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5th Jan '18 2:32:48 AM eroock
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* ''Film/VForVendetta'' had an epic one near the end. After taking dozens of bullets and killing a dozen men before they could finish reloading (as per his BadassBoast), V approaches The DragonInChief, who asks, in disbelief, "WhyWontYouDie!" His response? "Beneath this mask is more than flesh; beneath this mask there is an ''idea'', Mister Creedy -- and [[CantStopTheSignal ideas. Are.]] ''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Bulletproof.]]''" [[spoiler:The literal bullet proof vest helped, if only for a while; he died shortly thereafter to his wounds.]]

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* ''Film/VForVendetta'' had an epic one near the end. After taking dozens of bullets and killing a dozen men before they could finish reloading (as per his BadassBoast), V approaches The DragonInChief, who asks, in disbelief, "WhyWontYouDie!" His response? "Beneath this mask is more than flesh; beneath this mask there is an ''idea'', Mister Creedy -- and [[CantStopTheSignal ideas. Are.]] ''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Bulletproof.]]''" [[spoiler:The literal bullet proof vest helped, if only for a while; he died shortly thereafter to his wounds.]]
15th Dec '17 10:47:46 AM JJHIL325
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* Speaking of Nazis, people who oppose anti-hate speech laws or other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups cite this trope as one of the reasons why they don't support them. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly, but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them they can't be.

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* Speaking of Nazis, people who oppose anti-hate speech laws or and other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups cite this trope as one of the reasons why they don't support them.believe they would be ineffective. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly, but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them they can't be.
12th Dec '17 8:37:50 AM JJHIL325
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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued his work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that somebody else would have stirred up those prejuduces in the public in order to get political support.
* Speaking of Nazis, people cite this trope when opposing anti-hate speech laws or other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly, but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them the can't be.

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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as 2]]; once his sick ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis, someone else (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued his work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed (and still continue to exist) centuries before he was born. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that somebody else would have stirred if Hitler didn't stir up those the prejuduces in of the 1930s German public in order to get political support.
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* Speaking of Nazis, people cite this trope when opposing who oppose anti-hate speech laws or other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups. groups cite this trope as one of the reasons why they don't support them. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly, but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them the they can't be.
10th Dec '17 7:38:36 PM MyFinalEdits
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** You just lost The Game.



** While this made-up quotation tells us nothing about Stalin or Soviet politics, it ''is'' a fascinating insight into the American psyche. In Toricelli's mind the possession of (anti-Communist) "ideas" [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics and "guns" is what distinguishes the USA from, and keeps it from becoming, a 'totalitarian' Communist dictatorship]]. Every other long-term democratic Developed Country would emphasise the possession of (democratic) "ideas" and (popular) "political participation" instead, if only because arms companies and arms advocacy groups have not had the same capacity to influence their political cultures.
27th Nov '17 4:35:02 PM Caps-luna
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* Speaking of Nazis, people site this trope when opposing anti-hate speech laws or other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them the can't be.

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* Speaking of Nazis, people site cite this trope when opposing anti-hate speech laws or other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly publicly, but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them the can't be.
27th Nov '17 4:34:32 PM Caps-luna
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* Speaking of Nazis, people site this trope when opposing anti-hate speech laws or other policies aimed at directly suppressing hate groups. You can throw them in jail or silence them publicly but people won't stop being racist simply because someone tells them the can't be.
14th Nov '17 10:38:12 AM JJHIL325
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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued his work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born.

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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued his work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that somebody else would have stirred up those prejuduces in the public in order to get political support.
7th Nov '17 2:50:03 PM JJHIL325
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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) claim that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't work]], as once his sick idea was planted in the minds of the Nazis once he was killed, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued on his work.

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* This trope is one of the main reasons why many people (often Sci-Fi writers) claim believe that [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct going back in time to kill Hitler wouldn't work]], prevent the Holocaust or World War 2]], as once his sick idea was ideas were planted in the minds of the Nazis once he was killed, Nazis, someone (perhaps even crazier -- or worse, more [[GeneralFailure competent]] -- than he was) would have continued on his work.work if he was assassinated. Also, even if Hitler didn't come into power and lead the Nazi Party, anti-Semitism, ableism, homophobia, etc. existed centuries before he was born.
4th Nov '17 12:16:11 PM Premonition45
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** Later in the episode, the same argument is used to convince Gowron to let Kahless be a figurehead Emperor rather than oppose him. When Kahless counters that this Kahless is a clone, Worf points out that it won't matter to a good number of Klingons, who will still see it as reincarnation, and would only result in fracturing the Empire. Gowron is forced to, reluctantly, kneel before Kahless (even though Gowron is still in charge).

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** *** Later in the episode, the same argument is used to convince Gowron to let Kahless be a figurehead Emperor rather than oppose him. When Kahless counters that this Kahless is a clone, Worf points out that it won't matter to a good number of Klingons, who will still see it as reincarnation, and would only result in fracturing the Empire. Gowron is forced to, reluctantly, kneel before Kahless (even though Gowron is still in charge).charge).
** In the two-part episode "Birthright", Worf discovers a Romulan prison camp where Klingons and Romulans have learned to live together in peace. However, he finds that the Klingon children are not informed about their heritage. The Romulan leader, Tokath, finds him a threat to this peace, and demands that Worf stop or else he'll get executed. Worf tells him he is content to FaceDeathWithDignity for this reason.
--->'''Worf:''' I am being executed because I brought something dangerous to your young people. Knowledge. Knowledge of their origins. Knowledge of the real reasons you are here in this camp. The truth is a threat to you.
22nd Oct '17 11:37:53 AM nombretomado
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** Two and a half millennia later, CarlJung would adopt Plato's ideas for his theory of "archetypes", that every person is hardwired with mythological symbols that manifest in their myths and religions, while another Carl - [[Creator/CarlSagan Sagan]] - would savage Plato for the rise of religious dogma, by championing the supremacy of the mind over the science of the 'corrupt' natural world.

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** Two and a half millennia later, CarlJung UsefulNotes/CarlJung would adopt Plato's ideas for his theory of "archetypes", that every person is hardwired with mythological symbols that manifest in their myths and religions, while another Carl - [[Creator/CarlSagan Sagan]] - would savage Plato for the rise of religious dogma, by championing the supremacy of the mind over the science of the 'corrupt' natural world.
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