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30th Mar '13 9:17:32 PM JIKTV
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GameShow first produced for KTLA (local Los Angeles television) by Desilu, hosted by JackBarry. It was later acquired by producers Ralph Andrews and Bill Yaggemann, and moved to Creator/{{NBC}} with Tom Kennedy as host from 1963 to 1969.

It was a word association game like ''{{Password}}'', except the catch was to identify names of famous people or places. Two teams, each of a celebrity and a civilian, communicated the names by forming a sentence with the last word missing. That word could sound like, but not spelled like, part of the name. Each team had up to two attempts to communicate the name. Doing so scored a point, with three winning the game.

The show returned on KTLA in late 1974, now hosted by Clark Race with Tom Kennedy as a regular panelist (although at some point, the two swapped positions). It again expanded to a network this time Creator/{{ABC}}, in July-November 1975, and used a larger format (also used on the KTLA series): now, four celebrity panelists alternated giving clues to two contestants, with correct guesses worth money starting at $250 for the first clue and ending at $50 for four clues. The first to get $500 won.

The last run was in daily syndication for six months in 1978-79, hosted by Jim Peck. Two contestants played on Monday and Tuesday of a particular week, while two more played on Wednesday and Thursday. In a tournament fashion, the highest scorers from those games played each other on Friday. Instead of cash being awarded on a scale for each correct answer, every answer scored only one point, regardless of the number of clues necessary, with five winning the game. Correct answers were worth $100 on the Monday–Thursday shows and $200 on Fridays, but these payouts were not reflected in the scoring.
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!!GameShow Tropes in use:
* BonusRound: The Bonus Board.
** '''NBC:''' Three clues were shown, one at a time, to a famous name. $300 was awarded for getting the name on the first clue, $200 for the second, and $100 for the third.
*** Another bonus came shortly into the NBC run: Players that won the game 3-0 (a "blitz") ''and'' got $300 on the Bonus Board also won a car.
** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had up to six tries, with getting four names winning $5000. In November 1975, if four names were guessed each on one clue, the contestant won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.
** '''Syndication:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name. On Monday-Thursday, a win was worth $5,000 cash; on Friday, $10,000 in prizes.
* HomeParticipationSweepstakes: Around 1966-67, the Bonus Board puzzles began to be provided by viewers. The viewer received some S&H green stamps no matter what, but if it was used in a Blitz, the viewer got 100,000 (later 1,000,000) S&H green stamps.
* Personnel:
** TheAnnouncer: John Harlan.
** GameShowHost: Jack Barry on the original KTLA series, followed by Tom Kennedy. Clark Race hosted part of the 1974-75 KTLA series, followed by Tom. Jim Peck helmed the syndicated run.
* ShowTheFolksAtHome: Names were flashed on-screen along with a hushed spiel by Harlan. Subverted at least once per show with "Guess Who" or a series of question marks.
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!!This show provides examples of:
* {{Expy}}: Indeed, it was so similar to ''Password'' that [[Creator/MarkGoodson Goodson]]-Todman [[YouWannaGetSued threatened a lawsuit for plagiarism]]; the result was that Tom's lectern moved from the center to the far left.
* OpeningNarration: The NBC era had celebrities with their backs to the camera, each giving a clue to part of their name, to which Tom would crack a silly joke.
-->'''Michael Landon:''' A two-wheeled vehicle is called...\\
'''Tom Kennedy:''' Half a Volkswagen.
** After which Tom said, "And I'm Tom Kennedy, and the name of our show is ''You Don't Say!''"
** The ABC opening was, "Today, [names of celebrities] are all here to play television's funniest game, ''You Don't Say!''" (Later in the run, "funniest" became "most challenging", most likely due to ''Series/MatchGame '75''.)
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GameShow first produced for KTLA (local Los Angeles television) by Desilu, hosted by JackBarry. It was later acquired by producers Ralph Andrews and Bill Yaggemann, and moved to Creator/{{NBC}} with Tom Kennedy as host from 1963 to 1969.

It was a word association game like ''{{Password}}'', except the catch was to identify names of famous people or places. Two teams, each of a celebrity and a civilian, communicated the names by forming a sentence with the last word missing. That word could sound like, but not spelled like, part of the name. Each team had up to two attempts to communicate the name. Doing so scored a point, with three winning the game.

The show returned on KTLA in late 1974, now hosted by Clark Race with Tom Kennedy as a regular panelist (although at some point, the two swapped positions). It again expanded to a network this time Creator/{{ABC}}, in July-November 1975, and used a larger format (also used on the KTLA series): now, four celebrity panelists alternated giving clues to two contestants, with correct guesses worth money starting at $250 for the first clue and ending at $50 for four clues. The first to get $500 won.

The last run was in daily syndication for six months in 1978-79, hosted by Jim Peck. Two contestants played on Monday and Tuesday of a particular week, while two more played on Wednesday and Thursday. In a tournament fashion, the highest scorers from those games played each other on Friday. Instead of cash being awarded on a scale for each correct answer, every answer scored only one point, regardless of the number of clues necessary, with five winning the game. Correct answers were worth $100 on the Monday–Thursday shows and $200 on Fridays, but these payouts were not reflected in the scoring.
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!!GameShow Tropes in use:
* BonusRound: The Bonus Board.
** '''NBC:''' Three clues were shown, one at a time, to a famous name. $300 was awarded for getting the name on the first clue, $200 for the second, and $100 for the third.
*** Another bonus came shortly into the NBC run: Players that won the game 3-0 (a "blitz") ''and'' got $300 on the Bonus Board also won a car.
** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had up to six tries, with getting four names winning $5000. In November 1975, if four names were guessed each on one clue, the contestant won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.
** '''Syndication:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name. On Monday-Thursday, a win was worth $5,000 cash; on Friday, $10,000 in prizes.
* HomeParticipationSweepstakes: Around 1966-67, the Bonus Board puzzles began to be provided by viewers. The viewer received some S&H green stamps no matter what, but if it was used in a Blitz, the viewer got 100,000 (later 1,000,000) S&H green stamps.
* Personnel:
** TheAnnouncer: John Harlan.
** GameShowHost: Jack Barry on the original KTLA series, followed by Tom Kennedy. Clark Race hosted part of the 1974-75 KTLA series, followed by Tom. Jim Peck helmed the syndicated run.
* ShowTheFolksAtHome: Names were flashed on-screen along with a hushed spiel by Harlan. Subverted at least once per show with "Guess Who" or a series of question marks.
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!!This show provides examples of:
* {{Expy}}: Indeed, it was so similar to ''Password'' that [[Creator/MarkGoodson Goodson]]-Todman [[YouWannaGetSued threatened a lawsuit for plagiarism]]; the result was that Tom's lectern moved from the center to the far left.
* OpeningNarration: The NBC era had celebrities with their backs to the camera, each giving a clue to part of their name, to which Tom would crack a silly joke.
-->'''Michael Landon:''' A two-wheeled vehicle is called...\\
'''Tom Kennedy:''' Half a Volkswagen.
** After which Tom said, "And I'm Tom Kennedy, and the name of our show is ''You Don't Say!''"
** The ABC opening was, "Today, [names of celebrities] are all here to play television's funniest game, ''You Don't Say!''" (Later in the run, "funniest" became "most challenging", most likely due to ''Series/MatchGame '75''.)
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30th Mar '13 9:04:03 PM JIKTV
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** The ABC opening was, "Today, [names of celebrities] are all here to play television's funniest game, ''You Don't Say!''" (Later in the run, "funniest" became "most challenging", most likely due to ''MatchGame '75''.)

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** The ABC opening was, "Today, [names of celebrities] are all here to play television's funniest game, ''You Don't Say!''" (Later in the run, "funniest" became "most challenging", most likely due to ''MatchGame ''Series/MatchGame '75''.)
30th Mar '13 9:03:25 PM JIKTV
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* {{Expy}}: Indeed, it was so similar to ''Password'' that Goodson-Todman [[YouWannaGetSued threatened a lawsuit for plagiarism]]; the result was that Tom's lectern moved from the center to the far left.

to:

* {{Expy}}: Indeed, it was so similar to ''Password'' that Goodson-Todman [[Creator/MarkGoodson Goodson]]-Todman [[YouWannaGetSued threatened a lawsuit for plagiarism]]; the result was that Tom's lectern moved from the center to the far left.
5th Mar '13 5:45:51 PM ccook55
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** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had up tp six tries, and if four names were guessed each on one clue, the contestant won $10,000. Otherwise, the top prize would be $5000. The money was at risk for each name.

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** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had up tp to six tries, and with getting four names winning $5000. In November 1975, if four names were guessed each on one clue, the contestant won $10,000. Otherwise, the top prize would be $5000.$10,000. The money was at risk for each name.
5th Mar '13 5:44:49 PM ccook55
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** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had five tries, and if four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "five for five" won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.

to:

** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had five up tp six tries, and if four names were guessed, that player guessed each on one clue, the contestant won $5,000; late in $10,000. Otherwise, the run, going "five for five" won $10,000.top prize would be $5000. The money was at risk for each name.
22nd Feb '13 2:04:30 AM ccook55
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** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had five tries, and if four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "four for four" won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.

to:

** '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had five tries, and if four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "four "five for four" five" won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.
16th Feb '13 11:50:30 AM CorahsUncle
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GameShow first produced for KTLA (local Los Angeles television) by Desilu, hosted by Jack Barry. It was later acquired by producers Ralph Andrews and Bill Yaggemann, and moved to Creator/{{NBC}} from 1963-69.

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GameShow first produced for KTLA (local Los Angeles television) by Desilu, hosted by Jack Barry. JackBarry. It was later acquired by producers Ralph Andrews and Bill Yaggemann, and moved to Creator/{{NBC}} with Tom Kennedy as host from 1963-69.
1963 to 1969.



The show returned on KTLA in late 1974, now hosted by Clark Race with Tom as a regular panelist (although at some point, the two swapped positions). It again expanded to a network o swapped positions, and when the show came back to was revived on Creator/{{ABC}} in July-November 1975, and used a larger format (also used on the KTLA series): now, four celebrity panelists alternated giving clues to two contestants, with correct guesses worth money starting at $250 for the first clue and ending at $50 for four clues. The first to get $500 won.

to:

The show returned on KTLA in late 1974, now hosted by Clark Race with Tom Kennedy as a regular panelist (although at some point, the two swapped positions). It again expanded to a network o swapped positions, and when the show came back to was revived on Creator/{{ABC}} this time Creator/{{ABC}}, in July-November 1975, and used a larger format (also used on the KTLA series): now, four celebrity panelists alternated giving clues to two contestants, with correct guesses worth money starting at $250 for the first clue and ending at $50 for four clues. The first to get $500 won.



*** Another bonus came shortly into the NBC run: players that won the game 3-0 (a "blitz") ''and'' got $300 on the Bonus Board also won a car.
** '''ABC.:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had five tries, and if four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "four for four" won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.
** '''Syn.:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name. On Monday-Thursday, a win was worth $5,000 cash; on Friday, $10,000 in prizes.
* HomeParticipationSweepstakes: Around 1966-67, the Bonus Board puzzles began to be provided by viewers. The viewer received some S&H green stamps no matter what, but if it was used in a Blitz s/he got 100,000 (later 1,000,000) S&H green stamps.

to:

*** Another bonus came shortly into the NBC run: players Players that won the game 3-0 (a "blitz") ''and'' got $300 on the Bonus Board also won a car.
** '''ABC.:''' '''ABC:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each subsequent word up to four. They had five tries, and if four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "four for four" won $10,000. The money was at risk for each name.
** '''Syn.:''' '''Syndication:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name. On Monday-Thursday, a win was worth $5,000 cash; on Friday, $10,000 in prizes.
* HomeParticipationSweepstakes: Around 1966-67, the Bonus Board puzzles began to be provided by viewers. The viewer received some S&H green stamps no matter what, but if it was used in a Blitz s/he Blitz, the viewer got 100,000 (later 1,000,000) S&H green stamps.



* {{Expy}}: Indeed, it was so similar to ''Password'' that Goodson-Todman [[YouWannaGetSued threatened a lawsuit for plagiarism]]; the result was that Tom's podium moved from the center to the far left.

to:

* {{Expy}}: Indeed, it was so similar to ''Password'' that Goodson-Todman [[YouWannaGetSued threatened a lawsuit for plagiarism]]; the result was that Tom's podium lectern moved from the center to the far left.



** After which Tom said "And I'm Tom Kennedy, and the name of our show is ''You Don't Say!''"
** The ABC opening was "Today, (names of celebrities) are all here to play television's funniest game, ''You Don't Say!''" (Later in the run, "funniest" became "most challenging", most likely due to ''MatchGame '75''.)

to:

** After which Tom said said, "And I'm Tom Kennedy, and the name of our show is ''You Don't Say!''"
** The ABC opening was was, "Today, (names [names of celebrities) celebrities] are all here to play television's funniest game, ''You Don't Say!''" (Later in the run, "funniest" became "most challenging", most likely due to ''MatchGame '75''.)
16th Feb '13 11:34:07 AM goldenroad
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** '''ABC.:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $1,000 for each name guessed up to four names in five tries. If four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "five for five" won $10,000. The money is at risk for each name.

to:

** '''ABC.:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $1,000 $500 for the first name guessed, doubled with each name guessed subsequent word up to four names in four. They had five tries. If tries, and if four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "five "four for five" four" won $10,000. The money is was at risk for each name.
16th Feb '13 11:31:28 AM goldenroad
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The last run was in daily syndication for six months in 1978-79, hosted by Jim Peck.

to:

The last run was in daily syndication for six months in 1978-79, hosted by Jim Peck. Two contestants played on Monday and Tuesday of a particular week, while two more played on Wednesday and Thursday. In a tournament fashion, the highest scorers from those games played each other on Friday. Instead of cash being awarded on a scale for each correct answer, every answer scored only one point, regardless of the number of clues necessary, with five winning the game. Correct answers were worth $100 on the Monday–Thursday shows and $200 on Fridays, but these payouts were not reflected in the scoring.



** '''Syn.:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name.

to:

** '''Syn.:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name. On Monday-Thursday, a win was worth $5,000 cash; on Friday, $10,000 in prizes.
16th Feb '13 11:29:19 AM goldenroad
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** '''ABC/Syn.:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $1,000 for each name guessed up to four names in five tries. If four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "five for five" won $10,000.

to:

** '''ABC/Syn.'''ABC.:''' The player gave clues to the celebrity, winning $1,000 for each name guessed up to four names in five tries. If four names were guessed, that player won $5,000; late in the run, going "five for five" won $10,000. The money is at risk for each name.
** '''Syn.:''' Same as above, except no money was awarded per name.
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