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14th May '16 9:21:26 PM jormis29
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* In ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5]]'', most people see the Vorlons as whatever equivalent their culture has to "angel," but Londo apparently sees nothing. Whether this was because the Vorlon ignored the Centauri race and focused their [[{{Precursors}} ancient genetic manipulation]] on the now-extinct Xon race that also evolved on Centauri Prime, or because Londo is just a {{Jerkass}}, is never explained. JMS claimed somewhere, in response to a fan's question, that Garibaldi (an agnostic) would have seen himself in Kosh. This statement seems to support the idea that it was Londo's having been touched by Shadows that led him to see nothing, rather than any faith-related matters/crises on his part.
* Parodied somewhat in ''TheMiddleman'', when MM and Wendy visit the underworld. It appears to Wendy (and the camera) like an office building, but when she mentions this to MM, he claims to see an overgrown field full of feral creatures. [[spoiler:He's kidding, he sees an office. "Someone's funny in the underworld."]]

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* In ''[[Series/BabylonFive Babylon 5]]'', ''Series/BabylonFive'', most people see the Vorlons as whatever equivalent their culture has to "angel," but Londo apparently sees nothing. Whether this was because the Vorlon ignored the Centauri race and focused their [[{{Precursors}} ancient genetic manipulation]] on the now-extinct Xon race that also evolved on Centauri Prime, or because Londo is just a {{Jerkass}}, is never explained. JMS claimed somewhere, in response to a fan's question, that Garibaldi (an agnostic) would have seen himself in Kosh. This statement seems to support the idea that it was Londo's having been touched by Shadows that led him to see nothing, rather than any faith-related matters/crises on his part.
* Parodied somewhat in ''TheMiddleman'', ''Series/TheMiddleman'', when MM and Wendy visit the underworld. It appears to Wendy (and the camera) like an office building, but when she mentions this to MM, he claims to see an overgrown field full of feral creatures. [[spoiler:He's kidding, he sees an office. "Someone's funny in the underworld."]]



** The novel ''I, Q'' goes so far as to say that the human mind does this automatically to stay sane and that Data normally shuts down because his android mind tries to "see" everything and crashes. Q must filter the sensor input so Data can function.

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** The novel ''I, Q'' ''Literature/{{IQ}}'' goes so far as to say that the human mind does this automatically to stay sane and that Data normally shuts down because his android mind tries to "see" everything and crashes. Q must filter the sensor input so Data can function.



* In ''{{Grimm}}'', it's explained that it's generally a bad idea for normal humans to see the true forms of Wesen, as it could make them GoMadFromTheRevelation. Someone like Hank whose sanity was able to withstand the initial shock then ''thinks'' he was going crazy. For weeks, he was unable to sleep and was becoming increasingly paranoid. Nick had to stop him from shooting his own goddaughter in a blind panic when she accidentally reveals her GameFace.

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* In ''{{Grimm}}'', ''Series/{{Grimm}}'', it's explained that it's generally a bad idea for normal humans to see the true forms of Wesen, as it could make them GoMadFromTheRevelation. Someone like Hank whose sanity was able to withstand the initial shock then ''thinks'' he was going crazy. For weeks, he was unable to sleep and was becoming increasingly paranoid. Nick had to stop him from shooting his own goddaughter in a blind panic when she accidentally reveals her GameFace.



* ''MagicTheGathering'': The Alara block gives us the [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=188962 Nemesis of Rea-]] [[{{Candlejack}} THE END]].

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* ''MagicTheGathering'': ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': The Alara block gives us the [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=188962 Nemesis of Rea-]] [[{{Candlejack}} THE END]].



* The dragons of ''{{Rift}}'' [[EldritchAbomination aren't dragons at all...]]

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* The dragons of ''{{Rift}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Rift}}'' [[EldritchAbomination aren't dragons at all...]]
8th May '16 8:38:26 PM Shishkahuben
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* ''{{TabletopGame/Pathfinder}}'' works this into the stat block for [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]] himself. Since Cthulhu is [[AlienGeometries non-Euclidian]] and not wholly in the Material plane, or the third dimension at all for that matter, Cthulhu's attacks naturally cleave in a ten-foot cube around what he appears to actually strike. Additionally, his apparent and actual position don't line up quite right, granting him a flat 50% miss chance against all attacks. This can be defeated by using [[TrueSight the True Seeing spell]], but this is a generally inadvisable option, [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow forcing a Will save versus instant and permanent]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation insanity as you are suddenly forced to grasp Cthulhu's true form.]]
1st May '16 5:24:33 PM CerotechOmega
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* While a living being can easily look upon the "Dark Matter" entity from the ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' series, ''analyzing'' it is something else. [[spoiler:Star Dream, the ultra-advanced supercomputer developed by the Haltmann Works Company in ''Planet Robobot'', recreates the Blade version of Dark Matter last seen in ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand2''... not because it would be the ideal opponent, but because it is literally all that the supercomputer, something on par with ''[[VideoGame/KirbySuperStar Galactic Nova]]'', is capable of replicating. Apparently, the mightiest digital minds in existence have a very hard time comprehending a being made of pure evil.]]
27th Apr '16 1:34:51 PM CaptEquinox
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** This is why Don Joyce's "Squant" never ceases to madden us with its premise and Crosley's matter-of-fact discussion.
25th Apr '16 11:38:10 AM Vale
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** Actually, S6 is the highest level that baseline humans ("S0s") are aware of. Given that an S6 is effectively a vast and all-powerful interstellar civilisation in itself, an S7 would be... perhaps literally incomprehensible to humans.
7th Apr '16 11:46:01 AM TechPriest90
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* OlderThanFeudalism: In the ''Literature/BhagavadGita'', [[Myth/HinduMythology Krishna]] actually shows Arjuna his ({{God}}'s) true form, which is basically a more extreme combination of EldritchAbomination and PurityPersonified. Krishna even mentions that Arjuna's mortal mind cannot comprehend all that he is, so Krishna briefly gives Arjuna divine sight so that Arjuna can comprehend. Arjuna ''still'' can't handle it, and begs Krishna to retake human form.

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* OlderThanFeudalism: In the ''Literature/BhagavadGita'', [[Myth/HinduMythology Krishna]] actually shows Arjuna his ({{God}}'s) true form, which is basically a more extreme combination of EldritchAbomination and PurityPersonified. Krishna even mentions that Arjuna's mortal mind cannot comprehend all that he is, so Krishna briefly gives Arjuna divine sight so that Arjuna can comprehend. [[GoMadFromTheRevelation Arjuna ''still'' still can't handle it, it,]] [[TooMuchForManToHandle and begs Krishna to retake human form.]]
30th Mar '16 4:43:22 PM Fynlar
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* The TropeNamer is ''VideoGame/EarthBound''. "You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas' attack!" It's a tradition of ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}'' series' final bosses. In ''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings'', Giygas (aka Giegue) attacked telepathically and without lifting a finger; his mental power was so far beyond the protagonists they couldn't process what he was using for PSI. In ''[=EarthBound=]'' he was [[BodyHorror "reduced" to an]] EldritchAbomination so large and all-encompassing, you simply couldn't tell where his attacks are coming from; in gameplay terms you were fighting against ''the background''. In ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'', [[spoiler:Porky]]...doesn't really have an explanation. His attacks are incomprehensible likely just due to tradition.

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* The TropeNamer is ''VideoGame/EarthBound''. "You cannot grasp the true form of Giygas' attack!" It's a tradition of ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}'' series' final bosses. In ''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings'', Giygas (aka Giegue) attacked telepathically and without lifting a finger; his mental power was so far beyond the protagonists they couldn't process what he was using for PSI. In ''[=EarthBound=]'' he was [[BodyHorror "reduced" to an]] EldritchAbomination so large and all-encompassing, you simply couldn't tell where his attacks are coming from; in gameplay terms you were fighting against ''the background''. In ''VideoGame/{{Mother 3}}'', [[spoiler:Porky]]...doesn't really have an explanation. His attacks are incomprehensible likely just due to tradition. Additionally, [[spoiler:the Masked Man]] doesn't have announcements for most of his attacks like most other enemies in the game do; they simply just happen without warning.



* The final battle with Sin in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' plays out somewhat like the ''VideoGame/EarthBound'' example above, with Sin's attacks not being labelled except for its LimitBreak, [[NonStandardGameOver Giga Gravitation]].

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* The final battle with Sin in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' plays out somewhat like the ''VideoGame/EarthBound'' example above, with Sin's attacks not being labelled except for its LimitBreak, [[NonStandardGameOver Giga Gravitation]].Graviton]].
15th Mar '16 1:52:59 PM 20person
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*** Your dragon soul is also the only thing preventing you from going blind or insane from reading the Scrolls without training, since it exists on the same cosmic plane as them, and both are connected to time itself (since the god of dragons is also the god of time).
9th Mar '16 7:30:44 PM rjd1922
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* This is a regular feature on Literature/{{Discworld}}, particularly as it relates to death (and indeed [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Death]]!) It's also how the TimeTravel antics of the Men in Saffron appear to civilians.

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* This is a regular feature on Literature/{{Discworld}}, ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', particularly as it relates to death (and indeed [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Death]]!) It's also how the TimeTravel antics of the Men in Saffron appear to civilians.



* In "[[Literature/AssassinFantastic Myhr's Adventure in Hell]]", Terrin translates everything Myhr "sees" in Hell to something he can grasp without going insane. Mainly, a SugarBowl. With [[ItMakesSenseInContext naked lesbian demons]].

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* In "[[Literature/AssassinFantastic ''[[Literature/AssassinFantastic Myhr's Adventure in Hell]]", Hell]]'', Terrin translates everything Myhr "sees" in Hell to something he can grasp without going insane. Mainly, a SugarBowl. With [[ItMakesSenseInContext naked lesbian demons]].
27th Feb '16 12:46:50 PM Godzillawolf
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* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the Elders of the Alicorns and Draconnequi are {{Eldritch Abomination}}s (though the Alicorns are benevolent), and as such cannot be properly viewed by mortals. This is best exemplified when [[spoiler:Liarjack]] meets the Father of Alicorns -- the only thing she's able to view him as is a piece of the Night Sky in the shape of a pony (probably due to him being the AnthropomorphicPersonification of ''existence''). Everything else about him is so seemingly contradictory (such as appearing as a foal, a colt, and a stallion ''all at once''), she's incapable of understanding it, and finally just gives up trying to in frustration.

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* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries''
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Elders of the Alicorns and Draconnequi are {{Eldritch Abomination}}s (though the Alicorns are benevolent), and as such cannot be properly viewed by mortals. This is best exemplified when [[spoiler:Liarjack]] meets the Father of Alicorns -- the only thing she's able to view him as is a piece of the Night Sky in the shape of a pony (probably due to him being the AnthropomorphicPersonification of ''existence''). Everything else about him is so seemingly contradictory (such as appearing as a foal, a colt, and a stallion ''all at once''), she's incapable of understanding it, and finally just gives up trying to in frustration.frustration.
** The [[EldritchAbomination Outer Concepts]] all seem to have this to varying degrees. Some of them do carry the 'induce insanity' part, but most of the time it's simply impossible for a mortal to get more of an abstract idea of what they really look like, even when using an Avatar. Their Elder, Azerhorse, is implied to be constantly changing physical form.
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