History MisBlamed / AnimeAndManga

23rd Jan '16 11:50:16 PM lolcoolj
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*** Subverted with FUNimation's initial Anime/DragonBallZ dub. Creator/TheOceanGroup is often blamed for the severe censorship found in the first two seasons of the original English dub, when it was in fact FUNimation (and to a lesser extent Saban) who were butchering the series.

*** Subverted with FUNimation's initial Anime/DragonBallZ dub. Creator/TheOceanGroup is often blamed for the severe censorship found in the first two seasons of the original English dub, when it was in fact FUNimation (and to a lesser extent Saban) who were butchering the series.
23rd Jan '16 11:26:43 PM lolcoolj
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* Similarly, when ''Anime/DragonBallKai'' was licensed, Funimation got some flame for "changing" the original title. In reality, Toei chose that name for international distribution due to how the franchise has always been split outside Japan. Pretty much every country not-Japan got the series with that name.
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* ** Similarly, when ''Anime/DragonBallKai'' was licensed, Funimation got some flame for "changing" the original title. In reality, Toei chose that name for international distribution due to how the franchise has always been split outside Japan. Pretty much every country not-Japan got the series with that name.name. ***Subverted with FUNimation's initial Anime/DragonBallZ dub. Creator/TheOceanGroup is often blamed for the severe censorship found in the first two seasons of the original English dub, when it was in fact FUNimation (and to a lesser extent Saban) who were butchering the series.
15th Jan '16 4:05:06 AM Anddrix
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* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the localization company, assuming that they alone did it with the belief that [[ViewersAreMorons Americans are too stupid and/or uptight to handle the truth]]. In reality, TV networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the Japanese company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well. Also, ''most'' companies, upon release of the show onto home video, will release the uncut version (if it exists).
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* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the localization company, assuming that they alone did it with the belief that [[ViewersAreMorons Americans are too stupid and/or uptight to handle the truth]].truth. In reality, TV networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the Japanese company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well. Also, ''most'' companies, upon release of the show onto home video, will release the uncut version (if it exists).
9th Dec '15 1:46:56 AM SeaRover
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Urobuchi had explicitly stated in an interview that he was very much intent on ending the series with Rebellion, and would have if Iwakami and Shinbo hadn't insisted otherwise. The idea he took of making Madoka and Homura into enemies was the idea he took after his originally planned ending was blocked off, and he has since implied that he will be leaving the franchise altogether. Link: https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/he%27s-stated-in-other-interviews-as-well-that-the-original-ending-was-the-above
9th Dec '15 1:46:06 AM SeaRover
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Urobuchi had explicitly stated in an interview that he was very much intent on ending the series with Rebellion, and would have if Iwakami and Shinbo hadn't insisted otherwise. The idea he took of making Madoka and Homura into enemies was the idea he took after his originally planned ending was blocked off, and he has since implied that he will be leaving the franchise altogether.
9th Dec '15 1:46:05 AM SeaRover
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Urobuchi had explicitly stated in an interview that he was very much intent on ending the series with Rebellion, and would have if Iwakami and Shinbo hadn't insisted otherwise. The idea he took of making Madoka and Homura into enemies was the idea he took after his originally planned ending was blocked off, and he has since implied that he will be leaving the franchise altogether.
* A lot of people are quick to blame the executives (if not Shinbo) for meddling the ending to Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion when in reality, it was less of a meddling and more of a ThrowItIn. Gen was having WritersBlock after he realized that other than "then Homura was reunited with Madoka", he had nothing written, and Shinbo suggested a plot hook that Gen bit hard into.
21st Nov '15 4:55:16 PM Willbyr
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* Although the dubs for ''TransformersArmada'' and ''TransformersEnergon'' [[BlindIdiotTranslation weren't all that great]], the writing wasn't good in the original Japanese shows either. (Notably, the more favourably received ''TransformersCybertron'' and ''[[Anime/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Robots In Disguise]]'' were both full of {{Woolseyism}}s.)
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* Although the dubs for ''TransformersArmada'' ''Anime/TransformersArmada'' and ''TransformersEnergon'' ''Anime/TransformersEnergon'' [[BlindIdiotTranslation weren't all that great]], the writing wasn't good in the original Japanese shows either. (Notably, the more favourably received ''TransformersCybertron'' ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'' and ''[[Anime/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Robots In Disguise]]'' were both full of {{Woolseyism}}s.)
15th Nov '15 3:58:48 PM LtQuattro
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** ''Anime/MegaManNTWarrior'' as well, which actually belonged to [=ShoPro=] Entertainment (who would eventually merge into Creator/VizMedia). One must wonder if ''every'' televised anime dub from the early-to-mid 2000s was blamed on [=4Kids=] at some point.
14th Nov '15 4:56:50 PM nombretomado
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* The ''original'' {{Macekre}}, ''{{Robotech}}'' even has some level of this. While CarlMacek did make the scripts for individual episodes, the whole "[[CutAndPasteTranslation make one show using the footage from three]]" wasn't something he decided, and was in fact exactly what he was ''hired to do'', for the sake of making a show [[SixtyFiveEpisodeCartoon with enough episodes for syndication]].
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* The ''original'' {{Macekre}}, ''{{Robotech}}'' ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' even has some level of this. While CarlMacek did make the scripts for individual episodes, the whole "[[CutAndPasteTranslation make one show using the footage from three]]" wasn't something he decided, and was in fact exactly what he was ''hired to do'', for the sake of making a show [[SixtyFiveEpisodeCartoon with enough episodes for syndication]].
14th Nov '15 11:35:44 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* A large quantity of the complaints about the ''Manga/{{Mai-HiME}}'' and ''Manga/MaiOtome'' manga stem from not being faithful to the "[[AnimeFirst original anime]]", despite the fact that the production teams were each given settings and characters whose traits they would establish themselves, and were made at the same time. This means that ''neither'' was an adaptation of the other.
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* A large quantity of the complaints about the ''Manga/{{Mai-HiME}}'' ''Manga/MaiHiME'' and ''Manga/MaiOtome'' manga stem from not being faithful to the "[[AnimeFirst original anime]]", despite the fact that the production teams were each given settings and characters whose traits they would establish themselves, and were made at the same time. This means that ''neither'' was an adaptation of the other.
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