History MindRape / LiveActionTV

20th May '16 5:36:21 AM N8han11
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** Picard was forced to live out someone else's life in "The Inner Light." He ended up cherishing the memory, though, so maybe this was just unexpected mental contact he really wanted.
*** As in, surprise sex he didn't know he wanted?
*** That example fits the non-consensual aspect, but lacks the element of violation that really defines the trope. To be clear, the aliens pulled a sort of Matrix on him, creating an illusionary world in which he lived a life-time and raised a family, while in reality he was knocked out for less than an hour. They certainly were doing SOMETHING to his brain, but they didn't really enter his mind or memories and their intention was anything but cruel. YMMV on the cruelty of it in the end though (consider "waking" back into a world you had come to believe was only a dream, to discover the wife and children and friends you had spent DECADES with were gone, the citizens of a long dead civilization). And then he pulls out [[TearJerker that flute...]]
*** A much clearer example of mindrape happens in "The Best Of Both Worlds," where Picard is assimilated by the Borg. Apart from being forced to share his mind with trillions of other Borg, his head is also mined for the very strategies that the Federation has painstakingly devised to fight them, allowing them to crush the fleet at Wolf 359. In interviews, the writers directly likened it to rape, and it's not unwarranted; in "Family" Picard breaks down as he describes how he tried to resist and couldn't. How badly he was affected didn't fully show until StarTrekFirstContact, when it becomes clear that the experience has left him with a near-insane level of rage against the Borg.

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** Picard was forced to live out someone else's life in "The Inner Light." He ended up cherishing the memory, though, so maybe this was just unexpected mental contact he really wanted.
*** As in, surprise sex he didn't know he wanted?
*** That example fits the non-consensual aspect, but lacks the element of violation that really defines the trope. To be clear, the aliens pulled a sort of Matrix on him, creating an illusionary world in which he lived a life-time and raised a family, while in reality he was knocked out for less than an hour. They certainly were doing SOMETHING to his brain, but they didn't really enter his mind or memories and their intention was anything but cruel. YMMV on the cruelty of it in the end though (consider "waking" back into a world you had come to believe was only a dream, to discover the wife and children and friends you had spent DECADES with were gone, the citizens of a long dead civilization). And then he pulls out [[TearJerker that flute...]]
*** A much clearer example of mindrape happens in
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"The Best Of Both Worlds," where Picard is assimilated by the Borg. Apart from being forced to share his mind with trillions of other Borg, his head is also mined for the very strategies that the Federation has painstakingly devised to fight them, allowing them to crush the fleet at Wolf 359. In interviews, the writers directly likened it to rape, and it's not unwarranted; in "Family" Picard breaks down as he describes how he tried to resist and couldn't. How badly he was affected didn't fully show until StarTrekFirstContact, when it becomes clear that the experience has left him with a near-insane level of rage against the Borg.



* Hell, Justin Crowe's main power in ''Series/{{Carnivale}}'' indeed seems to be mind rape... At first he just uses it to make people face their past sins, induce a terrible guilt upon them and make them aware that he saw it too. But in the second season he really takes it to a whole other level; please don't force me to actually spit it out. Well, at least he shows an interesting variety of mind rape subtropes.
** I'll spit it out, in case anyone's confused. He [[spoiler:has his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister]], [[KnightTemplar Iris]] procure for him a constant stream of pretty, young maidservants. He seduces them using his authority as religious and political leader of New Canaan, and has so much demonically-tinged sex with them that he breaks their minds completely. We never actually see him commit ''these'' rapes, but we see Iris cleaning up the aftermath]].

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* Hell, Justin Crowe's main power in ''Series/{{Carnivale}}'' indeed seems to be mind rape... At first he just uses it to make people face their past sins, induce a terrible guilt upon them and make them aware that he saw it too. But in the second season he really takes it to a whole other level; please don't force me to actually spit it out. Well, at least level: he shows an interesting variety of mind rape subtropes.
** I'll spit it out, in case anyone's confused. He
[[spoiler:has his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister]], [[KnightTemplar Iris]] procure for him a constant stream of pretty, young maidservants. He seduces them using his authority as religious and political leader of New Canaan, and has so much demonically-tinged sex with them that he breaks their minds completely. We never actually see him commit ''these'' rapes, but we see Iris cleaning up the aftermath]].
1st Apr '16 11:10:21 PM dmcreif
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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'': This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and she also freaks out when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from the hotel room. In Jessica's case, about a year before the series began, she had been under his control for months, only breaking out when he finally forced her to murder someone, which shocked her out of it. [[AndIMustScream She described how a part of her was waiting every minute for a chance to break free and escape]].

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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'': This is Kilgrave's power.[[Creator/DavidTennant Kilgrave]] from ''Series/JessicaJones2015''. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and she also freaks out when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from the hotel room. In Jessica's case, about a year before the series began, she had been under his control for months, only breaking out when he finally forced her to murder someone, Luke Cage's wife, which shocked her out of it. [[AndIMustScream She described how a part of her was waiting every minute for a chance to break free and escape]].
19th Mar '16 2:33:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* Implied in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'', when Derek was captured in the future and taken to the basement of an old house. We're not shown what happened while [[{{Room101}} he was in that room]], but when he came out he was visibly shaking, exhausted, and horrified. Whatever it was it was apparently related to [[RobotGirl Cameron]]; when he sees her later in the resistance base he immediately draws his weapon and tries to destroy her, and after travelling back in time he immediately recognized her on sight and drew a weapon on her.

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* Implied in ''TheSarahConnorChronicles'', ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'', when Derek was captured in the future and taken to the basement of an old house. We're not shown what happened while [[{{Room101}} he was in that room]], but when he came out he was visibly shaking, exhausted, and horrified. Whatever it was it was apparently related to [[RobotGirl Cameron]]; when he sees her later in the resistance base he immediately draws his weapon and tries to destroy her, and after travelling back in time he immediately recognized her on sight and drew a weapon on her.
12th Dec '15 6:10:03 PM babyhenchy1
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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'': This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and she also freaks out when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from the hotel room. In Jessica's case, about a year before the series began, she had been under his control for months, only breaking out when he finally forced her to murder someone, which shocked her out of it. [[AndIMustScream She described how a part of her was watching and waiting every minute for a chance to break free and escape]].

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* ''Series/JessicaJones2015'': This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and she also freaks out when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from the hotel room. In Jessica's case, about a year before the series began, she had been under his control for months, only breaking out when he finally forced her to murder someone, which shocked her out of it. [[AndIMustScream She described how a part of her was watching and waiting every minute for a chance to break free and escape]].
12th Dec '15 6:09:39 PM babyhenchy1
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* Series/JessicaJones : This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and she also freaks out when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from the hotel room.

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* Series/JessicaJones : ''Series/JessicaJones2015'': This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and she also freaks out when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from the hotel room. In Jessica's case, about a year before the series began, she had been under his control for months, only breaking out when he finally forced her to murder someone, which shocked her out of it. [[AndIMustScream She described how a part of her was watching and waiting every minute for a chance to break free and escape]].
12th Dec '15 4:52:14 AM violettglass
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* ''Series/{{JessicaJones}}'': This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use te power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to trap someone for a long time and they freak out if they are stopped from carrying out the command.

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* ''Series/{{JessicaJones}}'': Series/JessicaJones : This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use te the power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to trap make someone do something unpleasant for hours at a long time time. In the first episode Hope has been forbidden to move, so she soils herself and they freak she also freaks out if they are stopped when Jessica picks her up and carries her away from carrying out the command.hotel room.
12th Dec '15 4:48:32 AM violettglass
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* JessicaJones This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use te power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to trap someone for a long time and they freak out if they are stopped from carrying out the command.

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* JessicaJones ''Series/{{JessicaJones}}'': This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use te power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to trap someone for a long time and they freak out if they are stopped from carrying out the command.
12th Dec '15 4:46:57 AM violettglass
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* JessicaJones This is Kilgrave's power. He can make anyone do what he says and he tends to use te power to hurt people. Sometimes it's short and violent and sometimes he uses it to trap someone for a long time and they freak out if they are stopped from carrying out the command.
8th Dec '15 8:46:59 AM Sapphirea2
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*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]" The Doctor '''intends''' to remove Clara Oswald's memories of him from her mind with a special device so she will not be targeted by his enemies after he defies the laws of time and space to save her from the moment of her death, preserving her in a conscious but not ''quite'' alive state. But she overhears the plan and insists she has a right to her memories; moreover she tampers with the device so it will backfire on him. When they agree to activate it together and see which one's affected, '''his''' memories of '''her''' are the ones lost, and it's ''very'' painful for him. The episode's FramingDevice reveals he can recall the adventures he had with her but not specific details ''of'' her -- and he cannot recognize her on sight. But he sees it as just punishment for becoming TheUnfettered to selfishly keep her alive, and since she meant too much to him and vice versa, this is the only way both of them can move on (Clara travels the universe on her own before returning to her death) and be their best selves for others.



*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]" The Doctor '''intends''' to remove Clara Oswald's memories of him from her mind with a special device so she will not be targeted by his enemies after he defies the laws of time and space to save her from the moment of her death, preserving her in a conscious but not ''quite'' alive state. But she overhears the plan and insists she has a right to her memories; moreover she tampers with the device so it will backfire on him. When they agree to activate it together '''his''' memories of '''her''' are the ones lost, and it's extremely painful for him emotionally and physically. The episode's FramingDevice reveals he can recall the adventures he had with her but not specific details ''of'' her -- and he cannot recognize her on sight. But he sees it as just punishment for becoming TheUnfettered to selfishly keep her alive, and since she meant too much to him and vice versa, this is the only way both of them can move on (Clara travels the universe on her own before returning to her death) and be their best selves for others.

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*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]" The Doctor '''intends''' As noted above, this is '''supposed''' to remove Clara Oswald's be Clara's fate in "Hell Bent" in a call back to Donna Noble's (again it's only memories of him from her mind with a special device so she will not be targeted by his enemies after he defies the laws of time and space Doctor that are to save her from the moment of her death, preserving her in a conscious be lost), but not ''quite'' alive state. But she overhears the plan and insists she has a right to her memories; moreover she tampers with the device so it that will backfire on him. When do it, tells the Doctor she won't stand for it, and the Doctor ends up affected instead when they agree to activate it together '''his''' memories of '''her''' are the ones lost, and it's extremely painful for him emotionally and physically. The episode's FramingDevice reveals he can recall the adventures he had with her but not specific details ''of'' her -- and he cannot recognize her on sight. But he sees it as just punishment for becoming TheUnfettered to selfishly keep her alive, and since she meant too much to him and vice versa, this is the only way both of them can move on (Clara travels the universe on her own before returning to her death) and be their best selves for others.device together.
8th Dec '15 8:41:34 AM Sapphirea2
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*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]" The Doctor '''intends''' to remove Clara Oswald's memories of him from her mind with a special device so she will not be targeted by his enemies after he defies the laws of time and space to save her from the moment of her death, preserving her in a conscious but not ''quite'' alive state. But she overhears the plan and insists she has a right to her memories; moreover she tampers with the device so it will backfire on him. When they agree to activate it together, '''his''' memories of '''her''' are the ones lost, and it's extremely painful for him emotionally and physically. But he sees it as just punishment for becoming TheUnfettered to selfishly keep someone he loved alive. The episode's FramingDevice reveals he can manage to recall the adventures he had with her, but not specific details ''of'' her -- and cannot recognize her on sight.

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*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]" The Doctor '''intends''' to remove Clara Oswald's memories of him from her mind with a special device so she will not be targeted by his enemies after he defies the laws of time and space to save her from the moment of her death, preserving her in a conscious but not ''quite'' alive state. But she overhears the plan and insists she has a right to her memories; moreover she tampers with the device so it will backfire on him. When they agree to activate it together, together '''his''' memories of '''her''' are the ones lost, and it's extremely painful for him emotionally and physically. The episode's FramingDevice reveals he can recall the adventures he had with her but not specific details ''of'' her -- and he cannot recognize her on sight. But he sees it as just punishment for becoming TheUnfettered to selfishly keep someone he loved alive. The episode's FramingDevice reveals he her alive, and since she meant too much to him and vice versa, this is the only way both of them can manage to recall move on (Clara travels the adventures he had with her, but not specific details ''of'' universe on her -- own before returning to her death) and cannot recognize her on sight.be their best selves for others.
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