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1st Feb '18 11:07:50 PM ZombieAladdin
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* In the final race of ''Film/SpeedRacer'', Royalton agrees to pay all of the other racers a lot of money if they can collectively prevent Speed from winning the race. As this money is more than the prize money for the race, it effectively means everyone else is cooperating to get Speed to crash or slow him down so someone else could overtake him.
16th Nov '17 7:57:25 PM FRizer
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This is when wanting to avoid letting a particular character be victorious provides fuel for the other character's [[{{Determinator}} persistence]] in fighting against them.

It is a spiteful component of persistence; even when it's the good guys who feel this way about the bad guys, it [[AntiHero raises some form of moral ambiguity that this fuels it]]. On the other hand, this is also used in cases were the character in question winning [[OmnicidalManiac really would be a very]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans bad idea]].

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This is when wanting to avoid letting a particular character be victorious provides fuel for the other character's [[{{Determinator}} persistence]] in fighting against them.

them. In this case, even scoring a "draw" (whenever it's possible) or otherwise not letting the enemy win in any way would suffice; the one with this persistence doesn't have to win, themselves.

It is a spiteful component of persistence; even when it's the good guys who feel this way about the bad guys, it [[AntiHero raises some form of moral ambiguity that this fuels it]]. On the other hand, this is also used in cases were the character in question winning [[OmnicidalManiac really would be a very]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans bad idea]].
idea]] - see also EvilOnlyHasToWinOnce.
10th Aug '17 12:37:06 PM Medinoc
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* In ''Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them'', author Creator/AlFranken says this is one aspect of American politics he deeply hates, calling it the "I-will-stop-you-from-doing-good-because-I-don't-want-you-to-get-credit" factor.

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* In ''Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them'', author Creator/AlFranken says this is one aspect of American politics he deeply hates, calling it the "I-will-stop-you-from-doing-good-because-I-don't-want-you-to-get-credit" factor. A prime example of this would be the Republicans violently opposing their own healthcare idea as soon as UsefulNotes/BarackObama decided to actually implement it.
18th May '17 10:50:38 PM CaptainMegaDong
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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' this is [[FusionDance Stevonnie's]] motive for racing a smug [[JerkAss jerk]]. However, mid-race she falls apart and realizes that she's let him get under her skin, and that focusing on beating him is still giving him attention, which is what he really wants.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' this is [[FusionDance Stevonnie's]] motive for racing a smug [[JerkAss jerk]]. However, mid-race she falls they fall apart and realizes that she's they've let him get under her their skin, and that focusing on beating him is still giving him attention, which is what he really wants.
10th Jan '17 1:13:59 PM Rhodes7
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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' this is [[FusionDance Stevonnie's]] motive for racing a smug [[JerkAss jerk]]. However, mid-race she falls apart and realizes that she's let him get under her skin, and that focusing on beating him is still giving him attention, which is what he really wants.
9th Jan '17 9:30:02 AM falcon2484
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* In ''Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them'', author Creator/AlFranken says this is one aspect of American politics he deeply hates, calling it the "I-will-stop-you-from-doing-good-because-I-don't-want-you-to-get-credit" factor.
28th Jun '16 6:24:38 AM Gregzilla
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* In the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 reboot]], [[spoiler:this gets ''inverted'' as Raiden finds out the prophecy of "[[ArcWords He must win]]" means that Shao Kahn must take over Earth in order for the realms to be saved from Armageddon. Though played straight in the sense that Shao Kahn ''is'' the Armageddon the realms need to be saved from; it's just that, if he is allowed to conquer Earth in the past, then the Elder Gods will destroy him before he can attain godlike power in the BadFuture.]]

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* In the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 reboot]], ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'', [[spoiler:this gets ''inverted'' as Raiden finds out the prophecy of "[[ArcWords He must win]]" means that Shao Kahn must take over Earth in order for the realms to be saved from Armageddon. Though played straight in the sense that Shao Kahn ''is'' the Armageddon the realms need to be saved from; it's just that, if he is allowed to conquer Earth in the past, then the Elder Gods will destroy him [[CheatersNeverProsper for ignoring the rules of Mortal Kombat]] before he can attain godlike power in the BadFuture.]]
4th May '16 4:08:30 PM infernape612
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It is a spiteful component of persistence; even when it's the good guys who feel this way about the bad guys, it [[AntiHero raises some form of moral ambiguity that this fuels it]]. On the other hand, this is also used in cases were the character in question winning [[OmnicidalManiac really would be a very ]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans bad idea]].

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It is a spiteful component of persistence; even when it's the good guys who feel this way about the bad guys, it [[AntiHero raises some form of moral ambiguity that this fuels it]]. On the other hand, this is also used in cases were the character in question winning [[OmnicidalManiac really would be a very ]] very]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans bad idea]].
21st Mar '16 6:43:00 PM bwburke94
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* In the {{Angel}} episode "Destiny," this is Spike's pretty-much-admitted motive for competing with Angel and trying to prove that he has the status of "the Shanshu prophecy's ChosenOne," to the exclusion of Angel.

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* In the {{Angel}} ''Series/{{Angel}}'' episode "Destiny," "Destiny", this is Spike's pretty-much-admitted motive for competing with Angel and trying to prove that he has the status of "the Shanshu prophecy's ChosenOne," ChosenOne" to the exclusion of Angel.
11th Mar '16 10:45:26 AM Thesedaysthosedays
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* In the {{Angel}} episode "Destiny," this is Spike's pretty-much-admitted motive for competing with Angel and trying to prove that he has the status of "the Shanshu prophecy's ChosenOne," to the exclusion of Angel.
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