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13th Jan '17 9:11:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* This is the crux of [[spoiler:Kelsier]]'s ThanatosGambit in ''{{Mistborn}}''. He purports himself as a figure of legend and a symbol of evolution, so that when he is killed, a vengeful religion rises up immediately to complete his work in his name.

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* This is the crux of [[spoiler:Kelsier]]'s ThanatosGambit in ''{{Mistborn}}''.''Literature/{{Mistborn}}''. He purports himself as a figure of legend and a symbol of evolution, so that when he is killed, a vengeful religion rises up immediately to complete his work in his name.
1st Jan '17 1:23:41 PM MAI742
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** While this made-up quotation tells us nothing about Stalin or Soviet politics, it ''is'' a fascinating insight into the American psyche. In Toricelli's mind the possession of (anti-Communist) "ideas" [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics and "guns" is what distinguishes the USA, and keeps it from becoming, a 'totalitarian' Communist dictatorship]]. Every other long-term democratic Developed Country would emphasise the possession of (democratic) "ideas" and (democratic) "political participation" instead, if only because arms companies and arms advocacy groups have not had the same capacity to influence political culture.

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** While this made-up quotation tells us nothing about Stalin or Soviet politics, it ''is'' a fascinating insight into the American psyche. In Toricelli's mind the possession of (anti-Communist) "ideas" [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics and "guns" is what distinguishes the USA, USA from, and keeps it from becoming, a 'totalitarian' Communist dictatorship]]. Every other long-term democratic Developed Country would emphasise the possession of (democratic) "ideas" and (democratic) (popular) "political participation" instead, if only because arms companies and arms advocacy groups have not had the same capacity to influence their political culture.cultures.
1st Jan '17 12:34:51 PM MAI742
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* UsefulNotes/JosefStalin had a go:

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* * [[https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin In a 2001 book of "Quotations for Public Speakers", the US ex-senator Robert Toricelli]] [[BeamMeUpScotty almost certainly incorrectly claimed that]] UsefulNotes/JosefStalin had a go:said:


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** While this made-up quotation tells us nothing about Stalin or Soviet politics, it ''is'' a fascinating insight into the American psyche. In Toricelli's mind the possession of (anti-Communist) "ideas" [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics and "guns" is what distinguishes the USA, and keeps it from becoming, a 'totalitarian' Communist dictatorship]]. Every other long-term democratic Developed Country would emphasise the possession of (democratic) "ideas" and (democratic) "political participation" instead, if only because arms companies and arms advocacy groups have not had the same capacity to influence political culture.
29th Dec '16 9:41:33 AM nombretomado
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* Music/PeterGabriel invokes this trope in the song "Biko", a tribute to [[TheApartheidEra South African martyr Steven Biko]], with following lyric:

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* Music/PeterGabriel invokes this trope in the song "Biko", a tribute to [[TheApartheidEra [[UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra South African martyr Steven Biko]], with following lyric:
7th Dec '16 4:51:09 PM Thesedaysthosedays
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SuperTrope of CantStopTheSignal. The characters who pass on the idea are likely {{Doomed Moral Victor}}s. Likely to inspire an InnocentBystander to make a DefiantStoneThrow.

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SuperTrope of CantStopTheSignal. The characters who pass on the idea are likely {{Doomed Moral Victor}}s. Likely to inspire an InnocentBystander to make a DefiantStoneThrow.
DefiantStoneThrow. Compare WeAreEverywhere, for those bad ideas that can't be killed.
3rd Nov '16 6:53:51 PM StarSword
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* {{Discussed}} in a ''Series/{{NOVA}}'' episode on radicalization, [[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/15-years-terror.html "15 Years of Terror"]]. One of the interviewees points out that the only thing that kills a bad idea is a ''better'' idea.
21st Oct '16 10:50:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* JosefStalin had a go:

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* JosefStalin UsefulNotes/JosefStalin had a go:
22nd Sep '16 1:13:20 PM SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest
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* In ''VideoGame/FZero GP Legend'', before his base is destroyed, [[BigBad Black Shadow]] yells that hell never die, nor will his dreams. Captain Falcon [[ShutUpHannibal responds]] by [[AscendedMeme Falcon Punching]] him.
9th Sep '16 5:26:57 AM erforce
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* ''Film/BenHur''. Messala takes command of the Jerusalem Garrison and has this exchange with the former commander Sextus. "Yes Messala but how do you control whats up here? (points to his head) How do you fight an idea? Especially a new idea." Later, Messala has a response to this trope. "Sextus, you asked how to "fight an idea" Well I'll tell you how... With another idea."

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* ''Film/BenHur''.''Film/BenHur1959''. Messala takes command of the Jerusalem Garrison and has this exchange with the former commander Sextus. "Yes Messala but how do you control whats up here? (points to his head) How do you fight an idea? Especially a new idea." Later, Messala has a response to this trope. "Sextus, you asked how to "fight an idea" Well I'll tell you how... With another idea."
20th Aug '16 10:59:07 PM Premonition45
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* Subverted in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': "You can crush me but you can't crush my spirit!" *crushed by giant claw* "Ow! My spirit!"

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* Subverted Parodied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': "You can crush me but you can't crush my spirit!" *crushed by giant claw* "Ow! My spirit!"
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