History Manga / FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya

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* ActionGirl: Illya, Miyu and Chloe are young girls who kick the butts of deadly mages and super-powered mythological figures.

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* ActionGirl: Illya, Miyu and Chloe The main characters are young girls who kick the butts of deadly mages and super-powered mythological figures.figures.



* BarbieDollAnatomy: All the girls' nipples and nether regions are entirely non-visible thanks to conveniently steamy baths.

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* BarbieDollAnatomy: All the girls' nipples and nether regions are entirely non-visible thanks to conveniently steamy baths.baths or light.



** Illya's "cousin"/"sister" Chloe also has no problem making out with Shirou against his will.

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** Illya's "cousin"/"sister" Chloe also has no problem making out with Shirou against his will. Or with Illya herself.



** [[spoiler: Illya with Caster install vs Beatrice Flowerchild and her Berserker install. Illya never stood a chance. Also a bit ironic because normally the TheBerserker class is [[TacticalRockPaperScissors WEAK]] against the Caster class because of their low magical resistance. Too bad for Illya, Beatrice installed a Berserker that [[NighInvulnerability BYPASSES]] [[NoSell THIS]] (THOR).]]

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** [[spoiler: Illya with Caster install vs vs. Beatrice Flowerchild and her Berserker install. Illya never stood a chance. Also a bit ironic because normally the TheBerserker class is [[TacticalRockPaperScissors WEAK]] against the Caster class because of their low magical resistance. Too bad for Illya, Beatrice installed a Berserker that [[NighInvulnerability BYPASSES]] [[NoSell THIS]] (THOR).]]



** [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha]] in the crossover also sets her off, though not to the same... extreme.

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** [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha]] in the crossover also sets her off, off (as she's a true mahou shoujo), though not to the same... extreme.



** Chloe [[spoiler:and Alternate Shirou]] like to fight with the twin blades [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Kanshou and Bakuya]].

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** Chloe [[spoiler:and Alternate Shirou]] Miyuverse!Shirou]] like to fight with the twin blades [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Kanshou and Bakuya]].



** Now Miyu has taken a turn at this and saved Illya from Bazett. [[CurbStompBattle Not for long, sadly.]]

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** Now Miyu also has taken a turn at this and saved Illya from Bazett. [[CurbStompBattle Not for long, sadly.]]



** Rin actually ends up expending most of her jewels, and is forced to take a job... As Luvia's maid.

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** Rin actually ends up expending most of her jewels, and is forced to take a job... As as Luvia's maid.



* EvilTwin: Chloe from the second series, a dark-skinned version of Illya with Archer's powers representing Illya's suppressed identity as a Mage / Grail conduit. At first Chloe tries to kill Illya in order to replace her, only to [[DefeatMeansFriendship move in as Illya's "cousin" after being defeated]] and develop a friendly SiblingRivalry with Illya instead.

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* EvilTwin: Chloe from the second series, 2wei, a dark-skinned version of Illya with Archer's powers representing Illya's suppressed identity as a Mage / Grail conduit. At first Chloe tries to kill Illya in order to replace her, only to [[DefeatMeansFriendship move in as Illya's "cousin" after being defeated]] and develop a friendly SiblingRivalry with Illya instead.



** Some BarbieDollAnatomy and extremely magical skirts in the first season, and more in the second, of both the girls and Rin and Luviagelita.

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** Some BarbieDollAnatomy and extremely magical skirts in the first season, and more in the second, of both the girls and Rin and Luviagelita.Luvia.



** Angelica, hands down.



** Furthermore, when Irisviel mentions the Holy Grail War to Chloe and Illya, only Miyu gives a surprised reaction. In contrast, Illya is properly confused and Chloe is indifferent to it. It takes until ''3rei'' for this to get a proper explanation.

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** Furthermore, when Irisviel mentions the Holy Grail War to Chloe and Illya, only Miyu gives a surprised reaction. In contrast, Illya is properly confused and Chloe is indifferent to it. It takes until ''3rei'' ''3rei!'' for this to get a proper explanation.



* GottaCatchThemAll: The characters have to assemble the Class Cards.

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* GottaCatchThemAll: The characters have to assemble the 7 Class Cards.



* HollywoodHealing: Justified. The Magical Girls have a HealingFactor. However, after her going into Zwei form against Gilgamesh, Ruby notes that Illya has severe internal damage and disallows her from using it again.
** As Illya notes, [[spoiler:Tanaka]] is spotless after her beatdown. This is a minor plot point.

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* HollywoodHealing: Justified. The Magical Girls magical girls have a HealingFactor. However, after her going into Zwei form against Gilgamesh, Ruby notes that Illya has severe internal damage and disallows her from using it again.
** As Illya notes, [[spoiler:Tanaka]] is spotless after her beatdown. This is a minor major plot point.
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** And now 2wei Chapter 12 brings us ''Epic Cake-baking''.
** Epic food judging too.
--->'''Shirou:''' ''I can't tell a lie about cooking!''

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** And now 2wei Chapter 12 brings us ''Epic Cake-baking''.
** Epic food judging too.
--->'''Shirou:''' ''I
too, courtesy of one Shirou Emiya.
--->''I
can't tell a lie about cooking!''



** [[spoiler:Miyu's world dying]] follows one of Nasu's older works, ''Literature/AngelNotes''.

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** [[spoiler:Miyu's world dying]] follows one of Nasu's older oldest works, ''Literature/AngelNotes''.''Literature/AngelNotes''. [[spoiler:The reason is "Grain", a byproduct of mana uses that harmful for living creatures.]]



** [[spoiler:Zachary's]] Saber install's helmet and armor are based on [[Anime/FatePrototype the male King Arthur's]] designs from supplementary materials with [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight the female King Arthur's]] Excalibur.
** Saber can't use Excalibur properly with only one hand. Naturally, [[spoiler:Zachary can't use Excalibur properly with only one arm]].

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** [[spoiler:Zachary's]] Saber install's helmet and armor are based on [[Anime/FatePrototype the male King Arthur's]] designs from supplementary materials materials, equipped with [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight the female King Arthur's]] Excalibur.
** In Fate/Zero, Saber can't use Excalibur properly with only one hand. Naturally, [[spoiler:Zachary can't use Excalibur properly with only one arm]].arm]].
** The[[spoiler:Berserker Succession Install that Illya uses on the battle against Beatrice are Gorgon. Miyu also Install Hassan of Serenity from Assassin card.]]



* SmartPeopleWearGlasses: OnceASeason for strategic meetings, a character will put the glasses on to lecture others in a manner similar to teacher and schoolkids. Rin in ''2wei'', Luvia in ''2wei Herz'', Kuro in ''3rei''.

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* SmartPeopleWearGlasses: OnceASeason for strategic meetings, a character will put the glasses on to lecture others in a manner similar to teacher and schoolkids. Rin in ''2wei'', Luvia in ''2wei Herz'', Kuro Chloe in ''3rei''.



* StormingTheCastle: The plot of 3rei. [[spoiler:Challenging the Masters of Miyu's AlternateDimension to save her. She's held in an actual castle there.]]

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* StormingTheCastle: The plot of 3rei. [[spoiler:Challenging [[spoiler:Shirou challenging the Masters of Miyu's AlternateDimension to save her. She's held in an actual castle there.]]



** Illya's classmates note with dismay that Illya is the ''only'' person Miyu is 'dere' for. "You unlocked the Miyu route!"
* {{Synchronization}}: Rin has a curse that will [[ChainedHeat kill one target of the magecraft if the other target dies]]. She eventually uses this to make Chloe / "Dark Illya" stop trying to kill Illya, And later on Bazett to force the battle mage into a draw.

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** Illya's classmates note with dismay that Illya is the ''only'' person Miyu is 'dere' for.
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"You unlocked the Miyu route!"
* {{Synchronization}}: Rin has a curse that will [[ChainedHeat kill one target of the magecraft if the other target dies]]. She eventually uses this to make Chloe / "Dark Illya" stop trying to kill Illya, And later on Bazett to force the battle mage into a draw. [[spoiler:Later, the two of them dispel it.]]



* TheThreeFacesOfEve: Chloe is unmistakingly the seductress, Miyu is a stoic, smart wife and Illya is a bright child.

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** [[spoiler:As usual, EMIYA will blare on the background where Shirou is showing his badassery.]]
* TheThreeFacesOfEve: Chloe is unmistakingly the seductress, Miyu is a stoic, smart wife wife, and Illya is a bright child.



** Alternate universe or not, Rin is still Rin. And to make things worse, Illya is almost completely incapable of bringing out her deredere side.

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** Alternate universe or not, Rin is still Rin. And to make things worse, Illya is almost completely incapable of bringing out her deredere side.''deredere'' side. [[spoiler:It's only reserved for Shirou.]]



---> '''Illya:''' I'm back.\\
'''Rin:''' Why did you bother hiding yourself?\\
'''Illya:''' Because it's embarrassing.

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---> '''Illya:''' I'm back.\\
'''Rin:'''
back.
--_>'''Rin:'''
Why did you bother hiding yourself?\\
'''Illya:'''
yourself?
--->'''Illya:'''
Because it's embarrassing.



* WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway: The 'Archer' Class Card, when equipped to one of the Kaleidosticks, gives the wielder a bow... or rather, it gives them ''only'' a bow, without providing any, y'know, ''arrows''. Illya is not amused to discover this. [[spoiler:Eventually subverted when she uses it by directly integrating it into her own body instead of into Ruby. [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower The result gives her complete access to Archer's projection magic, a ''much'' more worthwhile ability.]]]]

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* WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway: The 'Archer' "Archer" Class Card, when equipped to one of the Kaleidosticks, gives the wielder a bow... or rather, it gives them ''only'' a bow, without providing any, y'know, ''arrows''. Illya is not amused to discover this. [[spoiler:Eventually subverted when she uses it by directly integrating it into her own body instead of into Ruby. [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower The result gives her complete access to Archer's projection magic, a ''much'' more worthwhile ability.]]]]



* YankTheDogsChain: Three months after [[spoiler:Miyu is kidnapped]] and hitting his emotional low point, [[spoiler:Shirou]] gets confessed to by [[spoiler:Sakura]]. In the very next chapter, she gets killed trying to protect him from [[spoiler:Shinji]]. [[spoiler:Later gets manipulated by Julian to use against Shirou in case he attempts to take Miyu back or ruin his plans.]]

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* YankTheDogsChain: Three months after [[spoiler:Miyu is kidnapped]] and hitting his emotional low point, [[spoiler:Shirou]] gets confessed to by [[spoiler:Sakura]]. In the very next chapter, she gets killed trying to protect him from [[spoiler:Shinji]]. [[spoiler:Later gets [[spoiler:Shinji. He got manipulated by Julian to use against Shirou in case he attempts to take Miyu back or ruin his plans.]]
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* ACupAngst: The flat chested Sella freaks out in one chapter about her chest being so much smaller than the well-built Leysritt.

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* ACupAngst: The flat chested Sella freaks out in one chapter about her chest being so much smaller than the well-built Leysritt. Rin also has insecurities about her chest size than her well-endowed rival Luvia.



** Interestingly, at the end of ''2wei Herz'', instead of [[spoiler:everyone in the crater being attacked by Angelica and Beatrice immediately and pulled into Miyu's world, there is entire epilogue before it is revealed that Mt. Enzou and its parallel counterpart has been swapped, and ''then'' Angelica and Beatrice show up inside. This probably means that the ''3rei'' adaptation is going to be somewhat different at least in the beginning, as Angelica and Beatrice actually have to hunt down Miyu first.]]

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** Interestingly, at the end of ''2wei Herz'', instead of [[spoiler:everyone in the crater being attacked by Angelica and Beatrice immediately and pulled into Miyu's world, there is entire epilogue before it is revealed that Mt. Enzou and its parallel counterpart has been swapped, and ''then'' Angelica and Beatrice show up inside. This probably means that Then, the ''3rei'' adaptation is going to be somewhat different at least in the beginning, as Angelica and Beatrice actually have to hunt down Miyu first.]]
** The movie shows [[spoiler:what happened to Miyu after she's transferred into Illya's world, meeting Sapphire and Luvia, until before her first battle utilizing Class Card against Rider.
]]



** The identities of the Class Cards correspond to the Heroic Spirits in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', though some of their names are revealed throughout the series. Notably, the identity of the [[spoiler:Archer]] Card is a major plot point in ''3rei''.

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** The identities of the Class Cards correspond to the Heroic Spirits in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', though some of their names are revealed throughout the series. Notably, Of course, the identity of the [[spoiler:Archer]] Card is a major plot point in ''3rei''.



** The reason why Rin can heal [[spoiler:Miyu's brother]] using the pendant picked up by Bazett is because [[spoiler:the item is a Tohsaka heirloom that contains a massive amount of magical energy.]] It plays an important role in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.

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** The reason why Rin can heal [[spoiler:Miyu's brother]] using the pendant picked up by Bazett is because [[spoiler:the item is a Tohsaka heirloom that contains a massive amount of magical energy.]] It plays played an important role in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.



** [[spoiler:Shirou]] is more or less normal in his universe. In the third universe? [[spoiler:He's projecting swords like his ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' counterpart and fighting on-par with Angelica.]]
** [[spoiler:Sakura]] gets introduced as a part of a short flashback story. [[spoiler:In ''3rei'', she's the user of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' Berserker Install.]]

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** [[spoiler:Shirou]] is more or less normal in his universe. In the third universe? [[spoiler:He's [[spoiler:Miyu's world? He's projecting swords like his ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' counterpart and fighting on-par with Angelica.Angelica aka freakin' Gilgamesh.]]
** [[spoiler:Sakura]] gets introduced as a part of a short flashback story. [[spoiler:In ''3rei'', she's the user of the ''LightNovel/FateZero'' Berserker Install.Install, and has expanded backstory in Shirou's flashback.]]



** [[spoiler:Miyu]] escaped to the ''Prisma Illya'' world from a universe that borrows from ''Literature/AngelNotes'' and the ''Heaven's Feel'' route of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Participants of that universe eventually cross over to take their conduit back [[spoiler:in hopes of using her to save their dying world]]. It's revealed that the universe diverged in the Age of Gods, [[spoiler:when Pandora's Box was never opened]].

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** [[spoiler:Miyu]] escaped to the ''Prisma Illya'' world from a universe world that borrows the theme from ''Literature/AngelNotes'' and the ''Heaven's Feel'' route of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Participants of the Holy Grail War from that universe world eventually cross over to take their conduit back [[spoiler:in hopes of using her to save their dying world]]. It's revealed that the universe world diverged in the Age of Gods, [[spoiler:when Pandora's Box was never opened]].



-->'''Suzuko:''' Isn't this main character treatment?\\
'''Nanaki:''' This is pretty ballsy coming from a mere supporting player!

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-->'''Suzuko:''' Isn't this main character treatment?\\
'''Nanaki:'''
treatment?
-->'''Nanaki:'''
This is pretty ballsy coming from a mere supporting player!



** Illya's "cousin" / sister Chloe also has no problem making out with Shirou against his will.

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** Illya's "cousin" / sister "cousin"/"sister" Chloe also has no problem making out with Shirou against his will.



** Shirou also ends up getting beaten up in ''almost every chapter he appears''. And in Iri's family hierarchy chart, he's even below the maids.

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** Shirou also ends up getting beaten up in ''almost every chapter he appears''. And in Iri's family hierarchy chart, he's his position is even below the maids.



* CardsOfPower: The Class Cards can be included, granting the user a Noble Phantasm based on the individual Card, or installed, giving the user access to the abilities of the Heroic Spirit the card is based off of.

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* CardsOfPower: The Class Cards can be included, granting the user a Noble Phantasm based on the individual Card, or installed, giving the user access to the abilities and appearances of the Heroic Spirit the card is based off of.



* ChickMagnet: [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Shiro]] [[NiceGuy Freaking]] [[DemotedToExtra Emi]][[ObliviousToLove ya]]. Let's count his potential LoveInterest: [[BrotherSisterIncest 1) Illya, 2) Chloe,]] [[{{Tsundere}} 3) Rin Tohsaka]], [[{{Ojou}} 4) Luviagelita Edelfeldt]], [[SenpaiKohai 5) Sakura Matou]], [[SatelliteCharacter 6) Nanaki's Sister, Moriyama Nanami]], [[HoYay 7) Issei Ryuudou]], [[{{Meido}} 8) Sella]]....Better, dude doesn't have to try.

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* ChickMagnet: [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Shiro]] Shirou]] [[NiceGuy Freaking]] [[DemotedToExtra Emi]][[ObliviousToLove ya]]. Let's count his potential LoveInterest: [[BrotherSisterIncest 1) Illya, 2) Chloe,]] [[{{Tsundere}} 3) Rin Tohsaka]], [[{{Ojou}} 4) Luviagelita Edelfeldt]], [[SenpaiKohai 5) Sakura Matou]], [[SatelliteCharacter 6) Nanaki's Sister, Moriyama Nanami]], [[HoYay 7) Issei Ryuudou]], [[{{Meido}} 8) Sella]]....Better, Sella]]... better, dude doesn't have to try.try.
** [[spoiler:Miyuverse!Shirou is also good. He's the target of affection from Sakura, and has a FoeYay context with Angelica.]]



* {{Cliffhanger}}: At the end of ''2wei'': [[spoiler: Miyu is taken by soldiers who are fighting the Holy Grail War from her AlternateUniverse.]] ToBeContinued in 3rei...

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* {{Cliffhanger}}: At the end of ''2wei'': [[spoiler: Miyu is taken by soldiers Ainsworth's warriors who are fighting the Holy Grail War from her AlternateUniverse.]] ToBeContinued in 3rei...
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* BittersweetEnding: The ''Oath Under Snow'' movie ends with [[spoiler:Shirou successfully sending Miyu to Illya's world. But, Sakura is killed and Shirou is left behind in his dying world as a captive of the Ainsworths, accepting that he probably won't ever see ever his sister again.]]
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* NakedPeopleAreFunny: Illya gets this treatment twice.
** The first is when Ruby breaks into her house while she's taking a bath in the first episode.
** The second happens after she fails to listen to a warning from Chloe that any clothes materialized from her mana will disappear when a certain distance away from her. Cue the outfit Illya is wearing, made from said mana, to disappear, leaving her fully nude in front of a [[ColorFailure completely shocked]] Shirou.
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* {{Crossover}}: Has one with ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' known as 'Lyrical Nanoha x Prisma☆Illya'' or simply ''Nanoha x Fate''.

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* {{Crossover}}: Has one with ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' known as 'Lyrical Nanoha x Prisma☆Illya'' or simply [[IncrediblyLamePun ''Nanoha x Fate''.]]
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** Later, in two of the special episodes of Season 1, Ruby, [[ItAmusedMe out of amusement]], decides to change Illya's MagicalGirl costume into a more revealing catgirl outfit, or as she calls it "pervert girl". It happens again in one of the special episodes of Season 2, this time with Miyu and Chloe tricked into doing it by Ruby.
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** ''3rei'' shows, among other important plot points, [[spoiler: Erika being affiliated with the Ainsworths]], and [[spoiler: Illya during her time trapped in a stuffed bear.]]
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** The way Julian [[spoiler: shrinks Pandora's box during his escape]] brings to mind [[Film/{{Transformers}} The All Spark/ The Cube.]]

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** The way Julian [[spoiler: shrinks Pandora's box during his escape]] brings to mind [[Film/{{Transformers}} The All Spark/ The Cube.]]]], particularly when Bumblebee touches it, causing it to shrink and become easier to transport.
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** The way Julian [[spoiler: shrinks Pandora's box during his escape]] brings to mind [[Film/{{Transformers}} The All Spark/ The Cube.]]
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