History Manga / SoulEater

9th Dec '17 3:42:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Crona is a Type II Anti-Villain. S/he doesn't really ''want'' to be an antagonist, but his/her messed-up childhood, as well as Medusa's god-awful parenting skills, make him/her out to be one. [[spoiler: Later in the manga, s/he's using madness without Medusa, sure, but it's all because s/he thinks getting rid of order will make everyone free.]]

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** Crona is a Type II Anti-Villain. S/he doesn't really ''want'' to be an antagonist, but his/her messed-up childhood, as well as Medusa's god-awful parenting skills, make him/her out to be one. [[spoiler: Later in the manga, s/he's using madness without Medusa, sure, but it's all because s/he thinks getting rid of order will make everyone free.]]
8th Dec '17 2:00:27 PM system
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7th Dec '17 8:24:28 PM Shushuruhn
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* AmbiguousGender: Crona. Recognized as ambiguous numerous times by characters within canon itself. Any person that seems to know their gender is probably basing their hypothesis off of fan translations and unsubstantiated claims by other fans. The official English translations of the manga and anime use "he" simply because it's the closest English has to a widely used gender ambiguous pronoun [[note]][[FridgeLogic Although using "they" would have been a much better alternative]]. While "they" ''is'' traditionally used to refer to multiple individuals at once, it's also a very common pronoun in real life to be used for people that you don't know the gender of, [[ItIsDehumanizing doesn't come with any of the unfortunate implications that the other widely used gender neutral pronoun has]], and would have been easier for the audience to pick up than other gender neutral pronouns thanks to being a widely used word no matter what definition it has. Indeed, many real life non-binary people ''prefer'' to be referred to with "they" pronouns.[[/note]], not because they think Crona is male. There is no solid canon support for Crona being any gender, partially thanks to third-person pronouns ("he" & "she") being almost completely unused in Japanese.
** WordOfGod is that [[https://twitter.com/Atsushi_Ohkubo/status/552044562760220672 Crona's gender is unknown]].
** Fire and Thunder, until chapter 67 [[http://www.mangareader.net/soul-eater/67/17 shows them in older bodies]]. Fire is a boy and Thunder is a girl.

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* AmbiguousGender: Crona. Recognized as ambiguous numerous times by characters within canon itself. Any person that seems to know their gender is probably basing their hypothesis off of fan translations and unsubstantiated claims by other fans. The official English translations of the manga and anime use "he" simply because it's the closest English has to a widely used gender ambiguous pronoun [[note]][[FridgeLogic Although using "they" would have been a much better alternative]]. While "they" ''is'' traditionally used to refer to multiple individuals at once, it's also a very common pronoun in real life to be used for people that you don't know the gender of, [[ItIsDehumanizing doesn't come with any of the unfortunate implications that the other widely used gender neutral pronoun has]], and would have been easier for the audience to pick up than other gender neutral pronouns thanks to being a widely used word no matter what definition it has. Indeed, many real life non-binary people ''prefer'' to be referred to with "they" pronouns.[[/note]], not because they think Crona is male. There is no solid canon support for Crona being any gender, partially thanks to third-person pronouns ("he" & "she") being almost completely unused in Japanese.
** WordOfGod is that [[https://twitter.com/Atsushi_Ohkubo/status/552044562760220672 Crona's gender is unknown]].
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Fire and Thunder, until chapter 67 [[http://www.mangareader.net/soul-eater/67/17 shows them in older bodies]]. Fire is a boy and Thunder is a girl.



** Crona is a Type II Anti-Villain. S/he doesn't really ''want'' to be an antagonist, but his/her messed-up childhood, as well as Medusa's god-awful parenting skills, make him/her out to be one. [[spoiler: Later in the manga, s/he's using madness without Medusa, sure, but it's all because s/he thinks getting rid of order will make everyone free.]]

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** Crona is a Type II Anti-Villain. S/he He doesn't really ''want'' to be an antagonist, but his/her his messed-up childhood, as well as Medusa's god-awful parenting skills, make him/her him out to be one. [[spoiler: Later in the manga, s/he's he's using madness without Medusa, sure, but it's all because s/he he thinks getting rid of order will make everyone free.]]



* AsLongAsThereIsEvil: In manga finale, [[spoiler: Crona tells Maka that Asura, the embodiment of fear, cannot be killed as long as there is fear in the world. This is why they proceed to seal him on the Moon instead, and it is likely that Lord Death sealed Asura under Death City in the first place for the same reason.]]

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* AsLongAsThereIsEvil: In manga finale, [[spoiler: Crona tells Maka that Asura, the embodiment of fear, cannot be killed as long as there is fear in the world. This is why they proceed he proceeds to seal him on the Moon instead, and it is likely that Lord Death sealed Asura under Death City in the first place for the same reason.]]



** Out of universe this happened with a few of the scenes adapted from manga to anime: Free's introduction cuts out the part where he kills the guards coming after him by crushing with a huge ball of ice and the flashback to Crona's childhood changes Medusa forcing Crona to kill their pet rabbit to "defeating" a small dragon.

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** Out of universe this happened with a few of the scenes adapted from manga to anime: Free's introduction cuts out the part where he kills the guards coming after him by crushing with a huge ball of ice and the flashback to Crona's childhood changes Medusa forcing Crona to kill their his pet rabbit to "defeating" a small dragon.



* CharacterDevelopment: Crona, particularly in the anime. They start out as a near blood thirsty monster who loves to kill and eat souls. But as the story goes on, [[spoiler: It becomes clear that They are being used by their mother. This is not a HeelFaceTurn because, they remain afraid of everyone inside DWMA, only listening and following Maka. They slowly learn to appreciate Marie, then the whole cast, delivering one of the most adorable moments in the series history.]] It takes a grand total of '''30''' episodes for [[spoiler: Crona to truly become good.]]

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* CharacterDevelopment: Crona, particularly in the anime. They start He starts out as a near blood thirsty monster who loves to kill and eat souls. But as the story goes on, [[spoiler: It becomes clear that They are he is being used by their his mother. This is not a HeelFaceTurn because, they remain he remains afraid of everyone inside DWMA, only listening and following Maka. They He slowly learn learns to appreciate Marie, then the whole cast, delivering one of the most adorable moments in the series history.]] It takes a grand total of '''30''' episodes for [[spoiler: Crona to truly become good.]]



* ComplimentBackfire (or possibly Compliment [[TheChessMaster Just-As-Planned]]): [[spoiler: After Crona devastates a whole city using the black blood, Medusa makes dinner(!) and tells Crona how proud she is(!!). Crona freaks out, first attacking Medusa for her hellish experiments and forcing them to abandon Maka, the only person who made Crona happy, then for acting so strangely ("Who are you?! What have you done with my mother?!"). The Clown is pleased: Crona is now completely independent and able to receive the Kishin and Medusa's vectors indicate she's not quite dead.]]

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* ComplimentBackfire (or possibly Compliment [[TheChessMaster Just-As-Planned]]): [[spoiler: After Crona devastates a whole city using the black blood, Medusa makes dinner(!) and tells Crona how proud she is(!!). Crona freaks out, first attacking Medusa for her hellish experiments and forcing them him to abandon Maka, the only person who made Crona happy, then for acting so strangely ("Who are you?! What have you done with my mother?!"). The Clown is pleased: Crona is now completely independent and able to receive the Kishin and Medusa's vectors indicate she's not quite dead.]]



* CornerOfWoe: Crona is very familiar with it. (S)he even gave it a nickname!

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* CornerOfWoe: Crona is very familiar with it. (S)he He even gave it a nickname!



* DarkMagicalGirl: Crona, the Demon Swordsman. Woman? [[AmbiguousGender We're...not sure.]]

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* DarkMagicalGirl: Crona, the Demon Swordsman. Woman? [[AmbiguousGender We're...not sure.]]Swordsman is a rare male example.



* TheDogBitesBack: Subverted, when Crona [[spoiler:loses the power from his black blood and, by extention,]] Ragnarok is weakened, Crona hits him. He gets angry and more than ever he teases Crona, who still can't defend him/herself.

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* TheDogBitesBack: Subverted, when Crona [[spoiler:loses the power from his black blood and, by extention,]] Ragnarok is weakened, Crona hits him. He gets angry and more than ever he teases Crona, who still can't defend him/herself.himself.



* DudeLooksLikeALady: Crona, very much so. Several characters have trouble determining if he is a boy or a girl.



** Also, Maba-Sama. As tall as, if not slightly taller than, Angelica, has bat-like wings, which are generally useless, since she prefers to hover; and one of the very few close-ups of her face makes her look like she was built by someone from a Creator/TimBurton visual effects studio.

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** Also, Maba-Sama. As tall as, if not slightly taller than, Angelica, Angela, has bat-like wings, which are generally useless, since she prefers to hover; and one of the very few close-ups of her face makes her look like she was built by someone from a Creator/TimBurton visual effects studio.



** The ''entire storyline'' with Kid, Crona and the Flying Dutchman. It is here that Kid hears that Death and Asura may be somehow connected (see above, he not unreasonably assumes it's purely metaphorical), and here where Kid and Crona have their disagreement over fear and power, specifically Kid's declaration that to conquer fear Crona should "strengthen [hir] soul". Come the end of the series [[spoiler: Death and Asura are revealed to be HumanoidAbominations with a personal connection, and Crona has indeed dealt with fear by strengthening hir soul, and choosing to imprison Asura for as long as possible.]]

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** The ''entire storyline'' with Kid, Crona and the Flying Dutchman. It is here that Kid hears that Death and Asura may be somehow connected (see above, he not unreasonably assumes it's purely metaphorical), and here where Kid and Crona have their disagreement over fear and power, specifically Kid's declaration that to conquer fear Crona should "strengthen [hir] [his] soul". Come the end of the series [[spoiler: Death and Asura are revealed to be HumanoidAbominations with a personal connection, and Crona has indeed dealt with fear by strengthening hir his soul, and choosing to imprison Asura for as long as possible.]]



** When Crona has a dialogue with their alter ego inside their head, they refuse to answers 42 questions before the alter ego leaves. Of course, 42 in Japanese is a homonym of "to die".

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** When Crona has a dialogue with their his alter ego inside their his head, they refuse he refuses to answers 42 questions before the alter ego leaves. Of course, 42 in Japanese is a homonym of "to die".



* FreudianExcuse: An unusual example, since s/he's not evil, but Crona unquestionably obeys Medusa's orders, even understanding they're evil, due to the way she was raised.

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* FreudianExcuse: An unusual example, since s/he's he's not evil, but Crona unquestionably obeys Medusa's orders, even understanding they're evil, due to the way she he was raised.
2nd Nov '17 10:56:45 AM Berrenta
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* InteractingWithShadow: Chrona does this inside his mind. It asks him several would-be [[ArmourPiercingQuestion Armour Piercing Questions]], but the only answer Chrona gives it is "pass".
* [[spoiler: IWillWaitForYou: Non-romantic (unless you ship them) version. Crona makes this sort of vow to Maka when, right before they make their Heroic Sacrifice and imprison themselves alongside Asura, she tells them that she'll come back for them someday and tells them to wait for her. The series ended right after, but on the hopeful note that they may yet be reunited, someday.]]

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* InteractingWithShadow: Chrona does this inside his mind. It asks him several would-be [[ArmourPiercingQuestion Armour Piercing Questions]], but the only answer Chrona gives it is "pass".
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IWillWaitForYou: Non-romantic (unless you ship them) version. [[spoiler: Crona makes this sort of vow to Maka when, right before they make their Heroic Sacrifice and imprison themselves alongside Asura, she tells them that she'll come back for them someday and tells them to wait for her. The series ended right after, but on the hopeful note that they may yet be reunited, someday.]]
20th Oct '17 7:35:47 AM Basara-kun
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* WesternSamurai: Mifune is a blonde-haired, blue-eyed samurai of non-Japanese descent.
9th Oct '17 11:56:37 PM weiserthanyou
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* BaitAndSwitch: In Episode 47, there are three cases of multiple people's reactions to the Death City Robot, such as Mosquito and Death the Kid. In the first two, Excalibur (who is included) simply says "fools", as usual. Then when the Death City Robot [[spoiler:eats the Kishin]], he says "hmm" instead.
1st Sep '17 4:34:45 PM nombretomado
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''Soul Eater'' is a {{shonen}} manga by Atsushi Ohkubo which has been regularly serialized in Monthly Shonen Gangan since 2004. It received a 51 episode anime by StudioBones in 2008. As of January 2011, Monthly Shonen Gangan has ran a {{Prequel}} / {{Spinoff}} named ''Manga/SoulEaterNot'' by the same mangaka, running alongside the original series while covering and expanding on events prior to the original story. The manga came to end in 2013 after a ten year run with a total of 113 chapters.

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''Soul Eater'' is a {{shonen}} manga by Atsushi Ohkubo which has been regularly serialized in Monthly Shonen Gangan since 2004. It received a 51 episode anime by StudioBones Creator/StudioBones in 2008. As of January 2011, Monthly Shonen Gangan has ran a {{Prequel}} / {{Spinoff}} named ''Manga/SoulEaterNot'' by the same mangaka, running alongside the original series while covering and expanding on events prior to the original story. The manga came to end in 2013 after a ten year run with a total of 113 chapters.



The series is basically what happens when the plots of ''Manga/ShamanKing'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are [[JustForFun/XMeetsY pulsed together in a blender]], ''StudioBONES'' is put in charge of the animation, and what appears to be the world's craziest graffiti artist and world's biggest Creator/TimBurton fan is hired as animation director. It should be noted that the anime starts to deviate from the source manga after about the first third of the series.

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The series is basically what happens when the plots of ''Manga/ShamanKing'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are [[JustForFun/XMeetsY pulsed together in a blender]], ''StudioBONES'' ''Creator/StudioBONES'' is put in charge of the animation, and what appears to be the world's craziest graffiti artist and world's biggest Creator/TimBurton fan is hired as animation director. It should be noted that the anime starts to deviate from the source manga after about the first third of the series.
15th Aug '17 6:37:32 PM nombretomado
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The series is basically what happens when the plots of ''Manga/ShamanKing'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are [[XMeetsY pulsed together in a blender]], ''StudioBONES'' is put in charge of the animation, and what appears to be the world's craziest graffiti artist and world's biggest Creator/TimBurton fan is hired as animation director. It should be noted that the anime starts to deviate from the source manga after about the first third of the series.

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The series is basically what happens when the plots of ''Manga/ShamanKing'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are [[XMeetsY [[JustForFun/XMeetsY pulsed together in a blender]], ''StudioBONES'' is put in charge of the animation, and what appears to be the world's craziest graffiti artist and world's biggest Creator/TimBurton fan is hired as animation director. It should be noted that the anime starts to deviate from the source manga after about the first third of the series.



* XMeetsY: The series can be described rather accurately as ''Manga/HunterXHunter'' meets ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' meets ''Literature/HarryPotter'' meets Creator/TimBurton.
12th Aug '17 3:23:06 AM SeptimusHeap
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* {{Lolicon}}: Maka's dad is a non-exclusive one. The way he acts toward his own fairly young and relatively flat daughter is... [[{{Squick}} well, pretty creepy]]
--> '''Spirit''': Pumpkin panties...\\
'''Medusa''': Say another word and I will ''kill'' you!
1st Aug '17 8:06:02 AM R.G.
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Now with a {{Recap}} page [[Recap/SoulEater here.]]
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