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12th Dec '17 2:35:52 AM Psychadelico
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* There's an old story with a non-verbal variation. A hotel's guest had valuables stolen by another guest at the hotel. They call in a wise man who hands out sticks, each of the same length, to the guests. He says that they're magic, and the stick given to the thief will grow a certain amount in the night. The guests handed their sticks to the man the next morning, and the thief was the one with the ''shortest'' stick, as he had trimmed it to disguise its growth.
* A story told about the mathematician John Napier says that he believed one of his servants was stealing from him, so he declared that they all had to enter a dark room and touch his rooster (not a euphemism) who would crow if it felt the touch of a dishonest man. Since people were rather fuzzy on the difference between scientist and sorcerer at the time, and it was widely rumoured the rooster was his familiar, this sounded plausible. Afterwards, he explained that the rooster was covered in coal dust, and the thief was the man with clean hands.

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* ** There's an old story with a non-verbal variation. A hotel's guest had valuables stolen by another guest at the hotel. They call in a wise man who hands out sticks, each of the same length, to the guests. He says that they're magic, and the stick given to the thief will grow a certain amount in the night. The guests handed their sticks to the man the next morning, and the thief was the one with the ''shortest'' stick, as he had trimmed it to disguise its growth.
* ** A story told about the mathematician John Napier says that he believed one of his servants was stealing from him, so he declared that they all had to enter a dark room and touch his rooster (not a euphemism) who would crow if it felt the touch of a dishonest man. Since people were rather fuzzy on the difference between scientist and sorcerer at the time, and it was widely rumoured the rooster was his familiar, this sounded plausible. Afterwards, he explained that the rooster was covered in coal dust, and the thief was the man with clean hands.hands.
** Yet another variant involves a wise man setting up a box, backing a donkey against a hole cut in it, and telling the suspects to enter the box and pull on the donkey's tail. The donkey would only bray for the thief. Of course, the "tail" the people were pulling in the box wasn't actually the donkey's tail, but it was coated in oil, so the thief could be caught dirty-handed (or clean-handed, as the case may be).
9th Dec '17 1:37:24 AM Fox_One
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* In the ''Film/SgtBilko'' movie, Bilko's soldiers [[FeedTheMole give Thorn's goons false information]], making him remove a 'key component' of the Hover Tank so it wouldn't work at the demonstration the next day. After Bilko and his troops make it so the tank appears to work, Thorn confronts the General overseeing the demonstration, insisting that Bilko is incompetent and that they faked the whole thing. When asked for proof, he reveals the component he removed... showing the four star General and the crowd of witnesses that he deliberately sabotaged the project out of spite towards Bilko.
5th Dec '17 7:36:52 AM Kazmahu
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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'': After being captured, Nia is so sure they're after the names of the crew she was with previously that she's a little poleaxed when the interrogator reveals she's more interested in Nia's more recent traveling companions.

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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'': After being captured, Nia is so sure they're after the names of the crew she was with previously that she's a little poleaxed when the interrogator Inquisitor question her reveals she's more interested in Nia's more recent traveling companions.



-->'''Interrogator:''' Well, that was easy.

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-->'''Interrogator:''' -->'''Morag:''' Well, that was easy.
4th Dec '17 7:14:05 PM Kazmahu
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* ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'': After being captured, Nia is so sure they're after the names of the crew she was with previously that she's a little poleaxed when the interrogator reveals she's more interested in Nia's more recent traveling companions.
-->'''Nia:''' Rex and Pyra?
-->'''Interrogator:''' Well, that was easy.
-->'''Nia:''' [[OhCrap (Dammit!)]]
4th Nov '17 9:28:22 PM TheWanderer
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* The second season of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' begins in the aftermath of a prison riot, with an investigator trying to find out how a prisoner was shot by a weapon that was reported missing and then later was returned to the prison armory without explanation. Near the end of the episode, the investigator confronts a suspect and lays out an explanation of how it could have happened, and why that suspect covered for someone else caught in the riot. Eventually the suspect grudgingly asks "Who told you all that?" Three guesses what the response is.

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* The second season of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' begins in the aftermath of a prison riot, with an investigator trying to find out who shot and wounded [=McManus=], a [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure high ranking prison administrator]], and how a prisoner named [[{{Slimeball}} Scott Ross]] was shot multiple times and killed by a weapon that was reported missing and then from the prison's equivalent of a SWAT team, which later was returned to reappeared in the prison armory without explanation. Near the end of the episode, the investigator confronts a suspect [=McManus=] and lays explains a crucial fact [=McManus=] had left out an explanation before of how it could have happened, his prior account, and why that suspect covered for someone else caught in which can lead to revealing the riot. Eventually identity of the suspect person who killed Ross, a person whom [=McManus=] had been trying to cover for. After a long period of silence, [=McManus=] grudgingly asks "Who told you all that?" Three guesses what the response is.
16th Oct '17 3:41:24 PM Amahn
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** An earlier episode had Carter stuck in a GroundhogDayLoop. He was able to figure out the scientist responsible for it when the scientist told Carter he'd sign his redaction papers later. Trouble was that Carter hadn't even gotten the redaction list from Thorn yet that loop and was approaching the scientist because he was [=GD's=] "time guy" and just wanted help on cracking the case.


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** Even more subtly. Most people will subconsciously check their wallet if bumped into in a crowded place. Pickpockets use this to learn which pocket their mark keeps it in before making their move.
10th Oct '17 7:23:06 PM BattleMaster
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* In ''TransformersPrime'', when Arcee has Starscream in her custody, she mentions how Airachnid offlined her partner. Starscream loudly complains about Airachnid "taking credit for that, too". When Arcee mentions she's talking about Tailgate, Starscream asks "who's Tailgate", tipping her off that it was he who terminated [[spoiler:Cliffjumper]].

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* In ''TransformersPrime'', when Arcee has Starscream in her custody, she mentions how Airachnid offlined her partner. Starscream loudly complains about Airachnid "taking credit for that, too". When Arcee mentions she's talking about Tailgate, Starscream asks "who's Tailgate", tipping her off that it was he who terminated [[spoiler:Cliffjumper]]. Unusual for this trope, Arcee didn't have any suspicions toward Starscream until he said he didn't know who Tailgate was: she'd thought that [[spoiler: Cliffjumper]] was killed by some random Vehicons.
6th Oct '17 3:20:10 PM randomtroper89
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* A lateral thinking puzzle asks how police putting up signs warning about pickpockets actually helps the thieves. The solution is that [[spoiler: pickpockets hang around the signs. When people see the notices, they automatically check their valuables to make sure they haven't been stolen, showing the thieves exactly where they keep them.]]
** Alternatively, an old trick among pickpockets working in groups is to have one person turn to a friend and (loudly) proclaim "Somebody stole my wallet!" The marks nearby instantly will pat their own wallets, broadcasting the location of their valuables.

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* Pickpockets use this to find people wallets.
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A lateral thinking puzzle asks how police putting up signs warning about pickpockets actually helps the thieves. The solution is that [[spoiler: pickpockets hang around the signs. When people see the notices, they automatically check their valuables to make sure they haven't been stolen, showing the thieves exactly where they keep them.]]
** Alternatively, an old trick among pickpockets working in groups is to have one person turn to a friend and (loudly) proclaim "Somebody stole my wallet!" The marks nearby instantly will pat their own wallets, broadcasting the location of their valuables.


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** An old trick among pickpockets working in groups is to have one person turn to a friend and (loudly) proclaim "Somebody stole my wallet!" The marks nearby instantly will pat their own wallets, broadcasting the location of their valuables.
6th Oct '17 3:14:20 PM randomtroper89
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The ploy used to force TheReveal need not be a name; it can be a specific word/phrase, or something spoken in the other character's native language. It can even be a non-verbal prompt, such as a familiar face, location, scent, etc. The point of the trope is that "Ben" is hiding something about himself, and "Stan" tricks "Ben" into revealing it by acting as if he already knows the truth, thus causing an automatic, unthinking reaction.

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The ploy used to force TheReveal need not be a name; it can be a specific word/phrase, or something spoken in the other character's native language. It can even be a non-verbal prompt, such as a familiar face, location, scent, etc. The point of the trope is that "Ben" the infiltrator is hiding something about himself, and "Stan" deceived tricks "Ben" them into revealing it by acting as if he already knows the truth, thus causing an automatic, unthinking reaction.



Subtrope of ReflexiveResponse. See also PullTheThread, OutOfCharacterAlert, BluffingTheMurderer. If Stan wasn't suspicious ''until'' Ben responded as Ben, it's SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay. If Stan says something that only an impostor ''wouldn't'' be suspicious of, it's BluffTheImpostor. INeverSaidItWasPoison may occur if Ben mentions some facts about the case that Stan hadn't revealed. SuspiciouslySpecificDenial is ''totally not'' a related way of letting information slip. This also gives Ben a case of ImplausibleDeniability.

Not to be confused with HowDidYouKnowIDidnt, where Alice appears to act on certain information that Bob knows is secret, then reveals at the end that she didn't know it after all. The {{inverted}} trope is INeverToldYouMyName, when it's ''Stan's'' cover that's blown by revealing he knows too much about Ben.

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Subtrope of ReflexiveResponse. See also PullTheThread, OutOfCharacterAlert, BluffingTheMurderer. If Stan deceived wasn't suspicious ''until'' Ben until infiltrator responded as Ben, the way they did, it's SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay. If Stan the deceived says something that only an impostor ''wouldn't'' wouldn't be suspicious of, it's BluffTheImpostor. INeverSaidItWasPoison may occur if Ben the infiltrator mentions some facts about the case that Stan deceived hadn't revealed. SuspiciouslySpecificDenial is ''totally not'' a related way of letting information slip. This also gives Ben a case of ImplausibleDeniability.

Not to be confused with HowDidYouKnowIDidnt, where Alice someone appears to act on certain information that Bob another person knows is secret, then reveals at the end that she they didn't know it after all. The {{inverted}} trope is INeverToldYouMyName, when it's ''Stan's'' the infiltrator cover that's blown by revealing he knows that they know too much about Ben.
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30th Sep '17 9:02:14 PM HeroicJay
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** When Mr. Feeny asks Frankie Stechino whose idea it was to force Cory and Shawn to dress as cheerleaders, Frankie responds: "I cannot say. I must protect my friend Joey the Rat." Oh, and by the way, [[spoiler:this is the answer to one of the quiz questions on the season 3 box set]].
** Mr. Feeny uses this technique on at least two more occasions. Both cases involved leading a student he suspects of having committed a certain offense into believing that a friend has ratted them out, to elicit as "You told him?" response from the suspect.

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** When Mr. Feeny asks Frankie Stechino whose idea it was to force Cory and Shawn to dress as cheerleaders, Frankie responds: "I cannot say. I must protect my friend Joey the Rat." Oh, and by the way, [[spoiler:this is the answer to one of the quiz questions on the season 3 box set]].
** Mr. Feeny uses this technique on at least two more occasions. Both cases involved leading a student he suspects of having committed a certain offense into believing that a friend has ratted them out, to elicit as "You told him?" response from the suspect.



* Happens on ''Series/{{iCarly}}''
-->Gibby: So there is nobody here?
-->Nora: No, there is nobody in my basement.
-->Gibby: I didn't say anything about a basement.


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* In ''LiveAction/MakoMermaidsAnH2OAdventure'', Evie attempts to bluff Cam into telling her Zac's secret by announcing that he finally told her, and that she completely understands. It sorta works, with Cam showing relief and even outright telling her that Zac should have told her in the first place, which at least confirms that Zac has a secret to hide. However, Evie legitimately has ''no idea whatsoever'' what Zac's secret is, and accidentally gives the bluff away by saying it's something everyone has to go through. Since Cam knows full well that the secret in question is ''suddenly gaining merman powers'', he doesn't buy it past that.
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