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* In ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2'', the antagonist peacock Shen ordered the massacre of the entire panda population in China because of the prophecy that he will be brought down by a warrior in "Black and white". In the end, his efforts to change his fate became the very beginning of his downfall (Shen's parents banished him out for it) and sets up the chain of events that will fulfill this prophecy.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2'', the antagonist peacock Shen ordered the massacre of the entire panda population in China because of the prophecy that he will be brought down by a warrior in "Black "black and white". In the end, his efforts to change his fate became the very beginning of his downfall (Shen's parents banished him out for it) and sets up the chain of events that will fulfill this prophecy.



* This is revealed to be the crux of ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' movies. Towards the end of ''Film/TheMatrixReloaded'', Neo finally reaches the "source" of the Matrix and meets the Architect, the computer program who designed the Matrix. He informs Neo that Zion will ultimately be destroyed and that it cannot be saved. At the end of their conversation, he also mentions that Neo's "destiny", like that of his five predecessors, was to enter the source and restart the program, allowing 23 humans to be selected to rebuild Zion. Thus, the "prophecy" will be fulfilled that after a century of warfare between humans and machines, the fight will finally come to an end. However, Neo would only be restarting the war, not ending it. Finally, the Architect mentions that Trinity will inevitably die in order to save Neo. The Architect tells him that there is nothing he can do to stop that from happening. In ''Film/TheMatrixRevolutions'', Neo tells the Oracle about the Architect's warnings, and she [[spoiler:responds that the Architect is full of crap and can't predict the future worth a damn. Guess what? Zion is not destroyed and the war comes to a permanent end. Both Neo and Trinity die, though.]]
* ''Film/{{Knowing}}'' (2009) stars Creator/NicolasCage as a HollywoodAtheist who rushes around trying to find a way to prevent [[spoiler:(or personally survive) TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]], but by the end we see there was nothing he could have done to change it.

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* This ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'' is revealed to be an excellent example.
** As is
the crux of ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' movies. Towards film it's based on, Chris Marker's ''Film/LaJetee''.
* Deconstructed in ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau''. Destiny needs its little helpers (called "The Adjusters") to ensure
the end of ''Film/TheMatrixReloaded'', Neo finally reaches the "source" proper unfolding of the Matrix and meets the Architect, the computer program who designed the Matrix. He informs Neo that Zion will ultimately be destroyed and that it cannot be saved. At the end of their conversation, he also mentions that Neo's "destiny", like that of his five predecessors, was to enter the source and restart the program, allowing 23 humans to be selected to rebuild Zion. Thus, the "prophecy" will be fulfilled that after a century of warfare between humans and machines, the fight will finally come to an end. However, Neo would only be restarting the war, not ending it. Finally, the Architect mentions that Trinity will inevitably die in order to save Neo. The Architect tells him that there is nothing he can do to stop that from happening. In ''Film/TheMatrixRevolutions'', Neo tells the Oracle about the Architect's warnings, and she [[spoiler:responds that the Architect is full of crap and can't predict the future worth a damn. Guess what? Zion is not destroyed and the war comes to a permanent end. Both Neo and Trinity die, though.]]
* ''Film/{{Knowing}}'' (2009) stars Creator/NicolasCage as a HollywoodAtheist who rushes around trying to find a way to prevent [[spoiler:(or personally survive) TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]], but by the end we see there was nothing he could have done to change it.
great plan.



* The Creator/SandraBullock film ''Film/{{Premonition}}'' mixes this trope with a partial TemporalParadox. In the future Linda sees, her husband Jim dies, she goes crazy, is suspected of hurting her daughter, and gets committed to an insane asylum. Her efforts to prevent Jim's death create Self-Fulfilling Prophecies, and the film's "happy" ending consists of a reveal that she was eventually released from the asylum, now pregnant with another child.
* In ''Film/SexAndDeath101'' (2008), the main character is emailed (by a MagicalComputer) a list of 101 women's names. It turns out to be a list of all the people he has slept with, or ''is going to sleep with'', before he dies. Initially, he thinks it's just a joke, as his current fiance happens to be #29 out of 101, but, regardless of how he tries to avoid it, he ends up sleeping with every woman on the list, in exactly the order in which they appear, and, to his dismay, the last name on the list happens to match that of a notorious FemmeFatale SerialKiller who seduces men before drugging them into permanent comas. [[spoiler: Indeed, she is the last woman he ever sleeps with, because [[ProphecyTwist they get married]] and live HappilyEverAfter.]]
* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' films, as a whole, are an example of this. In [[Film/TheTerminator the first movie]], Sarah Connor learns that the fate of her unborn child, John, is to lead the remaining humans against the machines AfterTheEnd; [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay the second movie]] is all about Sarah and John trying to stop the end from happening, and seemingly succeeding. However, both continuities which AlternateContinuity explain that Sarah's actions did not prevent, but only ''delayed'' the rise of [=SkyNet=] and the nuclear holocaust, from 1997 when it was originally supposed to happen, until 2004.
* ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'' is an excellent example.
** As is the film it's based on, Chris Marker's ''Film/LaJetee''.

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* [[{{Satan}} The Creator/SandraBullock film ''Film/{{Premonition}}'' mixes this trope Devil]] in the form of the Antichrist Franco Maccalusso in the ''Film/{{Apocalypse}}'' series knows he's doomed for the Lake Of Fire, and so decides to [[TakingYouWithMe take as many souls with a partial TemporalParadox. In him]] in the future Linda sees, her husband Jim dies, she goes crazy, is suspected of hurting her daughter, and gets committed to an insane asylum. Her efforts to prevent Jim's death create Self-Fulfilling Prophecies, and Tribulation through the film's "happy" ending consists of a reveal that she was eventually released from the asylum, now pregnant with another child.
MarkOfTheBeast.
* In ''Film/SexAndDeath101'' (2008), the main character is emailed (by a MagicalComputer) a list of 101 women's names. It turns out to be a list of all the people he has slept with, or ''is going to sleep with'', before he dies. Initially, he thinks it's just a joke, as his current fiance happens to be #29 out of 101, but, regardless of how he tries to avoid it, he ends up sleeping with every woman on the list, in exactly the order in which they appear, and, to his dismay, the last name on the list happens to match that of a notorious FemmeFatale SerialKiller who seduces men before drugging them into permanent comas. [[spoiler: Indeed, she This is the last woman he ever sleeps with, because [[ProphecyTwist they get married]] and live HappilyEverAfter.]]
* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' films, as a whole, are an example
whole plot of this. In [[Film/TheTerminator the first movie]], Sarah Connor learns that the fate of her unborn child, John, is to lead the remaining humans against the machines AfterTheEnd; [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay the second movie]] is all about Sarah and John trying to stop the end from happening, and seemingly succeeding. However, both continuities which AlternateContinuity explain that Sarah's actions did not prevent, but only ''delayed'' the rise of [=SkyNet=] and the nuclear holocaust, from 1997 when it was originally supposed to happen, until 2004.
* ''Film/TwelveMonkeys'' is an excellent example.
** As is the film it's based on, Chris Marker's ''Film/LaJetee''.
''Film/TheButterflyEffect''.



* The 2002 adaptation of ''Film/{{The Time Machine|2002}}''. Dr. Alexander Hartdegen creates a time machine to try to prevent his girlfriend from getting killed. She was mugged in Central Park, so they stop by a flower stand instead. But while Alexander is buying her flowers, she gets run over by a carriage. No matter how many times he travels back and does things differently, she always dies. This is later revealed to be because if she doesn't die, he'll never build the time machine in the first place, which would be a TemporalParadox.
* This is the whole plot of ''Film/TheButterflyEffect''.

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* The 2002 adaptation of ''Film/{{The Time Machine|2002}}''. Dr. Alexander Hartdegen creates ''Film/{{Knowing}}'' (2009) stars Creator/NicolasCage as a time machine HollywoodAtheist who rushes around trying to try find a way to prevent his girlfriend from getting killed. She [[spoiler:(or personally survive) TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]], but by the end we see there was mugged in Central Park, so nothing he could have done to change it.
* In the backstory of ''Film/{{Krull}}'', the Cyclops race made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal]] with The Beast:
they stop by a flower stand would trade one of their eyes in exchange for the ability to see the future. The Beast took their eyes and gave them the ability to see the future. Specifically, their future ''deaths''. Any Cyclops who tries to avoid their fated end always ends up dying in an even more painful way instead. But while Alexander is buying her flowers, she gets run over by a carriage. No matter how many times he travels back and does things differently, she always dies. This is later revealed to be The Cyclops Rell leaves the rest of the heroes near the end because if she doesn't die, he'll never build the his time machine in has come. [[spoiler:He goes back to help them anyway and holds open a pair of moving walls just long enough for the first place, which would be a TemporalParadox.
* This is
others to enter the whole plot of ''Film/TheButterflyEffect''.lair. Sadly, they are unable to save him as the walls slowly crush him to death.]]



* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin had foreseen his beloved Padmé's death and tried to find ways to prevent it, which led him to the dark side. Ultimately, he failed to prevent Padmé's death. Not only did he fail to prevent Padmé's death, he was the direct cause of it. She "gave up on life" because she had lost him to the dark side. Also, the force choking didn't help matters too much either.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'' as a whole. In Episode I, we find out that Anakin Skywalker (just a kid by then) is TheChosenOne, destined to bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith. At the end of Episode III, he does the opposite thing: he joins the Sith Lord, and helps him to destroy all the Jedi order as Darth Vader. Episodes IV, V and VI follow, and in the end Darth Vader kills the Sith Lord and dies shortly after... and thus the prophecy takes place: the Sith are no more, thanks to the actions of Anakin Skywalker.[[note]]And yet, it's the ultimate PyrrhicVictory. When Episode I began, there was a Jedi order of hundreds of members. By the end of Episode VI, all that remains is just a half-trained kid and a potential Jedi woman with no training at all.[[/note]]
* ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'':
-->'''Dr. Frederick Frankenstein:''' All right, you win. You win. I give. I'll say it. I'll say it. DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME! DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME!
* [[{{Satan}} The Devil]] in the form of the Antichrist Franco Maccalusso in the ''Film/{{Apocalypse}}'' series knows he's doomed for the Lake Of Fire, and so decides to [[TakingYouWithMe take as many souls with him]] in the Tribulation through the MarkOfTheBeast.
* The Prophecy in ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanOnStrangerTides'' states that a one-legged man will be the doom of Blackbeard. In the end, thats exactly what happened despite Blackbeard's efforts to try to reach out to the fountain of youth to avoid that fate.
* Deconstructed in ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau''. Destiny needs its little helpers (called "The Adjusters") to ensure the proper unfolding of the great plan.
* {{Discussed}} in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. Hank theorizes that the flow of reality eventually corrects itself, so one can't change the future by changing events in the past. [[AvertedTrope Averted]] when [[spoiler:Xavier decides to ScrewDestiny and succeeds.]]
** However ''Film/{{Logan}}'' suggests this trope may ultimately be played straight: Though set in the "Good Future" timeline, mutants are ''still'' apparently gone.

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* In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin had foreseen his beloved Padmé's death This is revealed to be the crux of ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' movies. Towards the end of ''Film/TheMatrixReloaded'', Neo finally reaches the "source" of the Matrix and tried to find ways to prevent it, which led him to meets the dark side. Ultimately, he failed to prevent Padmé's death. Not only did he fail to prevent Padmé's death, he was Architect, the direct cause of it. She "gave up on life" because she had lost him to computer program who designed the dark side. Also, the force choking didn't help matters too much either.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'' as a whole. In Episode I, we find out
Matrix. He informs Neo that Anakin Skywalker (just a kid by then) is TheChosenOne, destined to bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith. Zion will ultimately be destroyed and that it cannot be saved. At the end of Episode III, their conversation, he does also mentions that Neo's "destiny", like that of his five predecessors, was to enter the opposite thing: he joins source and restart the Sith Lord, program, allowing 23 humans to be selected to rebuild Zion. Thus, the "prophecy" will be fulfilled that after a century of warfare between humans and helps him to destroy all machines, the Jedi fight will finally come to an end. However, Neo would only be restarting the war, not ending it. Finally, the Architect mentions that Trinity will inevitably die in order as Darth Vader. Episodes IV, V and VI follow, and in the end Darth Vader kills the Sith Lord and dies shortly after... and thus the prophecy takes place: the Sith are no more, thanks to the actions of Anakin Skywalker.[[note]]And yet, it's the ultimate PyrrhicVictory. When Episode I began, save Neo. The Architect tells him that there was a Jedi order of hundreds of members. By the end of Episode VI, all is nothing he can do to stop that remains is just a half-trained kid from happening. In ''Film/TheMatrixRevolutions'', Neo tells the Oracle about the Architect's warnings, and a potential Jedi woman with no training at all.[[/note]]
* ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'':
-->'''Dr. Frederick Frankenstein:''' All right, you win. You win. I give. I'll say it. I'll say it. DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME! DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME!
* [[{{Satan}} The Devil]] in
she [[spoiler:responds that the form Architect is full of crap and can't predict the Antichrist Franco Maccalusso in future worth a damn. Guess what? Zion is not destroyed and the ''Film/{{Apocalypse}}'' series knows he's doomed for the Lake Of Fire, war comes to a permanent end. Both Neo and so decides to [[TakingYouWithMe take as many souls with him]] in the Tribulation through the MarkOfTheBeast.
Trinity die, though.]]
* The Prophecy in ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanOnStrangerTides'' states that a one-legged man will be the doom of Blackbeard. In the end, thats that's exactly what happened despite Blackbeard's efforts to try to reach out to the fountain of youth to avoid that fate.
* Deconstructed in ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau''. Destiny needs its little helpers (called "The Adjusters") to ensure The Creator/SandraBullock film ''Film/{{Premonition}}'' mixes this trope with a partial TemporalParadox. In the proper unfolding future Linda sees, her husband Jim dies, she goes crazy, is suspected of hurting her daughter, and gets committed to an insane asylum. Her efforts to prevent Jim's death create Self-Fulfilling Prophecies, and the great plan.
* {{Discussed}} in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. Hank theorizes
film's "happy" ending consists of a reveal that the flow of reality she was eventually corrects itself, so one can't change released from the future by changing events in asylum, now pregnant with another child.
* In ''Film/SexAndDeath101'' (2008),
the past. [[AvertedTrope Averted]] when [[spoiler:Xavier decides main character is emailed (by a MagicalComputer) a list of 101 women's names. It turns out to ScrewDestiny be a list of all the people he has slept with, or ''is going to sleep with'', before he dies. Initially, he thinks it's just a joke, as his current fiance happens to be #29 out of 101, but, regardless of how he tries to avoid it, he ends up sleeping with every woman on the list, in exactly the order in which they appear, and, to his dismay, the last name on the list happens to match that of a notorious FemmeFatale SerialKiller who seduces men before drugging them into permanent comas. [[spoiler: Indeed, she is the last woman he ever sleeps with, because [[ProphecyTwist they get married]] and succeeds.]]
** However ''Film/{{Logan}}'' suggests this trope may ultimately be played straight: Though set in the "Good Future" timeline, mutants are ''still'' apparently gone.
live HappilyEverAfter.]]



* ''Franchise/StarWars'' as a whole. In [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Episode I]], we find out that Anakin Skywalker (just a kid by then) is TheChosenOne, destined to bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith. At the end of Episode III, he does the opposite thing: he joins the Sith Lord, and helps him to destroy all the Jedi order as Darth Vader. [[Film/ANewHope Episodes IV]], [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack V]] and [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi VI]] follow, and in the end Darth Vader kills the Sith Lord and dies shortly after... and thus the prophecy takes place: the Sith are no more, thanks to the actions of Anakin Skywalker.[[note]]And yet, it's the ultimate PyrrhicVictory. When Episode I began, there was a Jedi order of hundreds of members. By the end of Episode VI, all that remains is just a half-trained kid and a potential Jedi woman with no training at all.[[/note]]
** In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Anakin had foreseen his beloved Padmé's death and tried to find ways to prevent it, which led him to the dark side. Ultimately, he failed to prevent Padmé's death. Not only did he fail to prevent Padmé's death, he was the direct cause of it. She "gave up on life" because she had lost him to the dark side. Also, the force choking didn't help matters too much either.
* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' films, as a whole, are an example of this. In [[Film/TheTerminator the first movie]], Sarah Connor learns that the fate of her unborn child, John, is to lead the remaining humans against the machines AfterTheEnd; [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay the second movie]] is all about Sarah and John trying to stop the end from happening, and seemingly succeeding. However, both continuities which AlternateContinuity explain that Sarah's actions did not prevent, but only ''delayed'' the rise of [=SkyNet=] and the nuclear holocaust, from 1997 when it was originally supposed to happen, until 2004.



* In the backstory of ''Film/{{Krull}}'', the Cyclops race made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal]] with The Beast: they would trade one of their eyes in exchange for the ability to see the future. The Beast took their eyes and gave them the ability to see the future. Specifically, their future ''deaths''. Any Cyclops who tries to avoid their fated end always ends up dying in an even more painful way instead. The Cyclops Rell leaves the rest of the heroes near the end because his time has come. [[spoiler:He goes back to help them anyway and holds open a pair of moving walls just long enough for the others to enter the lair. Sadly, they are unable to save him as the walls slowly crush him to death.]]

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* In the backstory of ''Film/{{Krull}}'', the Cyclops race made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal]] with The Beast: 2002 adaptation of ''Film/{{The Time Machine|2002}}''. Dr. Alexander Hartdegen creates a time machine to try to prevent his girlfriend from getting killed. She was mugged in Central Park, so they would trade one of their eyes in exchange for the ability to see the future. The Beast took their eyes and gave them the ability to see the future. Specifically, their future ''deaths''. Any Cyclops who tries to avoid their fated end always ends up dying in an even more painful way stop by a flower stand instead. The Cyclops Rell leaves the rest of the heroes near the end But while Alexander is buying her flowers, she gets run over by a carriage. No matter how many times he travels back and does things differently, she always dies. This is later revealed to be because his if she doesn't die, he'll never build the time has come. [[spoiler:He goes back machine in the first place, which would be a TemporalParadox.
* {{Discussed}} in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. Hank theorizes that the flow of reality eventually corrects itself, so one can't change the future by changing events in the past. [[AvertedTrope Averted]] when [[spoiler:Xavier decides
to help them anyway ScrewDestiny and holds open a pair of moving walls just long enough for succeeds.]]
** However ''Film/{{Logan}}'' suggests this trope may ultimately be played straight: Though set in
the others to enter the lair. Sadly, they "Good Future" timeline, mutants are unable to save him as the walls slowly crush him to death.]]''still'' apparently gone.
* ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'':
-->'''Dr. Frederick Frankenstein:''' All right, you win. You win. I give. I'll say it. I'll say it. DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME! DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME!



* ''Series/DarkOracle'': Attempts at preventing the comic's predictions from coming true inevitably result in a SelfFulfillingProphecy.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** First discussed in the First Doctor story [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E6TheAztecs "The Aztecs"]]. Barbara is mistaken for a high priestess, yet refuses to sacrifice a man in the hope it will reform the Aztecs and the Conquistadores won't feel justified in destroying them. However, the man believes it's the will of the gods and commits suicide instead.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E3Frontios "Frontios"]], Turlough has Norna pick a hand and when that chosen hand has a good luck piece in, claims that it clearly shows that he can't fight destiny. In fact, he had one in both hands, because he knew what he ought to do.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay "Father's Day"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan "The Angels Take Manhattan"]] further clarify this: you can change the future all you want . . . unless you know it. Once you know something is going to happen, you can't change it, even if somebody who doesn't know still can.
** The Time Lords of Gallifrey (currently personified in one remaining member) are able to see the bend and flow of space-time to the point that they know when an event inevitably MUST happen in the grand cosmic scheme, and when certain things are permissibly malleable. The latter fact results in Donna convincing the Doctor to save a Roman family that they've befriended in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E2TheFiresOfPompeii Pompeii]] in 79 CE, even while he will not stop the [[RealLife eruption of Mt. Vesuvius]], no matter how many may be perishing. [[note]] Incidentally, the Doctor ''caused'' the eruption as a lesser of two evils. [[/note]]
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E16TheWatersOfMars "The Waters of Mars"]] the Doctor handles a fixed point differently, instead breaking his own rules and challenging time. [[FromBadToWorse Everything then goes wrong]] and the woman he saved kills herself to stop him.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]]: "[[ArcWords He will knock four times and then you will die.]]" There were an awful lot of dangerous but non-deadly four-beat noises before the end came.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E13TheWeddingOfRiverSong "The Wedding of River Song"]]: River's attempt to stop the Doctor's death. It was a fixed point in time and, when it failed to happen, time literally began to disintegrate.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor "The Time of the Doctor"]], this is invoked as part of the StableTimeLoop that explains why the Kovarian sect of the Silence couldn't stop the Doctor. In particular, they mention the attempt to steal the TARDIS and blow it up, which actually opened the very crack in the universe that the Time Lords are using to relay their distress call, leading the Doctor to Trenzalore and causing the war to occur in the first place.
--->'''The Doctor:''' The Destiny Trap. You can't change history if you're a part of it.
* The entire point of ''Series/{{Flash Forward|2009}}'''s plot, where everyone on earth blacks out and, if they survived, sees a FlashForward of themselves six months into the future (except for Film/{{Harold and Kumar|GoToWhiteCastle}}). For instance, Joseph Fienne's character sees that he's on a taskforce to find the source of the blackouts, and when he wakes up his investigations land him on...a taskforce to discover the source of the blackouts.
** Subverted when Harold's character, Demetri, survives March 15, the day that he was predicted to have been killed. The episode still plays it straight with villain Dyson Frost (who also predicted his own death on that date) dies.
** Olivia highlights a major piece of FridgeLogic: since the flash forwards are everyone's precise vision of the same 2-minute period, you can avert your flash forward simply by ensuring that on April 29th you are as far away from where you saw yourself in your vision.
** [[ZigZaggingTrope Quadruple-subverted]] with the Blue Hand Group: people who didn't have flash forwards since they'll be dead before April 29th and engage in risky behavior, as they think they have nothing to live for. When some of them live because others decided to ScrewDestiny, their members start dying before April 29th anyway, in the same manner as they were predicted to. Lloyd thinks its [[OntologicalInertia fate trying to correct discrepancies]] but it turns out to be [[spoiler: the Blue Hand's former leader doing what he thinks is fate's work.]] [[DoubleSubversion Double-subverted]] ''again'' when the FBI tries to [[spoiler: stop him from running over his last victim, only for one agent to accidentally hit her with her car]], proving Lloyd's theory that if you prevent your flash forward, someone else will just take your place in the sequence of events.
* In the ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' two part adventure "Armageddon Now", Callisto goes back in time to prevent who she thinks was Series/{{Xena|WarriorPrincess}} (because her army was in the village) from killing her parents. While trying to protect her family from Xena's army, the adult Callisto accidentally kills her own father & mother.



* The grim and [[TearJerker sad]] conclusion that Ted and Lily in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' come to in "Band or DJ" when they admit to each other that [[spoiler: there are times when Lily wished she wasn't a mother and Ted wished Robin was marrying him instead of Barney.]]
* Miyuki Tezuka/Kamen Rider Raia from ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki'', a psychic who claims his visions are always accurate, believes this. [[spoiler:When he foresees the death of his friend Shinji Kido/Ryuki, however, he lies and tells Shinji that he foresaw his own death. During a later battle, Miyuki [[TakingTheBullet takes the metaphorical bullet]] for Shinji, averting his own prediction but turning his lie into a SelfFulfillingProphecy.]]
* In ''{{Series/Lexx}}'', time is forever looping and repeating itself identically. The Time Prophet, whose predictions drive several plot points, cannot actually see the future; what she sees is actually the events of a previous loop. This does not stop some from trying to avert prophecy, particularly the first-season villain, His Divine Shadow. [[spoiler:He fails.]]



* In the pilot of ''Series/{{Merlin}}'', Merlin is told that it is his fate to protect [[TheChosenZero Arthur]]. Since he has a less than stellar opinion of him, he avoids him for the rest of the day. Then nighttime comes and an enchantress puts the court to sleep and throws a knife at Arthur. Merlin pulls him out of the way without thinking. By the time he's realized who he rescued, the king has made him the prince's new manservant as a "reward".
** The entirety of the last season. In the first episode, [[spoiler:Merlin is shown a vision of Arthur being fatally wounded by Mordred. Try as he might, he ultimately failed in preventing it and actually cemented its coming through his actions.]]



* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode Cassandra provided a perfect example with a computer that could tell the future. After it had foretold that certain characters would be left alive, a gun was pointed in their face and the trigger pulled; naturally, it jammed. When pointed at another character who she foretold would die, it worked perfectly. This trope was then used almost word for word to seduce another character, since the computer had foretold he'd die while having sex with her. (When her boyfriend caught them in the act) But in the end, it turned out she was lying to cause jealousy. She foresaw that the boyfriend would kill her. He realized this and tried to avoid it, saying he wasn't going to kill her, but through a Rube Goldberg series of events ends up killing her anyway.

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* "A Determined Woman", an episode of the DawnFrench comedy anthology series ''Series/MurderMostHorrid'', tells the tragicomic story of an inventor (French) working on a time machine, who gets so annoyed with her idiot husband disrupting her work that she hits him with a spanner, a little harder than she intended ... some years later, after serving time for his manslaughter, she completes her time machine and goes back to try and save him, only to discover that her attempts to prevent his death were what caused it in the first place.
* Episode 6 of ''Series/MythQuest'' sees Alex wanting to change the outcome of Lancelot and Guinevere's affair. When he asks Merlin about it, he says "Never had much luck changing fate. You throw a rock in the river, and the water just sort of... moves around it."
* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'' had its own tendency to mess with this concept. "Gettysburg" is a great example. A mysterious time traveler, who had appeared in previous episodes, returns. However, this time, instead of attempting to arrange "justice" against villains from the past while remaining consistent with recorded history, he is attempting to directly change what happened. Specifically, he hopes to avoid the assassination of the first black president in 2013, regarded as one of America's greatest leaders, by a Southern Sympathizer whose beliefs are all tied up in the Glory of the Confederacy. The time traveler sends the guy back from a Gettysburg re-enactment to the real battle where he serves under an insane commander and faces the true harshness of the war and his supported side. He learns his lesson, and comes face-to-face with his ancestor, whose self-serving cowardice contradicts the impressive legend that he had idolized during his youth, and he rejects extremism and the no-longer noble rebellion against the government. However, the insane commander from Gettysburg is accidently transported to the 2013 date and, while trying to kill "Lincoln" (in truth, an impersonator at the memorial event), manages to assassinate the president anyway.
* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' features a variant across several series- you ''can'' change the future, but it makes things worse. [[FromBadToWorse Much worse.]] In ''Series/PowerRangersTurbo'', a robot goes back in time to prevent a war that was to happen two years later. It happened the next year instead. To say that [[Series/PowerRangersInSpace the war]] ended well is [[BittersweetEnding lying]].
** For a Sentai example, the original Sixth Ranger Burai of ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' is told shortly after his introduction that he will die in 40 hours. This can be halted for awhile so long as he doesn't try to fight the bad guys but he needs to save the others often and whenever he does more of his remaining time ticks away. Every moment he appears in has somebody trying to find a way to prevent this, but they eventually find out that no, not even the gods can save him, his time has come. Sure enough he dies shortly before the finale, although he managed to make peace with himself and his impending death and dies with no regrets.
*** Another variant for another Sentai is another Sixth Ranger of ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'' [=TimeFire=] who is also destined to die. Here it's not as specific. [=TimeFire=] will die, but as the ranger and not the person, meaning anybody could fulfill this destiny as [=TimeFire=]. The original [=TimeFire=] found this out and did his best to make sure somebody else took over for him ASAP. Sure enough the new [=TimeFire=] dies in the battle he was destined to die in, but the original's selfish scheme is discovered by the other Rangers, who promptly kill him anyway.
*** In ''Series/MahouSentaiMagiranger'' any time prophetic flashes, visions, or just straight up prophecies are brought up, they will come true. But once they have come true, there's nothing to stop anyone from undoing them.
* ''Series/QuantumLeap'' played with this. In each episode, Sam's goal was to fight a particular piece of fate, and he invariably won. However, when he and Al occasionally tried to change other things in their own personal interest, they were unable to do so. For example, in ''MIA'', [[spoiler:Al lied to Sam about what his goal was, and had him try to stop Al's own wife Beth from remarrying while he was a prisoner of war. Whatever Sam did to keep Beth away from her future second husband, they kept bumping into each other in unlikely places. Sam was actually there to stop a cop getting shot.]] In ''The Leap Home, Part 1'', [[spoiler:Sam could not convince his father to take up a healthier lifestyle and live longer, or stop his brother from going to Vietnam and getting killed, because his only goal for the episode was to ''win a basketball game''.]] It seems the Unknown Force only unlocked little bits of fate at a time. [[spoiler:Sam did save both his brother's life and Al's marriage in later episodes, though.]]
* On ''Series/{{Reaper}}'', one guy manages to weasel out of his DealWithTheDevil. [[spoiler: The Devil gets his soul anyway.]]
* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode Cassandra "Cassandra" provided a perfect example with a computer that could tell the future. After it had foretold that certain characters would be left alive, a gun was pointed in their face and the trigger pulled; naturally, it jammed. When pointed at another character who she foretold would die, it worked perfectly. This trope was then used almost word for word to seduce another character, since the computer had foretold he'd die while having sex with her. (When her boyfriend caught them in the act) But in the end, it turned out she was lying to cause jealousy. She foresaw that the boyfriend would kill her. He realized this and tried to avoid it, saying he wasn't going to kill her, but through a Rube Goldberg series of events ends up killing her anyway.



* In ''Franchise/StarTrek'', if you attempt [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation The Kobayashi Maru]] scenario, it will result in failure, no matter what you do. [[spoiler: Unless you [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome hack the simulation program.]]]]
** You can also refuse to do the main part of the simulation claiming it's a trap.



* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' features a variant across several series- you ''can'' change the future, but it makes things worse. [[FromBadToWorse Much worse.]] In ''Series/PowerRangersTurbo'', a robot goes back in time to prevent a war that was to happen two years later. It happened the next year instead. To say that [[Series/PowerRangersInSpace the war]] ended well is [[BittersweetEnding lying]].
** For a Sentai example, the original Sixth Ranger Burai of ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' is told shortly after his introduction that he will die in 40 hours. This can be halted for awhile so long as he doesn't try to fight the bad guys but he needs to save the others often and whenever he does more of his remaining time ticks away. Every moment he appears in has somebody trying to find a way to prevent this, but they eventually find out that no, not even the gods can save him, his time has come. Sure enough he dies shortly before the finale, although he managed to make peace with himself and his impending death and dies with no regrets.
*** Another variant for another Sentai is another Sixth Ranger of ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'' [=TimeFire=] who is also destined to die. Here it's not as specific. [=TimeFire=] will die, but as the ranger and not the person, meaning anybody could fulfill this destiny as [=TimeFire=]. The original [=TimeFire=] found this out and did his best to make sure somebody else took over for him ASAP. Sure enough the new [=TimeFire=] dies in the battle he was destined to die in, but the original's selfish scheme is discovered by the other Rangers, who promptly kill him anyway.
*** In ''Series/MahouSentaiMagiranger'' any time prophetic flashes, visions, or just straight up prophecies are brought up, they will come true. But once they have come true, there's nothing to stop anyone from undoing them.
* In ''Franchise/StarTrek'', if you attempt [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation The Kobayashi Maru]] scenario, it will result in failure, no matter what you do. [[spoiler: Unless you [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome hack the simulation program.]]]]
** You can also refuse to do the main part of the simulation claiming it's a trap.
* On ''Series/{{Reaper}}'', one guy manages to weasel out of his DealWithTheDevil. [[spoiler: The Devil gets his soul anyway.]]

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* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' features a variant across several series- you ''can'' change ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' twists the future, but it makes things worse. [[FromBadToWorse Much worse.]] In ''Series/PowerRangersTurbo'', a robot goes back whole notion around at the end of the second season: [[spoiler:John travels forward in time to prevent a war that was to happen two years later. It happened the next year instead. To say that [[Series/PowerRangersInSpace the war]] ended well is [[BittersweetEnding lying]].
** For a Sentai example, the original Sixth Ranger Burai of ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' is told shortly after his introduction
past Judgment Day, and discovers that he will die in 40 hours. This can be halted for awhile so long as he doesn't try to fight the bad guys but he needs to save the others often was superfluous; humanity is still around and whenever he does more of his remaining time ticks away. Every moment he appears in has somebody trying to find a way to prevent this, but they eventually find out that no, not even the gods can save him, his time has come. Sure enough he dies shortly before the finale, although he managed to make peace with himself and his impending death and dies with no regrets.
*** Another variant for another Sentai is another Sixth Ranger of ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'' [=TimeFire=] who is also destined to die. Here it's not as specific. [=TimeFire=] will die, but as the ranger and not the person, meaning anybody could fulfill this destiny as [=TimeFire=]. The original [=TimeFire=] found this out and did his best to make sure somebody else took over for him ASAP. Sure enough the new [=TimeFire=] dies in the battle he was destined to die in, but the original's selfish scheme is discovered by the other Rangers, who promptly kill him anyway.
*** In ''Series/MahouSentaiMagiranger'' any time prophetic flashes, visions, or just straight up prophecies are brought up, they will come true. But once they have come true, there's nothing to stop anyone from undoing them.
* In ''Franchise/StarTrek'', if you attempt [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation The Kobayashi Maru]] scenario, it will result in failure, no matter what you do. [[spoiler: Unless you [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome hack the simulation program.]]]]
** You can also refuse to do the main part of the simulation claiming it's a trap.
* On ''Series/{{Reaper}}'', one guy manages to weasel out of his DealWithTheDevil. [[spoiler: The Devil gets his soul anyway.
kicking without him.]]



* In the ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' two part adventure "Armageddon Now", Callisto goes back in time to prevent who she thinks was Series/{{Xena|WarriorPrincess}} (because her army was in the village) from killing her parents. While trying to protect her family from Xena's army, the adult Callisto accidentally kills her own father & mother.
* The entire point of ''Series/{{Flash Forward|2009}}'''s plot, where everyone on earth blacks out and, if they survived, sees a FlashForward of themselves six months into the future (except for Film/{{Harold and Kumar|GoToWhiteCastle}}). For instance, Joseph Fienne's character sees that he's on a taskforce to find the source of the blackouts, and when he wakes up his investigations land him on...a taskforce to discover the source of the blackouts.
** Subverted when Harold's character, Demetri, survives March 15, the day that he was predicted to have been killed. The episode still plays it straight with villain Dyson Frost (who also predicted his own death on that date) dies.
** Olivia highlights a major piece of FridgeLogic: since the flash forwards are everyone's precise vision of the same 2-minute period, you can avert your flash forward simply by ensuring that on April 29th you are as far away from where you saw yourself in your vision.
** [[ZigZaggingTrope Quadruple-subverted]] with the Blue Hand Group: people who didn't have flash forwards since they'll be dead before April 29th and engage in risky behavior, as they think they have nothing to live for. When some of them live because others decided to ScrewDestiny, their members start dying before April 29th anyway, in the same manner as they were predicted to. Lloyd thinks its [[OntologicalInertia fate trying to correct discrepancies]] but it turns out to be [[spoiler: the Blue Hand's former leader doing what he thinks is fate's work.]] [[DoubleSubversion Double-subverted]] ''again'' when the FBI tries to [[spoiler: stop him from running over his last victim, only for one agent to accidentally hit her with her car]], proving Lloyd's theory that if you prevent your flash forward, someone else will just take your place in the sequence of events.
* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'' had its own tendency to mess with this concept. "Gettysburg" is a great example. A mysterious time traveler, who had appeared in previous episodes, returns. However, this time, instead of attempting to arrange "justice" against villains from the past while remaining consistent with recorded history, he is attempting to directly change what happened. Specifically, he hopes to avoid the assassination of the first black president in 2013, regarded as one of America's greatest leaders, by a Southern Sympathizer whose beliefs are all tied up in the Glory of the Confederacy. The time traveler sends the guy back from a Gettysburg re-enactment to the real battle where he serves under an insane commander and faces the true harshness of the war and his supported side. He learns his lesson, and comes face-to-face with his ancestor, whose self-serving cowardice contradicts the impressive legend that he had idolized during his youth, and he rejects extremism and the no-longer noble rebellion against the government. However, the insane commander from Gettysburg is accidently transported to the 2013 date and, while trying to kill "Lincoln" (in truth, an impersonator at the memorial event), manages to assassinate the president anyway.
* "A Determined Woman", an episode of the DawnFrench comedy anthology series ''Series/MurderMostHorrid'', tells the tragicomic story of an inventor (French) working on a time machine, who gets so annoyed with her idiot husband disrupting her work that she hits him with a spanner, a little harder than she intended...some years later, after serving time for his manslaughter, she completes her time machine and goes back to try and save him, only to discover that her attempts to prevent his death were what caused it in the first place.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** First discussed in the First Doctor story, ''The Aztecs''. Barbara is mistaken for a high priestess, yet refuses to sacrifice a man in the hope it will reform the Aztecs and the Conquistadores won't feel justified in destroying them. However, the man believes it's the will of the gods and commits suicide instead.
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E3Frontios Frontios]]'', Turlough has Norna pick a hand and when that chosen hand has a good luck piece in, claims that it clearly shows that he can't fight destiny. In fact, he had one in both hands, because he knew what he ought to do.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay "Father's Day"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan "The Angels Take Manhattan"]] further clarify this: you can change the future all you want... unless you know it. Once you know something is going to happen, you can't change it, even if somebody who doesn't know still can.
** The Time Lords of Gallifrey (currently personified in one remaining member) are able to see the bend and flow of space-time to the point that they know when an event inevitably MUST happen in the grand cosmic scheme, and when certain things are permissibly malleable. The latter fact results in Donna convincing the Doctor to save a Roman family that they've befriended in Pompeii in 79 CE, even while he will not stop the [[RealLife eruption of Mt. Vesuvius]], no matter how many may be perishing. [[note]] Incidentally, the Doctor ''caused'' the eruption as a lesser of two evils. [[/note]]
** In "The Waters of Mars" the Doctor handles a "fixed point" differently, instead breaking his own rules and challenging time. [[FromBadToWorse Everything then goes wrong]] and the woman he saved kills herself to stop him.
** "[[ArcWords He will knock four times and then you will die.]]" There were an awful lot of dangerous but non-deadly four-beat noises before the end came.
** River's attempt to stop the Doctor's death. It was a fixed point in time and, when it failed to happen, time literally began to disintegrate.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor "The Time of the Doctor"]], this is invoked as part of the StableTimeLoop that explains why the Kovarian sect of the Silence couldn't stop the Doctor. In particular, they mention the attempt to steal the TARDIS and blow it up, which actually opened the very crack in the universe that the Time Lords are using to relay their distress call, leading the Doctor to Trenzalore and causing the war to occur in the first place.
--->'''The Doctor:''' The Destiny Trap. You can't change history if you're a part of it.
* Miyuki Tezuka/Kamen Rider Raia from ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki'', a psychic who claims his visions are always accurate, believes this. [[spoiler:When he foresees the death of his friend Shinji Kido/Ryuki, however, he lies and tells Shinji that he foresaw his own death. During a later battle, Miyuki [[TakingTheBullet takes the metaphorical bullet]] for Shinji, averting his own prediction but turning his lie into a SelfFulfillingProphecy.]]
* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Synchrony" presents the case of a strange old man warning an MIT student and professor that the student is going to die at a specific time - because of this warning the professor, attempting to save the student, ends up accidentally pushing him into the path of an oncoming bus and thus the warning is a SelfFulfillingProphecy. The old man is [[spoiler: actually the professor from the future, who has traveled back in time]] attempting to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong Set Right What Will Go Wrong]] and prevent an impending scientific breakthrough [[spoiler: that would be made by the professor in collaboration with his girlfriend, also a scientist, and the student, and which would be a catalyst for a catastrophic technological development.]] Mulder cites an old theory of Scully's about how the future can't be altered, and so the old man's efforts are probably doomed. [[spoiler: Although the professor manages to kill both his present and future selves and erase all of his files, as the episode ends, the girlfriend is continuing the research on her own with backups of the erased data.]]
** And said scientific breakthrough? [[spoiler:Something enabling TimeTravel itself. What goes wrong is that it generalized knowledge of the future and knowledge that it can't be changed]].
* In ''TheUnusuals'' episode "42" Detective Banks has to keep saving a woman who foresees several bus robberies and tries to die during one (and tries again, and again, because Banks keeps saving her) because she believes she's fated to do so. He finally convinces her that you make your own fate, only for her to die in a bus crash at like 11:50pm.

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* In the ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' two part adventure "Armageddon Now", Callisto goes back in time to prevent who she thinks was Series/{{Xena|WarriorPrincess}} (because her army was in the village) from killing her parents. While trying to protect her family from Xena's army, the adult Callisto accidentally kills her own father & mother.
* The entire point of ''Series/{{Flash Forward|2009}}'''s plot, where everyone on earth blacks out and, if they survived, sees a FlashForward of themselves six months into the future (except for Film/{{Harold and Kumar|GoToWhiteCastle}}). For instance, Joseph Fienne's character sees that he's on a taskforce to find the source of the blackouts, and when he wakes up his investigations land him on...a taskforce to discover the source of the blackouts.
** Subverted when Harold's character, Demetri, survives March 15, the day that he was predicted to have been killed. The episode still plays it straight with villain Dyson Frost (who also predicted his own death on that date) dies.
** Olivia highlights a major piece of FridgeLogic: since the flash forwards are everyone's precise vision of the same 2-minute period, you can avert your flash forward simply by ensuring that on April 29th you are as far away from where you saw yourself in your vision.
** [[ZigZaggingTrope Quadruple-subverted]] with the Blue Hand Group: people who didn't have flash forwards since they'll be dead before April 29th and engage in risky behavior, as they think they have nothing to live for. When some of them live because others decided to ScrewDestiny, their members start dying before April 29th anyway, in the same manner as they were predicted to. Lloyd thinks its [[OntologicalInertia fate trying to correct discrepancies]] but it turns out to be [[spoiler: the Blue Hand's former leader doing what he thinks is fate's work.]] [[DoubleSubversion Double-subverted]] ''again'' when the FBI tries to [[spoiler: stop him from running over his last victim, only for one agent to accidentally hit her with her car]], proving Lloyd's theory that if you prevent your flash forward, someone else will just take your place in the sequence of events.
* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'' had its own tendency to mess with this concept. "Gettysburg" is a great example. A mysterious time traveler, who had appeared in previous episodes, returns. However, this time, instead of attempting to arrange "justice" against villains from the past while remaining consistent with recorded history, he is attempting to directly change what happened. Specifically, he hopes to avoid the assassination of the first black president in 2013, regarded as one of America's greatest leaders, by a Southern Sympathizer whose beliefs are all tied up in the Glory of the Confederacy. The time traveler sends the guy back from a Gettysburg re-enactment to the real battle where he serves under an insane commander and faces the true harshness of the war and his supported side. He learns his lesson, and comes face-to-face with his ancestor, whose self-serving cowardice contradicts the impressive legend that he had idolized during his youth, and he rejects extremism and the no-longer noble rebellion against the government. However, the insane commander from Gettysburg is accidently transported to the 2013 date and, while trying to kill "Lincoln" (in truth, an impersonator at the memorial event), manages to assassinate the president anyway.
* "A Determined Woman", an episode of the DawnFrench comedy anthology series ''Series/MurderMostHorrid'', tells the tragicomic story of an inventor (French) working on a time machine, who gets so annoyed with her idiot husband disrupting her work that she hits him with a spanner, a little harder than she intended...some years later, after serving time for his manslaughter, she completes her time machine and goes back to try and save him, only to discover that her attempts to prevent his death were what caused it in the first place.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** First discussed in the First Doctor story, ''The Aztecs''. Barbara is mistaken for a high priestess, yet refuses to sacrifice a man in the hope it will reform the Aztecs and the Conquistadores won't feel justified in destroying them. However, the man believes it's the will of the gods and commits suicide instead.
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E3Frontios Frontios]]'', Turlough has Norna pick a hand and when that chosen hand has a good luck piece in, claims that it clearly shows that he can't fight destiny. In fact, he had one in both hands, because he knew what he ought to do.
** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay "Father's Day"]] and [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan "The Angels Take Manhattan"]] further clarify this: you can change the future all you want... unless you know it. Once you know something is going to happen, you can't change it, even if somebody who doesn't know still can.
** The Time Lords of Gallifrey (currently personified in one remaining member) are able to see the bend and flow of space-time to the point that they know when an event inevitably MUST happen in the grand cosmic scheme, and when certain things are permissibly malleable. The latter fact results in Donna convincing the Doctor to save a Roman family that they've befriended in Pompeii in 79 CE, even while he will not stop the [[RealLife eruption of Mt. Vesuvius]], no matter how many may be perishing. [[note]] Incidentally, the Doctor ''caused'' the eruption as a lesser of two evils. [[/note]]
** In "The Waters of Mars" the Doctor handles a "fixed point" differently, instead breaking his own rules and challenging time. [[FromBadToWorse Everything then goes wrong]] and the woman he saved kills herself to stop him.
** "[[ArcWords He will knock four times and then you will die.]]" There were an awful lot of dangerous but non-deadly four-beat noises before the end came.
** River's attempt to stop the Doctor's death. It was a fixed point in time and, when it failed to happen, time literally began to disintegrate.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor "The Time of the Doctor"]], this is invoked as part of the StableTimeLoop that explains why the Kovarian sect of the Silence couldn't stop the Doctor. In particular, they mention the attempt to steal the TARDIS and blow it up, which actually opened the very crack in the universe that the Time Lords are using to relay their distress call, leading the Doctor to Trenzalore and causing the war to occur in the first place.
--->'''The Doctor:''' The Destiny Trap. You can't change history if you're a part of it.
* Miyuki Tezuka/Kamen Rider Raia from ''Series/KamenRiderRyuki'', a psychic who claims his visions are always accurate, believes this. [[spoiler:When he foresees the death of his friend Shinji Kido/Ryuki, however, he lies and tells Shinji that he foresaw his own death. During a later battle, Miyuki [[TakingTheBullet takes the metaphorical bullet]] for Shinji, averting his own prediction but turning his lie into a SelfFulfillingProphecy.]]
* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Synchrony" presents the case of a strange old man warning an MIT student and professor that the student is going to die at a specific time - because of this warning the professor, attempting to save the student, ends up accidentally pushing him into the path of an oncoming bus and thus the warning is a SelfFulfillingProphecy. The old man is [[spoiler: actually the professor from the future, who has traveled back in time]] attempting to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong Set Right What Will Go Wrong]] and prevent an impending scientific breakthrough [[spoiler: that would be made by the professor in collaboration with his girlfriend, also a scientist, and the student, and which would be a catalyst for a catastrophic technological development.]] Mulder cites an old theory of Scully's about how the future can't be altered, and so the old man's efforts are probably doomed. [[spoiler: Although the professor manages to kill both his present and future selves and erase all of his files, as the episode ends, the girlfriend is continuing the research on her own with backups of the erased data.]]
** And said scientific breakthrough? [[spoiler:Something enabling TimeTravel itself. What goes wrong is that it generalized knowledge of the future and knowledge that it can't be changed]].
* In ''TheUnusuals''
''Series/TheUnusuals'' episode "42" Detective Banks has to keep saving a woman who foresees several bus robberies and tries to die during one (and tries again, and again, because Banks keeps saving her) because she believes she's fated to do so. He finally convinces her that you make your own fate, only for her to die in a bus crash at like 11:50pm.



* In ''Series/TheWorstYearOfMyLifeAgain'', Alex finds himself reliving the previous year. Although he tries to change things to make it go better for him, either the same things happen in a different way or something even ''worse'' happens.



* ''Series/DarkOracle'': Attempts at preventing the comic's predictions from coming true inevitably result in a SelfFulfillingProphecy.
* ''Series/QuantumLeap'' played with this. In each episode, Sam's goal was to fight a particular piece of fate, and he invariably won. However, when he and Al occasionally tried to change other things in their own personal interest, they were unable to do so. For example, in ''MIA'', [[spoiler:Al lied to Sam about what his goal was, and had him try to stop Al's own wife Beth from remarrying while he was a prisoner of war. Whatever Sam did to keep Beth away from her future second husband, they kept bumping into each other in unlikely places. Sam was actually there to stop a cop getting shot.]] In ''The Leap Home, Part 1'', [[spoiler:Sam could not convince his father to take up a healthier lifestyle and live longer, or stop his brother from going to Vietnam and getting killed, because his only goal for the episode was to ''win a basketball game''.]] It seems the Unknown Force only unlocked little bits of fate at a time. [[spoiler:Sam did save both his brother's life and Al's marriage in later episodes, though.]]
* In the pilot of ''Series/{{Merlin}}'', Merlin is told that it is his fate to protect [[TheChosenZero Arthur]]. Since he has a less than stellar opinion of him, he avoids him for the rest of the day. Then nighttime comes and an enchantress puts the court to sleep and throws a knife at Arthur. Merlin pulls him out of the way without thinking. By the time he's realized who he rescued, the king has made him the prince's new manservant as a "reward".
** The entirety of the last season. In the first episode, [[spoiler:Merlin is shown a vision of Arthur being fatally wounded by Mordred. Try as he might, he ultimately failed in preventing it and actually cemented its coming through his actions.]]
* The grim and [[TearJerker sad]] conclusion that Ted and Lily in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' come to in "Band or DJ" when they admit to each other that [[spoiler: there are times when Lily wished she wasn't a mother and Ted wished Robin was marrying him instead of Barney.]]
* Episode 6 of ''Series/MythQuest'' sees Alex wanting to change the outcome of Lancelot and Guinevere's affair. When he asks Merlin about it, he says "Never had much luck changing fate. You throw a rock in the river, and the water just sort of... moves around it."
* In ''{{Series/Lexx}}'', time is forever looping and repeating itself identically. The Time Prophet, whose predictions drive several plot points, cannot actually see the future; what she sees is actually the events of a previous loop. This does not stop some from trying to avert prophecy, particularly the first-season villain, His Divine Shadow. [[spoiler:He fails.]]
* In ''Series/TheWorstYearOfMyLifeAgain'', Alex finds himself reliving the previous year. Although he tries to change things to make it go better for him, either the same things happen in a different way or something even ''worse'' happens.
* ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' twists the whole notion around at the end of the second season: [[spoiler:John travels forward in time past Judgment Day, and discovers that he was superfluous; humanity is still around and kicking without him.]]

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* ''Series/DarkOracle'': Attempts at preventing ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Synchrony" presents the comic's predictions from coming true inevitably result in a SelfFulfillingProphecy.
* ''Series/QuantumLeap'' played with this. In each episode, Sam's goal was to fight a particular piece
case of fate, a strange old man warning an MIT student and he invariably won. However, when he and Al occasionally tried professor that the student is going to change other things in their own personal interest, they were unable die at a specific time - because of this warning the professor, attempting to do so. For example, in ''MIA'', [[spoiler:Al lied to Sam about what his goal was, and had save the student, ends up accidentally pushing him try to stop Al's own wife Beth from remarrying while he was a prisoner of war. Whatever Sam did to keep Beth away from her future second husband, they kept bumping into each other in unlikely places. Sam was the path of an oncoming bus and thus the warning is a SelfFulfillingProphecy. The old man is [[spoiler: actually there to stop a cop getting shot.]] In ''The Leap Home, Part 1'', [[spoiler:Sam could not convince his father to take up a healthier lifestyle and live longer, or stop his brother the professor from going the future, who has traveled back in time]] attempting to Vietnam [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong Set Right What Will Go Wrong]] and getting killed, because prevent an impending scientific breakthrough [[spoiler: that would be made by the professor in collaboration with his only goal girlfriend, also a scientist, and the student, and which would be a catalyst for a catastrophic technological development.]] Mulder cites an old theory of Scully's about how the future can't be altered, and so the old man's efforts are probably doomed. [[spoiler: Although the professor manages to kill both his present and future selves and erase all of his files, as the episode was to ''win a basketball game''.]] It seems ends, the Unknown Force only unlocked little bits girlfriend is continuing the research on her own with backups of fate at a time. [[spoiler:Sam did save both his brother's life and Al's marriage in later episodes, though.the erased data.]]
* In the pilot of ''Series/{{Merlin}}'', Merlin ** And said scientific breakthrough? [[spoiler:Something enabling TimeTravel itself. What goes wrong is told that it is his fate to protect [[TheChosenZero Arthur]]. Since he has a less than stellar opinion of him, he avoids him for the rest generalized knowledge of the day. Then nighttime comes future and an enchantress puts the court to sleep and throws a knife at Arthur. Merlin pulls him out of the way without thinking. By the time he's realized who he rescued, the king has made him the prince's new manservant as a "reward".
** The entirety of the last season. In the first episode, [[spoiler:Merlin is shown a vision of Arthur being fatally wounded by Mordred. Try as he might, he ultimately failed in preventing it and actually cemented its coming through his actions.]]
* The grim and [[TearJerker sad]] conclusion
knowledge that Ted and Lily in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' come to in "Band or DJ" when they admit to each other that [[spoiler: there are times when Lily wished she wasn't a mother and Ted wished Robin was marrying him instead of Barney.]]
* Episode 6 of ''Series/MythQuest'' sees Alex wanting to change the outcome of Lancelot and Guinevere's affair. When he asks Merlin about it, he says "Never had much luck changing fate. You throw a rock in the river, and the water just sort of... moves around it."
* In ''{{Series/Lexx}}'', time is forever looping and repeating itself identically. The Time Prophet, whose predictions drive several plot points, cannot actually see the future; what she sees is actually the events of a previous loop. This does not stop some from trying to avert prophecy, particularly the first-season villain, His Divine Shadow. [[spoiler:He fails.]]
* In ''Series/TheWorstYearOfMyLifeAgain'', Alex finds himself reliving the previous year. Although he tries to change things to make
it go better for him, either the same things happen in a different way or something even ''worse'' happens.
* ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles'' twists the whole notion around at the end of the second season: [[spoiler:John travels forward in time past Judgment Day, and discovers that he was superfluous; humanity is still around and kicking without him.]]
can't be changed]].



* in the Spanish romance "Enamorado y la muerte" a young man wakes up to see Death walk into his room.(he mistakes her for his beloved at first)He begs her for one more day of life,but Death tells him he has only one hour to live.The young man flees to his mistress' house and convinces her to let him in through the window.[[spoiler:The girl throws him a rope,the rope breaks, and the young man falls to his death.The hour had passed.]][[/folder]]


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* in the Spanish romance "Enamorado y la muerte" a young man wakes up to see Death walk into his room.(he mistakes her for his beloved at first)He begs her for one more day of life,but Death tells him he has only one hour to live.The young man flees to his mistress' house and convinces her to let him in through the window.[[spoiler:The girl throws him a rope,the rope breaks, and the young man falls to his death.The hour had passed.]][[/folder]]

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5th Mar '17 2:00:03 PM legendaryweredragon
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** Theoretically, one could prevent a prophecy by killing the person that the prophecy is about, but on the occasions when somebody actually had the opportunity to do this, they were to scared to try because they believed that fate would retaliate by sending somebody worse to fulfil the prophecy.
24th Feb '17 9:44:16 PM LadyNorbert
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** Later, Rincewind sees Death, who's surprised to meet the failed wizard, since he has an appointment with Rincewind the next day in another city. Death even offers to lend Rincewind
a fast horse, but wisely he doesn't take up the offer. (This is Pratchett's take on an old Arab legend - see below under Myth & Folklore.)

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** Later, Rincewind sees Death, who's surprised to meet the failed wizard, since he has an appointment with Rincewind the next day in another city. Death even offers to lend Rincewind
Rincewind a fast horse, but wisely he doesn't take up the offer. (This is Pratchett's take on an old Arab legend - see below under Myth & Folklore.)
28th Dec '16 1:55:45 PM triton
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** Later, Rincewind sees Death, who's surprised to meet the failed wizard, since he has an appointment with Rincewind the next day in another city. Death even offers to lend Rincewind a fast horse, but wisely he doesn't take up the offer. (This is Pratchett's take on an old Arab legend - see below under Myth & Folklore.)

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** Later, Rincewind sees Death, who's surprised to meet the failed wizard, since he has an appointment with Rincewind the next day in another city. Death even offers to lend Rincewind Rincewind
a fast horse, but wisely he doesn't take up the offer. (This is Pratchett's take on an old Arab legend - see below under Myth & Folklore.)



** [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Gaia and Ouranos]] prophesied that Kronos would be overthrown by one of his sons, so he ate each son as it was born. His wife kept their last son, Zeus, hidden, so that Zeus could eventually fulfill the prophesy (as told in ''Literature/{{Theogony}}'' by Creator/{{Hesiod}}).

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** [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Gaia and Ouranos]] prophesied that Kronos would be overthrown by one of his sons, children, so he ate each son child as it was born.born (that's both sons and daughters, just to be clear). His wife kept their last son, Zeus, hidden, so that Zeus could eventually fulfill the prophesy (as told in ''Literature/{{Theogony}}'' by Creator/{{Hesiod}}).
27th Dec '16 1:58:49 PM Blazer999
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** A third (and notably dangerous) example is Yoshikage Kira's Bites the Dust, which uses this in combination with "GroundhogDay"Loop. It causes somebody to explode, rewinding time by one hour. When it gets to the point in time where Bites the Dust originally activated, fate sets in motion and the target dies again.

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** A third (and notably dangerous) example is Yoshikage Kira's Bites the Dust, which uses this in combination with "GroundhogDay"Loop.GroundhogDayLoop. It causes somebody to explode, rewinding time by one hour. When it gets to the point in time where Bites the Dust originally activated, fate sets in motion and the target dies again.
27th Dec '16 1:56:47 PM Blazer999
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** A third (and notably dangerous) example is Yoshikage Kira's Bites the Dust, which uses this in combination with "GroundhogDay"Loop. It causes somebody to explode, rewinding time by one hour. When it gets to the point in time where Bites the Dust originally activated, fate sets in motion and the target dies again.
22nd Dec '16 7:58:22 AM NaraNumas
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** Until ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'', at least, [[spoiler: which has a decently well hidden ending where you TakeAThirdOption to link the Fire with the Dark Sign, creating an "age of humanity" separate from the Age of Dark, whether this ends up being a good thing or a bad thing for the world... well, who knows?]]
21st Dec '16 10:08:26 AM Ambaryerno
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* Averting this was the goal of the original ''Comicbook/DaysOfFuturePast'': Kitty Pryde was sent back in time to prevent the assassination of Senator Kelly, which would result in a sequence of events leading to the virtual extermination of mutants. Kitty succeeds in saving Kelly's life, but she returns to the future to discover that nothing had changed. It turns out, the "future" was a completely different universe altogether (Earth-811), and because of the laws of time travel in the Marvel Multiverse that one cannot alter their own reality's past, her actions were only able to prevent the same catastrophe from befalling the main Marvel Universe (Earth-616).


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** However ''Film/{{Logan}}'' suggests this trope may ultimately be played straight: Though set in the "Good Future" timeline, mutants are ''still'' apparently gone.
8th Dec '16 12:30:08 PM Slothgirl
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* The ''Film/StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9795158/1/Written-in-the-Stars Written in the Stars]]'' is about Fem!Kirk trying to follow her own path instead of falling in love with Spock like her counterpart did. But when she starts falling for him herself, and discovers that two other versions of herself fell for him, she eventually decides to just go with it instead of fighting back and making herself unhappy.

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* The ''Film/StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9795158/1/Written-in-the-Stars Written in the Stars]]'' ''Fanfic/WrittenInTheStars'' is about Fem!Kirk trying to follow her own path instead of falling in love with Spock like her counterpart did. But when she starts falling for him herself, and discovers that two other versions of herself fell for him, she eventually decides to just go with it instead of fighting back and making herself unhappy.
6th Dec '16 4:37:37 AM Randallw201238
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** However, he ''does'' later help change the outcome of [[spoiler:the Reach invasion; by helping prevent Blue Beetle's FaceHeelTurn, the Reach are ultimately prevented from taking over Earth like they did in Impulse's BadFuture.]] The Season finale (which due to cancellation was the last episode) suggests that there ''would'' be other threats to the Earth that might lead to the same (or similar) outcome, but the series didn't last long enough to reveal this for certain.

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** However, he ''does'' later help change the outcome of [[spoiler:the Reach invasion; by helping prevent Blue Beetle's FaceHeelTurn, the Reach are ultimately prevented from taking over Earth like they did in Impulse's BadFuture.]] The Season finale (which due to cancellation until the revival was thought to be the last episode) suggests that there ''would'' be other threats to the Earth that might lead to the same (or similar) outcome, but the series didn't last long enough to reveal until season 3 this can't be known for certain.
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