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19th Jul '17 1:51:42 PM DarkHunter
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* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', Ilúvatar (God) acts mostly through fate: Gandalf tells Frodo that "there are other forces at work in the world...one could say Bilbo was ''meant'' to find the Ring, in which case you were also ''meant'' to have it." Being a demi-god, he has seen a vision of the history of the universe before it was made, and therefore is able to predict that [[ItWasHisSled Gollum]] would destroy the Ring.
** That's pure conjecture and is not implicit in the story. The fact that fate was in action is not in dispute, but Gandalf did not ''know'' that Gollum would do what he did. He could only suspect that fate had something in store for the wretched creature.

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* In ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'':
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Ilúvatar (God) acts mostly through fate: Gandalf tells Frodo that "there are other forces at work in the world...one could say Bilbo was ''meant'' to find the Ring, in which case you were also ''meant'' to have it." Being a demi-god, he has seen a vision of the history of the universe before it was made, and therefore is able to predict that [[ItWasHisSled Gollum]] would destroy the Ring.
** That's pure conjecture and is not implicit in the story. The fact that fate was in action is not in dispute, but Gandalf did not ''know'' that Gollum would do what he did. He could only suspect that fate had something in store for the wretched creature.
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12th Jun '17 11:56:14 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWarSeries'', Kratos finds you cannot only fight Fate, you can ''kill'' them too.
** Averted in a sense. Kratos was able to fight the Sisters of Fate, but in [[VideoGame/GodOfWarII the game itself]] and the more recent ones it was revealed Kratos was fated to destroy Olympus. The implication being even the Sisters were bound by some higher power they could not control.

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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWarSeries'', Kratos finds you cannot only fight Fate, you can ''kill'' them too.
** Averted in a sense.
Kratos was able to fight the Sisters of Fate, but in [[VideoGame/GodOfWarII the game itself]] and the more recent ones it was revealed Kratos was fated to destroy Olympus. The implication being even the Sisters were bound by some higher power they could not control.
12th Jun '17 11:52:16 PM Googolplex20
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**In universe, the final book of the LeftBehind series, ''Kingdom Come'' has the case of [[LaResistance the Other Light]], an organization of Luciferians dedicated to overthrowing Jesus and God and subverting the Biblical prophecies that preordain their ultimate defeat. The hopeless nature of their fight, and the rather unsympathetic nature of the Christian characters has caused some to view the Other Light as [[DoomedMoralVictor doomed moral victors]] or at worst [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain ineffectual sympathetic villains]] rather than the forces of pure evil.
3rd Jun '17 9:08:43 PM Nintendoman01
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** In "The End, Part II," Robin calls Slade out on helping Trigon destroy the world. Slade responds that while he ''did'' play a part in it, even if he wasn't there, it wouldn't have changed anything; Trigon's coming was inevitable.
1st Jun '17 10:36:39 AM Mr.Phorcys
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** Another example is Meleager, who was fated to die young, specifically when a log of firewood burned out. His mother took the log and hid it away, and Meleager grew up to be a well-respected hero. But during the Calydonian Boar Hunt, he murdered his uncles in a rage after they insulted his martial prowess. His mother was furious and threw the log into the fire, and Meleager died.
20th May '17 7:15:21 AM xcountryguy
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** Recent events show that [[spoiler: even [[CrazyAwesome Jack Rakan]] has a hard time, given Fate's [[RealityWarper abilities]].]]
** And in the most recent chapter, it turns out [[spoiler: ''there are six of him'', two of which are unaccounted for. And they can be brought back from the dead due to their nature as constructs]]. Unless your last name is Springfield, it seems, you really ''can't'' fight Fate. Even then...
*** Right now? [[spoiler: Five of the Fates have already been defeated. The only one standing is the original, and he and Negi '''are''' fighting their last and more definitive duel.]] So it seems that ''you STILL can fight Fate''.

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** Recent events show that [[spoiler: even [[spoiler:even [[CrazyAwesome Jack Rakan]] has a hard time, given Fate's [[RealityWarper abilities]].]]
** And in the most recent chapter, it turns out [[spoiler: ''there [[spoiler:''there are six of him'', two of which are unaccounted for. And they can be brought back from the dead due to their nature as constructs]]. Unless your last name is Springfield, it seems, you really ''can't'' fight Fate. Even then...
*** Right now? [[spoiler: Five [[spoiler:Five of the Fates have already been defeated. The only one standing is the original, and he and Negi '''are''' fighting their last and more definitive duel.]] So it seems that ''you STILL can fight Fate''.



*** Update! [[spoiler: You don't even '''need''' to fight Fate anymore. [[HeelFaceTurn He's on Negi's side]]. Unless you mean [[UnwantedHarem having Fate as your romantic rival for]] [[EvenTheGuysWanthim Negi]], that is.]]
** Asuna Kagurazaka in the first anime's [[GeckoEnding alternate]] [[OvertookTheManga story]] was doomed to die on her 15th birthday due to a DealWithTheDevil so the demons would stop following her and bringing destruction wherever she went. The series' lead's DisappearedDad attempted to save her and was promptly [[DroppedABridgeOnHim crushed under a bridge]]. [[spoiler: She has to die and comes back in time to break the deal. And not before Negi has a HeroicBSOD upon seeing her death.]]

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*** Update! [[spoiler: You [[spoiler:You don't even '''need''' to fight Fate anymore. [[HeelFaceTurn He's on Negi's side]]. Unless you mean [[UnwantedHarem having Fate as your romantic rival for]] [[EvenTheGuysWanthim Negi]], that is.]]
** Asuna Kagurazaka in the first anime's [[GeckoEnding alternate]] [[OvertookTheManga story]] was doomed to die on her 15th birthday due to a DealWithTheDevil so the demons would stop following her and bringing destruction wherever she went. The series' lead's DisappearedDad attempted to save her and was promptly [[DroppedABridgeOnHim crushed under a bridge]]. [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She has to die and comes back in time to break the deal. And not before Negi has a HeroicBSOD upon seeing her death.]]



* Played with in ''Anime/SonicX'' with the character Cosmo, whose actual destiny ([[spoiler: i.e. turn into a tree, die, save the universe, in that order]]), is not revealed until the final two episodes of the series where the spirit of her mother reveals to her that [[spoiler: the stone she wears around her neck, similar to that worn by all species is in fact a [[AppliedPhlebotinum Magical Amulet]] which, when activated, will accelerate her growth into maturity, allowing her to become a tree, attach herself to the BigBad and weaken it to the point at which it can be destroyed]]. Because she had spent most of the series struggling with survivor's guilt, abject terror, and low self esteem, Cosmo saw this sudden revelation of her destiny as her redemption - she no longer felt that she had to stand by and watch their enemies destroy everything; she has a purpose at last. As such, she [[HeroicSacrifice follows her newfound destiny willingly]].

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* Played with in ''Anime/SonicX'' with the character Cosmo, whose actual destiny ([[spoiler: i.([[spoiler:i.e. turn into a tree, die, save the universe, in that order]]), is not revealed until the final two episodes of the series where the spirit of her mother reveals to her that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the stone she wears around her neck, similar to that worn by all species is in fact a [[AppliedPhlebotinum Magical Amulet]] which, when activated, will accelerate her growth into maturity, allowing her to become a tree, attach herself to the BigBad and weaken it to the point at which it can be destroyed]]. Because she had spent most of the series struggling with survivor's guilt, abject terror, and low self esteem, Cosmo saw this sudden revelation of her destiny as her redemption - she no longer felt that she had to stand by and watch their enemies destroy everything; she has a purpose at last. As such, she [[HeroicSacrifice follows her newfound destiny willingly]].



** This situation came up in ''Anime/YuGiOhZexal'' too. [[spoiler: [[TheReveal it was revealed that both Shark and Rio were two of the Seven Barian Emperors in their past lives]], and one of the current Emperors, Durbe, tryed to convince Shark that this Trope applied to them. Shark and Rio eventually did switch sides and join the Barians, but not for the reason Durbe wanted; they felt that, as rulers, they were responsible for the welfare of their people. In the end, Shark and most of the other Barians stood with the heroes against the Don Thousand, the true BigBad, ending the crisis and proving that in this case, surrendering to Fate is not always a bad thing.]]
* In episode 26 of ''Manga/ZettaiKarenChildren'', an Esper dolphin whose visions have always been 100% accurate is introduced. He has two particularly dire predictions: the first being his death by several gunshots; and the second one, where [[spoiler: a war erupts between Normals and Espers, and a grown Kaoru has become the Queen of Catastrophe leading the Espers. Minamoto ends up gunning her down]]. Needless to say, Minamoto is determined to ScrewDestiny. He actually manages to subvert the first vision; his interference causes [[spoiler:the dolphin to die from only ONE bullet]], proving that just maybe the visions aren't infallible.

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** This situation came up in ''Anime/YuGiOhZexal'' too. [[spoiler: [[TheReveal [[spoiler:[[TheReveal it was revealed that both Shark and Rio were two of the Seven Barian Emperors in their past lives]], and one of the current Emperors, Durbe, tryed to convince Shark that this Trope applied to them. Shark and Rio eventually did switch sides and join the Barians, but not for the reason Durbe wanted; they felt that, as rulers, they were responsible for the welfare of their people. In the end, Shark and most of the other Barians stood with the heroes against the Don Thousand, the true BigBad, ending the crisis and proving that in this case, surrendering to Fate is not always a bad thing.]]
* In episode 26 of ''Manga/ZettaiKarenChildren'', an Esper dolphin whose visions have always been 100% accurate is introduced. He has two particularly dire predictions: the first being his death by several gunshots; and the second one, where [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a war erupts between Normals and Espers, and a grown Kaoru has become the Queen of Catastrophe leading the Espers. Minamoto ends up gunning her down]]. Needless to say, Minamoto is determined to ScrewDestiny. He actually manages to subvert the first vision; his interference causes [[spoiler:the dolphin to die from only ONE bullet]], proving that just maybe the visions aren't infallible.



* In ''Manga/RaveMaster'', if your a guy whose last name is Raregroove you are destined to be a good person who suffers a horrible tragedy that causes you to turn evil and try to destroy the world. If you're a guy whose last name is Glory you are destined to stop whichever Raregroove guy from the same generation as you (who always shares your birthday, apparently). Gale and King don't believe this since they're best buddies. How could they possibly fight against one another when they're trying to save the world together? ...Until Gale accidentally gets King's wife and kid killed when the later thinks they need to dirty there hands to accomplish their goal. They later try to put an end to this [[spoiler: when King kills himself and Gale sacrifices himself to save Haru]], but it turns out King's kid ''wasn't'' dead after all, so the cycle repeats.

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* In ''Manga/RaveMaster'', if your a guy whose last name is Raregroove you are destined to be a good person who suffers a horrible tragedy that causes you to turn evil and try to destroy the world. If you're a guy whose last name is Glory you are destined to stop whichever Raregroove guy from the same generation as you (who always shares your birthday, apparently). Gale and King don't believe this since they're best buddies. How could they possibly fight against one another when they're trying to save the world together? ...Until Gale accidentally gets King's wife and kid killed when the later thinks they need to dirty there hands to accomplish their goal. They later try to put an end to this [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when King kills himself and Gale sacrifices himself to save Haru]], but it turns out King's kid ''wasn't'' dead after all, so the cycle repeats.



** [[spoiler: Not '''every''' time. Kotori's FamousLastWords to her fellow dreamseer Kakyou explicitly said that "the future is still undecided", which in the anime turned out to be true via Kamui [[TakeAThirdOption taking a third option]] and going through a HeroicSacrifice. The manga, eh, is something else.]]

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** [[spoiler: Not [[spoiler:Not '''every''' time. Kotori's FamousLastWords to her fellow dreamseer Kakyou explicitly said that "the future is still undecided", which in the anime turned out to be true via Kamui [[TakeAThirdOption taking a third option]] and going through a HeroicSacrifice. The manga, eh, is something else.]]



** Boingo's Stand, Thoth, takes the form of a comic book that predicts the immediate future. These predictions are boasted by Boingo as being 100% absolute. While this is true, they are also highly prone to {{Prophecy Twist}}s; especially if someone actively tries to avoid the predictions of the book. For example, when Boingo's brother Oingo is about to be caught planting a trap that Thoth has prophecised will blow up Jotaro, he uses his Stand to transform himself ''into'' Jotaro to escape detection and ends up being the one who is injured in the trap. [[spoiler: However, one of Thoth's predictions shows Jotaro's face being split in half with "blood everywhere". While this doesn't happen immediately, over 25 years later, Jotaro is killed by Enrico Pucci's Stand Made In Heaven. The scenario? His face is split in half.]]

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** Boingo's Stand, Thoth, takes the form of a comic book that predicts the immediate future. These predictions are boasted by Boingo as being 100% absolute. While this is true, they are also highly prone to {{Prophecy Twist}}s; especially if someone actively tries to avoid the predictions of the book. For example, when Boingo's brother Oingo is about to be caught planting a trap that Thoth has prophecised will blow up Jotaro, he uses his Stand to transform himself ''into'' Jotaro to escape detection and ends up being the one who is injured in the trap. [[spoiler: However, [[spoiler:However, one of Thoth's predictions shows Jotaro's face being split in half with "blood everywhere". While this doesn't happen immediately, over 25 years later, Jotaro is killed by Enrico Pucci's Stand Made In Heaven. The scenario? His face is split in half.]]



* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' has a rule that karma cannot be averted; [[spoiler: Homura can TimeTravel all she wants]] but it won't prevent certain characters from dying, becoming Witches, or becoming Puella Magi in the first place. [[spoiler: There's no rule against changing the rules, though.]]

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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' has a rule that karma cannot be averted; [[spoiler: Homura [[spoiler:Homura can TimeTravel all she wants]] but it won't prevent certain characters from dying, becoming Witches, or becoming Puella Magi in the first place. [[spoiler: There's [[spoiler:There's no rule against changing the rules, though.]]



* In the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fanfic A Rose And A Thorn 4, Project: Mirage goes back in time to try and stop Ashura from causing the fall of the ARK. It turns out that BECAUSE she did this while knowing what was going to happen, she made Sonic blue, and gave birth to [[spoiler: Knuckles]]. The experiment she mated with caused the rampage of the Artificial Chaos because she told him it was going to happen. She still couldn't save Maria even though she knew about it and was right there. But then, she had just been shot...

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* In the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fanfic A Rose And A Thorn 4, Project: Mirage goes back in time to try and stop Ashura from causing the fall of the ARK. It turns out that BECAUSE she did this while knowing what was going to happen, she made Sonic blue, and gave birth to [[spoiler: Knuckles]].[[spoiler:Knuckles]]. The experiment she mated with caused the rampage of the Artificial Chaos because she told him it was going to happen. She still couldn't save Maria even though she knew about it and was right there. But then, she had just been shot...



* In ''Film/SexAndDeath101'' (2008), the main character is emailed (by a MagicalComputer) a list of 101 women's names. It turns out to be a list of all the people he has slept with, or ''is going to sleep with'', before he dies. Initially, he thinks it's just a joke, as his current fiance happens to be #29 out of 101, but, regardless of how he tries to avoid it, he ends up sleeping with every woman on the list, in exactly the order in which they appear, and, to his dismay, the last name on the list happens to match that of a notorious FemmeFatale SerialKiller who seduces men before drugging them into permanent comas. [[spoiler: Indeed, she is the last woman he ever sleeps with, because [[ProphecyTwist they get married]] and live HappilyEverAfter.]]

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* In ''Film/SexAndDeath101'' (2008), the main character is emailed (by a MagicalComputer) a list of 101 women's names. It turns out to be a list of all the people he has slept with, or ''is going to sleep with'', before he dies. Initially, he thinks it's just a joke, as his current fiance happens to be #29 out of 101, but, regardless of how he tries to avoid it, he ends up sleeping with every woman on the list, in exactly the order in which they appear, and, to his dismay, the last name on the list happens to match that of a notorious FemmeFatale SerialKiller who seduces men before drugging them into permanent comas. [[spoiler: Indeed, [[spoiler:Indeed, she is the last woman he ever sleeps with, because [[ProphecyTwist they get married]] and live HappilyEverAfter.]]



** [[spoiler: Adam decides that it doesn't matter what is Written, [[ScrewDestiny because you can always cross it out]]]].

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** [[spoiler: Adam [[spoiler:Adam decides that it doesn't matter what is Written, [[ScrewDestiny because you can always cross it out]]]].



** Early in the book a psychic sees [[spoiler: the future burning of Ankh-Morpork]], and races off away only to be killed in an avalanche - proving that Death also has a sense of humour

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** Early in the book a psychic sees [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the future burning of Ankh-Morpork]], and races off away only to be killed in an avalanche - proving that Death also has a sense of humour



** The Lord of the Nazgûl not only fits this trope but proves that Fate has backup plans. The prophecy that no man could harm him proved insufficient in the face of [[spoiler: being opposed by the woman Éowyn and the Hobbit Merry, one of whom is not a man by gender while the other is not a Man by race]]. However, it can be argued that Fate originally meant for the Nazgûl Lord to face Gandalf [[spoiler: who is also not a Man, but an immortal Maia]] and had to go to [[TimeForPlanB Plan B]] after [[spoiler: Denethor's attempt to kill himself and his son forced Gandalf away from the battle at the crucial moment]]. If so, then [[spoiler:it's a Plan B that was thought out well in advance, because many months earlier Merry just happened to acquire a knife that was engraved with spells to defeat the Witch-King of Angmar, who just happened to be the selfsame Lord of the Nazgûl, without which his stroke might not have weakened the Nazgûl's power sufficiently for Éowyn to deliver the final coup]]. But that bit's not in the movie.

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** The Lord of the Nazgûl not only fits this trope but proves that Fate has backup plans. The prophecy that no man could harm him proved insufficient in the face of [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being opposed by the woman Éowyn and the Hobbit Merry, one of whom is not a man by gender while the other is not a Man by race]]. However, it can be argued that Fate originally meant for the Nazgûl Lord to face Gandalf [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who is also not a Man, but an immortal Maia]] and had to go to [[TimeForPlanB Plan B]] after [[spoiler: Denethor's [[spoiler:Denethor's attempt to kill himself and his son forced Gandalf away from the battle at the crucial moment]]. If so, then [[spoiler:it's a Plan B that was thought out well in advance, because many months earlier Merry just happened to acquire a knife that was engraved with spells to defeat the Witch-King of Angmar, who just happened to be the selfsame Lord of the Nazgûl, without which his stroke might not have weakened the Nazgûl's power sufficiently for Éowyn to deliver the final coup]]. But that bit's not in the movie.



* This is a primary theme of the ''Literature/{{Wolfsangel}}'' cycle. The main characters are bound to play their roles in the birth and death of Odin and Fenris across many reincarnations. [[spoiler: This is due to Odin, who is trying to fight/delay his fate by having his destiny play out on Earth; once the cycle of deaths is broken, the Norns will set Ragnarok in motion and end the era of the Norse gods for good. A HopeSpot appears in ''Lord of Slaughter'' with a way to break the cycle at last, [[UpToEleven but even with the Norns themselves pushing for it]], things do not go as planned.]]

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* This is a primary theme of the ''Literature/{{Wolfsangel}}'' cycle. The main characters are bound to play their roles in the birth and death of Odin and Fenris across many reincarnations. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This is due to Odin, who is trying to fight/delay his fate by having his destiny play out on Earth; once the cycle of deaths is broken, the Norns will set Ragnarok in motion and end the era of the Norse gods for good. A HopeSpot appears in ''Lord of Slaughter'' with a way to break the cycle at last, [[UpToEleven but even with the Norns themselves pushing for it]], things do not go as planned.]]



* In ''Literature/BeforeIFall'', after dying in a car crash while leaving a party, Samantha is forced to relive the last day of her life. No matter what, at 12:39 am, she always dies (or starts over on the same day), and she finds that [[spoiler: Juliet Sykes always kills herself, until Samantha jumps in front of her, thus ending the GroundhogDayLoop.]]

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* In ''Literature/BeforeIFall'', after dying in a car crash while leaving a party, Samantha is forced to relive the last day of her life. No matter what, at 12:39 am, she always dies (or starts over on the same day), and she finds that [[spoiler: Juliet [[spoiler:Juliet Sykes always kills herself, until Samantha jumps in front of her, thus ending the GroundhogDayLoop.]]



** There is even a [[spoiler: Librarian who guards the records and life stories of every being that's ever existed. [[CrypticConversation Naturally]], [[VaguenessIsComing he]] [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo isn't]] [[BecauseDestinySaysSo very helpful]], at least in ''Necropolis'']].
* Brought home in ''[[Literature/TheUnderlandChronicles Gregor and the Curse of the Warmbloods]]'' when [[spoiler: his mom contracts the plague]]; Gregor acknowledges mentally that there was no other way to ensure the prophecy would happen the way it needed to.

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** There is even a [[spoiler: Librarian [[spoiler:Librarian who guards the records and life stories of every being that's ever existed. [[CrypticConversation Naturally]], [[VaguenessIsComing he]] [[YouWillKnowWhatToDo isn't]] [[BecauseDestinySaysSo very helpful]], at least in ''Necropolis'']].
* Brought home in ''[[Literature/TheUnderlandChronicles Gregor and the Curse of the Warmbloods]]'' when [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his mom contracts the plague]]; Gregor acknowledges mentally that there was no other way to ensure the prophecy would happen the way it needed to.



* ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' and it's [[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus sequel series]] has this in spades. In keeping with the heavy ties to Greek Mythology, all prophecies in the story come to pass in some form or another. Trying to avoid or fight off destiny only results in either nothing happening, or worse causing the prophecy to [[SelfFulfillingProphecy come true in the attempt to change it]]. That being said the prophecies themselves are very cryptic, and as a result are open to several, sometime positive, interpretations.

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* ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' and it's its [[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus sequel series]] has this in spades. In keeping with the heavy ties to Greek Mythology, all prophecies in the story come to pass in some form or another. Trying to avoid or fight off destiny only results in either nothing happening, or worse causing the prophecy to [[SelfFulfillingProphecy come true in the attempt to change it]]. That being said the prophecies themselves are very cryptic, and as a result are open to several, sometime positive, interpretations.



** [[ZigZaggingTrope Quadruple-subverted]] with the Blue Hand Group: people who didn't have flash forwards since they'll be dead before April 29th and engage in risky behavior, as they think they have nothing to live for. When some of them live because others decided to ScrewDestiny, their members start dying before April 29th anyway, in the same manner as they were predicted to. Lloyd thinks its [[OntologicalInertia fate trying to correct discrepancies]] but it turns out to be [[spoiler: the Blue Hand's former leader doing what he thinks is fate's work.]] [[DoubleSubversion Double-subverted]] ''again'' when the FBI tries to [[spoiler: stop him from running over his last victim, only for one agent to accidentally hit her with her car]], proving Lloyd's theory that if you prevent your flash forward, someone else will just take your place in the sequence of events.

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** [[ZigZaggingTrope Quadruple-subverted]] with the Blue Hand Group: people who didn't have flash forwards since they'll be dead before April 29th and engage in risky behavior, as they think they have nothing to live for. When some of them live because others decided to ScrewDestiny, their members start dying before April 29th anyway, in the same manner as they were predicted to. Lloyd thinks its [[OntologicalInertia fate trying to correct discrepancies]] but it turns out to be [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Blue Hand's former leader doing what he thinks is fate's work.]] [[DoubleSubversion Double-subverted]] ''again'' when the FBI tries to [[spoiler: stop [[spoiler:stop him from running over his last victim, only for one agent to accidentally hit her with her car]], proving Lloyd's theory that if you prevent your flash forward, someone else will just take your place in the sequence of events.



** In season two, Hiro's father Kaito is [[spoiler: thrown to his death from a rooftop, and Hiro travels back in time to try to prevent it. However, Kaito is resigned to his death, telling Hiro that it's his fate and they can't use their powers to play God. Hiro eventually accepts that and lets the murder play out, but nonetheless uses the opportunity to discover that Adam Monroe was the killer]].
* The grim and [[TearJerker sad]] conclusion that Ted and Lily in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' come to in "Band or DJ" when they admit to each other that [[spoiler: there are times when Lily wished she wasn't a mother and Ted wished Robin was marrying him instead of Barney.]]

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** In season two, Hiro's father Kaito is [[spoiler: thrown [[spoiler:thrown to his death from a rooftop, and Hiro travels back in time to try to prevent it. However, Kaito is resigned to his death, telling Hiro that it's his fate and they can't use their powers to play God. Hiro eventually accepts that and lets the murder play out, but nonetheless uses the opportunity to discover that Adam Monroe was the killer]].
* The grim and [[TearJerker sad]] conclusion that Ted and Lily in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' come to in "Band or DJ" when they admit to each other that [[spoiler: there [[spoiler:there are times when Lily wished she wasn't a mother and Ted wished Robin was marrying him instead of Barney.]]



* On ''Series/{{Reaper}}'', one guy manages to weasel out of his DealWithTheDevil. [[spoiler: The Devil gets his soul anyway.]]

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* On ''Series/{{Reaper}}'', one guy manages to weasel out of his DealWithTheDevil. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Devil gets his soul anyway.]]



* In ''Franchise/StarTrek'', if you attempt [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation The Kobayashi Maru]] scenario, it will result in failure, no matter what you do. [[spoiler: Unless you [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome hack the simulation program.]]]]

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* In ''Franchise/StarTrek'', if you attempt [[UnwinnableTrainingSimulation The Kobayashi Maru]] scenario, it will result in failure, no matter what you do. [[spoiler: Unless [[spoiler:Unless you [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome hack the simulation program.]]]]



** ''Every'' DealWithTheDevil ends with hell, no matter if you're a guest star or one of the leads. Well, they did save the one guy who only made the deal to save his wife...but no one since. As the season 4 opener reveals, [[spoiler: you can still get out with a little help from above.]]
** In a more typical example of the trope, the episode "The Monster at the End of This Book" reveals that [[spoiler: there's a man with the gift of divine prophecy whose prophecies ''always'' come true, even when Sam and Dean try to avert them--which doesn't discount the possibility of a ProphecyTwist if the prophet doesn't see the whole scene.]]

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** ''Every'' DealWithTheDevil ends with hell, no matter if you're a guest star or one of the leads. Well, they did save the one guy who only made the deal to save his wife...but no one since. As the season 4 opener reveals, [[spoiler: you [[spoiler:you can still get out with a little help from above.]]
** In a more typical example of the trope, the episode "The Monster at the End of This Book" reveals that [[spoiler: there's [[spoiler:there's a man with the gift of divine prophecy whose prophecies ''always'' come true, even when Sam and Dean try to avert them--which doesn't discount the possibility of a ProphecyTwist if the prophet doesn't see the whole scene.]]



* "Profile in Silver", an episode of the 80s revival of ''Series/TheTwilightZone'', played with this trope. A historian from the future (who happened to be a direct descendant of John F. Kennedy) prevented Kennedy's assassination, only to set in motion events that would bring about a nuclear exchange between the U.S. and Russia. [[spoiler: He manages to set things right by taking JFK's place in the motorcade, and Kennedy himself becomes a history teacher in his descendant's future.]]

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* "Profile in Silver", an episode of the 80s revival of ''Series/TheTwilightZone'', played with this trope. A historian from the future (who happened to be a direct descendant of John F. Kennedy) prevented Kennedy's assassination, only to set in motion events that would bring about a nuclear exchange between the U.S. and Russia. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He manages to set things right by taking JFK's place in the motorcade, and Kennedy himself becomes a history teacher in his descendant's future.]]



** The finale of the series [[spoiler: ended up ''averting'' this trope. Alex wins the final challenge and thus receives all of the Russo family's magical power. However, there's nothing that states that other forces can't grant people magic: Justin is appointed the future headmaster of Wiz Tech, and ''also'' becomes a full wizard. Max is the only one who doesn't receive any magical ability, but [[GracefulLoser he's OK with it]], and Jerry promises to give him the sandwich shop.]]

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** The finale of the series [[spoiler: ended [[spoiler:ended up ''averting'' this trope. Alex wins the final challenge and thus receives all of the Russo family's magical power. However, there's nothing that states that other forces can't grant people magic: Justin is appointed the future headmaster of Wiz Tech, and ''also'' becomes a full wizard. Max is the only one who doesn't receive any magical ability, but [[GracefulLoser he's OK with it]], and Jerry promises to give him the sandwich shop.]]



* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Synchrony" presents the case of a strange old man warning an MIT student and professor that the student is going to die at a specific time - because of this warning the professor, attempting to save the student, ends up accidentally pushing him into the path of an oncoming bus and thus the warning is a SelfFulfillingProphecy. The old man is [[spoiler: actually the professor from the future, who has traveled back in time]] attempting to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong Set Right What Will Go Wrong]] and prevent an impending scientific breakthrough [[spoiler: that would be made by the professor in collaboration with his girlfriend, also a scientist, and the student, and which would be a catalyst for a catastrophic technological development.]] Mulder cites an old theory of Scully's about how the future can't be altered, and so the old man's efforts are probably doomed. [[spoiler: Although the professor manages to kill both his present and future selves and erase all of his files, as the episode ends, the girlfriend is continuing the research on her own with backups of the erased data.]]

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* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Synchrony" presents the case of a strange old man warning an MIT student and professor that the student is going to die at a specific time - because of this warning the professor, attempting to save the student, ends up accidentally pushing him into the path of an oncoming bus and thus the warning is a SelfFulfillingProphecy. The old man is [[spoiler: actually [[spoiler:actually the professor from the future, who has traveled back in time]] attempting to [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong Set Right What Will Go Wrong]] and prevent an impending scientific breakthrough [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that would be made by the professor in collaboration with his girlfriend, also a scientist, and the student, and which would be a catalyst for a catastrophic technological development.]] Mulder cites an old theory of Scully's about how the future can't be altered, and so the old man's efforts are probably doomed. [[spoiler: Although [[spoiler:Although the professor manages to kill both his present and future selves and erase all of his files, as the episode ends, the girlfriend is continuing the research on her own with backups of the erased data.]]



* Duke Rowan Darkwood in ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' gets screwed over by this ''in spades'', [[spoiler: becoming destined to be the person who instigates (as the ancient wizard rumored to have crafted a spell that can destroy the Lady of Pain), starts (as Rowan Darkwood), and ''ends'' (as Gifad, who coaxes the party to help him cast the Sigil Spell) the Faction War all in one go. And all this time, the Lady of Pain had controlled ''everything''...]]

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* Duke Rowan Darkwood in ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' gets screwed over by this ''in spades'', [[spoiler: becoming [[spoiler:becoming destined to be the person who instigates (as the ancient wizard rumored to have crafted a spell that can destroy the Lady of Pain), starts (as Rowan Darkwood), and ''ends'' (as Gifad, who coaxes the party to help him cast the Sigil Spell) the Faction War all in one go. And all this time, the Lady of Pain had controlled ''everything''...]]



* In ''TabletopGame/{{Continuum}}'', this is not an inherent property of the universe as such. However, nearly all sapient life throughout time and space agrees on maintaining the universe the way it is (because not doing so causes damage to the timestream; more specifically, to the continuity of individual sapient beings), and accordingly it's going to stay that way; there's simply nothing in existence that can defeat the ClockRoaches when they come to fix things. Narcissists (the guys who fight fate) are destined to lose, though for this reason the War must be fought. [[spoiler: Except that it's possible that Narcissists may escape into alternate timelines instead.]]

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Continuum}}'', this is not an inherent property of the universe as such. However, nearly all sapient life throughout time and space agrees on maintaining the universe the way it is (because not doing so causes damage to the timestream; more specifically, to the continuity of individual sapient beings), and accordingly it's going to stay that way; there's simply nothing in existence that can defeat the ClockRoaches when they come to fix things. Narcissists (the guys who fight fate) are destined to lose, though for this reason the War must be fought. [[spoiler: Except [[spoiler:Except that it's possible that Narcissists may escape into alternate timelines instead.]]



** Even earlier, both Mata Nui and Makuta tried to exploit this at the same time. Mata Nui determined which Matoran would become the Toa Metru, and a prophecy of their identities leaked out. The prophecy was quickly surpressed, but not before Makuta learned of it. He then tricked Toa Lhikan into deciding that the prophecized Matoran were not the ones truly destined to be Toa and caused Lhikan to pick six others who Lhikan thought would do the job. These six were, in fact, chosen by Makuta as six who would never be able to work together and therefor fail. These six became the Toa and Makuta seemingly won (at least for a little while). Future averted, right? [[spoiler: Nope. The prophecy was a lie created by Mata Nui for just such an occasion. The six Matoran Makuta planted in Lhikan's mind were in turn planted into HIS mind by Mata Nui, thus allowing those truly destined to take the power.]] Not bad for a guy who was asleep most of the series.

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** Even earlier, both Mata Nui and Makuta tried to exploit this at the same time. Mata Nui determined which Matoran would become the Toa Metru, and a prophecy of their identities leaked out. The prophecy was quickly surpressed, but not before Makuta learned of it. He then tricked Toa Lhikan into deciding that the prophecized Matoran were not the ones truly destined to be Toa and caused Lhikan to pick six others who Lhikan thought would do the job. These six were, in fact, chosen by Makuta as six who would never be able to work together and therefor fail. These six became the Toa and Makuta seemingly won (at least for a little while). Future averted, right? [[spoiler: Nope.[[spoiler:Nope. The prophecy was a lie created by Mata Nui for just such an occasion. The six Matoran Makuta planted in Lhikan's mind were in turn planted into HIS mind by Mata Nui, thus allowing those truly destined to take the power.]] Not bad for a guy who was asleep most of the series.



** Until ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'', at least, [[spoiler: which has a decently well hidden ending where you TakeAThirdOption to link the Fire with the Dark Sign, creating an "age of humanity" separate from the Age of Dark, whether this ends up being a good thing or a bad thing for the world... well, who knows?]]

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** Until ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'', at least, [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which has a decently well hidden ending where you TakeAThirdOption to link the Fire with the Dark Sign, creating an "age of humanity" separate from the Age of Dark, whether this ends up being a good thing or a bad thing for the world... well, who knows?]]



* In ''VideoGame/RadiantHistoria'', all the things that happened were ThePlan [[spoiler: from the twins to, not only save the world, but also to make Heiss accept his fate of being the sacrifice.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/RadiantHistoria'', all the things that happened were ThePlan [[spoiler: from [[spoiler:from the twins to, not only save the world, but also to make Heiss accept his fate of being the sacrifice.]]



* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'', the main plot of the big bad is to [[spoiler: win the power of the gods to control humanity's own history. Not so evil after all. He both succeeds and loses, which sucks.]]
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'' focuses on TimeTravel to avoid a BadFuture. Despite going into various decades, centuries, ''alternate'' centuries or even obtaining the paradox endings, [[spoiler: it always ends with Etro dying, time itself being destroyed and the Caius achieving his goal]].
** Many people see ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' as the same thing: The party resolves to fight fate and escape the curse of the L'cie (turning to crystal or turning into a monster), [[spoiler: however they end up doing exactly what the big Bad wants them to do anyways and in the end are only saved from the curse by the intervention of one of the Gods (Who's intervention causes the events of the sequel to take place). ]]

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* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'', the main plot of the big bad is to [[spoiler: win [[spoiler:win the power of the gods to control humanity's own history. Not so evil after all. He both succeeds and loses, which sucks.]]
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2'' focuses on TimeTravel to avoid a BadFuture. Despite going into various decades, centuries, ''alternate'' centuries or even obtaining the paradox endings, [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it always ends with Etro dying, time itself being destroyed and the Caius achieving his goal]].
** Many people see ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' as the same thing: The party resolves to fight fate and escape the curse of the L'cie (turning to crystal or turning into a monster), [[spoiler: however [[spoiler:however they end up doing exactly what the big Bad wants them to do anyways and in the end are only saved from the curse by the intervention of one of the Gods (Who's intervention causes the events of the sequel to take place). ]]



* [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Armageddon]] in ''VideoGame/OdinSphere''. [[spoiler: You can't stop it, but you ''can'' [[MultipleEndings make it even worse]] if you don't fulfill the prophecy exactly.]]

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* [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The Armageddon]] in ''VideoGame/OdinSphere''. [[spoiler: You [[spoiler:You can't stop it, but you ''can'' [[MultipleEndings make it even worse]] if you don't fulfill the prophecy exactly.]]



** The Triangulum Arc reveals that [[spoiler: after defeating Polaris and its Septentriones, the next batch of higher existences arrives in the form of Arcturus and its Triangulum, out to destroy the world and mankind, instead of merely testing them. And the Triangulum already appeared twice]]. One of the endings even includes realizing this trope and deciding to [[spoiler: fight a never-ending war with every Administrator coming to earth and trying to destroy humanity, with the party out to defend the world and regressing it over and over, until every Administrator is defeated]]. This ending is even implied to eventually [[DownerEnding not end well]].

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** The Triangulum Arc reveals that [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after defeating Polaris and its Septentriones, the next batch of higher existences arrives in the form of Arcturus and its Triangulum, out to destroy the world and mankind, instead of merely testing them. And the Triangulum already appeared twice]]. One of the endings even includes realizing this trope and deciding to [[spoiler: fight [[spoiler:fight a never-ending war with every Administrator coming to earth and trying to destroy humanity, with the party out to defend the world and regressing it over and over, until every Administrator is defeated]]. This ending is even implied to eventually [[DownerEnding not end well]].



** This trope is zigzagged in the game in general. [[spoiler: Reala]] coming back at all was a case of [[spoiler: ScrewDestiny]], as was [[spoiler: Judas]] [[AmbiguousSituation maybe]] [[ThePowerOfFriendship coming back]].

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** This trope is zigzagged in the game in general. [[spoiler: Reala]] [[spoiler:Reala]] coming back at all was a case of [[spoiler: ScrewDestiny]], [[spoiler:ScrewDestiny]], as was [[spoiler: Judas]] [[spoiler:Judas]] [[AmbiguousSituation maybe]] [[ThePowerOfFriendship coming back]].



* Present for the BigBad in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyCrystalChroniclesEchoesOfTime''. Larkeicus's plan is to stop an event that's about to happen from causing crystals to disappear from the world 2,000 years in the past [[TimeyWimeyBall (...somehow)]]. He calculates the exact time and location of the event, [[spoiler: which is in the middle of the air. So he builds a tower to reach that point. After you defeat him, Sherlotta tells him something along the lines of, "If there wasn't this tower, what could have possibly happened, all the way up here?". She then follows up by essentially [[InvokedTrope stating this trope]]]].

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* Present for the BigBad in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyCrystalChroniclesEchoesOfTime''. Larkeicus's plan is to stop an event that's about to happen from causing crystals to disappear from the world 2,000 years in the past [[TimeyWimeyBall (...somehow)]]. He calculates the exact time and location of the event, [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which is in the middle of the air. So he builds a tower to reach that point. After you defeat him, Sherlotta tells him something along the lines of, "If there wasn't this tower, what could have possibly happened, all the way up here?". She then follows up by essentially [[InvokedTrope stating this trope]]]].



* In ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'', [[spoiler: you fight fate, or rather, FATE.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Things don't exactly go smoothly afterwards...]]

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* In ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'', [[spoiler: you [[spoiler:you fight fate, or rather, FATE.]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Things don't exactly go smoothly afterwards...]]



** green sparkling items and creatures cannot be manipulated by any sort of time travel.
** you can't fix attempting to use a key on the wrong door by rewinding time.
** [[spoiler: a secret star]] cannot be gotten if you solve the [[spoiler: World 4]] jigsaw puzzle too early.
** time can no longer be rewound once [[spoiler: you see the ending]].

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** green Green sparkling items and creatures cannot be manipulated by any sort of time travel.
** you You can't fix attempting to use a key on the wrong door by rewinding time.
** [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:A secret star]] cannot be gotten if you solve the [[spoiler: World [[spoiler:World 4]] jigsaw puzzle too early.
** time Time can no longer be rewound once [[spoiler: you [[spoiler:you see the ending]].



* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]], but ultimately subverted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. Lucina travels back in time from a BadFuture where the Fel Dragon Grima was resurrected and destroyed most of humanity, hoping to stop his resurrection by changing history. When she only manages to change the circumstances of events leading up to it's return like [[spoiler: Emmeryn's death]] rather than outright preventing them, she begins to fear this is the case. Eventually, however, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the Grima from her timeline followed her back (in it's human form) and has been subtly manipulating events to ensure it's resurrection]].

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* [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]], but ultimately subverted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. Lucina travels back in time from a BadFuture where the Fel Dragon Grima was resurrected and destroyed most of humanity, hoping to stop his resurrection by changing history. When she only manages to change the circumstances of events leading up to it's its return like [[spoiler: Emmeryn's [[spoiler:Emmeryn's death]] rather than outright preventing them, she begins to fear this is the case. Eventually, however, it's revealed that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Grima from her timeline followed her back (in it's its human form) and has been subtly manipulating events to ensure it's its resurrection]].



* Even if Ange from ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' [[ScrewDestiny changes the past and helps Battler come home]], [[spoiler:Battler still won't have come home, because [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble it already didn't happen that way]]]]. Though in the canonical ending, [[spoiler: Battler is one of the only two survivors of the incident on the island, and the whole series is how he tries to figure out what happened during those two days on Rokkenjima. The whole scenario is flipped around: No matter what happens, everyone but Battler and Eva are going to die on the island since that's simply how it happened.]]
* In ''Steins;Gate'', the concept of Attractor Fields plays with this. Certain groups of World Lines (alternate timelines) will always converge on the same result. Using TimeTravel, you can change World Lines, and thus change certain events, but unless the World Line changes to that of a different Attractor Field, then that specific event will always occur. For example, if you witness a person die on October 13th, then that person will always die that day, no matter what the cause is. [[spoiler: However, the True Ending reveals that TrickedOutTime is possible.]]

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* Even if Ange from ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' [[ScrewDestiny changes the past and helps Battler come home]], [[spoiler:Battler still won't have come home, because [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble it already didn't happen that way]]]]. Though in the canonical ending, [[spoiler: Battler [[spoiler:Battler is one of the only two survivors of the incident on the island, and the whole series is how he tries to figure out what happened during those two days on Rokkenjima. The whole scenario is flipped around: No matter what happens, everyone but Battler and Eva are going to die on the island since that's simply how it happened.]]
* In ''Steins;Gate'', the concept of Attractor Fields plays with this. Certain groups of World Lines (alternate timelines) will always converge on the same result. Using TimeTravel, you can change World Lines, and thus change certain events, but unless the World Line changes to that of a different Attractor Field, then that specific event will always occur. For example, if you witness a person die on October 13th, then that person will always die that day, no matter what the cause is. [[spoiler: However, [[spoiler:However, the True Ending reveals that TrickedOutTime is possible.]]



** Interestingly, this only applies to major characters; [[MrExposition Miss Exposition]] claims that the universe only really cares that much about the actions of people who will have a major impact on the universe itself and its survival/[[spoiler: reproduction]], while those without potential for such impact have traditional free will and the universe will not split into a doomed timeline regardless of their choices.
** [[spoiler: John]] is the only person able to actually fight this, [[spoiler: as since he's no longer tied down to the basic causality of the Incipisphere, his actions as he flits across time and space can actually change the alpha timeline. Considering how narrowly the kid's made it out alive, this is more than a little scary for him.]]

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** Interestingly, this only applies to major characters; [[MrExposition Miss Exposition]] claims that the universe only really cares that much about the actions of people who will have a major impact on the universe itself and its survival/[[spoiler: reproduction]], survival/[[spoiler:reproduction]], while those without potential for such impact have traditional free will and the universe will not split into a doomed timeline regardless of their choices.
** [[spoiler: John]] [[spoiler:John]] is the only person able to actually fight this, [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as since he's no longer tied down to the basic causality of the Incipisphere, his actions as he flits across time and space can actually change the alpha timeline. Considering how narrowly the kid's made it out alive, this is more than a little scary for him.]]



** And when the above two examples are mixed together, [[spoiler: it still ends up that this trope is played straight. Even when John teleports the Kids in using his Retcon powers to stop Lord English's younger self before he can become Lord English, it still ends up being the event that creates him anyways.]]

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** And when the above two examples are mixed together, [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it still ends up that this trope is played straight. Even when John teleports the Kids in using his Retcon powers to stop Lord English's younger self before he can become Lord English, it still ends up being the event that creates him anyways.]]



* ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' has [[spoiler: Sarda]] espouse this philosophy. This is due to [[spoiler:his failures at TimeTravel]], thinking that something that happened cannot be avoided. [[spoiler:Chaos turns that on its head.]]

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* ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' has [[spoiler: Sarda]] [[spoiler:Sarda]] espouse this philosophy. This is due to [[spoiler:his failures at TimeTravel]], thinking that something that happened cannot be avoided. [[spoiler:Chaos turns that on its head.]]



* In the ''WesternAnimation/ChipNDaleRescueRangers'' episode "Seer No Evil", a gypsy moth named Cassandra gives a series of unlikely predictions to everyone except Zipper, but they all end in different ways than expected. Monterey Jack gets a pink fur coat (he gets covered in cotton candy), Gadget would have a run-in with a tall, dark stranger (specifically, the VillainOfTheWeek's monkey), Dale would fly without wings (a magnet picks him up after he gets his foot stuck in a thimble), and Chip would end up running into an elephant and get crushed by a trunk, implying that he would die. However, it was an automated elephant at the entrance of the fun house, and the trunk in question [[spoiler: had all of the stolen loot as well as Dale, Monty, and Gadget trapped inside, and they used force to knock it down and pry it open.]] Luckily, Chip didn't die, because [[spoiler: there was a hole in the floor.]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/ChipNDaleRescueRangers'' episode "Seer No Evil", a gypsy moth named Cassandra gives a series of unlikely predictions to everyone except Zipper, but they all end in different ways than expected. Monterey Jack gets a pink fur coat (he gets covered in cotton candy), Gadget would have a run-in with a tall, dark stranger (specifically, the VillainOfTheWeek's monkey), Dale would fly without wings (a magnet picks him up after he gets his foot stuck in a thimble), and Chip would end up running into an elephant and get crushed by a trunk, implying that he would die. However, it was an automated elephant at the entrance of the fun house, and the trunk in question [[spoiler: had [[spoiler:had all of the stolen loot as well as Dale, Monty, and Gadget trapped inside, and they used force to knock it down and pry it open.]] Luckily, Chip didn't die, because [[spoiler: there [[spoiler:there was a hole in the floor.]]



* This trope was done on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' in "The Ned Zone" segment of "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E1TreehouseOfHorrorXV Treehouse of Horror XV]]" where Ned can foretell people's deaths, and has a vision showing himself killing Homer. [[spoiler: He believes he's managed to avert the vision, but then has another vision of Homer causing an explosion at the nuclear power plant that destroys the town. In the course of stopping Homer from causing the explosion, he ends up fulfilling the original prediction, but Homer manages to cause the explosion anyway.]]

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* This trope was done on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' in "The Ned Zone" segment of "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E1TreehouseOfHorrorXV Treehouse of Horror XV]]" where Ned can foretell people's deaths, and has a vision showing himself killing Homer. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He believes he's managed to avert the vision, but then has another vision of Homer causing an explosion at the nuclear power plant that destroys the town. In the course of stopping Homer from causing the explosion, he ends up fulfilling the original prediction, but Homer manages to cause the explosion anyway.]]



* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/JacobTwoTwo'' starts with Jacob accidentally destroying his older brother's priceless, never-been-played Beatles record, and discovering a time machine that will let him go back to when he broke it. But every single time he tries to fix it, things turn out ''worse'', culminating in their ''[[DisasterDominoes entire house being destroyed]]'' (along with the record). Jacob finally gives up trying to save the record, and uses the time machine one last time to recreate the original incident (where just the record is broken and nothing else). And then he happens upon another copy of ''I want to Hold Your Hand''. Yay! [[spoiler: And then Daniel accidentally breaks that copy, too.]]

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/JacobTwoTwo'' starts with Jacob accidentally destroying his older brother's priceless, never-been-played Beatles record, and discovering a time machine that will let him go back to when he broke it. But every single time he tries to fix it, things turn out ''worse'', culminating in their ''[[DisasterDominoes entire house being destroyed]]'' (along with the record). Jacob finally gives up trying to save the record, and uses the time machine one last time to recreate the original incident (where just the record is broken and nothing else). And then he happens upon another copy of ''I want to Hold Your Hand''. Yay! [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And then Daniel accidentally breaks that copy, too.]]
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* ''Literature/{{TheLionTheWitch andTheWardrobe}}'' has the Golden Age Prophecy that 2 Sons of Adam (the Narnians' terms for a male human) and 2 Daughters of Eve (the Narnians' terms for a female human) will defeat the White Witch and restore piece to Narnia. It turns out that the Pevensie children are indeed the prophesized four. Although the White Witch tried to kill them to maintain her rule over Narnia, the siblings successfully defeat her and become the sworn protectors of Narnia.

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* ''Literature/{{TheLionTheWitch andTheWardrobe}}'' ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' has the Golden Age Prophecy Prophecy, which predicts that 2 two Sons of Adam (the Narnians' terms for a male human) and 2 two Daughters of Eve (the Narnians' terms for a female human) will defeat the White Witch and restore piece to peace in Narnia. It turns out that the Pevensie children are indeed the prophesized four. Although the White Witch tried to kill them to maintain her rule over Narnia, the siblings successfully defeat her and become the sworn protectors of Narnia.
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': It's implied that the Three-Eyed Raven was aware that Hodor would be thrown in a mind-loop, though the event appears to have been accidental due to the chaos and urgency that the attack on the cave caused, and Bran's inexperience in controlling his warging powers. In context, Hodor's mind-loop had to happen just because Hodor exists, meaning that it already happened even decades before Bran was born. He also made Bran concentrate on Meera's instruction, prompting the boy to create the loop. Whether he intended for this to happen (making Bran create "Hodor" in a desperate attempt to save his life) is not clear.
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* ''Film/SurfNinjas'' lampshades it repeatedly. Every time Zatch proposes a new even more difficult task for Johnny, someone will protest that it is impossible and he can't possibly do it, and someone will say "He can if it's his destiny". By the end of the movie, multiple people will join together in a resigned chorus of "He can if it's his destiny".
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