History Manga / PandoraHearts

16th Oct '17 12:32:08 PM lilyofthevalley
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Lacie, Levi/Humpty Dumpty, the Sinclair Family, William West/Grim, Cheshire (or not), Rytas, Marie, Isla Yura, Elliot, the entire Nightray clan aside from the adopted kids, Fang, Uncle Oscar, Xai, Break, Echo, Noise, Oswald, both Alices, Cheshire (for real this time), Jack, and Oz. And Rufus and Vincent die in the epilogue from natural causes.]]

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:Lacie, Levi/Humpty Dumpty, the Sinclair Family, William West/Grim, Cheshire (or not), Rytas, Marie, Isla Yura, Elliot, the entire Nightray clan aside from the adopted kids, Fang, Uncle Oscar, Xai, Break, Echo, Noise, Oswald, both Alices, Cheshire (for real this time), Alice twins, Cheshire, Jack, and Oz. And Rufus and Vincent die in the epilogue from natural causes.]]



* PimpedOutDress: Many a fancy dress is worn. Some art has one or both Alices wearing a dress trimmed [[PrettyInMink with white fur]] and has a ShowgirlSkirt over a miniskirt.

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* PimpedOutDress: Many a fancy dress is worn. Some art has one or both Alices Alice twins wearing a dress trimmed [[PrettyInMink with white fur]] and has a ShowgirlSkirt over a miniskirt.



** [[spoiler:Oswald]] becomes this when he [[spoiler:deliberately mass murders a city full of innocents in order to keep them from becoming chains, which would exclude them from the hundred-year cycle of rebirth.]] He becomes even more the extremist in Retrace LXXVIII when he [[spoiler:attempts to execute Oz and then travel back in time in order to kill Lacie before she can give birth to the two Alices and before B-rabbit Oz can conceive a soul, all to the end of preventing the Tragedy of Sablier from ever happening]].
** [[spoiler:Leo]] also seems willing to become this in order to [[spoiler:fulfill his role as Glen Baskerville by destroying the Intention of the Abyss]], but when push comes to shove and [[spoiler:Oswald reawakens within him and prepares to execute Oz]], he appears to be too [[HeroicBSOD shell-shocked]] to actually go through with [[spoiler:killing his former friend]].

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** [[spoiler:Oswald]] becomes this when he [[spoiler:deliberately mass murders a city full of innocents in order to keep them from becoming chains, Chains, which would exclude them from the hundred-year cycle of rebirth.]] He becomes even more the extremist in Retrace LXXVIII extreme when he [[spoiler:attempts to execute Oz and then travel back in time in order to kill Lacie before she can give birth to the two Alices Alice twins and before B-rabbit Oz can conceive a soul, all to the end of preventing the Tragedy of Sablier from ever happening]].
** [[spoiler:Leo]] also seems willing to become this one in order to [[spoiler:fulfill his role as Glen Baskerville by destroying the Intention of the Abyss]], but when Abyss]]. When push comes to shove shove, and [[spoiler:Oswald reawakens within him and prepares to execute Oz]], he appears to be too [[HeroicBSOD shell-shocked]] to actually go through with [[spoiler:killing his former friend]].



** [[spoiler:Jack and Oswald]] used to be best friends, to the point where [[spoiler: Jack]] was the only one who could make [[spoiler: Oswald]] smile besides the latter's sister. Then [[spoiler: Jack]] completely lost his mind (which was already teetering on the edge) and [[spoiler: killed Oswald.]] [[spoiler:Oswald]] felt incredibly betrayed, and thus his revived soul became brutally obsessed with revenge. The interesting thing about this example is that unlike the traditional friends-become-quarreling-protagonist-and-antagonist version of this trope, these two ''both'' became antagonists. But they certainly aren't working together...
** [[spoiler: Oz and Leo,]] in a way. They used to be friends until [[spoiler: Elliot died,]] which signaled the end of [[spoiler: Leo's]] peace of mind. [[spoiler: Leo]] tried to kill [[spoiler: Oz]] and stated they should destroy their friendship and become enemies because he claimed it was the only logical solution and that they didn't really know each other anyway, having met through Elliot. [[spoiler: Oz]] refused to demolish their relationship, but then [[spoiler: Leo]] surrendered himself to [[spoiler: Oswald's]] control...

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** [[spoiler:Jack and Oswald]] used to be were best friends, to the point where [[spoiler: Jack]] was the only one who could make [[spoiler: Oswald]] [[spoiler:Oswald]] smile besides the latter's his sister. Then [[spoiler: Jack]] [[spoiler:Jack]] completely lost his mind (which was already teetering on the edge) and [[spoiler: killed [[spoiler:killed Oswald.]] [[spoiler:Oswald]] felt incredibly betrayed, and thus his revived soul became brutally obsessed with revenge. The interesting thing about this example is that unlike the traditional friends-become-quarreling-protagonist-and-antagonist version of this trope, these two ''both'' became antagonists. But they certainly aren't working together...
** [[spoiler: Oz [[spoiler:Oz and Leo,]] in a way. They used to be are friends until [[spoiler: Elliot died,]] which signaled [[spoiler:Elliot dies,]] emotionally destroying [[spoiler:Leo]]. Afterwards, [[spoiler:Leo]] joins [[spoiler:the Baskervilles as the end of [[spoiler: Leo's]] peace of mind. [[spoiler: Leo]] tried to kill [[spoiler: Oz]] and stated they should destroy their friendship and become enemies because he claimed it was the only logical solution and that they didn't new Glen]], [[StoppedCaring not really know each other anyway, having met through Elliot. [[spoiler: Oz]] refused caring about anything anymore]]. However, [[spoiler:Oz]] doesn't give up on him, and they come to demolish their relationship, but then [[spoiler: Leo]] surrendered himself to [[spoiler: Oswald's]] control...terms [[spoiler:before Oz's death.]]



** So much of these that it would need its own page to list all of them, but most notable is Retrace LXV: Collapse. [[spoiler:Or, more appropriately, seventy pages of the status quo getting ground to itsy bitsy pieces.]] It's the sort of WHAM that [[spoiler:literally invalidates everything we thought we knew.]]
** Then we have Retrace LXX: Oz. [[spoiler:Poor Oz faces the TomatoInTheMirror problem. Or, more specifically, the Rabbit In The Mirror...]]

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** So much of these that it would need its own page to list all of them, but most notable is Retrace LXV: Collapse. [[spoiler:Or, more appropriately, seventy pages of the status quo getting ground to itsy bitsy pieces.]] It's the sort of WHAM that [[spoiler:literally invalidates everything we thought we knew.]]
** Then we have Retrace LXX: Oz. [[spoiler:Poor Oz faces the TomatoInTheMirror problem. Or, more specifically, the Rabbit In The Mirror...]]



** Retrace LXXVI: Alice&Oz. The memories Alice has found throughout the series? [[spoiler:They're actually the shattered memories of Alyss's.]]

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** Retrace LXXVI: Alice&Oz. Alice & Oz. The memories Alice has found throughout the series? [[spoiler:They're actually the shattered memories of Alyss's.]]her sister's]]



** Retrace XC: Jurors. Hoooh, boy. [[spoiler:Turns out Jury aka the woman who brainwashed Gil into loyalty to his master and supposedly watched over Glen was [[HiddenDepths waaay more than we thought]]. She's actually just one of many Jurors, beings that [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm transcend human understanding]] that, basically, edit stories aka worlds around until they reach a satisfactory ending, after which they place it in an archive of sorts. Also, the whole world of Pandora Hearts as we know it is one of those stories, and the Jurors saw it fit to end it soon, to Glenwald's great disapproval. Also, about the Childern of Ill Omen? It was all a lie by the Jurors as they were a threat to their plans not to the worlds and all of the Baskervilles goals were lies as they only wanted to see how far they would break the Abyss.G]]

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** Retrace XC: Jurors. Hoooh, boy. [[spoiler:Turns out Jury aka the woman who brainwashed Gil into loyalty to his master and supposedly watched over Glen was [[HiddenDepths waaay more than we thought]]. She's actually just one of many Jurors, beings that [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm transcend human understanding]] that, basically, edit stories aka worlds around until they reach a satisfactory ending, after which they place it in an archive of sorts. Also, the whole world of Pandora Hearts as we know it is one of those stories, and the Jurors saw it fit to end it soon, to Glenwald's great disapproval. Also, about the Childern Children of Ill Omen? It was all a lie by the Jurors as they were a threat to their plans not to the worlds and all of the Baskervilles goals were lies as they only wanted to see how far they would break the Abyss.G]]



** As well as Gilbert's response to Xai asking if he "intends to defy his master" in the same conversation as the previous example, in which the former begins respectfully arguing with the latter over matters involving Oz. This reply is unusually aggressive and bold for Gilbert's younger self, although it still manages to retain its respectful tone to a certain extent:

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** As well as Gilbert's response to Xai asking if he "intends to defy his master" in the same conversation as the previous example, in which the former begins respectfully arguing with the latter over matters involving Oz. This reply is unusually aggressive and bold for Gilbert's younger self, although it still manages to retain its respectful tone to a certain extent:



--> [[spoiler:'''Break:''' "In short, the Oz we know...may not be the real Oz Vessalius..."]]

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--> [[spoiler:'''Break:''' "In '''Break:''' "[[spoiler:In short, the Oz we know...may not be the real Oz Vessalius..."]]]]"



--> [[spoiler:'''Jack:''' "This body does not belong to Oz Vessalius."]]

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--> [[spoiler:'''Jack:''' "This '''Jack:''' "[[spoiler:This body does not belong to Oz Vessalius."]]]]"



--> '''Oscar [as a MeaningfulEcho]:''' "Oz, you have no idea what it meant for me to be held by that tiny hand of yours. [[spoiler:...What torture it was."]]

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--> '''Oscar [as a MeaningfulEcho]:''' "Oz, '''Oscar:''' "[[MeaningfulEcho Oz, you have no idea what it meant for me to be held by that tiny hand of yours.yours]]. [[spoiler:...What torture it was."]]



-->[[spoiler:'''Break:''' "Sharon, Reim, I don't want to die... "]]

* WhenSheSmiles: In which [[LittleMissSnarker Alice]] smiles and does cute things, Oz blushes and/or laughs, and Oz's feelings towards Alice [[CharacterDevelopment grow]].

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-->[[spoiler:'''Break:''' "Sharon, -->'''Break:''' "[[spoiler:Sharon, Reim, I don't want to die... "]]

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* WhenSheSmiles: In which When [[LittleMissSnarker Alice]] smiles and does cute things, Oz blushes and/or laughs, and Oz's feelings towards Alice [[CharacterDevelopment grow]].
15th Oct '17 5:57:07 PM CyokieRevott
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* PimpedOutDress: Many a fancy dress is worn. Some art has one or both Alice's wearing a dress trimmed [[PrettyInMink with white fur]] and has a ShowgirlSkirt over a miniskirt

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* PimpedOutDress: Many a fancy dress is worn. Some art has one or both Alice's Alices wearing a dress trimmed [[PrettyInMink with white fur]] and has a ShowgirlSkirt over a miniskirtminiskirt.
15th Oct '17 5:55:32 PM CyokieRevott
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** Oz, most notably in Retrace XLVIII.

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** Oz, most Oz (most notably in Retrace XLVIII.XLVIII), although it's worth mentioning that he only is this when absolutely necessary.
14th Oct '17 6:54:55 PM CyokieRevott
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* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Jack's plan on sinking the world to the Abyss consist of him using Xai Vessalius in order to raise B-Rabbit's consciousness as his own son, while leaving enough clues for him to learn the true events that happened at Sablier. He also spread the rumor of B-Rabbit being a vicious chain in order for no one to contract it until Oz is ready. He also [[Scapegoat set up the Nightrays and Baskervilles as the instigator of the tragedy so that they could take action against the Vessalius Family.]] And he pushed Oz into finding Alice's memories so he can get some shards of his soul back and planned to take over Oz once B-Rabbit's powers matured. His plan would have gone through if it weren't for the Baskervilles shattering the five sealing stones, setting Oswald's consciousness free and creating a wrench in his plans.]]

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* BatmanGambit: [[spoiler: Jack's plan on sinking the world to the Abyss consist of him using Xai Vessalius in order to raise B-Rabbit's consciousness as his own son, while leaving enough clues for him to learn the true events that happened at Sablier. He also spread the rumor of B-Rabbit being a vicious chain in order for no one to contract it until Oz is ready. He also [[Scapegoat set up the Nightrays and Baskervilles as the instigator of the tragedy so that they could take action against the Vessalius Family.]] And he pushed Oz into finding Alice's memories so he can get some shards of his soul back and planned to take over Oz once B-Rabbit's powers matured. His plan would have gone through if it weren't for the Baskervilles shattering the five sealing stones, setting Oswald's consciousness free and creating a wrench in his plans.]]



* BeautyBrainsAndBrawn: Our primary trio of Oz, Gilbert, and Alice, as well as our secondary trio of Sharon, Reim, and Break, all initially appear to fill this dynamic in their respective orders. But as soon as this trope is established, they start subverting it all over the place. For instance, both Break and Oz are ''way'' [[XanatosSpeedChess smarter]] [[SmarterThanYouLook than they seem]], Gilbert [[CowardlyLion can actually put up a fight]], and Alice [[DeclarationOfProtection isn't as randomly violent as her rough 'n tough demeanor makes her seem]], nor [[FauxActionGirl as physically powerful.]]
** So in other words, for the primary trio, Oz is brains, Alice is beauty, and Gilbert is brawn (although the last two are definitely debatable and seem to switch, the first is indisputable). For the secondary trio it's a little more complicated considering Break is both the smartest one of them ''and'' the only one who can fight, but ultimately we're forced to put their positions as Break being brawn, Reim being brains, and Sharon being beauty.

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* BeautyBrainsAndBrawn: Our primary trio of Oz, Gilbert, and Alice, as well as our secondary trio of Sharon, Reim, and Break, all initially appear to fill this dynamic in their respective orders. But as soon as this trope is established, they start subverting it all over the place. (This also goes for the [[spoiler:past trio.]] For instance, both Break and Oz are ''way'' [[XanatosSpeedChess smarter]] [[SmarterThanYouLook than they seem]], Gilbert [[CowardlyLion can actually put up a fight]], and Alice [[DeclarationOfProtection isn't as randomly violent as her rough 'n tough demeanor makes her seem]], nor [[FauxActionGirl as physically powerful.]]
** So in other words, for the primary trio, Oz is brains, and Alice is beauty, and Gilbert is brawn (although the last two are definitely debatable switch off as beauty and seem to switch, the first is indisputable). brawn.
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For the secondary trio it's a little more complicated considering Break is both the smartest one of them member ''and'' the only one member who can fight, but ultimately we're forced to put their positions as Break being brawn, Reim being brains, and Sharon being beauty.beauty.
** As for the [[spoiler:past trio,]] [[spoiler:Lacie]] is indisputably beauty, but [[spoiler:Jack]] and [[spoiler:Oswald]] could both individually be considered brains and brawn.
14th Oct '17 6:49:44 PM CyokieRevott
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** So in other words, for the primary trio, Oz is brains, Alice is beauty, and Gilbert is brawn (although the last two are definitely debatable and seem to switch, the first is indisputable). For the secondary trio it's a little more complicated considering Break is both the smartest one of them ''and'' the only one who can fight, but ultimately we're forced to put their positions as Break being brawn, Reim being brains, and Sharon being beauty.
14th Oct '17 6:38:30 PM CyokieRevott
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* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler:Fang, Elliot, Oscar, Xerxes, Echo/Noise, and the list goes on...]]

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* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler:Fang, Elliot, Oscar, Xerxes, Echo/Noise, and [[spoiler:And almost everyone does by the list goes on...end of the manga.]]
14th Oct '17 6:36:31 PM CyokieRevott
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* CoversAlwaysLie: In a minor, subtle way. The cover of the first volume is Oz, posing heroically, giving off the distinct impression that ''Pandora Hearts'' is an action manga or...literally every other shonen manga. Of which is...[[DysfunctionJunction not]] [[CastFullOfCrazy exactly]] [[MoralityKitchenSink true,]] [[JigsawPuzzlePlot to]] [[PsychologicalThriller say]] [[PsychologicalHorror the]] [[{{Understatement}} least.]]

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* CoversAlwaysLie: In a minor, subtle way. The cover of the first volume is Oz, posing heroically, giving off the distinct impression that ''Pandora Hearts'' is an action manga or...literally every other shonen manga. Of which is...[[DysfunctionJunction not]] [[CastFullOfCrazy exactly]] [[MoralityKitchenSink true,]] [[JigsawPuzzlePlot to]] [[PsychologicalThriller say]] [[PsychologicalHorror the]] [[{{Understatement}} [[MindScrew least.]]
14th Oct '17 6:33:39 PM CyokieRevott
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* CoversAlwaysLie: In a minor, subtle way. The cover of the first volume is Oz, posing heroically, giving off the distinct impression that ''Pandora Hearts'' is an action manga or...literally every other shonen manga. Of which is...[[DysfunctionJunction not]] [[CastFullOfCrazy exactly]] [[MoralityKitchenSink true.]]

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* CoversAlwaysLie: In a minor, subtle way. The cover of the first volume is Oz, posing heroically, giving off the distinct impression that ''Pandora Hearts'' is an action manga or...literally every other shonen manga. Of which is...[[DysfunctionJunction not]] [[CastFullOfCrazy exactly]] [[MoralityKitchenSink true.true,]] [[JigsawPuzzlePlot to]] [[PsychologicalThriller say]] [[PsychologicalHorror the]] [[{{Understatement}} least.]]
14th Oct '17 6:31:57 PM CyokieRevott
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* CoversAlwaysLie: In a minor, subtle way. The cover of the first volume is Oz, posing heroically, giving off the distinct impression that ''Pandora Hearts'' is an action manga or...literally every other shonen manga. A more appropriate cover would have more [[spoiler:blood and tears involved...]]

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* CoversAlwaysLie: In a minor, subtle way. The cover of the first volume is Oz, posing heroically, giving off the distinct impression that ''Pandora Hearts'' is an action manga or...literally every other shonen manga. A more appropriate cover would have more [[spoiler:blood and tears involved...Of which is...[[DysfunctionJunction not]] [[CastFullOfCrazy exactly]] [[MoralityKitchenSink true.]]
14th Oct '17 5:49:09 AM CyokieRevott
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* OminousLatinChant: Some soundtracks have this.

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* OminousLatinChant: OminousLatinChanting: Some soundtracks have this.
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