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4th May '16 4:08:30 PM infernape612
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It is a spiteful component of persistence; even when it's the good guys who feel this way about the bad guys, it [[AntiHero raises some form of moral ambiguity that this fuels it]]. On the other hand, this is also used in cases were the character in question winning [[OmnicidalManiac really would be a very ]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans bad idea]].

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It is a spiteful component of persistence; even when it's the good guys who feel this way about the bad guys, it [[AntiHero raises some form of moral ambiguity that this fuels it]]. On the other hand, this is also used in cases were the character in question winning [[OmnicidalManiac really would be a very ]] very]] [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans bad idea]].
21st Mar '16 6:43:00 PM bwburke94
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* In the {{Angel}} episode "Destiny," this is Spike's pretty-much-admitted motive for competing with Angel and trying to prove that he has the status of "the Shanshu prophecy's ChosenOne," to the exclusion of Angel.

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* In the {{Angel}} ''Series/{{Angel}}'' episode "Destiny," "Destiny", this is Spike's pretty-much-admitted motive for competing with Angel and trying to prove that he has the status of "the Shanshu prophecy's ChosenOne," ChosenOne" to the exclusion of Angel.
11th Mar '16 10:45:26 AM Thesedaysthosedays
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* In the {{Angel}} episode "Destiny," this is Spike's pretty-much-admitted motive for competing with Angel and trying to prove that he has the status of "the Shanshu prophecy's ChosenOne," to the exclusion of Angel.
1st Mar '16 5:58:28 PM Adept
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* In many of the ''WebVideo/SmoshGames'' Game Bang, the crew would try to team up against Sohinki to stop him from winning all the time. Usually doesn't work though, since the cast tend to have a bad team work and ended up killing each other all the time.

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* In many of the ''WebVideo/SmoshGames'' Game Bang, the crew would try to team up against Sohinki (or just anyone who has the best lead, really) to stop him from winning all the time. Usually doesn't work though, since the cast group tend to have a bad team work and ended up killing each other all the time.
26th Feb '16 8:21:53 PM Adept
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* In many of the ''WebVideo/SmoshGames'' Game Bang, the crew would try to team up against Sohinki to stop him from winning all the time. Usually doesn't work though, since the cast tend to have a bad team work and ended up killing each other all the time.
19th Dec '15 4:58:53 AM StFan
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->'''Rarity:''' Oh Fluttershy, would you be a dear and ''fly faster please!''
->'''Fluttershy:''' I can't!
->'''Twilight:''' If you can't catch [Rainbow Dash], Discord wins!
->'''Fluttershy:''' That big... dumb... MEANIE!
-->- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sspE4a6gpmE This]] scene from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''

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->'''Rarity:''' Oh Fluttershy, would you be a dear and ''fly faster please!''
->'''Fluttershy:'''
please!''\\
'''Fluttershy:'''
I can't!
->'''Twilight:'''
can't!\\
'''Twilight:'''
If you can't catch [Rainbow Dash], Discord wins!
->'''Fluttershy:'''
wins!\\
'''Fluttershy:'''
That big... dumb... MEANIE!
-->- [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sspE4a6gpmE This]] scene from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E2TheReturnOfHarmonyPart2 "The Return of Harmony Part 2"]]



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* Batman's insistence in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' on not letting SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker win [[spoiler:is what drives him to make a ZeroApprovalGambit in order to preserve Harvey Dent's image.]]

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* Batman's insistence in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' on not letting SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker win [[spoiler:is what drives him to make a ZeroApprovalGambit in order to preserve Harvey Dent's image.]]
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-->'''Lydon:''' Iím working on next monthís Oscar nominations. Any preference?
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking Man:''' I couldnít care less. What I donít want to see is the Bills winning the Super Bowl. As long as Iím alive, that doesnít happen.
-->'''Jones:''' Thatíll be tough, sir. Buffalo wants it bad.
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking Man:''' So did the Soviets in í80.
-->'''Jones:''' What are you saying? That you rigged the Olympic hockey game?
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking Man:''' Whatís the matter? Donít you believe in miracles?

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-->'''Lydon:''' Iím I'm working on next monthís month's Oscar nominations. Any preference?
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking
preference?\\
'''Cigarette-Smoking
Man:''' I couldnít couldn't care less. What I donít don't want to see is the Bills winning the Super Bowl. As long as Iím I'm alive, that doesnít happen.
-->'''Jones:''' Thatíll
doesn't happen.\\
'''Jones:''' That'll
be tough, sir. Buffalo wants it bad.
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking
bad.\\
'''Cigarette-Smoking
Man:''' So did the Soviets in í80.
-->'''Jones:'''
'80.\\
'''Jones:'''
What are you saying? That you rigged the Olympic hockey game?
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking
game?\\
'''Cigarette-Smoking
Man:''' Whatís What's the matter? Donít Don't you believe in miracles?

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* In the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 reboot]], [[spoiler:this gets ''inverted'' as Raiden finds out the prophecy of "[[ArcWords He must win]]" means that Shao Kahn must take over Earth in order for the realms to be saved from Armageddon. Though played straight in the sense that Shao Kahn ''is'' the Armageddon the realms need to be saved from; it's just that, if he is allowed to conquer Earth in the past, then the Elder Gods will destroy him before he can attain godlike power in the BadFuture.]]
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** Behzinga also gets this treatment in various non-''GTA'' games without KSI.

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* In the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 reboot]], [[spoiler:this gets ''inverted'' as Raiden finds out the prophecy of "[[ArcWords He must win]]" means that Shao Kahn must take over Earth in order for the realms to be saved from Armageddon. Though played straight in the sense that Shao Kahn ''is'' the Armageddon the realms need to be saved from; it's just that, if he is allowed to conquer Earth in the past, then the Elder Gods will destroy him before he can attain godlike power in the BadFuture.]]

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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' two-parter "Return Of Harmony" has Fluttershy flying faster on being told the alternative is to let Discord win.

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** * Behzinga also gets this treatment in various non-''GTA'' games without KSI.

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* In the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 reboot]], [[spoiler:this gets ''inverted'' as Raiden finds out the prophecy of "[[ArcWords He must win]]" means that Shao Kahn must take over Earth in order for the realms to be saved from Armageddon. Though played straight in the sense that Shao Kahn ''is'' the Armageddon the realms need to be saved from; it's just that, if he is allowed to conquer Earth in the past, then the Elder Gods will destroy him before he can attain godlike power in the BadFuture.]]

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''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
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The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' two-parter "Return Of "The Return of Harmony" has Fluttershy flying faster on being told the alternative is to let Discord win.



* Plankton of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' is a conniving sociopath who usually wants to steal the Krabby Patty formula and take Mr Krabs' hard earned success. However, even when Plankton is using legitimate methods to gain customers, Krabs is insistant on sabotaging any profit he makes and claiming it for himself. This reached such obsessive grounds that Krabs became obsessed with destroying Plankton when he gained ''one customer'', making it not just a case of "X Must Not Win" but "X Must Not Lose Humbly".
* Kyle's feud with Cartman in ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is usually justified given the latter's highly malicious intent. However even in petty wars, Kyle takes a sometimes disturbing extra mile to make sure Cartman's plans go up in smoke. eg. In "Douche And Turd" he and Cartman create opposing school mascots, with Kyle using increasingly manipulative methods to get people to vote against Cartman's candidate. Similarly ''a lot'' of Cartman's intentions are built around making Kyle lose.
-->'''Butters:''' Whoa, you sure seem with it, Eric. You must have some... ih-inspiration.
-->'''Cartman:''' Yes, the tears of Kyle Broflovski when he loses his ten dollars to me.

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* Plankton of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' is a conniving sociopath who usually wants to steal the Krabby Patty formula and take Mr Krabs' hard earned success. However, even when Plankton is using legitimate methods to gain customers, Krabs is insistant on sabotaging any profit he makes and claiming it for himself. This reached such obsessive grounds that Krabs became obsessed with destroying Plankton when he gained ''one customer'', making it not just a case of "X Must Not Win" but "X Must Not Lose Humbly".
* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'':
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Kyle's feud with Cartman in ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is usually justified given the latter's highly malicious intent. However even in petty wars, Kyle takes a sometimes disturbing extra mile to make sure Cartman's plans go up in smoke. eg. In "Douche And and Turd" he and Cartman create opposing school mascots, with Kyle using increasingly manipulative methods to get people to vote against Cartman's candidate. Similarly ''a lot'' of Cartman's intentions are built around making Kyle lose.
-->'''Butters:''' --->'''Butters:''' Whoa, you sure seem with it, Eric. You must have some... ih-inspiration.
-->'''Cartman:'''
ih-inspiration.\\
'''Cartman:'''
Yes, the tears of Kyle Broflovski when he loses his ten dollars to me.



*** And for more Cartman, in "Fat Butt and Pancake Head," Cartman pretends he (or his hand, at least) is Music/JenniferLopez. "Ms. Lopez" creates a hit album, gets affectionate with Creator/BenAffleck, and enjoys the wealth and fame of celebrity life via XanatosSpeedChess. The reason is to make Kyle admit the possibility that the hand is an independent living being from Cartman and calls the whole thing off when Kyle makes even the tiniest admission. [[spoiler: In the episode "200," the hand is proven to be an actual separate entity.]]
*** However, when Cartman does win, he's still not satisfied unless he can rub the victory in Kyle's face indefinitely. In [[Recap/SouthParkS6E8RedHotCatholicLove "Red Hot Catholic Love"]], after spending most of the episode gloating over winning their bet (about if it's possible to [[ItMakesSenseInContext crap out of your mouth]]) Kyle being a GracefulLoser makes him so angry he storms off and even leaves the money behind.

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*** ** And for more Cartman, in "Fat Butt and Pancake Head," Cartman pretends he (or his hand, at least) is Music/JenniferLopez. "Ms. Lopez" creates a hit album, gets affectionate with Creator/BenAffleck, and enjoys the wealth and fame of celebrity life via XanatosSpeedChess. The reason is to make Kyle admit the possibility that the hand is an independent living being from Cartman and calls the whole thing off when Kyle makes even the tiniest admission. [[spoiler: In the episode "200," the hand is proven to be an actual separate entity.]]
*** ** However, when Cartman does win, he's still not satisfied unless he can rub the victory in Kyle's face indefinitely. In [[Recap/SouthParkS6E8RedHotCatholicLove "Red Hot Catholic Love"]], after spending most of the episode gloating over winning their bet (about if it's possible to [[ItMakesSenseInContext crap out of your mouth]]) Kyle being a GracefulLoser makes him so angry he storms off and even leaves the money behind.




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* Often times PETA's involvement in a cause will lead many people to oppose the cause more than they would otherwise, simply because they despise the thought of allowing PETA victories.

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* Often times PETA's involvement in a cause will lead many people to oppose the cause more than they would otherwise, simply because they despise the thought of allowing PETA victories.victories.
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18th Dec '15 11:48:43 PM Doug86
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** The most prominent case is in ''ABoyNamedCharlieBrown'', where he is one of the two remaining contestants on a winner-takes-all national spelling bee. Charlie Brown screws up spelling "beagle" due to a combination of Snoopy (who is a beagle) following him along and worry over Linus getting angry at Charlie Brown for a trivial reason.

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** The most prominent case is in ''ABoyNamedCharlieBrown'', ''WesternAnimation/ABoyNamedCharlieBrown'', where he is one of the two remaining contestants on a winner-takes-all national spelling bee. Charlie Brown screws up spelling "beagle" due to a combination of Snoopy (who is a beagle) following him along and worry over Linus getting angry at Charlie Brown for a trivial reason.



* The ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' "Hunting Trilogy" generally convey DaffyDuck as this towards WesternAnimation/BugsBunny. While touting himself as a self proclaimed self preservationist, Daffy takes increasingly stubborn lengths to make sure Bugs gets shot by Elmer Fudd instead of him, to the point of even berating and directing Elmer, the very guy he's trying to avoid, to shoot Bugs (which always end up backfiring onto him). In both "Rabbit Seasoning" and "Duck Rabbit Duck" Daffy's downfall stems from coming out of his hiding place at the start of the cartoon when Bugs is already outsmarting Elmer, not satisfied with coming out safe but Bugs not getting shot.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' "Hunting Trilogy" generally convey DaffyDuck WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck as this towards WesternAnimation/BugsBunny. While touting himself as a self proclaimed self preservationist, Daffy takes increasingly stubborn lengths to make sure Bugs gets shot by Elmer Fudd instead of him, to the point of even berating and directing Elmer, the very guy he's trying to avoid, to shoot Bugs (which always end up backfiring onto him). In both "Rabbit Seasoning" and "Duck Rabbit Duck" Daffy's downfall stems from coming out of his hiding place at the start of the cartoon when Bugs is already outsmarting Elmer, not satisfied with coming out safe but Bugs not getting shot.
12th Dec '15 2:44:28 PM RisefromYourGrave
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* If you replace AH with the Creator/UltimateSidemen, ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' competitions with ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' races, and Gavin with WebVideo/KSIOlajidebt, you will have the same ordeal; a popular British gamer getting screwed over by the rest of his mates.

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* If you replace AH with the Creator/UltimateSidemen, ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' competitions with ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' races, and Gavin with WebVideo/KSIOlajidebt, Creator/{{KSI}}, you will have the same ordeal; a popular British gamer getting screwed over by the rest of his mates.
20th Oct '15 5:32:00 PM randomsurfer
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* In ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': ''TheMagiciansNephew'', Jadis has this attitude towards her sister. She wipes out her entire planet rather than let her sister win a civil war and become queen in her stead.

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* In ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': ''TheMagiciansNephew'', ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'': ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew'', Jadis has this attitude towards her sister. She wipes out her entire planet rather than let her sister win a civil war and become queen in her stead.



* In the ''FatherTed'' episode "Cigarettes and Alcohol and Rollerblading" after being goaded into giving up something for Lent by [[SitcomArchNemesis Father Dick Byrne]], Ted gives Dougal a lecture on the importance of Lent, something far more important than the sacrifices made by Jesus as the latter points out, but beating Dick Byrne at his bet.

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* In the ''FatherTed'' ''Series/FatherTed'' episode "Cigarettes and Alcohol and Rollerblading" after being goaded into giving up something for Lent by [[SitcomArchNemesis Father Dick Byrne]], Ted gives Dougal a lecture on the importance of Lent, something far more important than the sacrifices made by Jesus as the latter points out, but beating Dick Byrne at his bet.
* ''Series/TheXFiles'': In "Musings of a Cigarette-Smoking Man" we discover that CSM is personally responsible for the Buffalo Bills never winning a UsefulNotes/SuperBowl. [[note]]In real life the Bills got into the Super Bowl four times in a row, but never won.[[/note]]
-->'''Lydon:''' Iím working on next monthís Oscar nominations. Any preference?
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking Man:''' I couldnít care less. What I donít want to see is the Bills winning the Super Bowl. As long as Iím alive, that doesnít happen.
-->'''Jones:''' Thatíll be tough, sir. Buffalo wants it bad.
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking Man:''' So did the Soviets in í80.
-->'''Jones:''' What are you saying? That you rigged the Olympic hockey game?
-->'''Cigarette-Smoking Man:''' Whatís the matter? Donít you believe in miracles?
19th Oct '15 9:31:06 PM Blazer
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** In ''WesternAnimation/RaceForYourLifeCharlieBrown'', Charlie Brown's team is set to win the river race, but the bullies sabotage his boat, allowing Woodstock to win.

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** In ''WesternAnimation/RaceForYourLifeCharlieBrown'', Charlie Brown's team is set to win the river race, but Pepperment Patty's overexcitement causes her and the girls to throw the boys overboard, allowing the bullies sabotage his boat, allowing Woodstock to win.slip ahead before LaserGuidedKarma hits them and their boat sinks.
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