History Manga / BlackButler

3rd Sep '17 1:47:23 PM FretfulKennel
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** Book of the Atlantic has the Karnstein Hospital, named for the Lady Karnstien from "Dracula's Guest" by Bram Stoker.



* Shoutout: Many. In the Book of Atlantic there is the Karnstein Hospital names adter the Lady Karnstien from "Dracula's Guest" by Bram Stoker. Montague Pruitt is names after John Pruitt a real life suspect for being Jack the Ripper....and many more tidbits from England in the Victorian era

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* Shoutout: Many. In the Book of Atlantic there is the Karnstein Hospital names adter the Lady Karnstien from "Dracula's Guest" by Bram Stoker. Montague Pruitt is names after John Pruitt a real life suspect for being Jack the Ripper....and many more tidbits from England in the Victorian era
3rd Sep '17 1:42:17 PM FretfulKennel
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* Shoutout: Many. In the Book of Atlantic there is the Karnstein Hospital names adter the Lady Karnstien from "Dracula's Guest" by Bram Stoker. Montague Pruitt is names after John Pruitt a real life suspect for being Jack the Ripper....and many more tidbits from England in the Victorian era
3rd Sep '17 1:35:46 PM FretfulKennel
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* FanDumb Although the live action movie was nothing to get exited about, a small number of fans were so off, they were creeped out by the sexual tension between Sebastian and Ciel when they were a grown up man and woman, and not creeped out by the sexual tension between them when one is a grown up man, and the other a straight underage boy.
25th Aug '17 6:16:17 PM nombretomado
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** The anime version is somehow worse in this regard. The [[TheNewRussia Russian Federation]] is shown, as is the Czech Republic [[note]]Admittedly, there seems to be no delineation between the Czech lands and Austria, which is accurate; but this was under Imperial-and-Royal Austria-Hungary, before the concept of a Czech Republic was around. Because it was imperial, not republican. [[/note]], a (!) united Ireland, not to mention Estonia and Latvia collectively being placed more southward than they ought to be. It's a hot mess that defies time-placement.

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** The anime version is somehow worse in this regard. The [[TheNewRussia [[UsefulNotes/TheNewRussia Russian Federation]] is shown, as is the Czech Republic [[note]]Admittedly, there seems to be no delineation between the Czech lands and Austria, which is accurate; but this was under Imperial-and-Royal Austria-Hungary, before the concept of a Czech Republic was around. Because it was imperial, not republican. [[/note]], a (!) united Ireland, not to mention Estonia and Latvia collectively being placed more southward than they ought to be. It's a hot mess that defies time-placement.
17th Aug '17 8:23:34 AM SeptimusHeap
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* {{Shotacon}}: [[spoiler:Baron Kelvin]] is revealed to have fallen in love and become a StalkerWithACrush towards Ciel when Ciel was ''seven''. Not to mention how he [[spoiler: kidnapped all those children for his amusement]]...
** Also, Nina Hopkins. She is the one behind the designs and clothes Ciel always wears and has said that she only has interest in '''[[LesYay girls]]'''... and boys under 15.
** The most famous example has to be all the interest Ciel gets not just from Sebastian, but various other adult men.
** It bears mentioning that the manga and anime themselves features a few too many loving pans of Ciel's prepubescent body for the comfort of some viewers,
** In the second series of the anime, the former Earl [[spoiler:Trancy]] abducted young boys, [[spoiler:(including Alois)]], as sex slaves.



** Baron Kelvin [[{{Shotacon}} for Ciel]].

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** Baron Kelvin [[{{Shotacon}} [[PaedoHunt for Ciel]].
27th Jul '17 5:15:45 PM fsdfsdfsd
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*** Your mileage may vary on how much the next chapter counts, since it confirms what most of the fandom guessed long ago and considered confirmed in chapter 129. Nonetheless, for everyone else it's still a WhamEpisode: [[spoiler: "Ciel Phantomhive" as we knew him has spent the past three years pulling off a one-way TwinSwap with his older brother, the real Ciel Phantomhive.]] And Tanaka seems to support Ciel more than he does [[spoiler: our demon-contracting protagonist]]...

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*** Your mileage may vary on how much the next chapter counts, since it confirms what most of the fandom guessed long ago and considered confirmed in chapter 129. Nonetheless, for everyone else it's still a WhamEpisode: [[spoiler: "Ciel Phantomhive" as we knew him has spent the past three years pulling off a one-way TwinSwap TwinSwitch with his older brother, the real Ciel Phantomhive.]] And Tanaka seems to support Ciel more than he does [[spoiler: our demon-contracting protagonist]]...
27th Jul '17 5:15:03 PM fsdfsdfsd
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*** Your mileage may vary on how much the next chapter counts, since it confirms what most of the fandom guessed long ago and considered confirmed in chapter 129. Nonetheless, for everyone else it's still a WhamEpisode: [[spoiler: "Ciel Phantomhive" as we knew him has been pulling off a FakeTwinGambit of his older brother, the real Ciel Phantomhive.]] And Tanaka seems to support Ciel more than he does [[spoiler: our demon-contracting protagonist]]...

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*** Your mileage may vary on how much the next chapter counts, since it confirms what most of the fandom guessed long ago and considered confirmed in chapter 129. Nonetheless, for everyone else it's still a WhamEpisode: [[spoiler: "Ciel Phantomhive" as we knew him has been spent the past three years pulling off a FakeTwinGambit of one-way TwinSwap with his older brother, the real Ciel Phantomhive.]] And Tanaka seems to support Ciel more than he does [[spoiler: our demon-contracting protagonist]]...
27th Jul '17 5:06:36 PM fsdfsdfsd
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*** Your mileage may vary on how much the next chapter counts, since it confirms what most of the fandom guessed long ago and considered confirmed in chapter 129. Nonetheless, for everyone else it's still a WhamEpisode: [[spoiler: "Ciel Phantomhive" as we knew him has been pulling off a FakeTwinGambit of his older brother, the real Ciel Phantomhive.]] And Tanaka seems to support Ciel more than he does [[spoiler: our demon-contracting protagonist]]...
24th Jul '17 4:34:14 PM hyliandeity
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** WeakerTwinSavesTheDay: [[spoiler: in Ch. 130 it was confirmed that the Two Ciels Theory is true, Our Ciel had a twin brother who was the real Ciel Phantomhive and the heir, whilst Our Ciel was the weaker "extra" sibling who has taken his brother's identity without consent. The trope is subverted quite a lot but the basic principle is the same.]]

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** * WeakerTwinSavesTheDay: [[spoiler: in In Ch. 130 it was confirmed that the Two Ciels Theory is true, true and Our Ciel had has a twin brother who was is the real Ciel Phantomhive and the heir, (the true heir) whilst Our Ciel was is the weaker "extra" sibling who has has, thinking him to be dead, taken his brother's identity without consent. The trope is subverted quite a lot but the basic principle is the same.]]
24th Jul '17 4:31:32 PM hyliandeity
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** WeakerTwinSavesTheDay: [[spoiler: in Ch. 130 it was confirmed that the Two Ciels Theory is true, Our Ciel had a twin brother who was the real Ciel Phantomhive and the heir, whilst Our Ciel was the weaker "extra" sibling who has taken his brother's identity without consent. The trope is subverted quite a lot but the basic principle is the same.]]
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