" story, [[BrokenAesop except Lucia gets to keep Kaito]].) Fans generally ignore this and give them future children with Nagisa and Hamasaki (Masahiro).
3rd Mar '17 2:42:52 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* Many {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s have complained that the protagonist of ''Manga/AiNoShintairiku'' should "stop dressing as a girl" and find her annoying for doing so. Sara is [[{{transsexual}} transgender]]. The manga is all about that and has her love interest come to accept the fact.

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* Many {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s have complained that the protagonist of ''Manga/AiNoShintairiku'' should "stop dressing as a girl" and find her annoying for doing so. Sara is [[{{transsexual}} transgender]]. The transgender]], and the manga is all about that and has her love interest come to accept the fact.



* Some ''Manga/OniisamaE'' fans see Mariko Shinobu's [[DoesNotLikeMen hatred of men]] as something to glamourize or cheer for... "forgetting" that it's a sign of [[BreakTheCutie the immense trauma]] coming from her DarkAndTroubledPast, so it's supposed to be a sign '''[[BrokenBird of how messed up she is over it]]'''.

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* Some ''Manga/OniisamaE'' fans see Mariko Shinobu's [[DoesNotLikeMen hatred of men]] as something to glamourize or cheer for... "forgetting" that it's a sign of [[BreakTheCutie the immense trauma]] coming from her DarkAndTroubledPast, so it's supposed to be a sign '''[[BrokenBird of how messed up she is over it]]'''. Even the single time it's PlayedforLaughs isn't exactly supposed to show her in the right, but as a proof of immaturity - she's lashing out at two guys, Takehiko and Takeshi, ''who wouldn't be half as cruel to women as she thinks they'd be''.



* In ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'', people who think that An Tachibana has a CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the anime-only Senbatsu arc are missing the point of said sub-plot and the consequences it brought for the characters involved. [[spoiler: In the Senbatsu arc, An confronted Kirihara for having injured her older brother. An's actions were not supposed to be seen as commendable, as she was consumed by rage and had tried to attack Kirihara some days before, but was restrained. Also, her second attack on Kirihara finished with him taking a StaircaseTumble that could have been fatal. Then, Akira Kamio was wrongfully accused for said fall, and almost got kicked out of the Senbatsu for something that he didn't do, while Kirihara himself decided to not tell who attacked him as he was scared of the consequences and didn't want any more problems.]] However, some fans praise An and say she's badass for what she did, missing how her supposed {{Revenge}} was simply not worth it and only caused lots of pain for everyone involved, to the point that An breaks down in tears and apologizes for the consequences!

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* In ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'', people who think that An Tachibana has a CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the anime-only Senbatsu arc are missing the point of said sub-plot and the consequences it brought for the characters involved. [[spoiler: In the Senbatsu arc, An confronted Kirihara for having injured her older brother. An's actions were not supposed to be seen as commendable, as she was consumed by rage and had tried to attack Kirihara some days before, but was restrained. Also, her second attack on Kirihara finished with him taking a StaircaseTumble that could have been fatal. Then, Akira Kamio was wrongfully accused for said fall, fall and almost got kicked out of the Senbatsu for something that he didn't do, while Kirihara himself decided to not tell who attacked him as he was scared of the consequences and didn't want any more problems.]] However, some fans praise An and say she's badass for what she did, missing how her supposed {{Revenge}} was simply not worth it and only caused lots of pain for everyone involved, to the point that An breaks down in tears and apologizes for the consequences!



*** The flipside is also true, since the loudest Homura haters insist that she is an horrifyingly cruel monster devoid of any humanity and refer to anyone who disagrees as "apologists". These Homura bashers eagerly brush aside how she was very lonely before meeting Madoka, then [[BrokenBird either broke herself or was broken beyond belief]] (and more often than not, '''both''') in all the [[spoiler: time loops]] and continuities, eventually [[DespairEventHorizon reached a total breaking point]], and ''then'' had [[spoiler: the above described LoveMakesYouEvil-fueled FaceHeelTurn.]] Even when the show beats the viewers upside the head with the idea that love ''cannot'' completely selfless unless in extremely special circumstances (like Madoka's), the fans still uphold the "love must be completely selfless and a person in love must not be allowed to wish for anything for him/herself" idea and then bash Homura for, alongside Sayaka, showing how unrealistic and harmful it is.

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*** The flipside is also true, since the loudest Homura haters insist that she is an horrifyingly cruel monster devoid of any humanity and refer to anyone who disagrees as "apologists". These Homura bashers eagerly brush aside how she was very lonely before meeting Madoka, then [[BrokenBird either broke herself or was broken beyond belief]] (and more often than not, '''both''') in all the [[spoiler: time loops]] and continuities, eventually [[DespairEventHorizon reached a total breaking point]], and ''then'' had [[spoiler: the above described LoveMakesYouEvil-fueled FaceHeelTurn.]] Even when the show beats the viewers upside the head with the idea that love ''cannot'' completely selfless unless in extremely '''''extremely''''' special circumstances (like Madoka's), the fans still uphold the "love must be completely selfless and a person in love must not be allowed to wish for anything for him/herself" idea and then bash Homura for, alongside Sayaka, showing how unrealistic and harmful it is.
26th Feb '17 8:15:10 AM KingLyger
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* In ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'', people who think that [[spoiler: An Tachibana]] has a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when she [[spoiler: confronted Kirihara for having injured her older brother]] in the anime-only Senbatsu arc are '''massively''' missing the point of said sub-plot and the consequences it brought for the charas involved. [[spoiler: An]]'s actions were NOT supposed to be seen as commendable, as [[spoiler: she was consumed by rage and ''she had tried to attack Kirihara some days before and was restrained'']]; not to mention, [[spoiler: her second attack on Kirihara finished on him taking a StaircaseTumble ''that could have been fatal'']], and for worse [[spoiler: Akira Kamio was wrongfully accused for said fall and almost kicked out of the Senbatsu. While Kirihara himself decided to not tell who attacked him as he was shit scared of the consequences and didn't want more problems.]] However, "feminist fans" often '''praise''' the girl and say she's ''badass'' and ''strong'' for [[spoiler: physically attacking a man]], horribly missing how her supposed [[spoiler: {{Revenge}}]] was simply not worth it and it only caused [[spoiler: Kamio, Kirihara]] ''and the poor girl herself'' lots of pain. (To the point of breaking down in tears and apologizing for the consequences!)

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* In ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'', people who think that [[spoiler: An Tachibana]] Tachibana has a CrowningMomentOfAwesome when she [[spoiler: confronted Kirihara for having injured her older brother]] in the anime-only Senbatsu arc are '''massively''' missing the point of said sub-plot and the consequences it brought for the charas characters involved. [[spoiler: An]]'s In the Senbatsu arc, An confronted Kirihara for having injured her older brother. An's actions were NOT not supposed to be seen as commendable, as [[spoiler: she was consumed by rage and ''she had tried to attack Kirihara some days before and before, but was restrained'']]; not to mention, [[spoiler: restrained. Also, her second attack on Kirihara finished on with him taking a StaircaseTumble ''that that could have been fatal'']], and for worse [[spoiler: fatal. Then, Akira Kamio was wrongfully accused for said fall fall, and almost got kicked out of the Senbatsu. While Senbatsu for something that he didn't do, while Kirihara himself decided to not tell who attacked him as he was shit scared of the consequences and didn't want any more problems.]] However, "feminist fans" often '''praise''' the girl some fans praise An and say she's ''badass'' and ''strong'' badass for [[spoiler: physically attacking a man]], horribly what she did, missing how her supposed [[spoiler: {{Revenge}}]] {{Revenge}} was simply not worth it and it only caused [[spoiler: Kamio, Kirihara]] ''and the poor girl herself'' lots of pain. (To pain for everyone involved, to the point of breaking that An breaks down in tears and apologizing apologizes for the consequences!)consequences!
1st Feb '17 7:16:22 AM Sakubara
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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': A certain section of the fandom (especially in America) are to be attracted to the series for being RatedMForManly and DarkerAndEdgier border-lining on TrueArtIsAngsty and bashes modern anime for not being as mature and manly, and especially has a...well BerserkButton for {{Moe}}. The problem? One of the messages of Berserk is that [[TestosteronePoisoning this mindset]] is a horrible way [[WarIsHell to treat war]] and how it can harm one's psyche. In fact ironically, creator Creator/KentaroMiura is an open fan of the very Moe VideoGame/TheIdolmaster and designed the {{Music/Vocaloid}} [[{{Bishounen}} Kamui Gackpo]], both of which are the kind of stuff that part of the fandom hates.

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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': A certain section of the fandom (especially [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff in America) America]]) are to be attracted to the series for being RatedMForManly and DarkerAndEdgier border-lining on TrueArtIsAngsty and bashes modern anime for not being as mature and manly, and especially has a...well BerserkButton for {{Moe}}. The problem? One of the messages of Berserk is that [[TestosteronePoisoning this mindset]] is a horrible way [[WarIsHell to treat war]] and how it can harm one's psyche. In fact ironically, creator Creator/KentaroMiura is an open fan of the very Moe VideoGame/TheIdolmaster and designed the {{Music/Vocaloid}} [[{{Bishounen}} Kamui Gackpo]], both of which are the kind of stuff that part of the fandom hates.
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