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28th Oct '17 7:40:50 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the {{Superman}} story ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'', ComicBook/LoisLane tries to tell what Mr. Mxyzptlk's true fifth-dimensional form was: "I canít describe what Mxyzptlk then became. He had height, width, depth, and a couple of other things, too.Ē

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* In the {{Superman}} ComicBook/{{Superman}} story ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'', ComicBook/LoisLane tries to tell what Mr. Mxyzptlk's true fifth-dimensional form was: "I canít describe what Mxyzptlk then became. He had height, width, depth, and a couple of other things, too.Ē


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* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': The Face of Fear is obscured by a helmet that the monster in question only opens to kill people with his NightmareFace, but he doesn't actually have a real face. It's always reflecting the [[YourWorstNightmare most deep-seated terror]] of the person who lays eyes upon it.
27th Oct '17 10:54:39 PM DarkHunter
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* ''WebOriginal/OrionsArm'' takes a slightly different approach. An intelligence of a lower toposophic ''cannot'' understand a higher intelligence. Humans are considered S0 intelligences ([[PunyHumans the lowest level of sapient intelligence]]), and cannot comprehend the nature or thoughts of a S1 intelligence (Basic Transapient). However, a S1 is likewise unable to comprehend the thoughts of an S2 entity, and so forth. The highest intelligences (or at least the highest ''known'') are the Greater Archailects (S6), which exist physically as multiple planet-sized objects networked together, sometimes at least partially in alternate universes of their own creation. It's said that an archailect's ''individual thoughts'' are themselves sentient entities, whatever that means. Given that an S6 is effectively a vast and all-powerful interstellar civilisation in itself, an S7 (if such beings exist) would be... perhaps literally incomprehensible to humans.

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* ''WebOriginal/OrionsArm'' takes a slightly different approach. An intelligence of a lower toposophic ''cannot'' understand a higher intelligence. Humans are considered S0 intelligences ([[PunyHumans the lowest level of sapient intelligence]]), and cannot comprehend the nature or thoughts of a an S1 intelligence (Basic Transapient). However, a an S1 is likewise unable to comprehend the thoughts of an S2 entity, and so forth. The highest intelligences (or at least the highest ''known'') are the Greater Archailects (S6), which exist physically as multiple planet-sized objects networked together, sometimes at least partially in alternate universes of their own creation. It's said that an archailect's ''individual thoughts'' are themselves sentient entities, whatever that means. Given that an S6 is effectively a vast and all-powerful interstellar civilisation in itself, an S7 (if such beings exist) would be... perhaps literally incomprehensible to humans.
22nd Oct '17 12:08:25 AM DustSnitch
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* Insofar as God is depicted in ''Literature/TheDivineComedy'' at all, it's in an extremely abstract fashion due to how far he is beyond human understanding. Dante has to literally go through Hell, climb up the opposite side of the world, fly outside the universe, bathe his eyes in a river of heavenly light, and pray for the intercession of the Mother of God and even then, he admits his memory contains an infinitely inadequate account of what God actually is.
28th Sep '17 6:05:15 AM Quanyails
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* A lot of the really pioneering minds in advanced mathematics tend to have at at least minor breakdowns now and then, particularly those studying esoteric things like set theory (aka infinity +1 ), alternative systems of math like knot theory, and those studying problems which may or may not actually have solutions. [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Apparently, its hard on a brain to spend your days trying to grasp the true form of things that exist in fractional dimensions braided around a 4-sphere]].

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* A lot of the really pioneering minds in advanced mathematics tend to have at at least minor breakdowns now and then, particularly those studying esoteric things like set theory (aka infinity +1 ), + 1), alternative systems of math like knot theory, and those studying problems which may or may not actually have solutions. [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Apparently, its hard on a brain to spend your days trying to grasp the true form of things that exist in fractional dimensions braided around a 4-sphere]].
20th Sep '17 12:53:14 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** Infinity itself is difficult for most people to understand, and also has very strange consequences, as two infinite quantities are not necessarily equal, and some infinities are, effectively, bigger than others. Related to this is infinitesimal, which is a something that can only be described as a value that is infinitely small, but still reasonably significant. It's probably first heard when taking a physics class or learning about integrals. There are also an infinite number of numbers between 0 and 1, or indeed, between any two values.

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** Infinity itself is difficult for most people to understand, and also has very strange consequences, as two infinite quantities are not necessarily equal, and some infinities are, effectively, bigger than others.others[[note]]For example there are an infinite number of counting numbers and an infinite number of even counting numbers, but the second set is obviously smaller [[/note]]. Related to this is infinitesimal, which is a something that can only be described as a value that is infinitely small, but still reasonably significant. It's probably first heard when taking a physics class or learning about integrals. There are also an infinite number of numbers between 0 and 1, or indeed, between any two values.
20th Sep '17 12:25:09 AM ImpudentInfidel
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***In some depictions his form and even his words vary with the observer. To his psycher-immune bodyguards however he [[spoiler: is just a man.]]
17th Sep '17 8:24:56 AM Morgenthaler
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** According to Zachariah, his true form has 6 wings and 4 faces, one of which is a lion. This is actually in line with how Literature/TheBible describes angels.

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** According to Zachariah, in response to Dean mocking him for still looking like a bald, middle-aged man when they run into him in Heaven, his true form has 6 wings and 4 faces, one of which is a lion. This is actually in line with how Literature/TheBible describes angels.angels.
-->'''Zachariah:''' You see ''this'' because you're... limited.
12th Sep '17 7:21:07 PM appealus
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** Happens AGAIN in the Lovecraft-inspired ''Crouch End'', where the woman telling the story to the police recounts how her husband saw ''something'' in a pit in Crouch End, she was only able to glance it but he saw the whole thing, and his mind immediatly blanked it out and caused him to regress mentally.

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** Happens AGAIN in the Lovecraft-inspired ''Crouch End'', where the woman telling the story to the police recounts how her husband saw ''something'' in a pit in Crouch End, she was only able to glance it but he saw the whole thing, and his mind immediatly immediately blanked it out and caused him to regress mentally.
10th Sep '17 6:51:16 PM GrammarNavi
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** The Alara block gives us the [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=188962 Nemesis of Rea-]] [[{{Candlejack}} THE END]].

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** The Alara block gives us the [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=188962 Nemesis of Rea-]] [[{{Candlejack}} [[JustForFun/CandleJack THE END]].
5th Sep '17 9:57:20 PM KillerClowns
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* An unusual and particularly dark case for the TrueFinalBoss of ''VideoGame/TheBindingOfIsaac: Afterbirth+''. Isaac cannot grasp the true form of [[spoiler:Delirium]], but not for the reasons usual for an {{Eldritch Abomination}}. No, it's because [[spoiler:Delirium is a [[WorldOfSymbolism symbolic representation]] of Isaac's mind shutting down on the threshold of death; Isacc cannot grasp the true form because there's almost nothing left of ''Isaac'' to do the grasping]].
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