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15th Sep '16 5:49:23 PM Chaot1kShadow5
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* If the "Interface Theory of Perception" is to be believed, this is an ''evolutionary mechanic''. The gist of its argument is that each species has evolved a unique visual perception of reality to benefit their unique behavior. A good metaphor compares our perception of reality to the user interface of a computer, which masks the complex, inner workings of a computer from the user. To test this phenomenon, an "interface game" was set up to determine which of two groups would survive: organisms that perceive an objective reality versus organisms that perceive a subjective reality. '''The truth-perceiving organisms died out.'''
9th Sep '16 7:29:53 AM CaptEquinox
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* "[[http://personaltao.com/teachings/taoism/taoism-101/ The Tao]] we can describe is not the Tao that is."



* Many people on the autistic spectrum describe their perception and empathy for the world around them in this way.

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* Many people on the autistic spectrum describe their perception and empathy for of the world around them in this way.way due to the way they process sensory input. ''Aquamarine Blue 5'', a book of essays written by autistics, describes experiences like these.
8th Sep '16 11:58:59 AM erforce
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* The Patriots, when they finally speak, claim this status in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty.'' In fact, they say they're the embodiment of the collective will of the United States itself. They're a pretty UnreliableNarrator, though, and this was debunked in ''MetalGearSolid4.''

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* The Patriots, when they finally speak, claim this status in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty.'' In fact, they say they're the embodiment of the collective will of the United States itself. They're a pretty UnreliableNarrator, though, and this was debunked in ''MetalGearSolid4.''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots.''
23rd Aug '16 9:04:06 PM InitHello
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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', there is a semi-divine being known as a Skinwalker, or Naagloshii. Just to look at it resembles a powerful bestial creature (with the ability to shape-shift). Certainly frightening, but by no means incomprehensible. However, when Harry uses his Wizard's Sight on it, even briefly, the effect is almost mind-shattering. The Naagloshii's true form is so inherently ''wrong'' that it literally takes hours for Harry to dissemble enough to function normally again (and he has to be careful not to think about it otherwise it reduces him to near unconsciousness).

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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', there is a semi-divine being known as a Skinwalker, or Naagloshii. Just to look at it resembles a powerful bestial creature (with the ability to shape-shift). Certainly frightening, but by no means incomprehensible. However, when Harry uses his Wizard's Sight on it, even briefly, the effect is almost mind-shattering. The Naagloshii's true form is so inherently ''wrong'' that it literally takes hours for Harry to dissemble enough to function normally again (and he has to be careful not to think about it otherwise it reduces him to near unconsciousness). This is made even worse by the nature of the Sight, in that things that are Seen are remembered with perfect fidelity ''forever''.
19th Aug '16 8:14:42 AM Godzillawolf
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** It's implied this applies to some degree to ''all'' of the Concepts, as when [[spoiler:Cadenza]] and Strife appear in their true forms to Moochick and Heathspike, they're both seen as a member of their respective races that represent their Concepts, and Luna implies this is the case whenever the Concepts manifest in their true forms to mortals.


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* [[http://fav.me/d9xldet This comic]] has Poindexter, upon learning Discord's normal form is AFormYouAreComfortableWith, asks to see his true form despite Discord's warnings. He ''really'' should have listened.
10th Aug '16 1:00:09 AM PaulA
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* The universe itself. It goes on forever, has no boundaries, but at the same time, finite[[note]]but, very likely, ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#The_Universe_versus_the_observable_universe far larger]]'' than the part we can see from Earth, and perhaps even infinite[[/note]]. If you were able to move infinitely fast, you would just end up where you started. BillBryson used this example to try to explain it in ''A Short History of Nearly Everything'': Imagine a two-dimensional being who comes through a dimensional portal to Earth. He tries to determine the size of Earth by traveling along its surface in a straight line, but keeps coming back to his starting point, and can't figure out how he did it. This is what is happening in the universe, which is "curving" in a way that our brains just can't really grasp. Just try to conceive how this can happen.\\

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* The universe itself. It goes on forever, has no boundaries, but at the same time, finite[[note]]but, very likely, ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#The_Universe_versus_the_observable_universe far larger]]'' than the part we can see from Earth, and perhaps even infinite[[/note]]. If you were able to move infinitely fast, you would just end up where you started. BillBryson Creator/BillBryson used this example to try to explain it in ''A Short History of Nearly Everything'': Imagine a two-dimensional being who comes through a dimensional portal to Earth. He tries to determine the size of Earth by traveling along its surface in a straight line, but keeps coming back to his starting point, and can't figure out how he did it. This is what is happening in the universe, which is "curving" in a way that our brains just can't really grasp. Just try to conceive how this can happen.\\
6th Aug '16 3:35:27 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' crossover: after flying into space, {{Superman}} and ComicBook/IronMan see the forcible merger of their worlds as two gigantic hands pushing the two Earths together. Tony comments that this can't be real, and Clark says that this is simply how their minds chose to represent the event. Also in this crossover, we see Eternity (the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the MarvelUniverse) merging with his female counterpart, Kismet of the DCUniverse, [[http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion/1/a-dc-equal-for-eternity/688456/ in what looks like a, uh, very intimate embrace]].

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* In the ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' crossover: after flying into space, {{Superman}} and ComicBook/IronMan see the forcible merger of their worlds as two gigantic hands pushing the two Earths together. Tony comments that this can't be real, and Clark says that this is simply how their minds chose to represent the event. Also in this crossover, we see Eternity (the AnthropomorphicPersonification of the MarvelUniverse) Franchise/MarvelUniverse) merging with his female counterpart, Kismet of the DCUniverse, Franchise/DCUniverse, [[http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion/1/a-dc-equal-for-eternity/688456/ in what looks like a, uh, very intimate embrace]].
1st Aug '16 11:49:28 PM Gingerkitteh
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* In ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]'' [[spoiler:the Bittercold's]] attacks are implied to be this. Ontop of [[spoiler:the Bittercold]] being an [[spoiler: OutsideContextProblem]], it also uses attacks [[spoiler:never seen in the Pokemon franchise before, hits the entire room, can confuse or vastly lower your party's stats, and the names of said attacks don't appear in the message log at all.]]

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* In ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]'' [[spoiler:the Bittercold's]] attacks are implied to be this. Ontop On top of [[spoiler:the Bittercold]] being an [[spoiler: OutsideContextProblem]], it also uses attacks [[spoiler:never seen in the Pokemon franchise before, hits the entire room, can confuse or vastly lower your party's stats, and the names of said attacks don't appear in the message log at all.]]
28th Jul '16 4:37:21 PM elemt
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': The Alara block gives us the [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=188962 Nemesis of Rea-]] [[{{Candlejack}} THE END]].

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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'':
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The Alara block gives us the [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=188962 Nemesis of Rea-]] [[{{Candlejack}} THE END]].


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** When Jace comes into mental contact with [[EldritchAbomination Emrakul]], he perceives her as Emeria, an angelic deity inspired by greatly distorted legends of the Eldrazi Titan. She speaks politely, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu they play chess]] (Jace even considers whether to offer her tea), then she turns the pieces into abominations and disappears.
--> '''"Emeria"''': Communication between us is difficult. I cannot talk to you. I do not even really know you exist. But you, your brain, it is very...adaptable.
17th Jul '16 7:51:59 PM Discar
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* In ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]'' [[spoiler:the Bittercold's]] attacks are implied to be this. Ontop of [[spoiler:the Bittercold]] being an [[spoiler: OutsideContextVillain]], it also uses attacks [[spoiler:never seen in the Pokemon franchise before, hits the entire room, can confuse or vastly lower your party's stats, and the names of said attacks don't appear in the message log at all.]]

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* In ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]'' [[spoiler:the Bittercold's]] attacks are implied to be this. Ontop of [[spoiler:the Bittercold]] being an [[spoiler: OutsideContextVillain]], OutsideContextProblem]], it also uses attacks [[spoiler:never seen in the Pokemon franchise before, hits the entire room, can confuse or vastly lower your party's stats, and the names of said attacks don't appear in the message log at all.]]
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