History MisBlamed / AnimeAndManga

3rd Mar '17 3:35:17 AM flamemario12
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* Anyone that tells you ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Anime/YuGiOh'', or ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' were shows for teens or adults that were "kiddified" by their English dubs. These are all, in fact, shows for children, general audiences, or at most young teens. Sometimes these complaints are justified, such as only airing ''Sailor Moon'' during timeslots for pre-schoolers or severely [[{{Bowdlerization}} censoring]] the content, but sometimes they seem to stem from a mutation of the AnimationAgeGhetto in which the fan doesn't want to admit they're watching a kids' show. This could also stem from [[ValuesDissonance the difference in cultures]] between Japan/whatever country -- starving oneself, lots of blood, MindRape and [[StalkerWithACrush thirteen-year-old girls being stalked and threatened]] are permitted in Japanese kids' shows, but there's no way they'd appear in many Western shows made for the same age group.

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* Anyone that tells you ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Anime/YuGiOh'', or ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' were shows for teens or adults that were "kiddified" by their English dubs. These are all, in fact, shows for children, general audiences, or at most young teens. Sometimes these complaints are justified, such as only airing ''Sailor Moon'' during timeslots for pre-schoolers or severely [[{{Bowdlerization}} censoring]] the content, but sometimes they seem to stem from a mutation of the AnimationAgeGhetto in which the fan doesn't want to admit they're watching a kids' show. This could also stem from [[ValuesDissonance the difference in cultures]] between Japan/whatever country -- starving oneself, lots of blood, MindRape and [[StalkerWithACrush thirteen-year-old girls being stalked and threatened]] are permitted in Japanese kids' shows, but there's usually no way they'd appear in many Western shows made for the same age group.
7th Feb '17 6:11:22 AM lalalei2001
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* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the localization company, assuming that they alone did it with the belief that Americans are too stupid and/or uptight to handle the truth. In reality, TV networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the Japanese company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well. Also, ''most'' companies (notably excluding Creator/FourKidsEntertainment), upon release of the show onto home video, will release the uncut version (if it exists).
* Virtually any reference to American (or Western in general) pop culture is generally reviled as a lame joke added by dubbers or a mere coincidence. One example is when Creator/TomHanks and Music/MariahCarey are brought up in an episode of ''Manga/WeddingPeach'', or when all are [[CulturalCrossReference in the original Japanese]].

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* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the localization company, assuming that they alone did it with the belief that Americans are too stupid and/or uptight to handle the truth. In reality, TV networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the Japanese company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well. Also, ''most'' companies (notably excluding Creator/FourKidsEntertainment), Most companies, upon release of the show onto home video, will release the uncut version (if it exists).
* Virtually any reference to American (or Western in general) pop culture is generally reviled as a lame joke added by dubbers or a mere coincidence. One example is when Creator/TomHanks and Music/MariahCarey are brought up in an episode of ''Manga/WeddingPeach'', ''Anime/WeddingPeach'', or when all are [[CulturalCrossReference in the original Japanese]].
7th Feb '17 6:06:30 AM matruz
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** Upset {{shipping}} fans have accused Creator/StudioPierrot of ExecutiveMeddling for the final OfficialCouple; when in reality the author, Creator/MasashiKishimoto, [[WordOfGod has said in several interviews]] that Naruto ending up with [[spoiler:Hinata]] was entirely his idea and it was decided from a while back.
15th Jan '17 9:06:03 PM Nicoaln
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** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these Western references put into anime that weren't there in the first place were actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere. Some manga series leave pop-cultural references intact and explain it outside the panels or on an extra page, and while some fansubs will include a little extra subtitle explaining it - some however prefer not to do this, as it's distracting and may [[BlinkAndYoullMissIt be way too easy to miss]].

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** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these Western references put into anime that weren't there in the first place were actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere. Some manga series leave pop-cultural references intact and explain it outside the panels or on an extra page, and while some fansubs will include a little extra subtitle explaining it - some however prefer not to do this, as it's distracting and may [[BlinkAndYoullMissIt be way too easy to miss]].miss. Mangas have the advantage of the reader being able to read at their own pace, whereas anime and film do not have this advantage.
15th Jan '17 8:56:56 PM Nicoaln
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** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these Western references put into anime that weren't there in the first place were actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere.

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** There's also a lot of people who don't seem to realize that some of these Western references put into anime that weren't there in the first place were actually replacing a reference that [[LostInTranslation wouldn't make sense]] elsewhere. Some manga series leave pop-cultural references intact and explain it outside the panels or on an extra page, and while some fansubs will include a little extra subtitle explaining it - some however prefer not to do this, as it's distracting and may [[BlinkAndYoullMissIt be way too easy to miss]].
8th Jan '17 10:44:59 PM mimitchi33
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** Here's one that could have prevented one of the examples on this page from happening. When the second-to-last episode of season 1 aired, children were believed to have gotten sick because [[spoiler: the other Sailor Senshi died]], but the episode had one moment with intense flashing lights that could cause seizures.

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** Here's one that could have prevented one of the examples on this page from happening. When the second-to-last episode of season 1 aired, children were believed to have gotten sick because [[spoiler: they were upset by the deaths of the other Sailor Senshi died]], Senshi]], but the episode had one moment with bright and intense flashing lights that could cause seizures.
15th Dec '16 2:00:08 PM Isaac_Heller
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** The 2011 Fukushima earthquake and nuclear disaster catches the blame for pushing Team Plasma into an arc after the badge quest, as well as for some fans, [[DorkAge dramatically changing (for the worse) a saga that started off strong, or at least decent]]. In reality, the production of [[Videogame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 sequel games]] ''instead of'' the usual third version is what caused the Plasma arc to be temporarily aborted and the series to change so dramatically. This also made the aforementioned two-parter a MortonsFork, in that, if it ''did'' air, the fans would be on the writers for giving Team Plasma as short of shrift as they gave [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Teams Magma and Aqua]]. That said, it certainly didn't help matters.
6th Nov '16 4:01:08 PM OmegaMetroid
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*** You want to talk about getting blamed for stuff that wasn't their fault? Their page on this wiki reminds people that they weren't the ones responsible for {{Macekre}}ing ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'': Nelvana was. Yes, their reputation for screwing things up is so bad that they get blamed for bad dubs they didn't even do.

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*** You want to talk about getting blamed for stuff that wasn't their fault? Their page on this wiki reminds people that they weren't the ones responsible for {{Macekre}}ing ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'': Nelvana was.was[[labelnote:*]]also misblamed, see below[[/labelnote]]. Yes, their reputation for screwing things up is so bad that they get blamed for bad dubs they didn't even do.
23rd Oct '16 11:36:10 AM nombretomado
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*** Subverted with FUNimation's initial Anime/DragonBallZ dub. Creator/TheOceanGroup is often blamed for the severe censorship found in the first two seasons of the original English dub, when it was in fact FUNimation (and to a lesser extent Saban) who were butchering the series.

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*** Subverted with FUNimation's Creator/FUNimation's initial Anime/DragonBallZ dub. Creator/TheOceanGroup is often blamed for the severe censorship found in the first two seasons of the original English dub, when it was in fact FUNimation [=FUNimation=] (and to a lesser extent Saban) who were butchering the series.
14th Oct '16 12:37:09 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Another 07th Expansion anime example: ''VisualNovel/OokamiKakushi'', which falls under Type 2. The ending sequence was almost entirely different from the ''actual'' ending in the Visual Novel. Those familiar with Higurashi claimed Ryukishi [[TheyJustDidntCare didn't even care]] about his own story, not realizing that, unlike Higurashi and Umineko, he had no involvement with this adaptation whatsoever, and that many plotpoints--including the aforementioned ending--that are heavily criticized weren't even in the original story.

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* Another 07th Expansion anime example: ''VisualNovel/OokamiKakushi'', which falls under Type 2. The ending sequence was almost entirely different from the ''actual'' ending in the Visual Novel. Those familiar with Higurashi claimed Ryukishi [[TheyJustDidntCare didn't even care]] care about his own story, not realizing that, unlike Higurashi and Umineko, he had no involvement with this adaptation whatsoever, and that many plotpoints--including the aforementioned ending--that are heavily criticized weren't even in the original story.
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