History Manga / Ooku

18th Jun '18 10:52:48 PM lalaTKG
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** [[spoiler: Ieyoshi, toward his ''own daughter'' Iesada. He poisoned her first husband, tried to prevent her getting a harem, sabotaged her second marriage by having her marry a literal child, then poisoned him ''and'' Iesada, all because if ''he'' can't have Iesada, ''no one'' can.]]

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** [[spoiler: Ieyoshi, toward his ''own daughter'' Iesada. He poisoned her first husband, tried to prevent her getting a harem, sabotaged her second marriage by having her marry a literal child, then poisoned him ''and'' Iesada, all because if ''he'' [[IfICantHaveYou can't have Iesada, Iesada]], ''no one'' can.]]
18th Jun '18 10:46:58 PM lalaTKG
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* RoyalHarem: The main setting of the story. The Ooku is gender-flipped from the classic male ruler/female concubines pattern but otherwise has all the typical features: strictly segregated from the outside world, full of scandalous sexual behavior and luxurious excess, and constantly involved in political machinations. The different ways in which men end up in the Ooku are explored several times: some are coerced like Arikoto and Sadayasu and become {{SexSlave}}s; some like Sutezo choose to enter the harem simply because it's a drastic increase in their standard of living; others like Emmonosuke and Kashiwagi are ambitious and want to gain access to the shogun; some are escaping much more brutal forms of prostitution like Sugishita; Akimoto and Yunoshin both entered after falling in love and then finding the prospect of an arranged marriage unendurable.

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* RoyalHarem: The main setting of the story. The Ooku is gender-flipped from the classic male ruler/female concubines pattern but otherwise has all the typical features: strictly segregated from the outside world, full of scandalous sexual behavior and luxurious excess, and constantly involved in political machinations. The different ways in which men end up in the Ooku are explored several times: some are coerced like Arikoto and Sadayasu and become {{SexSlave}}s; {{Sex Slave}}s; some like Sutezo choose to enter the harem simply because it's a drastic increase in their standard of living; others like Emmonosuke and Kashiwagi are ambitious and want to gain access to the shogun; some are escaping much more brutal forms of prostitution like Sugishita; Akimoto and Yunoshin both entered after falling in love and then finding the prospect of an arranged marriage unendurable.
18th Jun '18 10:35:09 PM lalaTKG
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** Once Ienobu's succession is secure, things calm down as she's still of childbearing age and soon produces an heir. However, Ienobu's untimely death and the obvious frailty of the child shogun Ietsugu lead to a breakdown of discipline in the Inner Chambers and a resurgence in assassinations as Yoshimune moves to ensure that the other cadet branches will not impede her succession.

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** Once Ienobu's succession is secure, things calm down as she's still of childbearing age and soon produces an heir. However, Ienobu's untimely death and the obvious frailty of the child shogun Ietsugu lead led to a breakdown of discipline in the Inner Chambers and a resurgence in assassinations as Yoshimune moves to ensure that the other cadet branches will not impede her succession.



* {{Matriarchy}}: Of the Patriarchy Flip variety. There was a moment relatively early in the Red Face Pox era when ''massive'' polygyny could have been adopted as an alternate solution to the gender imbalance but the importance of family identity in Japanese culture and the shogunate's fear of consolidation of noble houses lead to female-line inheritance instead. Within four generations, it's considered a bit scandalous to suggest that men should EVER be allowed to inherit. When Shogun Yoshimune is throwing out pretty much everything she was brought up to believe about gender roles, she still points out that matrilineal descent has the practical advantage of [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe being much, MUCH easier to prove]].

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* {{Matriarchy}}: Of the Patriarchy Flip variety. There was a moment relatively early in the Red Face Pox era when ''massive'' polygyny could have been adopted as an alternate solution to the gender imbalance but the importance of family identity in Japanese culture and the shogunate's fear of consolidation of noble houses lead led to female-line inheritance instead. Within four generations, it's considered a bit scandalous to suggest that men should EVER be allowed to inherit. When Shogun Yoshimune is throwing out pretty much everything she was brought up to believe about gender roles, she still points out that matrilineal descent has the practical advantage of [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe being much, MUCH easier to prove]].
18th Jun '18 10:31:31 PM lalaTKG
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* DeathOfAChild: You better believe it. The Redface Pox kills off thousands of young men and boys in the first chapter. Girls may be at somewhat less risk, but this is still an era with very high child mortality. Ienobu's efforts to produce an heir are especially notable, as all three children by her official consort die shortly after birth. Ietsugu, her heir by her young concubine Sakyo, is the longest-lived but still survives only to the tender age of 7.



* InfantImmortality: HaHaHaNo. The Redface Pox kills off thousands of young men and boys in the first chapter. Girls may be at somewhat less risk, but this is still an era with very high child mortality. Ienobu's efforts to produce an heir are especially notable, as all three children by her official consort die shortly after birth. Ietsugu, her heir by her young concubine Sakyo, is the longest-lived but still survives only to the tender age of 7.
18th Jun '18 10:19:56 PM lalaTKG
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** For Yoshimune, [[Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI it's good to be the Shogun.]] Within the Ooku, she's known for just grabbing a guy out of the blue for a quickie in the bushes or a supply closet. She does apologize and withdraw when Sugishita reacts with terror, but she didn't feel the need to check with him before pouncing

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** For Yoshimune, [[Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI it's good to be the Shogun.]] Within the Ooku, she's known for just grabbing a guy out of the blue for a quickie in the bushes or a supply closet. She does apologize and withdraw when Sugishita reacts with terror, but she didn't feel the need to check with him before pouncingpouncing.
14th Jun '18 12:07:28 PM kazokuhouou
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** The reverse situation is already being set up by volume 11: [[spoiler: Ienari has so many children that one of these inevitably happens. Harusada poisoned the grandchildren she didn't like, which gave the other concubines the idea to poison ''their'' rivals. As a result, only about half of Ienari's children made it to adulthood. Ienari nips the crisis in the bud by abdicating in favor of his son Ieyoshi.]]

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** The reverse situation is already being set up by volume 11: [[spoiler: Ienari has so many children that one of these inevitably happens. Harusada poisoned the grandchildren she didn't like, which gave the other concubines the idea to poison ''their'' rivals. As a result, only about half of Ienari's children made it to adulthood. Ienari nips the crisis in the bud by abdicating in favor of his son Ieyoshi.Ieyoshi, and then prevents another from even starting by declaring Iesada Ieyoshi's heir.]]
1st May '18 10:47:52 AM Anduryen
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* AdaptationalHeroism: While by no means a saint, Ienari of ''Ooku'' is a far cry from the real life Ienari: while the real Ienari was a degenerate who cared more about his harem than government, Ooku!Ienari is well-meaning but used as a puppet ruler by Harusada. Ienari is also instrumental in developing and helping to spread the new Redface Pox vaccine. [[spoiler: It's revealed at his deathbed that he deliberately asked the scribes to present him in historical records as the real life version was, and to omit any mention of the Redface Pox, for fear that foreign powers would find out about the low male population and take advantage of it.]]


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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade: While by no means a saint, Ienari of ''Ooku'' is a far cry from the real life Ienari: while the real Ienari was a degenerate who cared more about his harem than government, Ooku!Ienari is well-meaning but used as a puppet ruler by Harusada. Ienari is also instrumental in developing and helping to spread the new Redface Pox vaccine. [[spoiler: It's revealed at his deathbed that he deliberately asked the scribes to present him in historical records as the real life version was, and to omit any mention of the Redface Pox, for fear that foreign powers would find out about the low male population and take advantage of it.]]
17th Apr '18 3:18:38 PM kazokuhouou
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** Ienari admits on his deathbed that [[spoiler: ''he'' was the one behind the rumor that he was a spendthrift degenerate, to hide any knowledge of the Redface Pox from outsiders.]]
13th Jan '18 5:49:50 AM Chabal2
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When Gosaku realizes that he will likely be executed for teaching Hollander medicine and the (completely accidental) death of Sadanobu's nephew, he only pleads that his students be spared, ensuring that the inoculation procedure doesn't die out.]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: HeroicSacrifice:
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[[spoiler: When Gosaku realizes that he will likely be executed for teaching Hollander medicine and the (completely accidental) death of Sadanobu's nephew, he only pleads that his students be spared, ensuring that the inoculation procedure doesn't die out.]]



* LadyLand: Not only have women supplanted men in all remotely dangerous or strenuous occupations, but by the time of Yoshimune they have also almost entirely sidelined men in rulership and administrative positions.

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* LadyLand: Not only have women supplanted men in all remotely dangerous or strenuous occupations, but by the time of Yoshimune they have also almost entirely sidelined men in rulership and administrative positions. Deconstructed, however, in that men have nothing to do but sire children but ''still'' get preferential treatment over women.


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* ObliviousToLove: Arikoto had no idea the shogun he's accompanied since birth had feelings for him, despite every other advisor telling him so (he thinks she views him as an old fart).


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* SeenItAll: After a huge fire ravages Edo (including part of the castle), it's noted that the senior officials' jaded reactions are due to having experienced very tumultuous times.
3rd Dec '17 5:37:44 AM RedScharlach
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* BrutalHonesty: Zenjiro got his scar when one of the women demanded to know if he'd been sleeping around. He immediatly said that he had, since they were paying him, much like she had. She didn't take it well.

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* BrutalHonesty: Zenjiro got his scar when one of the women demanded to know if he'd been sleeping around. He immediatly immediately said that he had, since they were paying him, much like she had. She didn't take it well.



* {{Gendercide}}: Comparatively mild with the gender ratio stablizing at 1:4, but it still has dramatic ramifications.

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* {{Gendercide}}: Comparatively mild with the gender ratio stablizing stabilizing at 1:4, but it still has dramatic ramifications.



* YoungerThanTheyLook: Aonuma is only in his 20s, but people constantly mistake him as a 30 year old.

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* YoungerThanTheyLook: Aonuma is only in his 20s, but people constantly mistake him as for a 30 year old.30-year-old.
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