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7th Feb '16 10:45:32 AM kithas
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** This is implied to happen to Daedric Princes as well, as they are actually their own plane of Oblivion, and their ingame appearances are only [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith a form mortals can understand]].
1st Feb '16 6:25:17 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''Literature/{{Otherland}}'' series by TadWilliams, [[BigBad Felix Jongleur]] communicates with [[CapturedSuperEntity The Other]] through simulations so he can avoid interacting with it more directly. Unusual in that he's the one who determines what fake form he's perceiving, though The Other tends to warp the simulation into something a bit more disturbing.
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* In the ''Literature/{{Otherland}}'' series by TadWilliams, Creator/TadWilliams, [[BigBad Felix Jongleur]] communicates with [[CapturedSuperEntity The Other]] through simulations so he can avoid interacting with it more directly. Unusual in that he's the one who determines what fake form he's perceiving, though The Other tends to warp the simulation into something a bit more disturbing.
6th Jan '16 4:53:25 PM MyFinalEdits
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Indentation, again
* Someone else's thoughts. While you might be able to get a sense of what someone else is thinking, you can never tell exactly what someone else has on their mind. You can't climb into their consciousness and experience the world through their perceptions. The way colors, smells, sounds, and language are interpreted in your brain are completely unique to you and only you. This is the only way you'll experience the world your entire life. We aren't even born with the ability to consider that other people can have different perspectives and mental representations than our own. ** Not only that, but there's no solid way of knowing what another person would do in your place. Even if it's someone you're close friends with or a family member you've know your whole life, you'll never know for certain what they would do in your place. Everyone has their own views on morality, truth, fairness, justice, mercy, acceptance, etc. Unless a person tells you outright what they think about something, you'll never know for certain how they interpret it. You'll never know if they're on your side or if they disagree with you completely. ** [[TheAntiNihilist Don't let any of it get you down though]]. This state of mental variation means all of us are truly unique. Something you dislike about yourself might actually be something another person really loves about you. The people around you can still manage to surprise you, even if you've known them for years. Most importantly, even if it feels like you're the only one in the world who feels a certain way, [[YouAreNotAlone there are countless other people who have an idea of what you're going through. Not a total sense of what you're feeling, but an idea of it. People who care about you and want you to be happy. Many of them have greater knowledge and experience than you and are more than happy to share it. All you have to do is ask.]]
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* Someone else's thoughts. thoughts. ** While you might be able to get a sense of what someone else is thinking, you can never tell exactly what someone else has on their mind. You can't climb into their consciousness and experience the world through their perceptions. The way colors, smells, sounds, and language are interpreted in your brain are completely unique to you and only you. This is the only way you'll experience the world your entire life. We aren't even born with the ability to consider that other people can have different perspectives and mental representations than our own. ** Not only that, but there's There's no solid way of knowing what another person would do in your place. Even if it's someone you're close friends with or a family member you've know your whole life, you'll never know for certain what they would do in your place. Everyone has their own views on morality, truth, fairness, justice, mercy, acceptance, etc. Unless a person tells you outright what they think about something, you'll never know for certain how they interpret it. You'll never know if they're on your side or if they disagree with you completely. ** [[TheAntiNihilist Don't let any of it get you down though]]. This state of mental variation means all of us are truly unique. Something you dislike about yourself might actually be something another person really loves about you. The people around you can still manage to surprise you, even if you've known them for years. Most importantly, even if it feels like you're the only one in the world who feels a certain way, [[YouAreNotAlone there are countless other people who have an idea of what you're going through. Not a total sense of what you're feeling, but an idea of it. People who care about you and want you to be happy. Many of them have greater knowledge and experience than you and are more than happy to share it. All you have to do is ask.]]
6th Jan '16 2:38:45 PM Mr.Bubbles
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* Someone else's thoughts. While you might be able to get a sense of what someone else is thinking, you can never tell exactly what someone else has on their mind. You can't climb into their consciousness and experience the world through their perceptions. The way colors, smells, sounds, and language are interpreted in your brain are completely unique to you and only you. This is the only way you'll experience the world your entire life. We aren't even born with the ability to consider that other people can have different perspectives and mental representations than our own. ** Not only that, but there's no solid way of knowing what another person would do in your place. Even if it's someone you're close friends with or a family member you've know your whole life, you'll never know for certain what they would do in your place. Everyone has their own views on morality, truth, fairness, justice, mercy, acceptance, etc. Unless a person tells you outright what they think about something, you'll never know for certain how they interpret it. You'll never know if they're on your side or if they disagree with you completely. ** [[TheAntiNihilist Don't let any of it get you down though]]. This state of mental variation means all of us are truly unique. Something you dislike about yourself might actually be something another person really loves about you. The people around you can still manage to surprise you, even if you've known them for years. Most importantly, even if it feels like you're the only one in the world who feels a certain way, [[YouAreNotAlone there are countless other people who have an idea of what you're going through. Not a total sense of what you're feeling, but an idea of it. People who care about you and want you to be happy. Many of them have greater knowledge and experience than you and are more than happy to share it. All you have to do is ask.]]
2nd Jan '16 8:17:27 AM Doug86
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* In one episode of ''IAmWeasel'', Weasel and Baboon use a bike so fast it exceeds the speed of light in which they find in AnotherDimension where the living beings look like ham. I. R. Baboon tries to eat one even after the beings explain they aren't really ham, they simply appear as such to their minds.
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* In one episode of ''IAmWeasel'', ''WesternAnimation/IAmWeasel'', Weasel and Baboon use a bike so fast it exceeds the speed of light in which they find in AnotherDimension where the living beings look like ham. I. R. Baboon tries to eat one even after the beings explain they aren't really ham, they simply appear as such to their minds.
19th Dec '15 1:31:41 PM Mr.Bubbles
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* Sleep. When you do it, it might feel like a sudden stop and start, but your brain doesn't actually shut down. You simply lose conscious control for anywhere from a few minutes to several hours while your body acts on its own, maintaining its vitals and keeping you busy with dreams until you wake back up. Most of what happens then doesn't even stick and will be forgotten the moment you wake up. Since the brain is still active, we don't even know the true purpose of sleep in the first place.
18th Dec '15 11:05:17 PM Uyyy
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* The concept of CessationOfExistence after death. Try and imagine what true oblivion is - you perceive nothing, you feel nothing, you remember nothing, and you ''ARE'' nothing. You can't. You simply can't.
1st Dec '15 8:55:56 AM TheNerfGuy
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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' has the Obyriths, the primordial race of demons spawned by the Abyss eons before life arose on the Material Plane. Their bizarre, horrifyingly-alien appearances grant the Obyriths an ability called "Form of Madness," which causes anyone who so much as ''glances'' at them to be afflicted by an oftentimes permanent type of insanity (phobias, feelings of being consumed by insects, etc). ** It's actually even worse than that. It is explicitly stated that you don't even have to actually see them to be affected as "their presence is an affront to all five senses". Even merely hearing or smelling an obyrith is enough to drive one over the edge.
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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' has the ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' ** The Obyriths, the ''the'' primordial race of demons spawned by the Abyss eons before life arose on the Material Plane. Their bizarre, horrifyingly-alien appearances grant the Obyriths an ability called "Form of Madness," Madness." Their presence is established to be an affront to all five senses, which causes anyone who so much as ''glances'' at ''senses'' them to be afflicted by an oftentimes permanent type of insanity (phobias, feelings of being consumed by insects, etc). ** It's actually even worse than that. It is explicitly stated that you don't even have to actually see them to be affected as "their presence is an affront to all five senses". Even merely hearing or smelling an obyrith is enough to drive one over the edge.etc).

** Even some incredibly powerful forces of Good cannot be viewed safely by mortals. The ''Book of Exalted Deeds'' sourcebook mentions Zaphikiel, the greatest of the Hebdomad and the ruler of Mount Celestia. Only the gods themselves and the other Hebdomad can look upon him safely; anyone else who does so is said to be consumed by his overwhelming radiant energy and destroyed uttely. (Or maybe [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence ascended to a higher form]]; it depends on who you ask.)
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** Even some incredibly powerful forces of Good cannot be viewed safely by mortals. The ''Book of Exalted Deeds'' sourcebook mentions Zaphikiel, the greatest of the Hebdomad and the ruler of Mount Celestia. Only the gods themselves and the other Hebdomad can look upon him safely; anyone else who does so is said to be consumed by his overwhelming radiant energy and destroyed uttely.utterly. (Or maybe [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence ascended to a higher form]]; it depends on who you ask.)
25th Nov '15 2:58:36 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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[[caption-width-right:350: [[HumansAreMorons Apparently, a gigantic purple man is the most complicated form humanity can grasp.]]]]
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[[caption-width-right:350: [[HumansAreMorons Apparently, a gigantic man in a purple man suit and an oversized horned helmet is the most complicated form humanity can grasp.]]]]
22nd Nov '15 6:26:05 PM nombretomado
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* The portals in ''TheSalvationWar'' are very hard for anyone to really comprehend what they are seeing, describing it in completely contradictory terms (for example, one character notes it looks both parallel and perpendicular to the ground). It is mentioned at it at least a seven dimensional object, and what is seen is a best the "shadow" of the real thing. * The WhateleyUniverse is simply packed to the brim with creatures whose true form cannot or should not be perceived by mortals. The character of [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant Nacht]] gives an apt analogy:
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* The portals in ''TheSalvationWar'' ''Literature/TheSalvationWar'' are very hard for anyone to really comprehend what they are seeing, describing it in completely contradictory terms (for example, one character notes it looks both parallel and perpendicular to the ground). It is mentioned at it at least a seven dimensional object, and what is seen is a best the "shadow" of the real thing. * The WhateleyUniverse Literature/WhateleyUniverse is simply packed to the brim with creatures whose true form cannot or should not be perceived by mortals. The character of [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant Nacht]] gives an apt analogy:
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