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18th Apr '17 8:20:13 PM Eddy1215
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* In ''WebComic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', The High Priest of Hei [[spoiler:i.e the vampire spirit controlling Durkon's body]] is a crafty master at this. [[spoiler:When Roy didn't take a vague hint of the location of the Godsmoot, they were fortunate enough to meet one of the clerics going to the meeting. When Roy learned his true colors, the High Priest used both a BreakingSpeech and a protective spell to keep Roy at bay until the vote was complete. When the vote ended in a tie, he had a backup plan in the works to enable him to rig the vote, and had created a new High Priest to take his place so that Hei's vote would still count]].



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12th Apr '17 12:37:47 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* [[Literature/SherlockHolmes Professor Moriarty]] is TheChessmaster in the season 1 finale for ''Fanfic/ChildrenOfTime'' and changes his plans according to every shift in circumstances to meet his goals, but [[WesternAnimation/SherlockHolmesInTheTwentySecondCentury Beth Lestrade]] is the player with the most moves throughout the three episodes. [[TheHero She]] gambits with Holmes, the entire [[Series/DoctorWho Time/Space Continuum]], and Moriarty and Moran, moving from half-formed plans to well-plotted schemes to going in blind. When something goes wrong, she might blank out for a few minutes but she will adjust accordingly. Better still, [[spoiler:her gambits win more than anyone else's...]]

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* *''Fanfic/ChildrenOfTime'': [[Literature/SherlockHolmes Professor Moriarty]] is TheChessmaster in the season 1 finale for ''Fanfic/ChildrenOfTime'' and changes his plans according to every shift in circumstances to meet his goals, but [[WesternAnimation/SherlockHolmesInTheTwentySecondCentury Beth Lestrade]] is the player with the most moves throughout the three episodes. [[TheHero She]] gambits with Holmes, the entire [[Series/DoctorWho Time/Space Continuum]], and Moriarty and Moran, moving from half-formed plans to well-plotted schemes to going in blind. When something goes wrong, she might blank out for a few minutes but she will adjust accordingly. Better still, [[spoiler:her gambits win more than anyone else's...]]



** ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'': Grand Admiral Thrawn. Of course. He was tripped up by some [[DidntSeeThatComing unforeseen elements]] coming together at once, and his initial backup plan in case of death was also thwarted, but damn if he didn't adapt when he could see it. Thrawn also gets credit for recognizing the unforeseen elements possibly being a problem...he just didn't have a plan for them YET.

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** ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'': Grand Admiral Thrawn. Of course. He was tripped up by some [[DidntSeeThatComing unforeseen elements]] coming together at once, and his initial backup plan in case of death was also thwarted, but damn if he didn't adapt when he could see it. Thrawn also gets credit for recognizing the unforeseen elements possibly being a problem...he just didn't have a plan for them YET.



* BigBad Ublaz Mad Eyes and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] Rasconza play this in ''[[{{Literature/Redwall}} Pearls of Lutra]]''.

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* %%* BigBad Ublaz Mad Eyes and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] Rasconza play this in ''[[{{Literature/Redwall}} Pearls of Lutra]]''.



* The Denarians in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' are rather distressingly good at this. However, Harry's getting progressively better and better at it as well, meaning he can still crash their plans despite now being factored into them.
** Debatable. It's been noted that, with the exception of Nicodemus, the Denarians immortality and massive experience lend themselves greatly to their ability to plan but makes them horrible at improvisation.

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Denarians in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' are rather distressingly good at this. However, Harry's getting progressively better and better at it as well, meaning he can still crash their plans despite now being factored into them.
** Debatable.
a inversion. It's been noted that, with the exception of Nicodemus, the Denarians immortality and massive experience lend themselves greatly to their ability to plan but makes them horrible at improvisation.



* [[Literature/TheWheelOfTime Moiraine Damodred]] never has trouble manipulating everyone around her even when they are [[YouCantFightFate ta'veren]]and aware she is manipulating them. When she ADMITS she is manipulating them, they only seem more compliant. The best example has to be when she goes through the ter'angreal to fulfill the prophecy about her needing to die to save the [[AGodAmI hero]] but [[spoiler: she is rescued from the dimension she'd been trapped in with another well laid plan.]]

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* [[Literature/TheWheelOfTime ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'': Moiraine Damodred]] Damodred never has trouble manipulating everyone around her even when they are [[YouCantFightFate ta'veren]]and aware she is manipulating them. When she ADMITS she is manipulating them, they only seem more compliant. The best example has to be when she goes through the ter'angreal to fulfill the prophecy about her needing to die to save the [[AGodAmI hero]] but [[spoiler: she is rescued from the dimension she'd been trapped in with another well laid plan.]]



* Common in the Literature/DreamPark novels, especially ''The California Voodoo Game''.
* While [[Literature/BelisariusSeries Belisarius]] demonstrates an awe-inspiring level of long-term strategic planning (several of the characters realize that he'd set up the endgame of the war several years,and five books, before, ahead of it actually ''starting''), on a tactical level he's constantly improvising on the fly and leaving everyone in the dust.

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* %%* Common in the Literature/DreamPark novels, especially ''The California Voodoo Game''.
* While [[Literature/BelisariusSeries Belisarius]] demonstrates an awe-inspiring level of long-term strategic planning (several of the characters realize that he'd set up the endgame of the war several years,and five books, before, ahead of it actually ''starting''), %%* ''Literature/BelisariusSeries'': Belisarius on a tactical level he's is constantly improvising on the fly and leaving everyone in the dust.fly.



* Haymitch Abernathy of ''Literature/TheHungerGames'' either plays this or the IndyPloy most days, assuming he's sober.

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* %%* Haymitch Abernathy of ''Literature/TheHungerGames'' either plays this or the IndyPloy most days, assuming he's sober.



* The Duke of Taunton in the ''Literature/VillageTales'' series is a Grand Master. There are no crises and no setbacks: merely opportunities to exploit. Well: if one is the sort of chap who can think rings around everyone else combined.

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* ''Literature/VillageTales'': The Duke of Taunton in the ''Literature/VillageTales'' series is a Grand Master. There are sees no crises and no setbacks: merely opportunities to exploit. Well: if one is the sort of chap who can think rings around everyone else combined.




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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': Tasio the Trickster makes long terms plans but all of them have vague and flexible areas so he can adjust as necessary. He calls this "planning something of that nature". Being an advocate of free will, it also allows him to incorporate the wishes of the people his plan relies on.



* Kotomine of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a pretty good one of these in Heavens Feel. Plan A: start with sending Lancer to figure out who everyone is, where they are and how strong. [[spoiler:Crap, after roflstomping True Assassin he got his heart pulled out and eaten.]] Ok, uh, well we still have Gilgamesh, and he's pissed about the serial killings going on. [[spoiler:Damnit, he got eaten too.]] Fine, we'll set up [[spoiler:Sakura, the monster eating everyone]] to turn into the gate and destroy the world. Uh oh, the [[MacGuffinTurnedHuman Core of the Grail]] just got hijacked, time to [[EnemyMine team up with Shirou to recover it.]] Oops, True Assassin came after him and humans can't kill Servants with the tools he has. [[spoiler:Guess we'll destroy Zouken's body, using my fake heart as a decoy and ''then'' drive off Assassin.]] Woops, the Grail doesn't like me and [[spoiler: just destroyed my heart.]] And, breaking the narration, he still makes it to the end of the path and ''still'' nearly unleashes a plan that is in fact ''much worse'' than the scale of what he was trying in the first two. Plus, Shirou's ideology has been neatly discarded, and Kotomine really hated it.

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''
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Kotomine of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' has a pretty good one of these in Heavens Feel. Plan A: start with sending Lancer to figure out who everyone is, where they are and how strong. [[spoiler:Crap, after roflstomping True Assassin he got his heart pulled out and eaten.]] Ok, uh, well we still have Gilgamesh, and he's pissed about the serial killings going on. [[spoiler:Damnit, he got eaten too.]] Fine, we'll set up [[spoiler:Sakura, the monster eating everyone]] to turn into the gate and destroy the world. Uh oh, the [[MacGuffinTurnedHuman Core of the Grail]] just got hijacked, time to [[EnemyMine team up with Shirou to recover it.]] Oops, True Assassin came after him and humans can't kill Servants with the tools he has. [[spoiler:Guess we'll destroy Zouken's body, using my fake heart as a decoy and ''then'' drive off Assassin.]] Woops, the Grail doesn't like me and [[spoiler: just destroyed my heart.]] And, breaking the narration, he still makes it to the end of the path and ''still'' nearly unleashes a plan that is in fact ''much worse'' than the scale of what he was trying in the first two. Plus, Shirou's ideology has been neatly discarded, and Kotomine really hated it.



* [[WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra Zaheer]] and the rest of the [[WellIntentionedExtremist Red Lotus]] straddle the line between this trope and the IndyPloy. Over the course of their tenure as villains, they seem to frequently change their plans on the fly, and generally succeed at whatever their newly improvised plan is....but they also display [[MissingStepsPlan a notable lack of foresight]], which ultimately leads to their defeat, and [[PyrrhicVillainy the group ultimately accomplishing the exact opposite of what they intended]] as a result. They exhibit great short-term planning, but [[DidntThinkThisThrough very flawed long-term planning]].

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* [[WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra Zaheer]] ''WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra'': Zaheer and the rest of the [[WellIntentionedExtremist Red Lotus]] straddle the line between this trope and the IndyPloy. Over the course of their tenure as villains, they seem to frequently change their plans on the fly, and generally succeed at whatever their newly improvised plan is....but they also display [[MissingStepsPlan a notable lack of foresight]], which ultimately leads to their defeat, and [[PyrrhicVillainy the group ultimately accomplishing the exact opposite of what they intended]] as a result. They exhibit great short-term planning, but [[DidntThinkThisThrough very flawed long-term planning]].



* The German strategist Helmuth von Moltke the Elder once said "No plan survives first contact with the enemy." This quote is usually used to mean that the victorious general is the one who is better at playing Xanatos Speed Chess. Molkte himself preferred being CrazyPrepared. Plan A will not survive first contact, so develop a Plan B for every single point of failure, then a fallback Plan C, and then develop some excess capacity in case none of your fifty plans is working.

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* The German strategist Helmuth von Moltke the Elder once said "No plan survives first contact with the enemy." This quote is usually used to mean that the victorious general is the one who is better at playing Xanatos Speed Chess. Molkte himself preferred being CrazyPrepared. Plan A will not survive first contact, so develop a Plan B for every single point of failure, then a fallback Plan C, and then develop some excess capacity in case none of your fifty plans is are working.
8th Apr '17 1:14:11 PM nombretomado
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* BigBad Ublaz Mad Eyes and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] Rasconza play this in ''[[{{Redwall}} Pearls of Lutra]]''.

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* BigBad Ublaz Mad Eyes and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] Rasconza play this in ''[[{{Redwall}} ''[[{{Literature/Redwall}} Pearls of Lutra]]''.
31st Mar '17 12:45:16 PM Prometheus117
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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': Makuta didn't take the rescue of the Matoran of Metru Nui into account, though managed to get past that. When part of his plan called for leaving his body, he didn't expect it to be destroyed by the end, but he still managed to keep his plan going smoothly, [[spoiler: [[GrandTheftMe taking over]] [[AGodAmI Mata Nui's body]] and the Matoran World within it at the end of 2008's arc]].

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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': Makuta didn't take the rescue of the Matoran of Metru Nui into account, though managed to get past that. When part of his plan called for leaving his body, he didn't expect it to be destroyed by the end, but he still managed to keep his plan going smoothly, [[spoiler: [[GrandTheftMe taking over]] [[AGodAmI Mata Nui's body]] and the Matoran World within it at the end of 2008's arc]]. While he did account for the fact that Mata Nui could die from his actions in sending him to sleep, he didn't expect it to actually happen, but he got around that as well by relying on the Toa to bring him back before it was past the point of no return [[spoiler:which even played into his hands by letting him sneak his soul into Mata Nui's body before his own spirit could properly reunite with it]].
26th Mar '17 1:08:14 PM nombretomado
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* Josh and his crew from ''Film/TowerHeist'' (an AffectionateParody of heist films like OceansEleven) start out with a plan, but when things go south Josh proves himself a master of this trope.

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* Josh and his crew from ''Film/TowerHeist'' (an AffectionateParody of heist films like OceansEleven) ''Film/OceansEleven'') start out with a plan, but when things go south Josh proves himself a master of this trope.
16th Mar '17 10:49:22 AM nombretomado
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* Helen Narbon, of ''{{Narbonic}}'', is another case where the fanbase--and even the characters in the strip--are never fully certain if Helen is playing Xanatos Speed Chess, GambitRoulette, or if she's just luckier than anyone has any right to be. At several points, it seems Helen, herself, is not certain.

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* Helen Narbon, of ''{{Narbonic}}'', ''{{Webcomic/Narbonic}}'', is another case where the fanbase--and even the characters in the strip--are never fully certain if Helen is playing Xanatos Speed Chess, GambitRoulette, or if she's just luckier than anyone has any right to be. At several points, it seems Helen, herself, is not certain.
7th Mar '17 1:12:31 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Part of Littlefinger's strategy appears to be fomenting chaos and reacting to opportunities as they present themselves.
24th Jan '17 2:58:17 AM flodoris
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** Tobi ends up sliding into this category by default. His attempts at gambits and roulette have a tendency to fall apart, allowing him to only make small amounts of progress with each ploy.
** His mentor, Madara, plays the same game. When reunited after two decades, they subtly maneuvered against one another until it was time to [[spoiler:seal the Juubi]], at which point both began openly moving against the other to come out on top.

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** Tobi ends up sliding into this category by default. His attempts [[spoiler:aka Obito Uchiha]] showed very good skills in this. While at gambits first sight it would look like he planned everything that has happened in the series, he is in fact very accomplished in cutting his losses and roulette have a tendency to fall apart, allowing creating new plans out of his ass as the situation demands. Hell, around 5% of the things happening during Fourth Shinobi World War were in his initial plans and he is still at the top of the game. [[spoiler: He was fairly miffed about Kabuto bringing the real Madara Uchiha onto the battlefield, as it forced him to only make small amounts of progress with each ploy.
drop his DeadPersonImpersonation gambit, and even more miffed when Itachi ended Edo Tensei and it meant that Madara freed from control Edo Tensei and will soon be here. But he had back-up plans for that anyway.]]
** [[spoiler: His mentor, Madara, Madara Uchiha, plays the same game. game (though he is still greater OpportunisticBastard than this). When they reunited after two decades, they subtly maneuvered against one another until it was time to [[spoiler:seal seal the Juubi]], Ten-Tails, at which point both began openly moving against the other to come out on top.]]
28th Dec '16 8:44:07 PM Mr.Guye
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Justice}}'', a character explicitly thinks that the difference between the heroes' plan and Brainaic's is that the heroes are expecting things to go wrong.

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* In ''Comicbook/{{Justice}}'', a character explicitly thinks that the difference between the heroes' plan and Brainaic's Brainiac's is that the heroes are expecting things to go wrong.
14th Dec '16 3:42:30 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** [[ArchEnemy The Master]] has his own knack for turning bad situations to his advantage -- witness [[spoiler:his magnificent comeback from ''accidentally'' destroying about a quarter of the universe to holding the rest to ransom]] in "Logopolis". And in the first part of "The End of Time", [[spoiler:after his scheme to come BackFromTheDead went awry, killing his support network and causing him to [[CameBackWrong Come Back Wrong]], and he gets kidnapped by someone who wants his help with fixing some AppliedPhlebotinum, he quickly hatches and executes a scheme to take control of said Phlebotinum and use it to take over the world. He succeeds]]. Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler: he gets [[OutGambit out-gambitted]] by Rassilon, Lord President of the Time Lords, who fixes the population of Earth with a wave of his hand. He then proceeds to tell the Master he's [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlived his usefulness]] and, well, the Master [[HeroicSacrifice decides to take his revenge]].]]

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** [[ArchEnemy The Master]] has his own knack for turning bad situations to his advantage -- witness [[spoiler:his magnificent comeback from ''accidentally'' destroying about a quarter of the universe to holding the rest to ransom]] in "Logopolis". "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis Logopolis]]". And in the first part of "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time", Time]]", [[spoiler:after his scheme to come BackFromTheDead went awry, killing his support network and causing him to [[CameBackWrong Come Back Wrong]], and he gets kidnapped by someone who wants his help with fixing some AppliedPhlebotinum, he quickly hatches and executes a scheme to take control of said Phlebotinum and use it to take over the world. He succeeds]]. Unfortunately for him, [[spoiler: he gets [[OutGambit out-gambitted]] by Rassilon, Lord President of the Time Lords, who fixes the population of Earth with a wave of his hand. He then proceeds to tell the Master he's [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness outlived his usefulness]] and, well, the Master [[HeroicSacrifice decides to take his revenge]].]]
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