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11th Jun '16 5:07:53 AM narm00
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* Present throughout ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'', but particularly in the issue where he tries to keep Barbara Gordon (Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}) [[Comicbook/TheKillingJoke from getting shot by]] SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. He tries and fails to stop the event from happening multiple times before accepting that there are some things he isn't capable of changing because of solidified time (i.e. changing the past purposely, already extremely dangerous in "normal" cases, becomes impossible because certain events are too important to change, such as preventing Barbra Gordon from being crippled, thus preventing her from becoming Oracle, or saving ComicBook/BlueBeetle, preventing the Max Lord / Checkmate conspiracy from being revealed).
* ''Comicbook/UniversalWarOne'' , when the group of heroes are trapped in the past, one of them realise that all the attempts to avoid the death of one of them is in fact leading to his death.

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* Present throughout ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'', but particularly in the issue where he tries to keep Barbara Gordon (Comicbook/{{Batgirl}}) [[Comicbook/TheKillingJoke from getting shot by]] SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.ComicBook/TheJoker. He tries and fails to stop the event from happening multiple times before accepting that there are some things he isn't capable of changing because of solidified time (i.e. changing the past purposely, already extremely dangerous in "normal" cases, becomes impossible because certain events are too important to change, such as preventing Barbra Barbara Gordon from being crippled, thus preventing her from becoming Oracle, or saving ComicBook/BlueBeetle, preventing the Max Lord / Checkmate conspiracy from being revealed).
* ''Comicbook/UniversalWarOne'' , ** It later turns out, as revealed in ''[[ComicBook/DCRebirth DC Universe: Rebirth]]'', that time can be changed in regards to these events, whether changing their outcome (so Barbara regains the use of her legs), or rewinding/removing them so they haven't happened (so Ted Kord is alive, but hasn't become Blue Beetle) - but only when the timestream's vulnerable, such as in the aftermath of ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}''.
* ''Comicbook/UniversalWarOne'': When
the group of heroes are trapped in the past, one of them realise realises that all the attempts to avoid the death of one of them is in fact leading to his death.



** Season 2's episode "How Long is Forever?" has Starfire sent into 20 years into the future during a battle with a time-traveling villain named Warp. In the future, her friends split apart after he absence and Warp tells her, despite believing his interference caused it, that nothing has changed, as everything is as history says it is. Of course, [[ScrewDestiny reuniting her friends proves otherwise]].

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** Season 2's episode "How Long is Forever?" has Starfire sent into 20 years into the future during a battle with a time-traveling villain named Warp. In the future, her friends split apart after he her absence and Warp tells her, despite believing his interference caused it, that nothing has changed, as everything is as history says it is. Of course, [[ScrewDestiny reuniting her friends proves otherwise]].
1st Jun '16 10:33:39 AM emeriin
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* In WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's editorial on ''Film/{[Unbreakable}}'', he discusses the darker side of this, asking about the people who hadn't wanted to be mean and the people destined to be victims.
26th May '16 10:53:11 PM M84
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* In the backstory of ''Film/{{Krull}}'', the Cyclops race made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal]] with The Beast: they would trade one of their eyes in exchange for the ability to see the future. The Beast took their eyes and gave them the ability to see the future. Specifically, their future ''deaths''. Any Cyclops who tries to avoid their fated end always ends up dying in an even more painful way instead. The Cyclops Rell leaves the rest of the heroes near the end because his time has come. [[spoiler:He goes back to help them anyway and holds open a pair of moving walls just long enough for the others to enter the lair. Sadly, they are unable to save him as the walls slowly crush him to death.]]
24th May '16 9:43:21 PM lachieshocker
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** Boingo's Stand, Thoth, takes the form of a comic book that predicts the immediate future. These predictions are boasted by Boingo as being 100% absolute. While this is true, they are also highly prone to {{Prophecy Twist}}s; especially if someone actively tries to avoid the predictions of the book. For example, when Boingo's brother Oingo is about to be caught planting a trap that Thoth has prophecised will blow up Jotaro, he uses his Stand to transform himself ''into'' Jotaro to escape detection and ends up being the one who is injured in the trap.

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** Boingo's Stand, Thoth, takes the form of a comic book that predicts the immediate future. These predictions are boasted by Boingo as being 100% absolute. While this is true, they are also highly prone to {{Prophecy Twist}}s; especially if someone actively tries to avoid the predictions of the book. For example, when Boingo's brother Oingo is about to be caught planting a trap that Thoth has prophecised will blow up Jotaro, he uses his Stand to transform himself ''into'' Jotaro to escape detection and ends up being the one who is injured in the trap. [[spoiler: However, one of Thoth's predictions shows Jotaro's face being split in half with "blood everywhere". While this doesn't happen immediately, over 25 years later, Jotaro is killed by Enrico Pucci's Stand Made In Heaven. The scenario? His face is split in half.]]
24th May '16 8:31:35 PM Someoneman
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* It seems that fate is quite determined to have Alexander, main character of ''VideoGame/CirqueDeZale'', become the hero who will save the world. Once Alexander accomplishes his goal of getting a circus together, [[spoiler:he is kidnapped by the sorceror he was supposed to stop. Once he escapes and ends up on a deserted island, he decides to just stay in the fancy mansion that another inhabitant of the island built, resulting in said mansion getting destroyed.]] In the end, [[spoiler:Alexander destroys the device of destruction, but claims that he just did it because he wanted to, not because he was destined to.]]
23rd May '16 9:56:06 AM Doug86
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* ''DarkOracle'': Attempts at preventing the comic's predictions from coming true inevitably result in a SelfFulfillingProphecy.

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* ''DarkOracle'': ''Series/DarkOracle'': Attempts at preventing the comic's predictions from coming true inevitably result in a SelfFulfillingProphecy.
20th May '16 2:06:50 AM Acebrock
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* Theoretical Physics seems to love this trope:
** AlbertEinstein prescribed to this idea, believing that there is only one inevitable future, despite the appearance of multiple possibilities.
** One of the strangest concepts of quantum theory is that randomness, which is a lynch-pin of quantum mechanics, is actually entirely false. Within the confines of a single Universe, there is only ever one outcome of any event, thus preserving causality - the sum-and-total of any given Universe, from beginning to end, can be written down in exactly one equation without any variables, always arriving at the same result; however, due in part to a phenomenon called the Fishbowl Effect, beings within that Universe can never gather enough information to calculate this equation (because Time acts as a SpannerInTheWorks creating Uncertainty). It IS possible, however, to gather all information from a Universe ''IF'' you are outside of that Universe looking in (thus being able to observe all points of data at once, like a still image); going even further, it is then possible to ''alter'' the events within a Universe if you know its equation... [[StableTimeLoop but even then it is predestined to happen because it is part of the]] [[{{Multiverse}} Multiversal]] equation that governs all possible realities concretely. If you step out of the Multiverse into whatever is above that and change the Multiverse, it's ''STILL'' predestined because the laws of that higher plane describe it as so... so on and so forth, in an inescapable and forever-expanding Matryoshka-doll of quantum-causality.
* Biology and physics have shown that the idea of "Free Will," is, in fact, quite illusory; every act that any living thing takes is invariably a reaction to external stimuli - in the case of intelligent/sentient creatures like dogs, cats, horses, etc., and obviously humans, every action is motivated either by past events which they recollect and react to, or by basic instincts on the subconscious level. We ''feel'' as though we have free will, and acting as such isn't entirely wrong, as we still do make active decisions and consider many possible outcomes of each action, but ultimately all this is still dictated entirely by physics and biochemistry at the lowest levels of reality.
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4th May '16 4:28:22 AM starjammer05
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** Also worth noting is that as an albino peacock, Shen himself is a black-and-white warrior. All the events of the film that conspire to bring about his doom are things that he directly or indirectly set into motion.
4th May '16 4:15:17 AM starjammer05
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** Doctor Manhattan could ''not'' change the future to his liking because his "foreknowledge" was simply an ability to remember future events. While he could foresee the future he could only react to it in the moment, meaning that anything that took him by surprise at the time was beyond his ability to change. Basically, he lives in an "eternal now".
25th Apr '16 1:23:22 PM Pannic
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* A key part of King Sombra's StartOfDarkness in ''[[MyLittlePonyFiendshipIsMagic]]''. As a child, he and a friend see visions of their future selves; his friend as a princess, and himself as a monster. When it appears that his friend's future is coming to pass, the realization is a large part of what drives him over the edge.

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* A key part of King Sombra's StartOfDarkness in ''[[MyLittlePonyFiendshipIsMagic]]''.''[[Comicbook/MyLittlePonyFiendshipIsMagic My Little Pony: Fiendship is Magic]]''. As a child, he and a friend see visions of their future selves; his friend as a princess, and himself as a monster. When it appears that his friend's future is coming to pass, the realization is a large part of what drives him over the edge.
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