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31st May '17 7:12:30 PM nombretomado
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* Gulcasa in ''VideoGame/YggdraUnion'' and ''VideoGame/BlazeUnion'', though rather than having the standard prideful {{Ubermensch}} personality he's a MessianicArchetype driven by [[BrokenHero PTSD]]. He becomes emperor of Bronquia at age 17, deems continental conquest to be the most efficient way to destroy societal prejudice, and [[CuttingOffTheBranches in the canon end of the games]] dies at age 20 after ruining his health and losing all of his loved ones to his own wars. In ''YggdraUnison'', where it's possible for him to succeed, he settles down as a benevolent world leader [[TheExtremistWasRight after making his ideals reality]].

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* Gulcasa in ''VideoGame/YggdraUnion'' and ''VideoGame/BlazeUnion'', though rather than having the standard prideful {{Ubermensch}} personality he's a MessianicArchetype driven by [[BrokenHero PTSD]]. He becomes emperor of Bronquia at age 17, deems continental conquest to be the most efficient way to destroy societal prejudice, and [[CuttingOffTheBranches in the canon end of the games]] dies at age 20 after ruining his health and losing all of his loved ones to his own wars. In ''YggdraUnison'', ''VideoGame/YggdraUnison'', where it's possible for him to succeed, he settles down as a benevolent world leader [[TheExtremistWasRight after making his ideals reality]].
8th May '17 9:50:17 PM StrixObscuro
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* Hunter Rose aka ''ComicBook/{{Grendel}}'', genius writer by day and hitman by night, takes control of a criminal empire spanning from Atlanta to Montreal with NYC at the centre.

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* Hunter Rose aka ''ComicBook/{{Grendel}}'', genius writer by day and hitman by night, takes control of a criminal empire spanning from Atlanta to Montreal with NYC at the centre.center.
* In ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'', [[spoiler:Alex Wilder]]'s plan is to play [[spoiler:his]] team and the Pride against each other so that the Pride doesn't fall apart from infighting, thus allowing them to complete their plan to remake the entire world into a supposed paradise. And [[spoiler:he]] nearly succeeds at it, and [[spoiler:he]]'s not even old enough to drive.



* Michael Corleone in ''Film/TheGodfather''
* Not that young but Tony Montana from ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}'' climbs to the top of the drug dealing community almost as fast. [[spoiler: He falls.]]

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* Michael Corleone in ''Film/TheGodfather''
''Film/TheGodfather'' starts off as a young war hero reluctantly pushed into the mafia world by his family, but discovers that he has an aptitude for the business and becomes a Don by age 35.
* Not that young but Tony Montana from ''Film/{{Scarface 1983}}'' climbs to the top of the drug dealing community almost as fast. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He falls.]]
8th May '17 9:24:45 PM karstovich2
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* Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II earned the title Fatih ('The Conqueror' in Turkish) at age 19 by taking the ancient Byzantine capital of Constantinople, which had resisted several previous sieges in spite constant decay of the Byzantine Empire's power over the centuries and increasing number and potency of neighbouring threats. Given that he inherited most of the Balkans and about half of Anatolia, while Constantinople was a half-abandoned LandOfOneCity at this point, this was not objectively ''[[CurbStompBattle quite]]'' as impressive as it sounds--although Mehmed did go on to do a bunch of conquering after that (completing the Ottoman conquest of Anatolia and taking even more of the Balkans), so the trope still applies.

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* Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II earned the title Fatih ('The Conqueror' in Turkish) at age 19 by taking the ancient Byzantine capital of Constantinople, which had resisted several previous sieges in spite constant decay of the Byzantine Empire's power over the centuries and increasing number and potency of neighbouring threats. Given that he inherited most of the Balkans and about half of Anatolia, while Constantinople was a half-abandoned LandOfOneCity at this point, this was not objectively ''[[CurbStompBattle quite]]'' as impressive as it sounds--although sounds. That said, Mehmed did go on to do a bunch of conquering after that (completing the Ottoman conquest of Anatolia and taking even more of the Balkans), much of it before he turned 30, so the trope still applies.
8th May '17 9:21:16 PM karstovich2
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* Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II earned the title Fatih ('The Conqueror' in Turkish) at age 19 by taking the ancient Byzantine capital of Constantinople, which had resisted several previous sieges in spite constant decay of the Byzantine Empire's power over the centuries and increasing number and potency of neighbouring threats. Given that he inherited most of the Balkans and about half of Anatolia, while Constantinople was a half abandoned LandOfOneCity at this point, this was not objectively ''[[CurbStompBattle quite]]'' as impressive as it sounds.

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* Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II earned the title Fatih ('The Conqueror' in Turkish) at age 19 by taking the ancient Byzantine capital of Constantinople, which had resisted several previous sieges in spite constant decay of the Byzantine Empire's power over the centuries and increasing number and potency of neighbouring threats. Given that he inherited most of the Balkans and about half of Anatolia, while Constantinople was a half abandoned half-abandoned LandOfOneCity at this point, this was not objectively ''[[CurbStompBattle quite]]'' as impressive as it sounds.sounds--although Mehmed did go on to do a bunch of conquering after that (completing the Ottoman conquest of Anatolia and taking even more of the Balkans), so the trope still applies.
16th Apr '17 7:02:28 PM nombretomado
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* The ''backstory'' of Mackenzie Calhoun from ''StarTrekNewFrontier''.

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* The ''backstory'' of Mackenzie Calhoun from ''StarTrekNewFrontier''.''Literature/StarTrekNewFrontier''.
5th Apr '17 7:43:52 AM LentilSandEater
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* Darth Revan in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''. Revan was a Jedi prodigy whose peerless strategy won the Mandalorian War for the Republic, and nearly won the Jedi Civil War [[FaceHeelTurn for the Sith]]. S/he built up quite the EvilEmpire before being betrayed in the traditional Sith manner, and is respected and/or feared throughout the Galaxy. All of this [[spoiler: judging by his/her unmasked appearance in the game]] before about twenty-five to thirty.
** The fact that Revan was [[spoiler: young enough to be accepted into the Academy post-mind-wipe]] supports that he/she is fairly young, too. While the Sith do have something like a PhilosophersStone, even his/her non-Jedi contemporaries speaking of past campaigns generally fall into the same age category.

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* Darth Revan in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''. Revan was a Jedi prodigy whose peerless strategy won the Mandalorian War for the Republic, and nearly won the Jedi Civil War [[FaceHeelTurn for the Sith]]. S/he built up quite the EvilEmpire before being betrayed in the traditional Sith manner, and is respected and/or feared throughout the Galaxy. All of this [[spoiler: judging by his/her unmasked appearance in the game]] before about twenty-five to thirty.
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thirty. The fact that Revan was [[spoiler: young enough to be accepted into the Academy post-mind-wipe]] supports that he/she is fairly young, too. While the Sith do have something like a PhilosophersStone, even his/her non-Jedi contemporaries speaking of past campaigns generally fall into the same age category.
4th Apr '17 11:12:47 AM gb00393
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** Robb Stark, the "Young Wolf". Varys notes to Eddard that boys like him have become conquerors before.

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** Robb Stark, the "Young Wolf". Neither Tywin Lannister, nor his father Eddard think he is up to the task but Varys notes to Eddard that boys like him have become conquerors before.before. He quickly proves himself one of the most skilled battle commanders in the series.
7th Mar '17 1:38:07 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Robb Stark, the "Young Wolf". Varys notes to Eddard that boys like him have become conquerors before.
** Theon Greyjoy wishes he were this, but he falls flat.
** Daenerys intends to conquer Westeros, which she regards as her birthright. She has her start by conquering Slavers Bay.
3rd Jan '17 2:15:24 AM BURGINABC
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In addition to differing from the typical hero in vision - or ends - they will also differ in the means used. In contrast to the IdiotHero, the Young Conqueror will have a strong dose of IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, which may cause them to be [[InsufferableGenius quite prideful]]. And instead of a typical hero who reacts to the EvilPlan of the BigBad and fights with brawn, they are a GuileHero who uses brains to come up with their own schemes, often being either TheChessmaster, ManipulativeBastard, MagnificentBastard, MaryTzu, or all of the above, capable of cooking up ThePlan just as good as or possibly ''better'' than your standard BigBad. As such, they are often subversions or ''inversions'' of TheVillainMakesThePlot, which is one of the main reasons why these characters are so unique and interesting.

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In addition to differing from the typical hero in vision - or ends - they will also differ in the means used. In contrast to the IdiotHero, the Young Conqueror will have a strong dose of IntelligenceEqualsIsolation, which may cause them to be [[InsufferableGenius quite prideful]]. And instead of a typical hero who reacts to the EvilPlan of the BigBad and fights with brawn, they are a GuileHero who uses brains to come up with their own schemes, often being either TheChessmaster, ManipulativeBastard, MagnificentBastard, MaryTzu, or all of the above, capable of cooking up ThePlan just as good as or possibly ''better'' than your standard BigBad. As such, they are often subversions or ''inversions'' of TheVillainMakesThePlot, which is one of the main reasons why these characters are so unique and interesting.
30th Oct '16 10:09:07 PM MelancholicMonkey
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* Lincoln Clay, the protagonist of ''VideoGame/MafiaIII''. Lincoln is a Vietnam veteran who uses his Special Forces training to destroy a criminal empire and take over an entire city at the age of 23. He has three fairly powerful lieutenants backing him up, but he does most of the work himself.
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