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22nd Jun '18 2:01:21 PM nighttrainfm
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** In "The End of Time", after the Master opens the lock around the Time War, BigBad Rassilon reveals his plan to destroy the entire universe so the Time Lords can become beings of pure thought. With the Master's role fulfilled, Rassilon ''also''' declares he's going to personally vaporize him for being "diseased - albeit a disease of our own making."

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** In "The End of Time", after the Master opens the lock around the Time War, BigBad Rassilon reveals his plan to destroy the entire universe so the Time Lords can become beings of pure thought. With the Master's role fulfilled, Rassilon ''also''' ''also'' declares he's going to personally vaporize him for being "diseased - albeit a disease of our own making."
21st Jun '18 6:55:47 AM LentilSandEater
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** Subverted again later. In the three-part episode "Look at the Princess", a palace servant betrays Crichton to Scorpius. Scorpius asks his lieutenant to "give her something special", and everyone expects this trope to occur. Instead, the servant dies because Crichton triggers automatic defenses. Later, we learn that Scorpius is a reasonably honorable man who treats his underlings well when they do their jobs, which means he probably ''did'' mean to give her something special.
*** Not quite. He tells Braca, who was to help the traitor finish her mission, to make sure there are "no. . . witnesses." He was pretty clearly intending to have her offed after Chrichton was picked up. Chrichton just beat him to it in his escape.

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** %%** Subverted again later. In the three-part episode "Look at the Princess", a palace servant betrays Crichton to Scorpius. Scorpius asks his lieutenant to "give her something special", and everyone expects this trope to occur. Instead, the servant dies because Crichton triggers automatic defenses. Later, we learn that Scorpius is a reasonably honorable man who treats his underlings well when they do their jobs, which means he probably ''did'' mean to give her something special.
*** %%*** Not quite. He tells Braca, who was to help the traitor finish her mission, to make sure there are "no. . . witnesses." He was pretty clearly intending to have her offed after Chrichton was picked up. Chrichton just beat him to it in his escape.
20th Jun '18 12:50:31 PM Rubber_Lotus
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* The Comics Code Authority ran into this full stop, and it was never really useful to begin with. Basically its role was censoring comics so they wouldn't damage the minds of impressionable young children, but it was created due to the efforts of a man clinging to a false premise based on observations of a subject group that was far too narrow for the scope of what he claimed, and pretty much made up evidence if he couldn't obtain it through the scientific method (which he never tried to apply anyway). Bottom line, all the Comics Code really did was stifle creativity, force comics to be highly formulaic, and prevent any effort to address real social, political, or cultural issues. Comic publishing companies chafed under this until the 1990's, then basically started pushing the envelope as much as they wanted. Eventually all the comic publishers stopped adhering to it, and just published comics without the Code before abandoning it altogether. The CCA become defunct in 2011.

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* The Comics Code UsefulNotes/ComicsCode Authority ran into this full stop, and it was never really useful to begin with. Basically its role was censoring comics so they wouldn't damage the minds of impressionable young children, but it was created due to the efforts of a man clinging to a false premise based on observations of a subject group that was far too narrow for the scope of what he claimed, and pretty much made up evidence if he couldn't obtain it through the scientific method (which he never tried to apply anyway). Bottom line, all the Comics Code really did was stifle creativity, force comics to be highly formulaic, and prevent any effort to address real social, political, or cultural issues. Comic publishing companies chafed under this until the 1990's, then basically started pushing the envelope as much as they wanted. Eventually all the comic publishers stopped adhering to it, and just published comics without the Code before abandoning it altogether. The CCA become defunct in 2011.2011.
** It's been suggested by several critics that the ThinkOfTheChildren impetus was only ever a smoke-screen for the Code's ''real'' purpose: to drive horror/crime giant Creator/ECComics straight into the ground. See, after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, superhero publishers were pretty much hemorrhaging readers every year, while EC was gobbling up the market with ''far'' more action-packed (''and'' usually more creative) comics. Solution? Launch a nationwide moral panic that superhero titles could weather (sometimes even [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks flourish in]]) better than horror/crime stuff ever could..
19th Jun '18 12:36:11 PM FordPrefect
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* Basically the philosophy behind the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitality_curve vitality curve]], or "rank and yank" corporation HR policy. Every year the 10% of the workforce which have outlived their usefulness, are sacked. The usefulness of the policy has been long debated in HR circles, with many arguing that this system encourages employees to spend more time on interoffice politics than actually working.

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* Basically the philosophy behind the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitality_curve vitality curve]], or "rank and yank" corporation HR policy. Every year the 10% of the workforce which have outlived their usefulness, usefulness are sacked. The usefulness of the policy has been long debated in HR circles, with many arguing that this system encourages employees to spend more time on interoffice politics than actually working.



* TheGreatPoliticsMessup caused a great deal of this among the third world. Now that they weren't needed as anti-Communist bullwarks, dictators like UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein and Manuel Noriega were cut off by the CIA, hung out to dry by the State Department, and invaded by the US Army. This trope also happened to genuinely good guys like Ahmed Shah Massoud, an anti-Taliban mujahadeen whose calls for assistance in Afghanistan and [[TheWarOnTerror his claims of radical Islam fermenting there]] were mostly ignored during the 1990s.

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* TheGreatPoliticsMessup caused a great deal of this among the third world. Third World. Now that they weren't needed as anti-Communist bullwarks, bulwarks, dictators like UsefulNotes/SaddamHussein and Manuel Noriega were cut off by the CIA, hung out to dry by the State Department, and invaded by the US Army. This trope also happened to genuinely good guys like Ahmed Shah Massoud, an anti-Taliban mujahadeen whose calls for assistance in Afghanistan and [[TheWarOnTerror his claims of radical Islam fermenting there]] were mostly ignored during the 1990s.



* The Comics Code Authority ran into this full stop, and it was never really useful to begin with. Basically its' role was censoring comics so they wouldn't damage the minds of impressionable young children, but it was created due to the efforts of a man clung to a false premise based on observations of a subject group that was far too narrow for the scope of what he claimed, and pretty much made up evidence if he couldn't obtain it through the scientific method (which he never tried to apply anyway). Bottom line, all the comics code really did was stifle creativity, force comics to be highly formulaic, and prevented any effort to address real social, political, or cultural issues. Comic publishing companies chafed under this until the 1990's, then basically started pushing the envelope as much as they wanted. Eventually all the comic publishers stopped adhering to it, and just published comics without the code before abandoning it all together. The CCA become defunct in 2011.

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* The Comics Code Authority ran into this full stop, and it was never really useful to begin with. Basically its' its role was censoring comics so they wouldn't damage the minds of impressionable young children, but it was created due to the efforts of a man clung clinging to a false premise based on observations of a subject group that was far too narrow for the scope of what he claimed, and pretty much made up evidence if he couldn't obtain it through the scientific method (which he never tried to apply anyway). Bottom line, all the comics code Comics Code really did was stifle creativity, force comics to be highly formulaic, and prevented prevent any effort to address real social, political, or cultural issues. Comic publishing companies chafed under this until the 1990's, then basically started pushing the envelope as much as they wanted. Eventually all the comic publishers stopped adhering to it, and just published comics without the code Code before abandoning it all together.altogether. The CCA become defunct in 2011.



** UsefulNotes/NaziGermany did this to a lot of countries during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, including Vichy France after the Allies landed in French North Africa (nominal Vichiyite territory), Italy after the Allies landed in Sicily, and Hungary after they tried to defect. The bungled-up attempt to do this to the Soviet Union (after much initial cooperation, including the joint invasion of Poland and the Soviets providing Germany with resources to fight against France and Britain) sowed much of the seeds of the Nazis' downfall.
** Lest we forget that Nazi Germany did this to their '''own people''' too. The eugenic plan, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4 Action T4]] was a program of forced euthanasia under which physicians were directed to judge patients "incurably sick, by critical medical examination," and then administer to these patients a "[[MercyKill mercy death]]". 70,273 were killed under this program.

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** UsefulNotes/NaziGermany did this to a lot of countries during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, including Vichy France after the Allies landed in French North Africa (nominal Vichiyite Vichyite territory), Italy after the Allies landed in Sicily, and Hungary after they tried to defect. The bungled-up attempt to do this to the Soviet Union (after much initial cooperation, including the joint invasion of Poland and the Soviets providing Germany with resources to fight against France and Britain) sowed much of the seeds of the Nazis' downfall.
** Lest we forget that Nazi Germany did this to their '''own people''' too. The eugenic plan, plan [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4 Action T4]] was a program of forced euthanasia under which physicians were directed to judge patients "incurably sick, by critical medical examination," and then administer to these patients a "[[MercyKill mercy death]]". 70,273 were killed under this program.



* A few months after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII ended in Europe, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill was voted out of office. While he had been a popular and heroic wartime leader, voters were scepitcal about his ability to govern in peacetime and much preferred the plans offered by the Labour Party.
* A lot of websites that rely on user contributions to run, particularly some of the more stuffy wikis, have this attitude about their users. As soon as a user ticks off a moderator, makes a poor contribution, or in any way becomes a liability they label that user as a {{Troll}} and lay down a ban regardless of the positive contributions that user has made.

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* A few months after UsefulNotes/WorldWarII ended in Europe, UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill was voted out of office. While he had been a popular and heroic wartime leader, voters were scepitcal skeptical about his ability to govern in peacetime and much preferred the plans offered by the Labour Party.
* A lot of websites that rely on user contributions to run, particularly some of the more stuffy wikis, have this attitude about their users. As soon as a user ticks off a moderator, makes a poor contribution, or in any way becomes a liability liability, they label that user as a {{Troll}} and lay down a ban regardless of the positive contributions that user has made.



* This has become true in the world of boxing in the 21 Century. While fighters before then were allowed to lose and gain experience before building themselves up to become popular attractions, now a days a fighter must have a reputation of being a undefeated prospect, especially when it comes to big fights. If a fighter loses, their sponsors might abandoned them, and their coach might drop them. There have been many unbeaten prospects whom lost and were never heard from again, unless they become blue collar gatekeepers, [[ViciousCycle used to challenge the next unbeaten prospect]]. The only way this gets prevented is if a fighter wins enough big fights before losing, hopefully securing a large enough following.

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* This has become true in the world of boxing in the 21 Century. 21st century. While fighters before then were allowed to lose and gain experience before building themselves up to become popular attractions, now a days nowadays a fighter must have a reputation of being a an undefeated prospect, especially when it comes to big fights. If a fighter loses, their sponsors might abandoned abandon them, and their coach might drop them. There have been many unbeaten prospects whom who lost and were never heard from again, unless they become blue collar gatekeepers, [[ViciousCycle used to challenge the next unbeaten prospect]]. The only way this gets prevented is if a fighter wins enough big fights before losing, hopefully securing a large enough following.
19th Jun '18 12:26:46 PM FordPrefect
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* At the first show of Wrestling/RingOfHonor's ''Fifth Year Festival'', Wrestling/AustinAries and Wrestling/RoderickStrong challenged Generation Next stablemate Wrestling/MattSydal and his newer partner Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels for the World Tag Team Titles and were unsuccessfuul when Aries suffered a knee injury. So Strong beat up Aries and announced he was forming a new TagTeam with Davey Richards called No Remorse Corps.

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* At the first show of Wrestling/RingOfHonor's ''Fifth Year Festival'', Wrestling/AustinAries and Wrestling/RoderickStrong challenged Generation Next stablemate Wrestling/MattSydal and his newer partner Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels for the World Tag Team Titles and were unsuccessfuul unsuccessful when Aries suffered a knee injury. So Strong beat up Aries and announced he was forming a new TagTeam with Davey Richards called No Remorse Corps.
7th Jun '18 5:43:59 PM lakingsif
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* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' prequel books, Marilena Carpathia, the mother of the future Antichrist Nicolae Carpathia, was killed off when Nicolae, still a child, was old enough to be cared for by his mentor Viv Ivins. His [[HasTwoMommies two biological fathers]], who were living together off payments from the corporation that funded the genetic project that brought forth Nicolae, were later [[BuryYourGays killed off]].

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* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' prequel books, Marilena Carpathia, the mother of the future Antichrist Nicolae Carpathia, was killed off when Nicolae, still a child, was old enough to be cared for by his mentor Viv Ivins. His [[HasTwoMommies two biological fathers]], who were living together off payments from the corporation that funded the genetic project that brought forth Nicolae, were later [[BuryYourGays killed off]].off.
31st May '18 4:29:13 PM foxley
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* ''AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho'': In ''[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho195Mistfall Mistfall]]'', [[spoiler:Solus]] never had any attention with of brining [[spoiler:Drell]] along with him after they assassinate the Decider. Instead, he shoots him, leaving his body as another piece of misdirection.
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29th May '18 9:26:39 PM LordEpsilon
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* Various examples in ''Film/{{Momentum|2015}}''. All involve the anti-heroine Alex in some way.
** Nicely subverted by TheDragon who understands it's a good idea to keep as many underlings alive as possible when dealing with someone as dangerous and resourceful as Alex. Even when she takes a hitman as a HumanShield, he refuses to ShootTheHostage.
** Alex herself eliminates her dangerously psychotic crew member Wayne during the opening bank heist. Justified since he would have killed her otherwise.
** Inverted by Alex. She's smart enough to keep a valuable data drive hidden as a bargaining chip, knowing the bad guys will be reluctant to kill her until it's recovered.
29th May '18 2:56:17 PM NotGonnaDoALot4
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* Subverted in ''PsychoWaluigi''. After Waluigi frees Psycho Iris, the latter says he is about to do this, but then he follows it up by saying, "...JUST KIDDING! I only said that 'cause you were expecting me to, and I didn't want to dissapoint."

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* Subverted in ''PsychoWaluigi''.''VideoGame/PsychoWaluigi''. After Waluigi frees Psycho Iris, the latter says he is about to do this, but then he follows it up by saying, "...JUST KIDDING! I only said that 'cause you were expecting me to, and I didn't want to dissapoint."
20th May '18 6:59:30 PM Gideoncrawle
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* Chris [=McLean=] says this word-for-word Owen in the fourth season of ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaIsland'', when the latter asks why he and the cast of the first three seasons aren't competing this time. Then Chris has him blown up.
** Jo says a variation of the same sentence about Lightning later in the season.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama''
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Chris [=McLean=] says this word-for-word the stock phrase verbatim to Owen in Season 4 (''Total Drama [[NewSeasonNewName Revenge of the fourth season of ''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaIsland'', Island]]'') when the latter asks why he and the cast of the first three seasons aren't competing this time. Then Chris has him blown up.
then sticks an explosive charge on Owen's face and detonates it.[[note]]Being a toon in a comedy, Owen survives none the worse.[[/note]]
** Also in Season 4, Jo says a variation of the same sentence stock phrase about Lightning later in the season.Lightning.
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