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19th Jan '17 1:50:20 PM Yandie666
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* In Ludo's rock opera "The Broken Bride" the narrator builds a time machine to go back and save his wife/girlfriend who had died in a car wreck. [[spoiler: After fighting dinosaurs in the past and a zombie apocalypse in the future, he makes it back to his own time, only to find that the same events are occurring as they did before. Instead of saving his girlfriend/wife, he decides to go along for the ride. One can assume they both die, this time.]]
3rd Jan '17 4:49:16 PM SteveMB
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' ("Assignment Earth")

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* The ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' ("Assignment Earth")episode "Assignment Earth" ends with the reveal that the Enterprise's historical records show that a malfunctioning nuclear platform exploded just as it did in the episode, indicating that Gary Seven's mission (complete with Kirk and Spock's interference therewith) was part of their existing timeline.
23rd Dec '16 7:38:13 AM TotalDramaRox97
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* In ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' (2000s revival) episode "Cradle of Darkness", a young woman (played by Katherine Heigl) is one of the few people capable of surviving time travel. She agrees to take a one-way trip to the past to kill Hitler as a baby (it's not clear why the future people think that the new reality will be better). She pretends to be a new maid and ingrains herself into the Hitler family, realizing that Hitler Sr. is the one who taught his son to hate the "lesser races". In the end, she grabs the baby and jumps into the river (also unexplained why she had to jump herself, possibly guilt for killing an as-yet-innocent baby). The other maid, takes a homeless gypsy's baby and passes it off as young Adolf. So yeah, if this is believed, Hitler was one of the "lesser races" he hated so much.

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* In ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' (2000s revival) episode "Cradle of Darkness", a young woman (played by Katherine Heigl) is one of the few people capable of surviving time travel. She agrees to take a one-way trip to the past to kill Hitler as a baby (it's not clear why the future people think that the new reality will be better). She pretends to be a new maid and ingrains herself into the Hitler family, realizing that Hitler Sr. is the one who taught his son to hate the "lesser races". In the end, she grabs the baby and jumps into the river (also unexplained why she had to jump herself, possibly guilt for killing an as-yet-innocent baby).baby, though it was mentioned in the beginning it was a one way trip so it's not like she could get back to her original timeline). The other maid, takes a homeless gypsy's baby and passes it off as young Adolf. So yeah, if this is believed, Hitler was one of the "lesser races" he hated so much.


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* Subverted in ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' a young engineer has a discussion with his fellow rich friends about this topic. He then finds himself back in time to the night of Abraham Lincoln's assassination. He desperately tries to warn everyone that Lincoln will be assassinated, but he's brushed off as drunk and a man named Wellington (who late turns out to be John Wilkes Booth) takes him in. While in his care Wellington drugs him and goes to assassinate Lincoln. When the engineer wakes up, the president is shot mere moments later and he discovers the man who drugged him was in fact John Wilkes Booth. When he goes back to his original timeline, he discovers he did actually change one thing. The police officer who believed him and tried to save the president got promoted to chief of police then a councilman and later became a millionaire allowing his descendant (who in the original timeline was an attendant at club the engineer was a part of) to inherit his fortune.
** Played straight in "No Time Like The Past" where after a scientist fails several times to change history, he decides to go back to a time where there were no issues, 1888. Upon realizing there will be a fire at the school so he tries to stop it, but when a horse and buggy swerves to avoid hitting him, it launches a lantern which hits the school causing the aforementioned fire.
25th Nov '16 5:23:07 PM Eddy1215
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* Played with in WesternAnimation/BeastWars. While it is entirely possible to change the past and thus the future, thus finally answering Dinobot's soul searching about the nature of time travel and what that means for free will (if the past is immutable, than our ability to choose anything is a cosmic illusion). By changing the past, Dinobot learns that it is possible for an individual's choice to matter to the universe. Ironically however, with this new knowledge, it means that Megatron can change the past for the worst, and that the only choice Dinobot has is to invoke this trope.

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* Played with in WesternAnimation/BeastWars.''WesternAnimation/BeastWars''. While it is entirely possible to change the past and thus the future, thus finally answering Dinobot's soul searching about the nature of time travel and what that means for free will (if the past is immutable, than our ability to choose anything is a cosmic illusion). By changing the past, Dinobot learns that it is possible for an individual's choice to matter to the universe. Ironically however, with this new knowledge, it means that Megatron can change the past for the worst, and that the only choice Dinobot has is to invoke this trope.



* ''¡Mucha Lucha!'': in ''Woulda Coulda Hasbeena'', Señor Hasbeena uses a time portal to go back to 1972 and prevent a flash of light that briefly blinded him and killed his career as a professional luchador. Ricochet, Buena Girl, and Flea try to stop him because his time travel is altering the present and, in the ensuing fight, present-day Señor Hasbeena uses a signature move that creates the very flash of light that ruined him in the past.

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* ''¡Mucha Lucha!'': ''WesternAnimation/MuchaLucha'': in ''Woulda Coulda Hasbeena'', Señor Hasbeena uses a time portal to go back to 1972 and prevent a flash of light that briefly blinded him and killed his career as a professional luchador. Ricochet, Buena Girl, and Flea try to stop him because his time travel is altering the present and, in the ensuing fight, present-day Señor Hasbeena uses a signature move that creates the very flash of light that ruined him in the past.
13th Nov '16 4:43:31 PM nombretomado
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* Used on an episode of ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. Brainiac 5 imports heroes from the past because history mentioned an incident where heroes traveled to the future. He tries to avoid mentioning how it turned out, of course, just to be sure things go the way they're supposed to, with only two of the three returning. [[spoiler:Nobody dies. Supergirl just decides to stay in the future.]]

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* Used on an episode of ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited''.''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. Brainiac 5 imports heroes from the past because history mentioned an incident where heroes traveled to the future. He tries to avoid mentioning how it turned out, of course, just to be sure things go the way they're supposed to, with only two of the three returning. [[spoiler:Nobody dies. Supergirl just decides to stay in the future.]]
26th Oct '16 7:24:17 AM Tightwire
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* The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is like this, specifically of the StableTimeLoop variety - the war that [[spoiler:Brainstorm]] invents time travel to prevent turns out to have been DIRECTLY caused by his time travel. On top of this, he was created ''because'' of the war, and had sold himself to the Decepticons to fund his project, which was why the crew of the Lost Light believed he was going to kill Optimus and so followed him, only to throw in a few Stable Time Loops of their own. He tries travelling further back in time to avert this, but they follow him to stop him again, and they all just create more time loops in the doing so, which keeps any loops in the future on track. When they all return, nothing in the past has changed and time is as much on track as ever.
** As soon as Rodimus enters the past he starts creating the loops by accident by helping to protect the Hot Spot where he was probably forged even though he didn't have to. When he actively tries to change the future, Fate prevents it.
** Ironically in the next issue, Chromedome has the perfect opportunity to save lives but ''refuses'' to do so because they're not allowed to change the future. Thus this is a form of ''inverted'' time loop - if you don't try, ''of course'' that's the future that will be made.

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* The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is like this, specifically of the StableTimeLoop variety - the war that [[spoiler:Brainstorm]] invents time travel to prevent turns out to have been DIRECTLY caused by his time travel. On top of this, he was created ''because'' of the war, and had sold himself to the Decepticons to fund his project, which was why the crew of our heroes on the Lost Light believed he was going to kill Optimus and so followed him, only to throw in a few Stable Time Loops of their own. He tries travelling further back in time to avert this, but they follow him to stop him again, and they all just create more time loops in the doing so, which keeps any loops in the future on track. When they all return, nothing in the past has changed and time is as much on track as ever.
** As soon as Rodimus enters the past he starts creating the loops by accident by helping to protect the Hot Spot where he was probably forged even though he didn't have to. When he actively tries to change the future, Fate prevents it.
** Ironically in the next issue, Chromedome has the perfect opportunity to save lives but ''refuses'' to do so because they're not allowed to change the future. Thus this is a form of ''inverted'' time loop - if you don't try, ''of course'' that's the future that will be made.
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26th Oct '16 5:00:49 AM Tightwire
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* The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is like this, specifically of the StableTimeLoop variety - the war that [[spoiler:Brainstorm]] invents time travel to prevent turns out to have been DIRECTLY caused by his time travel. On top of this, he was created ''because'' of the war, and had sold himself to the Decepticons to fund his project, which was why the crew of the Lost Light believed he was going to kill Optimus and so followed him, only to throw in a few Stable Time Loops of their own. He tries travelling further back in time to avert this, but they follow him to stop him again, and they all just create more time loops in the doing so, which keeps any loops in the future on track.
** As soon as Rodimus enters the past he starts creating the loops by helping to protect the Hot Spot where he was probably forged even though he didn't have to.

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* The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is like this, specifically of the StableTimeLoop variety - the war that [[spoiler:Brainstorm]] invents time travel to prevent turns out to have been DIRECTLY caused by his time travel. On top of this, he was created ''because'' of the war, and had sold himself to the Decepticons to fund his project, which was why the crew of the Lost Light believed he was going to kill Optimus and so followed him, only to throw in a few Stable Time Loops of their own. He tries travelling further back in time to avert this, but they follow him to stop him again, and they all just create more time loops in the doing so, which keeps any loops in the future on track.
track. When they all return, nothing in the past has changed and time is as much on track as ever.
** As soon as Rodimus enters the past he starts creating the loops by accident by helping to protect the Hot Spot where he was probably forged even though he didn't have to.to. When he actively tries to change the future, Fate prevents it.
26th Oct '16 4:45:17 AM Tightwire
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* The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is packed with this. Brainstorm intends to prevent the war by stopping Megatron from becoming evil - his crewmates think he intends to win the war by killing Optimus, which is why they follow. Brainstorm's time travel causes the evacuation on a mining asteroid which resulted in Megatron losing his mentor and making his first kill, then leads the others back to where ''they'' are the cause of the first brawl Megatron was arrested in, leading to Whirl beating him up and demonstrating the power of violence. Right outside, Chromedome prevents Rewind from changing the future by saying "We're not allowed to change the future" even though they could have, but seconds later blurts out this will be Senator Shockwave's location in a year's time - which also keeps the future from changing. Whirl uses Brainstorm's Sparkeater Gun made in the future to create the world's first Sparkeaters, which are part of the reason the Lost Light had its first malfunction. Rung's advice helps stop Brainstorm from shooting out Megatron's original Spark, but Rewind destroys it anyway - Harvested Sparks often belong to mechs who have lower morals - and even so, Whirl uses his clockwork knowledge to replace it with a more honorable Forged Spark. And even then, Time Travel isn't done with...

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* The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is packed with this. Brainstorm intends to prevent like this, specifically of the StableTimeLoop variety - the war by stopping Megatron from becoming evil - his crewmates think he intends to win the war by killing Optimus, which is why they follow. Brainstorm's that [[spoiler:Brainstorm]] invents time travel causes the evacuation on a mining asteroid which resulted in Megatron losing to prevent turns out to have been DIRECTLY caused by his mentor and making his first kill, then leads the others back to where ''they'' are the cause time travel. On top of this, he was created ''because'' of the first brawl Megatron war, and had sold himself to the Decepticons to fund his project, which was arrested in, leading why the crew of the Lost Light believed he was going to Whirl beating kill Optimus and so followed him, only to throw in a few Stable Time Loops of their own. He tries travelling further back in time to avert this, but they follow him up to stop him again, and demonstrating they all just create more time loops in the power of violence. Right outside, doing so, which keeps any loops in the future on track.
** As soon as Rodimus enters the past he starts creating the loops by helping to protect the Hot Spot where he was probably forged even though he didn't have to.
** Ironically in the next issue,
Chromedome prevents Rewind from changing has the future by saying "We're perfect opportunity to save lives but ''refuses'' to do so because they're not allowed to change the future" even though they could have, but seconds later blurts out future. Thus this will be Senator Shockwave's location in is a year's form of ''inverted'' time loop - which also keeps if you don't try, ''of course'' that's the future from changing. Whirl uses Brainstorm's Sparkeater Gun made in the future to create the world's first Sparkeaters, which are part of the reason the Lost Light had its first malfunction. Rung's advice helps stop Brainstorm from shooting out Megatron's original Spark, but Rewind destroys it anyway - Harvested Sparks often belong to mechs who have lower morals - and even so, Whirl uses his clockwork knowledge to replace it with a more honorable Forged Spark. And even then, Time Travel isn't done with...that will be made.
24th Oct '16 11:51:23 AM Emperor_Oshron
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* ''¡Mucha Lucha!'': in ''Woulda Coulda Hasbeena'', Señor Hasbeena uses a time portal to go back to 1972 and prevent a flash of light that briefly blinded him and killed his career as a professional luchador. Ricochet, Buena Girl, and Flea try to stop him because his time travel is altering the present and, in the ensuing fight, present-day Señor Hasbeena uses a signature move that creates the very flash of light that ruined him in the past.
16th Oct '16 3:21:52 PM Tightwire
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* In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', Brainstorm intends to prevent the war by killing Megatron - his crewmates think he intends to win the war by killing Optimus, which is why they follow. Brainstorm's time travel causes the evacuation on a mining asteroid which resulted in Megatron making his first kill, then leads the others back to where ''they'' are the cause of the brawl Megatron was arrested in, leading to Whirl beating him up and demonstrating the power of violence. Meanwhile, Chromedome prevents Rewind from changing the future by saying "We're not allowed to change the future" even though they could have, but seconds later blurts out this will be Senator Shockwave's location in a year's time - which also keeps the future from changing.

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* In ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'', The time travel of ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMoreThanMeetsTheEye'' is packed with this. Brainstorm intends to prevent the war by killing stopping Megatron from becoming evil - his crewmates think he intends to win the war by killing Optimus, which is why they follow. Brainstorm's time travel causes the evacuation on a mining asteroid which resulted in Megatron losing his mentor and making his first kill, then leads the others back to where ''they'' are the cause of the first brawl Megatron was arrested in, leading to Whirl beating him up and demonstrating the power of violence. Meanwhile, Right outside, Chromedome prevents Rewind from changing the future by saying "We're not allowed to change the future" even though they could have, but seconds later blurts out this will be Senator Shockwave's location in a year's time - which also keeps the future from changing.changing. Whirl uses Brainstorm's Sparkeater Gun made in the future to create the world's first Sparkeaters, which are part of the reason the Lost Light had its first malfunction. Rung's advice helps stop Brainstorm from shooting out Megatron's original Spark, but Rewind destroys it anyway - Harvested Sparks often belong to mechs who have lower morals - and even so, Whirl uses his clockwork knowledge to replace it with a more honorable Forged Spark. And even then, Time Travel isn't done with...
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