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** This combined with ThanatosGambit is essentially Jia Xu's favorite killer tactic. This is how the GeniusBruiser Lü Buu is manipulated into his demise, by [[spoiler:falling for Jia Xu's murders of his lords and pretense of threat to Sima Yi's life.]]

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** This combined with ThanatosGambit is essentially Jia Xu's favorite killer tactic. This is how the GeniusBruiser Lü Buu Bu is manipulated into his demise, by [[spoiler:falling for Jia Xu's murders of his lords and pretense of threat to Sima Yi's life.]]
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* AchillesHeel: Cao Cao have both ferocious generals and talented advisers serving under him. He himself is a liberal and broad-minded ruler and he has the backing of the Han Emperor. His armies have gone through numerous baptisms by fire - first Lu Bu, then Yuan Shao and have came up top. His forces are nigh unbeatable, except for one fatal flaw -- [[spoiler: underestimating the enemy, which happens to be Zhuge Liang's favourite exploit]].

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* AchillesHeel: Cao Cao have both ferocious generals and talented advisers serving under him. He himself is a liberal and broad-minded ruler and he has the backing of the Han Emperor. His armies have gone through numerous baptisms by fire - first Lu Bu, then Yuan Shao and have came up top. His forces are nigh unbeatable, except for one fatal flaw -- [[spoiler: underestimating the enemy, which happens to be Zhuge Liang's favourite exploit]].



* AFatherToHisMen: Almost every notable general. Subverted with Lu Bu, who is a good boss enough to talents like Zhang Liao, Gao Shun or Chen Gong, but thinks of his mooks as little more than disposable pawns.

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* AFatherToHisMen: Almost every notable general. Subverted with Lu Bu, who is a good boss enough to talents like Zhang Liao, Gao Shun or Chen Gong, but thinks of his mooks as little more than disposable pawns.



* AlasPoorVillain: Chen Mou really loves doing this InUniverse. Every dead villain gets at least a chapter for an eulogy, [[spoiler: yes, even [[SmugSnake Yuan Shu]]. And if you never thought you'd feel sympathy for the OneManArmy Lu Bu, you might change your mind after reading about his downfall.]]

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* AlasPoorVillain: Chen Mou really loves doing this InUniverse. Every dead villain gets at least a chapter for an eulogy, [[spoiler: yes, even [[SmugSnake Yuan Shu]]. And if you never thought you'd feel sympathy for the OneManArmy Lu Bu, you might change your mind after reading about his downfall.]]



** While Lu Bu was fighting off Yuan Shu, a historian from Cao Cao arrived to observe the battle. He was writing up to the part of how Dong Zhuo was killed[[note]]with the historian outright telling himself how Dong Zhuo will be demonized to make Cao Cao look better[[/note]] and he said that whether to credit Lu Bu for it would depend on his performance in the battle with Yuan Shao.

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** While Lu Bu was fighting off Yuan Shu, a historian from Cao Cao arrived to observe the battle. He was writing up to the part of how Dong Zhuo was killed[[note]]with the historian outright telling himself how Dong Zhuo will be demonized to make Cao Cao look better[[/note]] and he said that whether to credit Lu Bu for it would depend on his performance in the battle with Yuan Shao.



** Liaoyuan Huo and Lu Bu teamed up to kill Dong Zhuo, who was one step ahead and ambushed them with a sizable force plus two skilled assassins from Xiliang. By the time reinforcements arrive, all the ambushers are dead.

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** Liaoyuan Huo and Lu Bu teamed up to kill Dong Zhuo, who was one step ahead and ambushed them with a sizable force plus two skilled assassins from Xiliang. By the time reinforcements arrive, all the ambushers are dead.



** Avert with several minor characters (Ji Ling) who got chopped off immediately after. If you are minor character and said (or being praised) like "I'm better than Lu Bu." or "He's a heavenly warrior.", prepare to be dissected in three pages.

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** Avert with several minor characters (Ji Ling) who got chopped off immediately after. If you are minor character and said (or being praised) like "I'm better than Lu Bu." or "He's a heavenly warrior.", prepare to be dissected in three pages.



* BadassInCharge: Lu Bu, Sun Ce, Liaoyuan Huo, Zhang Liao,..

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* BadassInCharge: Lu Bu, Sun Ce, Liaoyuan Huo, Zhang Liao,..



** This combined with ThanatosGambit is essentially Jia Xu's favorite killer tactic. This is how the GeniusBruiser Lu Bu is manipulated into his demise, by [[spoiler:falling for Jia Xu's murders of his lords and pretense of threat to Sima Yi's life.]]

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** This combined with ThanatosGambit is essentially Jia Xu's favorite killer tactic. This is how the GeniusBruiser Lu Bu Lü Buu is manipulated into his demise, by [[spoiler:falling for Jia Xu's murders of his lords and pretense of threat to Sima Yi's life.]]



** Liu Bei is one of the nicest guys Huo comes across. He's also a destitute and powerless lord, frequently falls victim to others' manipulations and schemes, and gets himself kicked out of the first power base that his followers worked so hard to get for him because he [[GoodIsDumb wants to believe the best of Lu Bu]]. His quest to restore glory of the Imperial family goes nowhere because none of the resident MaryTzu Eight Geniuses (who have divergent opinions about the future ruler) will lift a finger to help him -- the one who sympathises with his cause, Zhuge Liang, also demands that he be prepared to go the distances before Liang can offer his service to him.
* BerserkButton: Don't hurt Xiao Meng when Huo's around, [[spoiler:and don't trample on his remains]]. Don't mention the grudge of his father's death in front of Xu Chu. [[spoiler:If you kill Lu Bu's beloved daughter, be prepared for one of the most painful and one-sided thrashing ever, even if you are Cao Cao's top general, and ''there are many of you'']]. Apparently the only time Yuan Fang's BerserkButton was pressed was when he found out his father killed his fianceé, [[spoiler: and years later he ''did'' try to kill the man responsible]].

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** Liu Bei is one of the nicest guys Huo comes across. He's also a destitute and powerless lord, frequently falls victim to others' manipulations and schemes, and gets himself kicked out of the first power base that his followers worked so hard to get for him because he [[GoodIsDumb wants to believe the best of Lu Bu]]. His quest to restore glory of the Imperial family goes nowhere because none of the resident MaryTzu Eight Geniuses (who have divergent opinions about the future ruler) will lift a finger to help him -- the one who sympathises with his cause, Zhuge Liang, also demands that he be prepared to go the distances before Liang can offer his service to him.
* BerserkButton: Don't hurt Xiao Meng when Huo's around, [[spoiler:and don't trample on his remains]]. Don't mention the grudge of his father's death in front of Xu Chu. [[spoiler:If you kill Lu Bu's beloved daughter, be prepared for one of the most painful and one-sided thrashing ever, even if you are Cao Cao's top general, and ''there are many of you'']]. Apparently the only time Yuan Fang's BerserkButton was pressed was when he found out his father killed his fianceé, [[spoiler: and years later he ''did'' try to kill the man responsible]].



* BreakTheBadass: Lu Bu and Sun Ce, who invoke this against almost every badass they meet.

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* BreakTheBadass: Lu Bu and Sun Ce, who invoke this against almost every badass they meet.



** Most fights against Lu Bu will end with the challenger(s) dead/incapacitated and Lu Bu walking away none the worse for wear.
** It goes both way for the Lu Bu team and Dong Zhuo team at the end of Dong Zhuo's arc. Li Ru fails to stop Lu Bu's ascension to power and murder of Dong Zhuo; then he's lynched by Dong Zhuo's loyal subordinates whom Lu Bu manipulated into thinking he was the culprit and dies with his reputation tainted. In return, Lu Bu does not get to enjoy his victory for long: shortly after Jia Xu shows up seeking revenge and unceremoniously proceed to expose Lu Bu's deeds, destroy his credibility with the remaining Dong loyalist and strip him of his power base in Chang'an and Liangzhou, undoing everything Lu Bu has been scheming for so long to get.

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** Most fights against Lu Bu will end with the challenger(s) dead/incapacitated and Lu Bu walking away none the worse for wear.
** It goes both way for the Lu Bu team and Dong Zhuo team at the end of Dong Zhuo's arc. Li Ru fails to stop Lu Bu's ascension to power and murder of Dong Zhuo; then he's lynched by Dong Zhuo's loyal subordinates whom Lu Bu manipulated into thinking he was the culprit and dies with his reputation tainted. In return, Lu Bu does not get to enjoy his victory for long: shortly after Jia Xu shows up seeking revenge and unceremoniously proceed to expose Lu Bu's deeds, destroy his credibility with the remaining Dong loyalist and strip him of his power base in Chang'an and Liangzhou, undoing everything Lu Bu has been scheming for so long to get.



** Adding to the mix are a strange breed of warriors who have the ''reputation'' of "Having courage but lacking in wits". However they turn out to be not just one-man-armies, but capable schemers in their own right (See AuthorTract avobe). [[spoiler: Zhang Fei, Wen Chou, Yan Liang and... Lu Bu, of all people, fall into this category]].

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** Adding to the mix are a strange breed of warriors who have the ''reputation'' of "Having courage but lacking in wits". However they turn out to be not just one-man-armies, but capable schemers in their own right (See AuthorTract avobe). [[spoiler: Zhang Fei, Wen Chou, Yan Liang and... Lu Bu, of all people, fall into this category]].



*** At the execution ground of the White Gate Tower, just like what he once said to Cao Cao about giving up his dignity for the sake of staying alive, [[spoiler:Lu Bu begs Cao Cao for his life and humiliates himself to humor the bystanders. In response, Cao Cao applauds him for making a sensible decision at the cost of worthless pride... but executes him anyway, since he's ''not'' about to risk a Lu Bu comeback.]]

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*** At the execution ground of the White Gate Tower, just like what he once said to Cao Cao about giving up his dignity for the sake of staying alive, [[spoiler:Lu [[spoiler:Lü Bu begs Cao Cao for his life and humiliates himself to humor the bystanders. In response, Cao Cao applauds him for making a sensible decision at the cost of worthless pride... but executes him anyway, since he's ''not'' about to risk a Lu Bu comeback.]]



-->'''Zhang Liao, having switching out his headband for Lu Bu's after Taishi Ci and Zhou Tai withdraw''': Hear me now - if you return to Hefei, you will face a different Zhang Liao!

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-->'''Zhang Liao, having switching out his headband for Lu Bu's after Taishi Ci and Zhou Tai withdraw''': Hear me now - if you return to Hefei, you will face a different Zhang Liao!



** ChekhovsArmy: Guo Jia is crazily prepared (see below) but Xun Yu takes the prize for being able to think long term by fielding ''two'' Chekhov's Armies on different occasions. [[spoiler:Count: The ex-Yellow Turban troops he recruited for Cao Cao, the outlaws he place in Xuzhou to be used as pawns in the battle of wit between Zhang Fei and Lu Bu.]]

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** ChekhovsArmy: Guo Jia is crazily prepared (see below) but Xun Yu takes the prize for being able to think long term by fielding ''two'' Chekhov's Armies on different occasions. [[spoiler:Count: The ex-Yellow Turban troops he recruited for Cao Cao, the outlaws he place in Xuzhou to be used as pawns in the battle of wit between Zhang Fei and Lu Bu.]]



* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Lots of examples, undestandably, but Lu Bu is once again on the top of the pile, [[UpToEleven topping his feats of backstabbing in the original Romance Of The Three Kingdoms by far]].

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* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: Lots of examples, undestandably, but Lu Bu is once again on the top of the pile, [[UpToEleven topping his feats of backstabbing in the original Romance Of The Three Kingdoms by far]].



** Lu Bu holds no candle to Yuan Fang, who manages to turn on nearly every alleged allies of his (to be fair, only a handful of his allies are ''not'' manipulated as UnwittingPawn for his scheme in one way or another) and Sima Yi, who does this to Cao Cao on a daily basis.

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** Lu Bu holds no candle to Yuan Fang, who manages to turn on nearly every alleged allies of his (to be fair, only a handful of his allies are ''not'' manipulated as UnwittingPawn for his scheme in one way or another) and Sima Yi, who does this to Cao Cao on a daily basis.



** Even (and especially) Lu Bu gets in on this trope, complete with name-dropping Mencius, citing the place of Mount Tai in Chinese lore, and taunting Cao Cao with the stories of Goujian and Han Xin. (This last one backfires on him years later, when [[spoiler:he's the one begging for his life]], with Cao Cao citing Goujian right back at Lu Bu to reveal that he knows what's really going on[[note]]namely, Lu Bu attempting to buy time for a comeback by enduring temporary humiliation[[/note]].)
* CurbStompBattle: Usually happens when it is Lu Bu vs. anyone.
** During the Battle of Puyang, Lu Bu fight Dian Wei, Xu Zhu, Han Hao, Cao Hong and Yu Jin all the same time, and ''thrashed'' them.

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** Even (and especially) Lu Bu gets in on this trope, complete with name-dropping Mencius, citing the place of Mount Tai in Chinese lore, and taunting Cao Cao with the stories of Goujian and Han Xin. (This last one backfires on him years later, when [[spoiler:he's the one begging for his life]], with Cao Cao citing Goujian right back at Lu Bu to reveal that he knows what's really going on[[note]]namely, Lu Bu attempting to buy time for a comeback by enduring temporary humiliation[[/note]].)
* CurbStompBattle: Usually happens when it is Lu Bu vs. anyone.
** During the Battle of Puyang, Lu Bu fight Dian Wei, Xu Zhu, Han Hao, Cao Hong and Yu Jin all the same time, and ''thrashed'' them.



* DerivativeWorks: The [[{{novelization}} novel series]] penned by Wang Yi Xing, which so far has featured Liaoyuan Huo ("Crippled Legion"), Xiao Meng ("Xiao Meng"), Lu Bu ("Feng Xian"), Zhang Fei ("Yi De"), Sun Ce ("Bo Fu"), Yuan Fang ("Yuan Fang"), Guo Jia ("Feng Xiao"), Dian Wei ("Defeated General") and the Zhang brothers ("Yellow Turbans"), each with their respective side stories with the contents approved by the author. Whether the series is considered canon remains to be seen, what with its addition of details not included in the main story (which fuels much fan rage to the possibility of RecursiveAdaptation), its changes of some plot points and its take on the character's inner turmoils bordering on {{Flanderization}}.

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* DerivativeWorks: The [[{{novelization}} novel series]] penned by Wang Yi Xing, which so far has featured Liaoyuan Huo ("Crippled Legion"), Xiao Meng ("Xiao Meng"), Lu Bu ("Feng Xian"), Zhang Fei ("Yi De"), Sun Ce ("Bo Fu"), Yuan Fang ("Yuan Fang"), Guo Jia ("Feng Xiao"), Dian Wei ("Defeated General") and the Zhang brothers ("Yellow Turbans"), each with their respective side stories with the contents approved by the author. Whether the series is considered canon remains to be seen, what with its addition of details not included in the main story (which fuels much fan rage to the possibility of RecursiveAdaptation), its changes of some plot points and its take on the character's inner turmoils bordering on {{Flanderization}}.



** Lu Bu shocked the entire warlord alliance when he successfully murdered Dong Zhuo, wrested powers from the Dong loyalists and became the Emperor's trusted right-hand-man. Then Jia Xu whooped in and in one volume completely destroyed his credibility and military strength, forcing him on permanent exile. Even with the help of OldMaster Chen Gong, Lu Bu had to struggle for years to finally gain a foothold in Xuzhou, and even then he was unable to expand his base because Xuzhou did not come with the strategic advantages for that, and the fact that he treacherously took it from Liu Bei by force did not endear him at all to the populace who adored Liu Bei. Though he remained a fearsome warrior, his strength as a warlord was subpar at best and only Chen Gong's genius helped him from being swiftly crushed by Cao Cao's army within a few months of the second Xuzhou arc.

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** Lu Bu shocked the entire warlord alliance when he successfully murdered Dong Zhuo, wrested powers from the Dong loyalists and became the Emperor's trusted right-hand-man. Then Jia Xu whooped in and in one volume completely destroyed his credibility and military strength, forcing him on permanent exile. Even with the help of OldMaster Chen Gong, Lu Bu had to struggle for years to finally gain a foothold in Xuzhou, and even then he was unable to expand his base because Xuzhou did not come with the strategic advantages for that, and the fact that he treacherously took it from Liu Bei by force did not endear him at all to the populace who adored Liu Bei. Though he remained a fearsome warrior, his strength as a warlord was subpar at best and only Chen Gong's genius helped him from being swiftly crushed by Cao Cao's army within a few months of the second Xuzhou arc.



** HonorBeforeReason and FaceDeathWithDignity: Discussed and [[DefiedTrope defied]] by several characters, most notably Lu Bu, who value their lives more than superficial pride since they believe there's always a chance for comebacks as long as they're alive.

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** HonorBeforeReason and FaceDeathWithDignity: Discussed and [[DefiedTrope defied]] by several characters, most notably Lu Bu, who value their lives more than superficial pride since they believe there's always a chance for comebacks as long as they're alive.



** Lu Bu finally got done in by [[spoiler:Song Xian, Hou Zheng and Wei Xu, the three subordinates of Huo Xiong whom he had Zhang Liao murdered earlier in the story and roped into serving him. At his execution site, Liu Bei - who he forcibly removed from the governor seat of Xuzhou in an earlier military coup - talked Cao Cao into killing him instead of letting him live to serve.]]

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** Lu Bu finally got done in by [[spoiler:Song Xian, Hou Zheng and Wei Xu, the three subordinates of Huo Xiong whom he had Zhang Liao murdered earlier in the story and roped into serving him. At his execution site, Liu Bei - who he forcibly removed from the governor seat of Xuzhou in an earlier military coup - talked Cao Cao into killing him instead of letting him live to serve.]]



* DoNotGoGentle: [[spoiler:Lu Bu, at the moment of his death, broke out of the rope binding and asphyxiating him and tried an epic GraspTheSun. Note that ''three'' best generals of Cao Cao has tried to throttle him at this point, and ''they couldn't kill him''. It took a beheading from Xiahou Dun to finally put him down.]]

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* DoNotGoGentle: [[spoiler:Lu [[spoiler:Lü Bu, at the moment of his death, broke out of the rope binding and asphyxiating him and tried an epic GraspTheSun. Note that ''three'' best generals of Cao Cao has tried to throttle him at this point, and ''they couldn't kill him''. It took a beheading from Xiahou Dun to finally put him down.]]



** What ended Dong Zhuo's faction was not the combined force of 18 Guandong warlord, but the power fights between his adopted son Lu Bu and his son-in-law Li Ru, who was trying to keep Lu Bu from usurping Dong Zhuo as head of the clan. What definitely put an end to his legacy was the interminable in-fightings between Li Jue and Guo Si, the final commanding officers of his army.

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** What ended Dong Zhuo's faction was not the combined force of 18 Guandong warlord, but the power fights between his adopted son Lu Bu and his son-in-law Li Ru, who was trying to keep Lu Bu from usurping Dong Zhuo as head of the clan. What definitely put an end to his legacy was the interminable in-fightings between Li Jue and Guo Si, the final commanding officers of his army.



** Lu Bu faked death numerous times by sacrificing substitutes. He even once asked his subordinates, "So, how many times I have 'died'?"
** Cao Cao, in the battle of Puyang, faked his death to draw Lu Bu out. [[spoiler: And was assassinated again, but was saved by Dian Wei, but told Dian Wei to spread news that he died.]]

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** Lu Bu faked death numerous times by sacrificing substitutes. He even once asked his subordinates, "So, how many times I have 'died'?"
** Cao Cao, in the battle of Puyang, faked his death to draw Lu Bu out. [[spoiler: And was assassinated again, but was saved by Dian Wei, but told Dian Wei to spread news that he died.]]



** Cao Cao's first Xuzhou campaign. At first it looks like one of his attempt to gain control of a big territory, which is then thwarted by repeated counter {{plan}}s from Liaoyuan Huo, Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang. But then it turns out that Lu Bu has been eyeing Xuzhou and Cao Cao's homebase as well and chooses this moment to step into the scene, and Guo Jia reveals that baiting Lu Bu is what he's been aiming at ever since the beginning of this campaign. This arc culminates in an all-out battle between Cao Cao and Lu Bu, and [[spoiler:Cao Cao wins with the involvement of the Crippled Legion and Sima Yi]].

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** Cao Cao's first Xuzhou campaign. At first it looks like one of his attempt to gain control of a big territory, which is then thwarted by repeated counter {{plan}}s from Liaoyuan Huo, Sima Yi and Zhuge Liang. But then it turns out that Lu Bu has been eyeing Xuzhou and Cao Cao's homebase as well and chooses this moment to step into the scene, and Guo Jia reveals that baiting Lu Bu is what he's been aiming at ever since the beginning of this campaign. This arc culminates in an all-out battle between Cao Cao and Lu Bu, and [[spoiler:Cao Cao wins with the involvement of the Crippled Legion and Sima Yi]].



** A minor one is Lu Bu's takeover of Xuzhou. Zhang Fei and Lu Bu duke it out in a ferocious battle of wits, and [[spoiler:Zhang Fei loses]]. But it's only because [[spoiler: he wants to leave Xuzhou from the beginning, and essentially loses to Lu Bu on purpose]]. Then it's revealed that [[spoiler:Cao Cao]] has been funding them both in the hope that they will kill each other and save him a big load of trouble, and that's why [[spoiler:they didn't use military force, because neither side want to play into Cao Cao's hands]]. Yuan Shu is no mere spectator to this play either, [[spoiler:he helps Lu Bu deal with Liu Bei's main force, since he doesn't want Liu Bei, a royal relative, to interfere with his ascension plan]].

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** A minor one is Lu Bu's takeover of Xuzhou. Zhang Fei and Lu Bu duke it out in a ferocious battle of wits, and [[spoiler:Zhang Fei loses]]. But it's only because [[spoiler: he wants to leave Xuzhou from the beginning, and essentially loses to Lu Bu on purpose]]. Then it's revealed that [[spoiler:Cao Cao]] has been funding them both in the hope that they will kill each other and save him a big load of trouble, and that's why [[spoiler:they didn't use military force, because neither side want to play into Cao Cao's hands]]. Yuan Shu is no mere spectator to this play either, [[spoiler:he helps Lu Bu deal with Liu Bei's main force, since he doesn't want Liu Bei, a royal relative, to interfere with his ascension plan]].



** Well, Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu pretty much wanted to take over China because they liked power, so make it GreyAndBlackMorality.

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** Well, Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu pretty much wanted to take over China because they liked power, so make it GreyAndBlackMorality.



** Chapter 177 plays this [[UpToEleven up to at least]] ''[[UpToEleven fifteen]]'' [[UpToEleven layers deep]]. Zhang Fei and Chen Gong were scheming against each other; the former was trying to lure Lu Bu to Xiapi to kill him while the latter wish to drive out Zhang Fei to take Xiapi. Both of them outlines their plans, and the narrative switch back and forth between them anticipating each other.

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** Chapter 177 plays this [[UpToEleven up to at least]] ''[[UpToEleven fifteen]]'' [[UpToEleven layers deep]]. Zhang Fei and Chen Gong were scheming against each other; the former was trying to lure Lu Bu to Xiapi to kill him while the latter wish to drive out Zhang Fei to take Xiapi. Both of them outlines their plans, and the narrative switch back and forth between them anticipating each other.



* KansasCityShuffle: Guo Jia played this one straight beautifully in the battle to take Xiapi. [[spoiler: He had dug a series of pit traps to ambush Lu Bu's powerful cavalry. To avoid the traps, the cavalry pulled back from the area. When the rainy season comes, Guo Jia connected those pits traps to form a drain which divert the rain water to submerge Xiapi. He managed to do it because Lu Bu's troops pulled out of the area!]]

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* KansasCityShuffle: Guo Jia played this one straight beautifully in the battle to take Xiapi. [[spoiler: He had dug a series of pit traps to ambush Lu Bu's powerful cavalry. To avoid the traps, the cavalry pulled back from the area. When the rainy season comes, Guo Jia connected those pits traps to form a drain which divert the rain water to submerge Xiapi. He managed to do it because Lu Bu's troops pulled out of the area!]]



* LanternJawOfJustice: Lu Bu has what can only be described as chin buttcheeks.

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* LanternJawOfJustice: Lu Bu has what can only be described as chin buttcheeks.



** Listed with the character above are also [[spoiler:Lu Bu]], [[spoiler::Yan Liang]] and [[spoiler::Wen Chou]]; at least one character voices a belief that they deliberately cultivate such a reputation to surprise the enemy, in keeping with third part of ''On Morale'' (specifically "if the enemy general is ever-victorious, call him [[DumbMuscle brave but lacking wits]]").

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** Listed with the character above are also [[spoiler:Lu [[spoiler:Lü Bu]], [[spoiler::Yan Liang]] and [[spoiler::Wen Chou]]; at least one character voices a belief that they deliberately cultivate such a reputation to surprise the enemy, in keeping with third part of ''On Morale'' (specifically "if the enemy general is ever-victorious, call him [[DumbMuscle brave but lacking wits]]").



** Lu Bu single-handedly tried to break through the siege of Xiapi with his daughter strapped to his back. {{Mooks}} swarmed him, and he was outnumbered at least 100 to 1. He still managed to take out ''all'' of Cao Cao's generals who took him on[[note]]Yu Jin was with Cao Cao contending against Gao Shun[[/note]], then single-handedly broke through Cao Cao's army ''to'' Cao Cao -- rescuing Gao Shun in the process -- and Lu Bu was only beaten by Zhang Fei when he was exhausted and already wounded.

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** Lu Bu single-handedly tried to break through the siege of Xiapi with his daughter strapped to his back. {{Mooks}} swarmed him, and he was outnumbered at least 100 to 1. He still managed to take out ''all'' of Cao Cao's generals who took him on[[note]]Yu Jin was with Cao Cao contending against Gao Shun[[/note]], then single-handedly broke through Cao Cao's army ''to'' Cao Cao -- rescuing Gao Shun in the process -- and Lu Bu was only beaten by Zhang Fei when he was exhausted and already wounded.



** Lu Bu's troops are always quick to abandon him when he's down for the count. In his final arc, when they realize that his days are numbered after he fell for Guo Jia's KansasCityShuffle, even those who has stayed with him since Dong Zhuo scramble to defect to Cao Cao's camp, and those who do not only do so because Zhang Liao convinces them to.

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** Lu Bu's troops are always quick to abandon him when he's down for the count. In his final arc, when they realize that his days are numbered after he fell for Guo Jia's KansasCityShuffle, even those who has stayed with him since Dong Zhuo scramble to defect to Cao Cao's camp, and those who do not only do so because Zhang Liao convinces them to.



** Lu Bu: Despite being one of the most well-written characters in this series, it cannot be denied that he got a lot of CharacterFocus after he appears that you could rename the first thirty-two volumes as 'Lu Bu: God of War'. His moral issues and inability to predict a long-term strategy is still there but dumbed down somewhat since no one seems to call him on it (at least until he's about to abandon his men). Chen Mou even saved his dignity somewhat on execution scene (strangling, which is an execution save for woman) by doing that to every single one of his soldiers, and in Cao Cao non-sarcastically praising Lu Bu's last-ditch tactic before having him executed. Still, Chen Mou developed his character well enough that he become one of the most favorite characters.

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** Lu Bu: Despite being one of the most well-written characters in this series, it cannot be denied that he got a lot of CharacterFocus after he appears that you could rename the first thirty-two volumes as 'Lu 'Lü Bu: God of War'. His moral issues and inability to predict a long-term strategy is still there but dumbed down somewhat since no one seems to call him on it (at least until he's about to abandon his men). Chen Mou even saved his dignity somewhat on execution scene (strangling, which is an execution save for woman) by doing that to every single one of his soldiers, and in Cao Cao non-sarcastically praising Lu Bu's last-ditch tactic before having him executed. Still, Chen Mou developed his character well enough that he become one of the most favorite characters.



* ThanatosGambit: Several times. Notably, two of Dong Zhuo's underlings sacrifice themselves within a short period of time to set traps for Lu Bu in revenge for their lord's death. [[spoiler: Lu Bu falls for it both times[[note]]probably because while he can and does recognize such when it's explicitly going on in front of his eyes, Lu Bu's selfishness makes him blind to considering that the out-of-sight deaths of Niu Fu and Dong Yue might have been intentional self-sacrifice[[/note]] but he only realizes what's happened upon the second time -- by which "his" forces are already storming his headquarters.]]

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* ThanatosGambit: Several times. Notably, two of Dong Zhuo's underlings sacrifice themselves within a short period of time to set traps for Lu Bu in revenge for their lord's death. [[spoiler: Lu Bu falls for it both times[[note]]probably because while he can and does recognize such when it's explicitly going on in front of his eyes, Lu Bu's selfishness makes him blind to considering that the out-of-sight deaths of Niu Fu and Dong Yue might have been intentional self-sacrifice[[/note]] but he only realizes what's happened upon the second time -- by which "his" forces are already storming his headquarters.]]



** Liu Bei. After Lu Bu took Xiapi from him, Liu Bei became more ''pragmatic'' and less idealistic. [[spoiler:He sided with Cao Cao when the latter attacked Xuzhou in order to get close to the Emperor, and eventually persuaded Cao Cao to kill Lu Bu]].

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** Liu Bei. After Lu Bu took Xiapi from him, Liu Bei became more ''pragmatic'' and less idealistic. [[spoiler:He sided with Cao Cao when the latter attacked Xuzhou in order to get close to the Emperor, and eventually persuaded Cao Cao to kill Lu Bu]].



* UndyingLoyalty: If the lord is even remotely decent or charismatic, expect his followers to show a lot of this. Lu Bu, however, is contemptuous of this trope (though, ironically, he has his own undying loyal retainer in Zhang Liao), and his defiance of this trope highlights another aspect of his "inhuman" characteristics as regarded by the common men.
* UnstoppableRage: Lu Bu flies into one when Xu Chu [[spoiler:kills his daughter]], and the result is one of the worse CurbStompBattle Cao Cao's best generals ever experienced since their first taste of it (also at Lu Bu's hands) in volume 14. Yuan Tan's men makes Huo flip it when they trample on [[spoiler:what is ''possibly'' Xiao Meng's remains]], and when Yuan Tan is about to do the same to the graves of Zhang Liao's fallen comrades he gets the same reaction.

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* UndyingLoyalty: If the lord is even remotely decent or charismatic, expect his followers to show a lot of this. Lu Bu, however, is contemptuous of this trope (though, ironically, he has his own undying loyal retainer in Zhang Liao), and his defiance of this trope highlights another aspect of his "inhuman" characteristics as regarded by the common men.
* UnstoppableRage: Lu Bu flies into one when Xu Chu [[spoiler:kills his daughter]], and the result is one of the worse CurbStompBattle Cao Cao's best generals ever experienced since their first taste of it (also at Lu Bu's hands) in volume 14. Yuan Tan's men makes Huo flip it when they trample on [[spoiler:what is ''possibly'' Xiao Meng's remains]], and when Yuan Tan is about to do the same to the graves of Zhang Liao's fallen comrades he gets the same reaction.



** Lampshaded when Zhang Fei and Guan Yu 'cheated' to help Liu Bei win in a duel against Lu Bu. Liu Bei's fame immediately skyrocketed -- just as Zhang Fei and Guan Yu had intended..

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** Lampshaded when Zhang Fei and Guan Yu 'cheated' to help Liu Bei win in a duel against Lu Bu. Liu Bei's fame immediately skyrocketed -- just as Zhang Fei and Guan Yu had intended..
26th Oct '17 4:37:10 AM extrakun
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** Not as much as of a wham line, but more of a gesture -- [[spoiler:: Liaoyuan Huo asked the Eight Genius, "You with the surname Zhao, what is your name?", the latter simply pointed to the sky where the clouds were gathering, in the same way Liaoyuan Huo answered Zhang Fei when he was asked the same question. This implies that the Eight Genius is the real Zhao Yun]]
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* TreacherousAdvisor: Sima Yi to Cao Cao, and frequently {{Lampshaded}}.


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* WarIsHell: Oh, so very much. It's also noted InUniverse, as Cao Cao's rise to power is credited in part to this trope, Sima Yi believes that it's better to play TreacherousAdvisor than to throw the land into decades-long civil war, and Zhuge Liang goes into a TenMinuteRetirement when he sees the horrors of wars up close and personal.
3rd Oct '17 10:56:05 AM dotchan
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* AnachronismStew: Paper books (and probably kunais) are yet to be existed during later Han and Three Kingdoms era.

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* AnachronismStew: AnachronismStew:
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Paper books (and probably kunais) are yet to be existed exist during later Han and Three Kingdoms era.



* UndyingLoyalty: If the lord is even remotely decent or charismatic, expect his followers to show a lot of this. Lu Bu, however, is contemptuous of this trope (though, ironically, he has his own undying loyal retainer in Zhang Liao), and his defiance of this trope highlights another aspect of his "unhuman" characteristics as regarded by the common men.

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* UndyingLoyalty: If the lord is even remotely decent or charismatic, expect his followers to show a lot of this. Lu Bu, however, is contemptuous of this trope (though, ironically, he has his own undying loyal retainer in Zhang Liao), and his defiance of this trope highlights another aspect of his "unhuman" "inhuman" characteristics as regarded by the common men.
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* CreateYourOwnVillain:
** Cao Cao gave Dong Cheng, a prominent and loyalist courtier, a ReasonYouSuckSpeech to which basically "Corrupt vassals seek power for themselves. So loyal vassals must seek power to protect their lord." aka criticizing Dong Cheng's passive courtier attitude. Take a guess one of conspirators who try undermine Cao's position at capital at Guandu Arc.
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* BuriedInAPileOfCorpses: Liu Bei was trapped in one at one point until Xiahou Dun rescued him.
17th Jan '17 9:47:15 PM DustSnitch
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** Xiahou Dun and Xiahou Yuan (and their squad) have been thrashed rather consistently to establish how BadAss Cao Cao's various enemies are, though Dun at least would recover somewhat as a "tunnel rat" during the Battle of Guandu.

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** Xiahou Dun and Xiahou Yuan (and their squad) have been thrashed rather consistently to establish how BadAss badass Cao Cao's various enemies are, though Dun at least would recover somewhat as a "tunnel rat" during the Battle of Guandu.
3rd Jan '17 1:55:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* BadAss: [[WorldOfBadass Pretty much every main character]].
** BackToBackBadasses:
*** Liaoyuan Huo and Lu Bu teamed up to kill Dong Zhuo, who was one step ahead and ambushed them with a sizable force plus two skilled assassins from Xiliang. By the time reinforcements arrive, all the ambushers are dead.
*** Liaoyun Huo and Sun Ce faced off an entire army back to back. [[spoiler:Or rather, Liaoyuan Huo and 'Sun Ce', a.k.a. Ling Cao]].
*** Gan Ning and Huang Zhong against about 5 very ''pissed off'' elite generals of Sun clan. And [[CoolOldGuy Huang]] [[BadassGrandpa Zhong]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome gets them both out of it with some helps from the sideline and the spirit of camaraderie]].
** BadassArmy: The series feature various groups of elite troops that are a cut above the rest.
*** Cao Cao's troops are so badass that a couple thousands of them managed to beat Li Jue's tens of thousands through DivideAndConquer.
*** Gao Shun's elite troops defeated Xiahou Dun, drove off Xiahou Yuan for second helping, and then proceed to attack Cao Cao's main camp during the battle of Xuzhou.
** BadassAndBaby: Liaoyuan Huo fighting Cao Cao's forces while protecting Liu Bei's infant son.
** BadassBeard: Guan Yu, given his fame in RoTK, but really he holds no candle to [[http://www.mangareader.net/336-31553-12/the-ravages-of-time/chapter-282.html Huang Zhong]].
** BadassBoast: Zhang Liao - "No one has ever passed the range of my swords".
*** Avert with several minor characters (Ji Ling) who got chopped off immediately after. If you are minor character and said (or being praised) like "I'm better than Lu Bu." or "He's a heavenly warrior.", prepare to be dissected in three pages.
** BadassCape
** BadassGrandpa: Several characters, but most notably Cheng Pu and the two Huangs: Gai and Zhong
** BadassFamily: The Cao clan and Sun clan.
** BadassInCharge: Lu Bu, Sun Ce, Liaoyuan Huo, Zhang Liao,..
** BreakTheBadass: Lu Bu and Sun Ce, who invoke this against almost every badass they meet.
** FourStarBadass

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* BadAss: [[WorldOfBadass Pretty much every main character]].
**
BackToBackBadasses:
*** ** Liaoyuan Huo and Lu Bu teamed up to kill Dong Zhuo, who was one step ahead and ambushed them with a sizable force plus two skilled assassins from Xiliang. By the time reinforcements arrive, all the ambushers are dead.
*** ** Liaoyun Huo and Sun Ce faced off an entire army back to back. [[spoiler:Or rather, Liaoyuan Huo and 'Sun Ce', a.k.a. Ling Cao]].
*** ** Gan Ning and Huang Zhong against about 5 very ''pissed off'' elite generals of Sun clan. And [[CoolOldGuy Huang]] [[BadassGrandpa Zhong]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome gets them both out of it with some helps from the sideline and the spirit of camaraderie]].
** * BadassArmy: The series feature various groups of elite troops that are a cut above the rest.
*** ** Cao Cao's troops are so badass that a couple thousands of them managed to beat Li Jue's tens of thousands through DivideAndConquer.
*** ** Gao Shun's elite troops defeated Xiahou Dun, drove off Xiahou Yuan for second helping, and then proceed to attack Cao Cao's main camp during the battle of Xuzhou.
** * BadassAndBaby: Liaoyuan Huo fighting Cao Cao's forces while protecting Liu Bei's infant son.
** * BadassBeard: Guan Yu, given his fame in RoTK, but really he holds no candle to [[http://www.mangareader.net/336-31553-12/the-ravages-of-time/chapter-282.html Huang Zhong]].
** * BadassBoast: Zhang Liao - "No one has ever passed the range of my swords".
*** ** Avert with several minor characters (Ji Ling) who got chopped off immediately after. If you are minor character and said (or being praised) like "I'm better than Lu Bu." or "He's a heavenly warrior.", prepare to be dissected in three pages.
** %%* BadassCape
** * BadassGrandpa: Several characters, but most notably Cheng Pu and the two Huangs: Gai and Zhong
** * BadassFamily: The Cao clan and Sun clan.
** * BadassInCharge: Lu Bu, Sun Ce, Liaoyuan Huo, Zhang Liao,..
** BreakTheBadass: Lu Bu and Sun Ce, who invoke this against almost every badass they meet.
** FourStarBadass
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