History Manga / FistOfTheBlueSky

11th Apr '17 7:40:17 PM Willbyr
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* {{Retcon}} - One of the series' attractions for old fans of ''[[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar Hokuto no Ken]]'' is its promise of how it will finally justify the continuity travesty that is "The Land of Shura." Yet in the first ten pages Hara has already dug himself a new hole to jump into by making the Kenshiro we have known to love be a baby ''born in Japan again.'' Which is he? Chinese or Japanese?

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* {{Retcon}} - One of the series' attractions for old fans of ''[[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar Hokuto ''Hokuto no Ken]]'' Ken'' is its promise of how it will finally justify the continuity travesty that is "The Land of Shura." Yet in the first ten pages Hara has already dug himself a new hole to jump into by making the Kenshiro we have known to love be a baby ''born in Japan again.'' Which is he? Chinese or Japanese?



* YouAreAlreadyDead: Yup, just like [[FistOfTheNorthStar the original.]]

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* YouAreAlreadyDead: Yup, just like [[FistOfTheNorthStar [[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar the original.]]
26th Mar '17 1:15:14 PM nombretomado
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* {{Reincarnation}} - Towards the end of the series, Kenshiro starts getting VisionsOfAnotherSelf after encountering a mystical statue. In one past life he brought Hokuto Shinken to Japan with his two older brothers (a pair of Toki and Raoh lookalikes) and Kukai. In another he honorably executes OdaNobunaga (who coincidentally got his own manga by Tetsuo Hara after the end of ''Blue Sky''). This concept brings up the obvious question of whether Kasumi is the past-life incarnation of ''Hokuto no Ken'''s Kenshiro.

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* {{Reincarnation}} - Towards the end of the series, Kenshiro starts getting VisionsOfAnotherSelf after encountering a mystical statue. In one past life he brought Hokuto Shinken to Japan with his two older brothers (a pair of Toki and Raoh lookalikes) and Kukai. In another he honorably executes OdaNobunaga UsefulNotes/OdaNobunaga (who coincidentally got his own manga by Tetsuo Hara after the end of ''Blue Sky''). This concept brings up the obvious question of whether Kasumi is the past-life incarnation of ''Hokuto no Ken'''s Kenshiro.
25th Dec '16 1:07:56 AM EDP
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* BeenThereShapedHistory - Kasumi Kenshiro has ''literally'' slapped-up Film/TheLastEmperor of China, not to mention clashing with the ''Kuomintang'', then ruling party of Nanjing's republican government and China's nominal seat of power.
** Considering who said Last Emperor is... doesn't sound that hard.
** And Kuomintang, seeing it as a matter of Chinese honor (and prestiege of the National Revolutionary Army in such a time of turmoil [[spoiler:as Kenshiro killed one of their generals- even though every Kuomintang official agrees that the said general had it coming]]) and not really an act of war, have refrained from just employing army troops to gun him down and insisted on defeating him fair-and-square with the best Chinese martial artist they can find. Therefore Chiang Kai-Shek and company got their [[http://www.mangareader.net/1057-39954-8/fist-of-the-blue-sky/chapter-105.html Generic Handsomeness treatment]].

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* BeenThereShapedHistory - Hokuto Shinken practitioners tend to do it.
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Kasumi Kenshiro has ''literally'' slapped-up Film/TheLastEmperor of China, not to mention clashing with the ''Kuomintang'', then ruling party of Nanjing's republican government and China's nominal seat of power.
** *** Considering who said Last Emperor is... doesn't sound that hard.
** *** And Kuomintang, seeing it as a matter of Chinese honor (and prestiege of the National Revolutionary Army in such a time of turmoil [[spoiler:as Kenshiro killed one of their generals- even though every Kuomintang official agrees that the said general had it coming]]) and not really an act of war, have refrained from just employing army troops to gun him down and insisted on defeating him fair-and-square with the best Chinese martial artist they can find. Therefore Chiang Kai-Shek and company got their [[http://www.mangareader.net/1057-39954-8/fist-of-the-blue-sky/chapter-105.html Generic Handsomeness treatment]].treatment]].
** Shuken, the founder of Hokuto Shinken, is strongly implied to be responsible for the fall of the Kushan Empire (the strongest component of the Yuezhi Confederation) by killing off the practitioners of Seito Gekken, their until then invincible martial art, shortly before a neo-Persian invasion overran their heartland.
20th Oct '16 2:55:08 PM Saurubiker
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** It should also be noted that most of the villains he forgiven such as Zhang Tai-Yan and Liu Zong Wu are practitioners of Hokuto styles, with several destined to later impact the world and have a facedown with Hokuto Shinken. Some even became their own respective style's successors. So its justified Kasumi forcgive them and overlook their terrible crimes because of the destiny and burdens Hokuto Shinken puts on its successor and because the traditions of the Hokuto styles rules that eventually Hokuto Shinken would have to be tested every new generation against the other Hokuto offsprings. In fact Liu Zong Wu is the successor of what late becomes Hokuto Ryūken, the very style Hokuto Shinken was destined to clash with in ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'''s timeline.

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** It should also be noted that most of the villains he forgiven such as Zhang Tai-Yan and Liu Zong Wu are practitioners of Hokuto styles, with several destined to later impact the world and have a facedown with Hokuto Shinken. Some even became their own respective style's successors. So its justified Kasumi forcgive forgive them and overlook their terrible crimes because of the destiny and burdens Hokuto Shinken puts on its successor and because the traditions of the Hokuto styles rules that eventually Hokuto Shinken would have to be tested every new generation against the other Hokuto offsprings. In fact Liu Zong Wu is the successor of what late becomes Hokuto Ryūken, the very style Hokuto Shinken was destined to clash with in ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'''s timeline.
20th Oct '16 2:48:06 PM Saurubiker
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** It should also be noted that most of the villains he forgiven such as Zhang Tai-Yanand and Liu Zong Wu are practitioners of Hokuto styles, with several destined to later impact the world and have a facedown with Hokuto Shinken. Some even became their own respective style's successors. So its justified Kasumi forcgive them and overlook their terrible crimes because of the destiny and burdens Hokuto Shinken puts on its successor and because the traditions of the Hokuto styles rules that eventually Hokuto Shinken would have to be tested every new generation against the other Hokuto offsprings. In fact Liu Zong Wu is the successor to Hokuto Ryuuken, the very style Hokuto Shinken was destined to clash with in ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'''s timeline.

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** It should also be noted that most of the villains he forgiven such as Zhang Tai-Yanand Tai-Yan and Liu Zong Wu are practitioners of Hokuto styles, with several destined to later impact the world and have a facedown with Hokuto Shinken. Some even became their own respective style's successors. So its justified Kasumi forcgive them and overlook their terrible crimes because of the destiny and burdens Hokuto Shinken puts on its successor and because the traditions of the Hokuto styles rules that eventually Hokuto Shinken would have to be tested every new generation against the other Hokuto offsprings. In fact Liu Zong Wu is the successor to of what late becomes Hokuto Ryuuken, Ryūken, the very style Hokuto Shinken was destined to clash with in ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'''s timeline.
15th Oct '16 10:15:06 PM Saurubiker
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* CutShort - The manga went down with the sinking ship of ''Comic Bunch''. And although it didn't exactly end on a cliffhanger, it didn't really dovetail nicely into ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' either; lots of questions were left unanswered. How did Ramon/Ryuken become successor? Did Yan Wang die (or become Koryu)? Who was the Old Taoist? The introduction of Jukei (the future Hokuto Ryuken successor) [[AbortedArc never led to anything interesting]] either.

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* CutShort - The manga went down with the sinking ship of ''Comic Bunch''. And although it didn't exactly end on a cliffhanger, it didn't really dovetail nicely into ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' either; lots of questions were left unanswered. How did Ramon/Ryuken become the [=63rd=] successor? Did Yan Wang die (or become Koryu)? Who was the Old Taoist? How did the Liu family branch of ''Hokuto Sankaken'' ended up splintering into ''Hokuto Ryūken''? Is the ''Kyoku Jūji Seiken'' style related to ''Nanto Seiken''? The introduction of Jukei (the subplot involving Jukei, the future Hokuto Ryuken successor) [[AbortedArc never led to anything interesting]] either.''Hokuto Ryūken'' successor, ended up being abandoned as well.



* ZeerustCanon - The birth of the infant Kenshiro at the opening prologue is established to be sometime during the 1970s, keeping in line with ''Hokuto no Ken'''s "[=199X=]" setting.

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* ZeerustCanon - The birth opening of the first chapter has the infant Kenshiro at the opening prologue is established being delivered to be Ryuken sometime during in the 1970s, [=1970's=], keeping in line with ''Hokuto no Ken'''s "[=199X=]" setting.
the [=199X=] setting of ''Fist of the North Star''.
10th Sep '16 7:11:01 PM dy031101
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* [[GenericCuteness Generic Handsomeness/Beauty]] - Kenshiro and his friends, ex-villains who renounced their evil ways, and even [[PunchClockVillain punch clock villains]] with [[FromACertainPointOfView reasonably good]] intentions are all portrayed as handsome or beautiful whereas fundamentally-dishonorable personalities are disturbingly intimidating at best and comically ugly at worst; but Tetsuo Hara is not for judging people's characters by their appearances- rather he is for judging people's appearances by their characters, with Zhāng Tài-Yán being perhaps the best example. The viewers know it's the same person with the same visual features, but Zhāng still managed to look significantly different before and after he made the transition into an [[TheAtoner Atoner]].

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* [[GenericCuteness Generic Handsomeness/Beauty]] - Tetsuo Hara here is essentially judging people's appearances by their characters: Kenshiro and his friends, ex-villains who [[TheAtoner renounced their evil ways, ways]], and even [[PunchClockVillain punch clock villains]] with [[FromACertainPointOfView reasonably good]] honorable]] intentions are all portrayed as handsome or beautiful whereas fundamentally-dishonorable personalities are disturbingly intimidating at best and comically ugly at worst; but Tetsuo Hara is not for judging people's characters by their appearances- rather he is for judging people's appearances by their characters, with Zhāng Tài-Yán being is perhaps the best example. The viewers know it's the same person with the same visual features, but There is no mistaking Zhāng for anyone else at any point of the manga, but he still managed to look significantly different before and after he made the transition into an [[TheAtoner Atoner]].became Kenshiro's ''Peng-You''.
19th Apr '16 12:45:38 PM erforce
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* CulturedBadass - Professor Kasumi can speak and read half a dozen languages, play the piano, dance, cook, grade your university thesis AND pop you head open with Hokuto Shinken. [[IndianaJones Henry Jones Junior]], eat your heart out.

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* CulturedBadass - Professor Kasumi can speak and read half a dozen languages, play the piano, dance, cook, grade your university thesis AND pop you head open with Hokuto Shinken. [[IndianaJones [[Franchise/IndianaJones Henry Jones Junior]], eat your heart out.
22nd Feb '16 3:27:24 AM Pyrite
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* If you've got a problem with Kenshiro's CatchPhrase... tell it to him! *asskicking ensues*

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* If CatchPhrase:
**"If
you've got a problem with [anything Kenshiro's CatchPhrase... involved in]... tell it to him! me!" *asskicking ensues*
4th Dec '15 1:46:31 PM Willbyr
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** It should also be noted that most of the villains he forgiven such as Zhang Tai-Yanand and Liu Zong Wu are practitioners of Hokuto styles, with several destined to later impact the world and have a facedown with Hokuto Shinken. Some even became their own respective style's successors. So its justified Kasumi forcgive them and overlook their terrible crimes because of the destiny and burdens Hokuto Shinken puts on its successor and because the traditions of the Hokuto styles rules that eventually Hokuto Shinken would have to be tested every new generation against the other Hokuto offsprings. In fact Liu Zong Wu is the successor to Hokuto Ryuuken, the very style Hokuto Shinken was destined to clash with in HokutoNoKen's timeline.

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** It should also be noted that most of the villains he forgiven such as Zhang Tai-Yanand and Liu Zong Wu are practitioners of Hokuto styles, with several destined to later impact the world and have a facedown with Hokuto Shinken. Some even became their own respective style's successors. So its justified Kasumi forcgive them and overlook their terrible crimes because of the destiny and burdens Hokuto Shinken puts on its successor and because the traditions of the Hokuto styles rules that eventually Hokuto Shinken would have to be tested every new generation against the other Hokuto offsprings. In fact Liu Zong Wu is the successor to Hokuto Ryuuken, the very style Hokuto Shinken was destined to clash with in HokutoNoKen's ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'''s timeline.
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