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28th May '16 11:46:56 AM Gamermaster
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** Sequel series ''Manga/UQHolder'' delves into this a little bit when her adopted son and sire Touta meets a time displaced version of her and notes that she needs to drink blood when he never had to (he's also perfectly fine with sunlight from the moment he's turned but crosses still hurt him).
12th May '16 10:27:09 AM DarkWillow
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There are many tropes associated with vampires, few authors use all of them, and they all have opinions about which ones to use. For example, in one author's work the idea that vampires can fly might be perfectly reasonable, but the idea that they fear moving water is just silly. In another author's work it might be reversed. These two authors feel it is necessary to point out why their choice was the right one and the other guy's the wrong one. This also leads to the other vampires being mocked for both ''having'' specific weaknesses, especially the traditional ones (eg. what kind of a vampire is it that can't even withstand sunlight?), and for ''lacking'' them (what kind of a vampire walks outside in broad daylight?)

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There are many tropes associated with vampires, few authors use all of them, and they all have opinions about which ones to use. For example, in one author's work the idea that vampires can fly might be perfectly reasonable, but the idea that they fear moving water is just silly. In another author's work it might be reversed. These two authors feel it is necessary to point out why their choice was the right one and the other guy's the wrong one. This also leads to the other vampires being mocked for both ''having'' specific weaknesses, especially the traditional ones (eg. what kind of a vampire is it that can't even withstand sunlight?), and for ''lacking'' them (what kind of a vampire walks outside in broad daylight?)
daylight?) In some cases, vampiric weaknesses are mocked, changed or removed despite their inclusion 'as standard' actually being more logical (eg. some works insist crosses are all about Faith - of the wielder or the vampire - despite the symbol actually representing fire and being far, far older than any religious connection would suggest).
28th Mar '16 6:24:04 PM Prfnoff
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This is used in vampire comedies, or at least for adding some fun in a serious vampire tale. Show the vamp [[VampiresHateGarlic garlic]]? He takes a bite. Hold out holy water? He drinks it down. Cross? "[[Film/TheFearlessVampireKillers Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire!]]"

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This is used in vampire comedies, or at least for adding some fun in a serious vampire tale. Show the vamp [[VampiresHateGarlic garlic]]? He takes a bite. Hold out [[HolyBurnsEvil holy water? water]]? He drinks it down. Cross? "[[Film/TheFearlessVampireKillers Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire!]]"
28th Mar '16 6:18:59 PM Prfnoff
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* ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'''s vampires are immune to garlic and holy water, and wooden stakes only immobilize them. Sunlight basically poisons them over time.

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* ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'''s vampires are immune to garlic (in the first episode, Mick mentions that "it tastes good on a pizza") and holy water, and wooden stakes only immobilize them. Sunlight basically poisons them over time.
28th Mar '16 6:04:04 PM Prfnoff
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This is used in vampire comedies, or at least for adding some fun in a serious vampire tale. Show the vamp garlic? He takes a bite. Hold out holy water? He drinks it down. Cross? "[[Film/TheFearlessVampireKillers Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire!]]"

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This is used in vampire comedies, or at least for adding some fun in a serious vampire tale. Show the vamp garlic? [[VampiresHateGarlic garlic]]? He takes a bite. Hold out holy water? He drinks it down. Cross? "[[Film/TheFearlessVampireKillers Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire!]]"
24th Mar '16 5:17:18 AM SirPellucidar
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* The Pillar Men from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure actually created vampires to serve as their food source, so naturally they look down upon them, despite being pseudo-vampires themselves.



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29th Feb '16 10:58:00 PM Yozzy
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* Alucard from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'', though most other vampires in the series crumble to dust when shot through the heart with [[AbnormalAmmo an explosive silver bullet]].
** This is even {{lampshade|Hanging}}d after Anderson seems to slay him.

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* {{Alucard}} from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' delivers the page quote to [[EvilKnockoff Luke Valentine]]. The context: Luke, an artificial vampire, challenges Alucard from ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'', though most other vampires to a one-on-one duel, boasting that he was engineered to be Alucard's superior. While Luke has a vampire's physical powers (SuperStrength, being resilient enough to shrug off bullets that don't incapacitate him, including one head shot, and uniquely [[FlashStep having super speed and reflexes]]), he lacks a true vampire's...''weirder'' powers. When Alucard thought he was in for [[BloodKnight the series crumble to dust when shot through the heart with [[AbnormalAmmo pleasure of an explosive silver bullet]].
actual fight]], he showed off ''a fraction'' of his abilities, and Luke was sent running in terror. When Alucard realized Luke was nothing more than an overconfident rookie, he [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech dressed him down]] and killed Luke ''extra'' gruesomely for wasting his time.
** This is even {{lampshade|Hanging}}d after Anderson [[EmpoweredBadassNormal Anderson]] seems to slay him.



*** Alucard is a special vamp on MULTIPLE levels, though. He makes every vampire -- in his own series and in every other, with the possible exception of [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade Caine]] -- look absolutely pathetic by comparison. [[spoiler: Especially given he's got power levels more akin to a CosmicHorrorStory villain than to those of a vampire.]]
** In one scene, Alucard casually demonstrates his superiority to all other vampires for Pip by [[IDoNotDrinkWine sipping wine]], sitting in [[DaywalkingVampire direct sunlight]], and traveling (by plane) [[CannotCrossRunningWater over a moving body of water]] in the most pimptastic manner he can manage. Seras, on the other hand, has to stick to the coffin for the trip, much to her displeasure.
--->'''Pip:''' A vampire drinking wine on a private jet, flying to Rio de Janeiro in broad daylight? The stories got everything wrong.
** Alucard's character almost seems designed around this concept. His main battle strategy is to let his opponent tear him to shreds, then when they think they've won, he regenerates [[ShowyInvincibleHero just to show off how much better than them he is]] before [[CurbStompBattle curb stomping them]].

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*** Alucard ** This is a special vamp on MULTIPLE levels, though. He makes every vampire -- in his own series similar story throughout Hellsing, and in every other, with the possible exception of [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade Caine]] -- look absolutely pathetic by comparison. [[spoiler: Especially given he's got power levels more akin to a CosmicHorrorStory villain than to those of a vampire.]]
** In one scene, Alucard casually demonstrates his superiority to all other vampires for Pip by [[IDoNotDrinkWine sipping wine]], sitting in [[DaywalkingVampire direct sunlight]], and traveling (by plane) [[CannotCrossRunningWater over a moving body of water]] in the most pimptastic manner he can manage. Seras, on the other hand, has to stick to the coffin for the trip, much to her displeasure.
--->'''Pip:''' A vampire drinking wine on a private jet, flying to Rio de Janeiro in broad daylight? The stories got everything wrong.
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Alucard's character almost seems designed around oozes this concept.trope. His main battle strategy is to let his opponent tear him to shreds, then when they think they've won, he regenerates [[ShowyInvincibleHero just to show off how much better than them he is]] before [[CurbStompBattle curb stomping them]]. Most other vampires in the series crumble to dust when shot through the heart with [[AbnormalAmmo an explosive silver bullet]]. Much younger vampires and [[ThoseWackyNazis Millenium's]] army of [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot artificial vampire nazi soldiers]] don't even compare to Alucard, who is incredibly powerful and practically has [[ComboPlatterPowers a grab bag of superpowers]], and later his "protege" Seras Victoria; although Millenium's individual officers do have some unique and powerful abilities.
*** In one scene, Alucard casually demonstrates his superiority to all other vampires for [[SixthRanger Pip]] by [[IDoNotDrinkWine sipping wine]], sitting in [[DaywalkingVampire direct sunlight]], and traveling (by plane) [[CannotCrossRunningWater over a moving body of water]] in the most pimptastic manner he can manage. Seras, on the other hand, has to stick to the coffin for the trip, much to her displeasure.\\\
Alucard is a special vamp on MULTIPLE levels, though. He makes every vampire -- in his own series and in every other, with the possible exception of [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade Caine]] -- look absolutely pathetic by comparison. [[spoiler: Especially given he's reached a point where he's less vampire, and more EldritchAbomination.]]
29th Feb '16 5:53:37 AM Vir
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* In a weird case of [[InvertedTrope '''Our''' Vampires Suck]], ''VideoGame/DungeonsOfDredmor'' claims that the [[Literature/{{Twilight}} 'Sparkly']] skill that [[MonsterAdventurers vampire heroes]] can obtain drains life from your enemies because of how stupid it is.

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* In a weird case of '''[[InvertedTrope Our]]''' [[InvertedTrope '''Our''' Vampires Suck]], ''VideoGame/DungeonsOfDredmor'' claims that the [[Literature/{{Twilight}} 'Sparkly']] skill that [[MonsterAdventurers vampire heroes]] can obtain drains life from your enemies because of how stupid it is.
27th Feb '16 5:30:27 PM dasuberkaiser
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* A somewhat different example: [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193546 This]] ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' card is likely a subtle TakeThat at the romanticization of vampires in general.
** Another in game example; Sorin Markov, a more archetypal Draculan vampire, [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=189629 takes a jab]] at what he sees of the [[NobleSavage savage]] [[BadassNative native]] vampire tribes of Zendikar.
*** But even he laments at what the vampires of his own bloodline [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=240196 have become]] in his absence from Innistrad.
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* A somewhat different example: [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193546 This]] ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' card is likely a subtle TakeThat at the romanticization of vampires in general.
** Another in game example; Sorin Markov, a more archetypal Draculan vampire, [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=189629 takes a jab]] at what he sees of the [[NobleSavage savage]] [[BadassNative native]] vampire tribes of Zendikar.
*** But even he laments at what the vampires of his own bloodline [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=240196 have become]] in his absence from Innistrad.
17th Feb '16 10:46:41 AM Sharlee
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*** Note that Thomas, a White Court vampire, wore a ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'' T-shirt to a meeting with a Red Court vampire who shares more "traditional" vampire traits than he does himself. Knowing Thomas, he was both playing with this trope ''and'' trolling the Red vampire.
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