History MisBlamed / AnimeAndManga

16th May '16 8:56:19 PM rjd1922
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* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the localization company, assuming that they alone did it with the belief that Americans are too stupid and/or uptight to handle the truth. In reality, TV networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the Japanese company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well. Also, ''most'' companies, upon release of the show onto home video, will release the uncut version (if it exists).

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* Dub edits will virtually always be blamed solely on the localization company, assuming that they alone did it with the belief that Americans are too stupid and/or uptight to handle the truth. In reality, TV networks [[ExecutiveMeddling impose standards onto the shows they broadcast that the writers have to live up to]], and imported shows are not exempt from this. Also, dub edits are often approved by the Japanese company originally producing the show, so they share some responsibility as well. Also, ''most'' companies, companies (notably excluding Creator/FourKidsEntertainment), upon release of the show onto home video, will release the uncut version (if it exists).



** The Advanced series has a number of very weird edits and censorship, like the removal of Pokeball symbols on Ash's badge case and removal of crosshairs on some of Team Rocket's devices, that get blamed on [=4Kids=]. In reality, these edits were entirely due to [[ExecutiveMeddling the laws of American TV at the time]] and are ''only'' present in the American airing of the episodes. The edits don't appear when the same episodes were shown outside America.

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** The Advanced series has a number of very weird edits and censorship, like the removal of Pokeball Poké Ball symbols on Ash's badge case and removal of crosshairs on some of Team Rocket's devices, that get blamed on [=4Kids=]. In reality, these edits were entirely due to [[ExecutiveMeddling the laws of American TV at the time]] and are ''only'' present in the American airing of the episodes. The edits don't appear when the same episodes were shown outside America.
3rd May '16 4:23:33 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** And the anime of ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' (which hasn't been dubbed yet and probably won't be) got blamed for an instance of Kinzo [[spoiler:turning into a dragon]] in the final episode that a lot of fans found to be rather ridiculous. Thing is, if you read the original VN, you'll see that the scene was, um, also there. It was just described in the narration and not visually rendered on the screen.

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** And the anime of ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' (which hasn't been dubbed yet and probably won't be) got blamed for an instance of Kinzo [[spoiler:turning into a dragon]] in the final episode that a lot of fans found to be rather ridiculous. Thing is, if you read the original VN, you'll see that the scene was, um, also there. It was just described in the narration and not visually rendered on the screen.
22nd Apr '16 6:30:39 PM KiraDoom
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* Sometimes in a manga/anime, the TokenMinority comes off a bit stereotypical, [[EthnicScrappy much to many a fan's chagrin]]. That must mean the creator of the manga/anime is racist, right? ''Wrong.'' Japan lacks the same racial history most Westerners have, so the people of Japan don't realize that their depictions might seem offensive to those outside the country. They aren't ''trying'' to offend anyone, nor are they prejudiced; it's just a cultural misunderstanding.
15th Apr '16 11:22:35 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Here's one that [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have prevented one of the examples on this page from happening]]. When the second-to-last episode of season 1 aired, children were believed to have gotten sick because [[spoiler: the other Sailor Senshi died]], but the episode had one moment with intense flashing lights that could cause seizures.

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** Here's one that [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have prevented one of the examples on this page from happening]].happening. When the second-to-last episode of season 1 aired, children were believed to have gotten sick because [[spoiler: the other Sailor Senshi died]], but the episode had one moment with intense flashing lights that could cause seizures.
11th Apr '16 10:41:24 PM aye_amber
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* The old ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' anime {{OAV}}, which was made sometime after the release of ''Sonic the Hedgehog 3'', refers to Knuckles the Echidna (introduced in that game) as a mole. This was preserved for the dub, where it is often misinterpreted as a translation error.

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* The old ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog'' anime {{OAV}}, [[OriginalVideoAnimation OVA,]] which was made sometime after the release of ''Sonic the Hedgehog 3'', 3,'' refers to Knuckles the Echidna (introduced in that game) as a mole. This was preserved for the dub, where it is often misinterpreted as a translation error.



** Bizarrely enough, people also complained about Yuki's voice actress (MichelleRuff) in the English dub of ''[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' sounding ''too much'' like the original Japanese.
*** Rather famously, one anime fan complained -- to Creator/JohnnyYongBosch's face -- that his [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Ichigo]] voice didn't sound enough like Creator/MasakazuMorita's. Bosch's response was "I'm an actor, not an imitator."

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** Bizarrely enough, people also complained about Yuki's voice actress (MichelleRuff) (Creator/MichelleRuff) in the English dub of ''[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' sounding ''too much'' like the original Japanese.
*** Rather famously, one anime fan complained -- to Creator/JohnnyYongBosch's face -- that his [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Ichigo]] voice didn't sound enough like Creator/MasakazuMorita's. Bosch's response was was: "I'm an actor, not an imitator."
6th Apr '16 3:31:51 AM Jokubas
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* Speaking of ''Franchise/OnePiece'', the series has a LOT of this. Just to give a few examples: The Government's law enforcers are referred to in Japanese as the "Kaigun" with the word "MARINE" written on their clothes. Thus, most fan-translations went with "Marine" to translate "Kaigun". However, "Kaigun" doesn't actually mean "Marine"; it means "Navy". All official English versions correctly translate it as "Navy", and this usually gets a backlash from fans claiming mistranslation. Funimation, aware of this, would - at least for the first 3 seasons - use "Marine" in the dub but translate it correctly as "Navy" in the subtitles; starting with the fourth season, though, they switched to using "Navy" in both.

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* Speaking of ''Franchise/OnePiece'', the series has a LOT of this. Just to give a few examples: The Government's law enforcers are referred to in Japanese as the "Kaigun" with the word "MARINE" written on their clothes. Thus, most fan-translations went with "Marine" to translate "Kaigun". However, "Kaigun" doesn't actually mean "Marine"; it means "Navy". All official English versions correctly translate it as "Navy", and this usually gets a backlash from fans claiming mistranslation. Funimation, aware of this, would - at least for the first 3 seasons - use "Marine" in the dub but translate it correctly as "Navy" in the subtitles; starting with the fourth season, though, they switched to using "Navy" in both. Though the word choice itself has a bit of [[MisBlamed Mis-blaming]]. Marine is technically synonymous with navy, making them interchangeable rather than "right" or "wrong", but that use of the word has fallen out of favor in English.
1st Apr '16 1:05:38 AM SamMax
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** For more dub related madness, some seem to think [[Creator/NipponIchi Nippon Ichi Software America]] made a new dub for their DVD and Blu-Ray releases of the series. In reality, they had used the old {{Creator/Animax}} dub for the release. Whether or not they ''should'' have made a new dub is [[BrokenBase a source of debate]], but NISA had nothing to do with the dub beyond getting the rights and putting it in their release.
26th Mar '16 8:45:34 PM Willbyr
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* Many people who've seen the English dub of ''XamdLostMemories'' claim that the story makes no sense. While the story does get rather complicated with time, the primary reason for this is that the English dub is a BlindIdiotTranslation. Context is off, word choice is misleading, and translations are inconsistent. For example:

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* Many people who've seen the English dub of ''XamdLostMemories'' ''Anime/XamdLostMemories'' claim that the story makes no sense. While the story does get rather complicated with time, the primary reason for this is that the English dub is a BlindIdiotTranslation. Context is off, word choice is misleading, and translations are inconsistent. For example:
13th Mar '16 12:06:21 AM nombretomado
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** In yet ''another'' dubbing-related example, Funimation is frequently blamed for the changing of characters' names and the title of the American dub and English manga[[labelnote:*]] published by Creator/VizMedia, who also gets a share of the blame[[/labelnote]] of ''Manga/DetectiveConan'', which is called ''Case Closed''. The name changes were actually requested by the Japanese licensor Tokyo Movie Shinsha, while the title change [[MarketBasedTitle was the result of]] a complaint by one of the owners to the rights of ''ConanTheBarbarian''.

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** In yet ''another'' dubbing-related example, Funimation is frequently blamed for the changing of characters' names and the title of the American dub and English manga[[labelnote:*]] published by Creator/VizMedia, who also gets a share of the blame[[/labelnote]] of ''Manga/DetectiveConan'', which is called ''Case Closed''. The name changes were actually requested by the Japanese licensor Tokyo Movie Shinsha, while the title change [[MarketBasedTitle was the result of]] a complaint by one of the owners to the rights of ''ConanTheBarbarian''.''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''.
26th Feb '16 5:00:52 PM Midna
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* Many [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]] dubs, such as ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'' and ''Anime/SonicX'', airbrush out English writing from certain scenes or replace them with generic symbols. Many detractors like to blame this on their usual ViewersAreMorons practices ("kids can't read"), but in retrospect, it was more likely done for the convenience of foreign localizers.

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* Many [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]] dubs, such as ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'' and ''Anime/SonicX'', airbrush out English writing from certain scenes or replace them with generic symbols. Many detractors like to blame this on their usual ViewersAreMorons practices low opinion of their viewers' intelligence ("kids can't read"), but in retrospect, it this was more likely actually done for the convenience of foreign localizers.
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