History Manga / Ooku

29th Sep '17 8:17:09 AM Sukeban
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** While using thous and thees in the early volumes (set in the 1600s) is appropriate to the English spoken at the time in Jacobine England, doing it in more recent volumes (set in the 1800s and reaching the Victorian era) is somewhat less so.
6th Jul '17 10:54:00 PM nombretomado
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** Reading articles on the shoguns on TheOtherWiki can give away some plot developments, such as that Tsunayoshi will fail to conceive another child, or that [[spoiler: Yoshimune will choose Ieshige as her successor]], although it can't answer the most important question of all: when and how will the Redface Pox be eliminated?

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** Reading articles on the shoguns on TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki can give away some plot developments, such as that Tsunayoshi will fail to conceive another child, or that [[spoiler: Yoshimune will choose Ieshige as her successor]], although it can't answer the most important question of all: when and how will the Redface Pox be eliminated?
15th Jun '17 2:08:30 PM kazokuhouou
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** The reverse situation is already being set up by volume 11: [[spoiler: Ienari has so many children that one of these is inevitable. It doesn't help that Harusada's poisoned the ones she doesn't like.]]

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** The reverse situation is already being set up by volume 11: [[spoiler: Ienari has so many children that one of these is inevitable. It doesn't help that Harusada's inevitably happens. Harusada poisoned the ones grandchildren she doesn't like.didn't like, which gave the other concubines the idea to poison ''their'' rivals. As a result, only about half of Ienari's children made it to adulthood. Ienari nips the crisis in the bud by abdicating in favor of his son Ieyoshi.]]
15th Jun '17 1:35:51 PM kazokuhouou
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* CainAndAbel: Munetake toward Ieshige, a rare case of the younger sibling in the Cain role. Carrying a lifelong resentment at being passed over in favor of the older sister she deems incompetent, she passes it on to her daughter Sadanobu, whom she has groomed as a future shogun and a rival for Ieharu's daughter Chiyo. Ieharu anticipates a powergrab and appoints Sadanobu as the head of another family to remove her from the succession altogether. [[spoiler:Munetake has the last laugh after all. At the end of volume 10, Sadanobu is asked to be the senior counselor for the new shogun Ienari.]]
** CainAndAbelAndSeth: Yoshimune's third daughter Munetada also founds a branch house, and her daughter Harusada is the one who convinces Ieharu to remove Sadanobu from the succession, making the Hitotsubashi branch next in line. [[spoiler: The next shogun is her son Toyochiyo (formerly Takechiyo), who takes the shogun name Ienari, and once his accession is secure Harusada has Sadanobu dismissed.]]

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* CainAndAbel: Munetake toward Ieshige, a rare case of the younger sibling in the Cain role. Carrying a lifelong resentment at being passed over in favor of the older sister she deems incompetent, she passes it on to her daughter Sadanobu, whom she has groomed as a future shogun and a rival for Ieharu's daughter Chiyo. Ieharu anticipates a powergrab and appoints Sadanobu as the head of another family to remove her from the succession altogether. [[spoiler:Munetake [[spoiler:Look below to see who has the last laugh after all. At the end of volume 10, Sadanobu is asked to be the senior counselor for the new shogun Ienari.laugh.]]
** CainAndAbelAndSeth: Yoshimune's third daughter Munetada also founds a branch house, and her daughter Harusada is the one who convinces Ieharu to remove Sadanobu from the succession, making the Hitotsubashi branch next in line. [[spoiler: The next shogun is her son Toyochiyo (formerly Takechiyo), who takes the shogun name Ienari, and once his accession is secure Harusada has Sadanobu dismissed.dismissed as senior councilor (for a rather petty reason, at that).]]
13th Jun '17 1:44:43 PM TheWanderer
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* SelfPoisoningGambit: [[spoiler:O-Shiga shares poisoned food with Harusada in an attempt to kill her.]]
10th May '17 1:12:11 PM Grudgeal
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Ienari as Shogun [[spoiler:uses some extremely heavy-handed measures to ensure the Redface Pox is finally exterminated, forcibly vaccinating every male child in Japan and taking children from their families if they refuse, and demolishing homes to build enclosures for bears with the weakened Redface Pox strain. He also drives the Shogunate nearly into bankruptcy by bankrolling the entire operation himself.]]

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Ienari as Shogun [[spoiler:uses some extremely heavy-handed measures to ensure the Redface Pox is finally exterminated, forcibly vaccinating every male child in Japan and taking children from their families if they refuse, and demolishing homes to build enclosures for bears with the weakened Redface Pox strain. He also drives the Shogunate nearly into bankruptcy by bankrolling the entire operation himself.]]]] Given that Japan has almost completely recovered a generation later, Ienari's methods becomes a case of TheExtremistWasRight.
10th May '17 1:10:30 PM Grudgeal
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* AdaptationalHeroism: While by no means a saint, Ienari of ''Ooku'' is a far cry from the real life Ienari: while the real Ienari was a degenerate who cared more about his harem than government, Ooku!Ienari was a well-meaning man kept from government by his control freak mother, and worked secretly to help spread the Redface Pox vaccine. [[spoiler: It's revealed at his deathbed that he deliberately asked the scribes to present him in historical records as the real life version was, and to omit any mention of the Redface Pox, for fear that foreign powers would find out about the low male population and take advantage of it.]]

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* AdaptationalHeroism: While by no means a saint, Ienari of ''Ooku'' is a far cry from the real life Ienari: while the real Ienari was a degenerate who cared more about his harem than government, Ooku!Ienari was a is well-meaning man kept from government but used as a puppet ruler by his control freak mother, Harusada. Ienari is also instrumental in developing and worked secretly helping to help spread the new Redface Pox vaccine. [[spoiler: It's revealed at his deathbed that he deliberately asked the scribes to present him in historical records as the real life version was, and to omit any mention of the Redface Pox, for fear that foreign powers would find out about the low male population and take advantage of it.]]


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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Ienari as Shogun [[spoiler:uses some extremely heavy-handed measures to ensure the Redface Pox is finally exterminated, forcibly vaccinating every male child in Japan and taking children from their families if they refuse, and demolishing homes to build enclosures for bears with the weakened Redface Pox strain. He also drives the Shogunate nearly into bankruptcy by bankrolling the entire operation himself.]]
10th May '17 1:01:30 PM Grudgeal
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*** Sadanobu shows up for a brief appearance back at her fief, [[spoiler:encouraging the use of the new pox vaccine in her domain.]]
4th May '17 2:06:53 PM Grudgeal
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* OffingTheOffspring: [[spoiler:Harusada kills her own grandchildren.]]

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* OffingTheOffspring: [[spoiler:Harusada kills her own grandchildren. She also fully intended to kill Ienari when Shige and O-Shiga intervene.]]
4th May '17 2:04:08 PM Grudgeal
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* The eighth arc (chapters 35-39 ): Lady Okitsugu, Senior Chancellor of Ieshige's daughter Ieharu, calls on the men of Deshima, the island where the Dutch are permitted to conduct trade with the Shogunate, to assist her in continuing Yoshimune's search for a cure to red-face pox...including a half-Dutch outcast named Gosaku.

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* The eighth arc (chapters 35-39 ): Lady Okitsugu, Senior Chancellor of Ieshige's daughter Tokugawa Ieharu, calls on the men of Deshima, the island where the Dutch are permitted to conduct trade with the Shogunate, to assist her in continuing Yoshimune's search for a cure to red-face pox...including a half-Dutch outcast named Gosaku.
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