History Manga / Historie

3rd May '16 10:30:56 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* MosesInTheBullrushes: [[spoiler:Eumenes is actually a Scythian who was adopted by a slaver and raised as a Greek.]]

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* MosesInTheBullrushes: MosesInTheBulrushes: [[spoiler:Eumenes is actually a Scythian who was adopted by a slaver and raised as a Greek.]]
11th Apr '16 8:11:24 PM Doug86
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The new manga series and ''magnum opus'' from Creator/HitoshiIwaaki, maker of ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}''. ''Historie'' is a historical epic that tells the story of Eumenes of Cardia, secretary and servant of AlexanderTheGreat. [[ItWasHisSled Just don't check his Wiki entry]].

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The new manga series and ''magnum opus'' from Creator/HitoshiIwaaki, maker of ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}''. ''Historie'' is a historical epic that tells the story of Eumenes of Cardia, secretary and servant of AlexanderTheGreat.UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat. [[ItWasHisSled Just don't check his Wiki entry]].
6th Dec '15 5:42:58 PM Willbyr
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23rd Sep '15 12:52:59 PM Willbyr
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This manga provides examples of:

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This !!This manga provides examples of:of:
10th Feb '15 10:47:27 AM fusilcontrafusil
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The new manga series and ''magnum opus'' from Creator/HitoshiIwaaki, maker of ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}''. ''Historie'' is a historical epic that tells the story of Eumenes of Cardia, secretary and servant of Alexander the Great. [[ItWasHisSled Just don't check his Wiki entry]].

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The new manga series and ''magnum opus'' from Creator/HitoshiIwaaki, maker of ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}''. ''Historie'' is a historical epic that tells the story of Eumenes of Cardia, secretary and servant of Alexander the Great.AlexanderTheGreat. [[ItWasHisSled Just don't check his Wiki entry]].
7th Oct '14 10:08:11 PM fusilcontrafusil
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The new manga series and ''magnum opus'' from Hitoshi Iwaaki, maker of ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}''. ''Historie'' is a historical epic that tells the story of Eumenes of Cardia, secretary and servant of Alexander the Great. [[ItWasHisSled Just don't check his Wiki entry]].

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The new manga series and ''magnum opus'' from Hitoshi Iwaaki, Creator/HitoshiIwaaki, maker of ''Manga/{{Parasyte}}''. ''Historie'' is a historical epic that tells the story of Eumenes of Cardia, secretary and servant of Alexander the Great. [[ItWasHisSled Just don't check his Wiki entry]].



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28th Oct '13 8:14:37 AM fusilcontrafusil
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** Alexander didn't have a snake birthmark on his face.

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** Alexander didn't have a large snake birthmark on his face.
7th Jul '13 1:58:02 PM DeaThShiNoBi
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* {{Foregone Conclusion}}: Naturally, in a historical manga. [[spoiler:Philip is going to die and pass the throne to Alexander, who will eventually die prematurely. Eumenes will go with Alexander on his Asian campaign, take part in the battles of Alexander's successors, be turned on by parts of his soldiers then captured by Antigonus, and will be killed in captivity.]]

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* {{Foregone Conclusion}}: Naturally, in a historical manga. [[spoiler:Philip is going to die and pass the throne to Alexander, who be assassinated by one of his bodyguards, Alexander will eventually die prematurely. after 11 years of campaigning, splitting his empire as nobles and generals to attempt to vie for power. Eumenes will go with Alexander on his Asian campaign, take part in the battles of Alexander's successors, be turned on by parts of his soldiers then captured by Antigonus, and will be killed in captivity.]]
7th Jul '13 1:49:40 PM DeaThShiNoBi
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* TheAce: Eumenes approaches MartyStu level. He is excellent at everything. ''Everything''. Let's start with the [[CaptainObvious obvious]], he's smart. But he should be, considering that he reads scrolls as essentially his only activity (at least in his childhood). While he is not always the best at a particular skill (for example, he was best at "only" one out of 5 events in his physical training class), he's probably the second best when he isn't the best. Despite being a [[MinoredInAssKicking supposedly meek bookworm]], he is able to beat the snot out of an older student in boxing (his first time boxing), this student being the one who [[TheWorfEffect beat up]] [[TheBigGuy Nicogenes]][[labelnote:note]]Eumenes' athletic friend who placed 1st in the other 4 events in the physical training class[[/labelnote]], as well as beating the snot out of his older brother (athletics being supposedly the only thing his brother is good at). He's a [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist genius inventor]]. When he begins to learn how to use a sword for the first time in his life, he quickly becomes the best among his friends besides the guy teaching them (at that, almost beating the teacher in a duel). He's an ingenious battle tactician before ever having any battle experience including incorporating thought-up-on-the-spot (and untested) inventions into his tactics flawlessly. He [[TheWorfEffect defeats]] Gelades (a grizzled veteran known for his combat skill) in his ''first ever real fight'' (he never personally fought in his "first battle"), then stomped on a few [[{{Mook}} regular soldiers]]. Then, after a very short amount of time, he becomes one of the Macedonian king's ([[TheMainCharactersDoEverything very few]]) go to guys for advice. And... I think you know he's pretty deep in MartyStu territory when King Philip II himself praises his skill as a commander and predicts that, if pitted against Alexander in battle (each with 10,000 troops), he would lose the first two, and win the third. When Alexander protests that there wouldn't be three battles because he would kill the enemy commander in the first battle, Philip claims Alexander would lose at least 3,000 men, and would likely be a casualty himself, whereas even if Eumenes lost 9,000 men, he would never be a casualty. Keep in mind that this is '''Alexander the Great''' that we're talking about here. This isn't close to all of the relevant examples. In fact, flip to anywhere in the manga and you're more likely than not going to find Eumenes [[MarySue Suing it up]].

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* TheAce: Eumenes approaches MartyStu level. He is excellent at everything. ''Everything''. Let's start with the [[CaptainObvious obvious]], he's smart. But he should be, considering that he reads scrolls as essentially his only activity (at least in his childhood). While he is not always the best at a particular skill (for example, he was best at "only" one out of 5 events in his physical training class), he's probably the second best when he isn't the best. Despite being a [[MinoredInAssKicking supposedly meek bookworm]], he is able to beat the snot out of an older student in boxing (his first time boxing), this student being the one who [[TheWorfEffect beat up]] [[TheBigGuy Nicogenes]][[labelnote:note]]Eumenes' athletic friend who placed 1st in the other 4 events in the physical training class[[/labelnote]], as well as beating the snot out of his older brother (athletics being supposedly the only thing his brother is good at). He's a [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist genius inventor]]. When he begins to learn how to use a sword for the first time in his life, he quickly becomes the best among his friends besides the guy teaching them (at that, almost beating the teacher in a duel). He's an ingenious battle tactician before ever having any battle experience including incorporating thought-up-on-the-spot (and untested) inventions into his tactics flawlessly. He [[TheWorfEffect defeats]] Gelades (a grizzled veteran known for his combat skill) in his ''first ever real fight'' (he never personally fought in his "first battle"), then stomped on a few [[{{Mook}} regular soldiers]]. Then, after a very short amount of time, he becomes one of the Macedonian king's ([[TheMainCharactersDoEverything very few]]) go to guys for advice. And... I think you know he's pretty deep in MartyStu territory when King Philip II himself praises his skill as a commander and predicts that, if pitted against Alexander in battle (each with 10,000 troops), he would lose the first two, and win the third. When Alexander protests that there wouldn't be three battles because he would kill the enemy commander in the first battle, Philip claims Alexander would lose at least 3,000 men, and would likely be a casualty himself, whereas even if Eumenes lost 9,000 men, he would never be a casualty. Keep in mind that this is '''Alexander the Great''' that we're talking about here. This isn't close to all of the relevant examples. In fact, flip to anywhere in the manga and you're more likely than not going to find Eumenes [[MarySue Suing it up]]. It's at least worth mentioning that the RealLife Eumenes was undoubtedly an excellent general, though little else is known about his actual life.
27th Jun '13 9:57:58 PM daveshan
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**The bit between Philip and Alexander isn't that bad for several reasons. Philip was no slouch of a general himself, he built up one of the best empires of the time. Also, Alexander was maybe 13 at the time the conversation takes place. Finally, generals often did live through defeats and retreats; the saying "He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day" exists for a reason.
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