History Manga / FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya

28th Apr '16 11:20:18 PM anatanokukki
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** The Archer versus Saber fight in the same chapter. [[spoiler:Shirou manages to cut off one of Saber's arms, [[LightNovel/FateZero forcing him to fire Excalibur with one hand]] and allowing Shirou to sidestep it.]]

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** The Archer versus Saber fight in the same chapter. [[spoiler:Shirou manages to cut off one of Saber's arms, [[LightNovel/FateZero forcing him to fire Excalibur with one hand]] and allowing Shirou to sidestep it. In ''Literature/FateZero'', Saber needs both arms to properly use Excalibur.]]
28th Apr '16 11:00:19 PM anatanokukki
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** The identities of the Class Cards correspond to the Heroic Spirits in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.
** Illya's father and Shirou's adopted father is Kiritsugu Emiya, a Magus and the protagonist of ''LightNovel/FateZero''.

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** The identities of the Class Cards correspond to the Heroic Spirits in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.
''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', though some of their names are revealed throughout the series. Notably, the identity of the [[spoiler:Archer]] Card is a major plot point in ''3rei''.
** Illya's father and Shirou's adopted father is Kiritsugu Emiya, a Magus and the protagonist of ''LightNovel/FateZero''. [[spoiler:He's better known as title, the Magus Killer, in ''3rei''.]]
28th Apr '16 10:46:57 PM anatanokukki
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** Rin goes silent after hearing about [[spoiler:Sakura's]] fate in ''3rei''. When Luvia notices and asks her about it, she simply brushes it off as her thinking to herself. Anyone who's read ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' or ''LightNovel/FateZero'' would realize that [[spoiler:she was probably processing the fact that her younger sister was killed]].

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** Rin goes silent after hearing about [[spoiler:Sakura's]] fate in ''3rei''. When Luvia notices and asks her about it, she simply brushes it off as her thinking to herself. Anyone who's read ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' or ''LightNovel/FateZero'' would realize that [[spoiler:she was probably processing distressed about the fact that her younger sister was killed]].
28th Apr '16 5:27:17 AM Sayutsuki
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** Notably, while the anime mostly keeps its {{Panty Shot}}s to the [[HotterAndSexier fanservice-packed]] [[OriginalVideoAnimation OVAs]], the manga thoroughly averts {{Magic Skirt}}s throughout, especially after the introduction of ''3rei's'' [[ArtEvolution more detailed, cleaner artstyle]]. This also extends to situations where a PantyShot is just a result of [[RealityEnsues realistic skirt behavior]], and [[FanDisservice certainly NOT meant to be appealing to the reader]], such as [[spoiler:a terrified younger Miyu collapsing to her knees after witnessing her brother be seriously injured trying to protect her from her kidnapper]].
27th Apr '16 11:09:11 PM anatanokukki
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** Rin goes silent after hearing about [[spoiler:Sakura's]] fate in ''3rei''. When Luvia notices and asks her about it, she simply brushes it off as her thinking to herself. Anyone who's read ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' or ''LightNovel/FateZero'' would realize that [[spoiler:she was probably processing the fact that her younger sister was killed]].
26th Apr '16 8:34:02 PM anatanokukki
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** The Archer versus Saber fight in the same chapter. [[spoiler:Shirou manages to cut off one of Saber's arms, [[''LightNovel/FateZero'' forcing him to fire Excalibur with one hand]] and allowing Shirou to sidestep it.]]

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** The Archer versus Saber fight in the same chapter. [[spoiler:Shirou manages to cut off one of Saber's arms, [[''LightNovel/FateZero'' [[LightNovel/FateZero forcing him to fire Excalibur with one hand]] and allowing Shirou to sidestep it.]]
26th Apr '16 8:33:15 PM anatanokukki
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** Saber's appearance in ''3rei'' is based off of King Arthur's ''Anime/FatePrototype'' design.
** The Archer versus Saber fight in the same chapter. [[spoiler:Shirou manages to cut off one of Saber's arms, [[''LightNovel/FateZero'' forcing him to fire Excalibur with one hand]] and allowing Shirou to sidestep it.]]
13th Apr '16 9:26:58 PM anatanokukki
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* GenreShift: A slight one happens in ''2wei'', halting the GottaKillThemAll Card collection in favor of SliceOfLife and some exploration on Illya's backstory. Then the story takes a massive turn in ''3rei''.
** The [[DarkerAndEdgier tone is much darker]], the SliceOfLife is toned down significantly, and the Card collection plot disappears entirely. The MagicalGirl elements are also less focused on.
** When [[spoiler:Shirou]] tells his story, the Magical Girl elements disappear entirely as the story shifts into a parallel version ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.

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* GenreShift: A slight one happens in ''2wei'', halting the GottaKillThemAll Card collection in favor of SliceOfLife and some exploration on Illya's backstory. Then the story takes a massive turn in ''3rei''.
** The
''3rei'' where the [[DarkerAndEdgier tone is becomes much darker]], the SliceOfLife is toned down significantly, and the Card collection plot disappears entirely. The MagicalGirl elements are also less focused on.
retained, but only as a means to an end, rather than the focus of the story.
** When [[spoiler:Shirou]] tells his story, the Magical Girl MagicalGirl elements disappear entirely as the story shifts into a parallel version ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.
9th Apr '16 7:35:29 PM Arawn999
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* {{Fanservice}}: Some BarbieDollAnatomy and extremely magical skirts in the first season, and more in the second, of both the girls and Rin and Luviagelita.

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* {{Fanservice}}: {{Fanservice}}:
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Some BarbieDollAnatomy and extremely magical skirts in the first season, and more in the second, of both the girls and Rin and Luviagelita.



** The anime swings back and forth with this trope, especially compared to the manga. Specific scenes have more detail, like the {{Transformation Sequence}}s, the bath scenes or whenever Chloe is kissing someone, but other than those the FanService is typically toned down.

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** The anime swings back and forth with this trope, especially compared to the manga. Specific scenes have more detail, like the {{Transformation Sequence}}s, the bath scenes scenes, or whenever Chloe is kissing someone, but other than those the FanService is typically toned down.



* GottaCatchThemAll: The Class Cards...
** GottaKillThemAll: ... but they've been manifested as Heroic Spirits, meaning they'll have to be killed before they can be retrieved.

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* GottaCatchThemAll: The characters have to assemble the Class Cards...
** GottaKillThemAll: ... but they've
Cards.
* GottaKillThemAll: The Class Cards have
been manifested as Heroic Spirits, meaning they'll have to be killed before they can be retrieved.



* IntimateHealing: Chloe {{mana}}-drains Miyu by kissing her. She's not hurt, but the fatigue plus embarrassment causes her to collapse.
--> '''Chloe:''' Thanks for the treat!
** She then proceeds to do this to ''Illya's four friends and her teacher''.

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* IntimateHealing: IntimateHealing:
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Chloe {{mana}}-drains Miyu by kissing her. She's not hurt, but the fatigue plus embarrassment causes her to collapse.
--> ---> '''Chloe:''' Thanks for the treat!
** She then proceeds to do this to ''Illya's four friends and her teacher''.teacher'', but becomes particularly fixated on Illya herself.



* RomanticTwoGirlFriendship[=/=]SchoolgirlLesbians: As a MagicalGirl staple, this is obviously in effect:

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* RomanticTwoGirlFriendship[=/=]SchoolgirlLesbians: RomanticTwoGirlFriendship: As a MagicalGirl staple, this - along with a hefty dose of SchoolgirlLesbians - is obviously in effect:



** Season 2 adds Chloe, who is ''a lot'' more open about everything, making the relationship between Illya and Miyu a lot more complicated. The fact she randomly walks around kissing everyone she meets (which somehow are only girls) pretty much confirms this trope. After all, [[GirlOnGirlIsHot Girl On Girl is Cute]].

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** Season 2 adds Chloe, who is ''a lot'' more open about everything, making the relationship between Illya and Miyu a lot more complicated. The fact she randomly walks around kissing everyone she meets (which somehow are only girls) girls), and tries to force herself on both Illya and Miyu pretty much confirms this trope. After all, [[GirlOnGirlIsHot Girl On Girl is Cute]].



* TeethClenchedTeamwork: Rin and Luvia ''despise'' each other[[note]]WordOfGod says not ''really'', but try getting either of them to ''ever'' admit it[[/note]], but they are thoroughly competent when they actually manage to put aside their differences and work together. And so, they continue to bitch at each other [[CasualDangerDialogue while dealing]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome with it]].

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* TeethClenchedTeamwork: Rin and Luvia ''despise'' each other[[note]]WordOfGod other,[[note]]WordOfGod says not ''really'', but try getting either of them to ''ever'' admit it[[/note]], it[[/note]] but they are thoroughly competent when they actually manage to put aside their differences and work together. And so, they continue to bitch at each other [[CasualDangerDialogue while dealing]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome with it]].



* {{Tsundere}}: Alternate universe or not, Rin is still Rin. And to make things worse, Illya is almost completely incapable of bringing out her deredere side.

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* {{Tsundere}}: {{Tsundere}}:
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Alternate universe or not, Rin is still Rin. And to make things worse, Illya is almost completely incapable of bringing out her deredere side.



* {{Transformation Is a Free Action}}: Averted by Illya in Season 1 Episode 2. Her transformation seems to work in real-time as seen from Rin's perspective, including the music and light show.
--> '''Illya:''' I'm back.\\

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* {{Transformation Is a Free Action}}: TransformationIsAFreeAction:
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Averted by Illya in Season 1 Episode 2. Her transformation seems to work in real-time as seen from Rin's perspective, including the music and light show.
--> ---> '''Illya:''' I'm back.\\



* {{Transformation Sequence}}: Averted in the manga, where the magical girl transformations are more or less instantaneous. Hilariously played straight in the anime. [[LampshadeHanging Illya even acknowledges how embarrassing it is]].

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* {{Transformation Sequence}}: TransformationSequence: Averted in the manga, where the magical girl transformations are more or less instantaneous. Hilariously played straight in the anime. [[LampshadeHanging Illya even acknowledges how embarrassing it is]].



* UnprovokedPervertPayback: [[spoiler: Illya forcibly rips Shota!Gilgamesh out of the dark mass with her hand in a [[GroinAttack very awkward place]]. She immediately opens fire, which Gil lampshades noting that he should be the one screaming.]]

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* UnprovokedPervertPayback: [[spoiler: Illya forcibly rips Shota!Gilgamesh Kid Gilgamesh out of the dark mass with her hand in a [[GroinAttack very awkward place]]. She immediately opens fire, which Gil lampshades noting that he should be the one screaming.]]



* YuriFan: Corrupted!Mimi believes boys should love boys and girls should love girls.

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* YuriFan: Corrupted!Mimi Corrupted Mimi believes boys should love boys and girls should love girls.
9th Apr '16 7:24:18 PM Arawn999
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* DanceBattler: Archer!Illya, due to using [[spoiler:[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight EMIYA's]]]] fighting style.

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* DanceBattler: Archer!Illya, Archer Illya, due to using [[spoiler:[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight EMIYA's]]]] fighting style.
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