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9th May '17 4:24:37 AM MiinU
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' does this to many, many, many things ([[MindScrew it seems]]) such as [[HumongousMecha giant robots]], the [[AdultsAreUseless usefulness of anyone over 18]], the [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman nature of man]], the [[AGodAmI nature of the divine]] and... [[RageQuit you know what? Just watch the show.]]

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* %%* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' does this to many, many, many things ([[MindScrew it seems]]) such as [[HumongousMecha giant robots]], the [[AdultsAreUseless usefulness of anyone over 18]], the [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman nature of man]], the [[AGodAmI nature of the divine]] and... [[RageQuit you know what? Just watch the show.]]
9th May '17 4:20:47 AM MiinU
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* ''Manga/UchiNoMusumeNiTeODasuNa'' initially [[AvertedTrope averts]] the IBangedYourMom trope, by having [[TheDragon Point Blank]] hide it from Clara, rather than use it as an insult. But by the ''"Amazing Eighth Wonder Vol.1"'', he's revealed to be [[spoiler: her missing father]] when he reunites with Athena, after years of separation[[note]]via time travel. Point Blank is 17, making him the same age as Clara. He then spends 20 years trapped outside of space-time. By the time he escapes, only two years have passed; making him 19 (physically) despite being 37 (chronologically)[[/note]]. So they spend every night [[CoitusEnsues making up for lost time.]] Despite their efforts to keep it down, Clara inhereted her mother's super senses, so [[RightThroughTheWall she can stil hear them]] -- and [[GreenEyedMonster she doesn't take it well.]]

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* ''Manga/UchiNoMusumeNiTeODasuNa'' initially [[AvertedTrope averts]] the IBangedYourMom trope, by having [[TheDragon the antagonist]], Point Blank]] Blank, hide it from Clara, rather than use it as an insult. But by the ''"Amazing Eighth Wonder Vol.1"'', he's revealed to be [[spoiler: her missing father]] when he reunites with Athena, after years of separation[[note]]via her mother, Athena[[note]]via time travel. Point Blank is 17, making him the same age as Clara. He then spends 20 years trapped outside of space-time. By the time he escapes, only two years have passed; making him 19 (physically) despite being 37 (chronologically)[[/note]]. So they spend every night [[CoitusEnsues making up for lost time.]] Despite their efforts to keep it down, Clara inhereted her mother's Athena's super senses, so [[RightThroughTheWall she can stil hear them]] -- and [[GreenEyedMonster she doesn't take it well.]]
9th May '17 4:14:25 AM MiinU
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*''Manga/UchiNoMusumeNiTeODasuNa'' initially [[AvertedTrope averts]] the IBangedYourMom trope, by having [[TheDragon Point Blank]] hide it from Clara, rather than use it as an insult. But by the ''"Amazing Eighth Wonder Vol.1"'', he's revealed to be [[spoiler: her missing father]] when he reunites with Athena, after years of separation[[note]]via time travel. Point Blank is 17, making him the same age as Clara. He then spends 20 years trapped outside of space-time. By the time he escapes, only two years have passed; making him 19 (physically) despite being 37 (chronologically)[[/note]]. So they spend every night [[CoitusEnsues making up for lost time.]] Despite their efforts to keep it down, Clara inhereted her mother's super senses, so [[RightThroughTheWall she can stil hear them]] -- and [[GreenEyedMonster she doesn't take it well.]]
15th Apr '17 6:24:27 PM nombretomado
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* SoundHorizon's ''Chronicle 2nd Album'' has entirely too much fun with both YouCantFightFate and ScrewDestiny. For example, the story of Arbelge successfully [[ScrewDestiny giving Destiny the finger]] and subverting the Black Chronicle... which you are reading from the Black Chronicle.

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* SoundHorizon's Music/SoundHorizon's ''Chronicle 2nd Album'' has entirely too much fun with both YouCantFightFate and ScrewDestiny. For example, the story of Arbelge successfully [[ScrewDestiny giving Destiny the finger]] and subverting the Black Chronicle... which you are reading from the Black Chronicle.
13th Apr '17 6:22:38 AM erforce
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* TheBadGuyWins becomes rather a ZigZaggingTrope in MurderOnTheOrientExpress. In the traditional way of viewing murder mysteries the "bad guy" is the committer or committers of the in-film murder, but the murder victim was himself a horrendous monster [[spoiler: and mafioso who was killed only because he escaped justice by due process of law for his crimes, and a large part of the story involves the central dilemma caused by Poirot being after the murderer/murderers of a man who so obviously had it coming to him and was clearly the worst guy amongst all the characters of the story ethically. When Poirot figures out whodunnit, he lets the guilty parties literally get away with murder, allowing them to win in the sense of escaping justice even though they've lost in the sense of failing to succeed at their plot of deceiving him -- although in a sense they won to begin with just by succeeding at their plot to murder Ratchett at all, which is what they were there for in the first place.]] If you go by defining the bad guy literally as the most morally degraded character in the story, then Ratchett alternately loses in the sense of ending up a murder victim himself, wins in the sense that his murderer(s) cannot murder him without getting caught, and he loses again in that the murderer(s) get(s) away with it anyhow. And had won long ago at escaping the law itself in the first place to begin with, at which his success technically remains permanent.

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* TheBadGuyWins becomes rather a ZigZaggingTrope in MurderOnTheOrientExpress.''Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress1974''. In the traditional way of viewing murder mysteries the "bad guy" is the committer or committers of the in-film murder, but the murder victim was himself a horrendous monster [[spoiler: and mafioso who was killed only because he escaped justice by due process of law for his crimes, and a large part of the story involves the central dilemma caused by Poirot being after the murderer/murderers of a man who so obviously had it coming to him and was clearly the worst guy amongst all the characters of the story ethically. When Poirot figures out whodunnit, he lets the guilty parties literally get away with murder, allowing them to win in the sense of escaping justice even though they've lost in the sense of failing to succeed at their plot of deceiving him -- although in a sense they won to begin with just by succeeding at their plot to murder Ratchett at all, which is what they were there for in the first place.]] If you go by defining the bad guy literally as the most morally degraded character in the story, then Ratchett alternately loses in the sense of ending up a murder victim himself, wins in the sense that his murderer(s) cannot murder him without getting caught, and he loses again in that the murderer(s) get(s) away with it anyhow. And had won long ago at escaping the law itself in the first place to begin with, at which his success technically remains permanent.
20th Mar '17 8:14:47 AM Gosicrystal
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* ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain'' somehow manages to do this with both YouCantFightFate and ScrewDestiny.
** As does the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise, even when it ''probably'' shouldn't...

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* %%* ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain'' somehow manages to do this with both YouCantFightFate and ScrewDestiny.
** As does the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise, even when it ''probably'' shouldn't...%%* ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}''.



* ''VideoGame/FatPrincess'' does this to SaveThePrincess.
* KnightInShiningArmour trope in ''VideoGame/{{Braid}}''.

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* %%* ''VideoGame/FatPrincess'' does this to SaveThePrincess.
* %%* KnightInShiningArmour trope in ''VideoGame/{{Braid}}''.
18th Mar '17 6:12:07 PM ginsengaddict
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13th Mar '17 9:02:49 AM Allronix
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* ''VideoGame/KingsQuestIV'' and ''VideoGame/KingsQuestVII'' do this for StandardHeroReward. Subverted, gender inverted, played straight, subverted another two times, gender flipped again... in the end, Edgar and Rosella just agree to date.

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* ''VideoGame/KingsQuestIV'' and ''VideoGame/KingsQuestVII'' do this for StandardHeroReward. Subverted, gender inverted, played straight, subverted another two times, gender flipped again... in the end, Edgar and Rosella just agree to date.a proper courtship. The VideoGame/TheSilverLining FanSequel and the Telltale Games sequel establish TheyDo.
25th Feb '17 11:40:09 AM nombretomado
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* ''AceCombat'' zig zags around SoLastSeason with its starter planes; some games have better starter planes than later ones, but the current latest one, ''VideoGame/AceCombat6FiresOfLiberation'' also has a better starter plane that some games before it. See the trope page for the full rundown.

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* ''AceCombat'' ''VideoGame/AceCombat'' zig zags around SoLastSeason with its starter planes; some games have better starter planes than later ones, but the current latest one, ''VideoGame/AceCombat6FiresOfLiberation'' also has a better starter plane that some games before it. See the trope page for the full rundown.
18th Jan '17 10:48:13 PM Scorpio3002
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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty's'' treatment of RememberTheNewGuy falls into this territory. The season 2 episode [[Recap/RickAndMortyS2E4TotalRickall Total Rickall]] [[JustifiedTrope Justifies]] it with the introduction of telepathic parasites who implant false memories of new people into the host's brains, causing scores of new characters to pop up only for the family to treat them as old friends. Eventually, Morty figures out how to tell the real memories from the fake ones, and he and his family wipe out the parasites. Unfortunately for poor Mr Poopybutthole, he turned out to be a DoubleSubversion by playing the trope completely straight: he wasn't a parasite, but a new character whom the rest of the cast had apparently known the whole time.
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