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22nd Jul '16 10:54:17 PM ScotieRw
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** Both the settlers and the Native Americans occasionally kidnapped each other's children and tried to convert them, however settlers converting Native American children has always been more likely to be portrayed as "saving them" than the otehr way around.
18th Jul '16 4:20:08 AM Peteman
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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', the Morning War was really a civil war between the quarian minority who protested the extermination of the geth and the rest of the quarians. The quarian dissenters were quickly wiped out, and the surviving quarians pinned the blame on the [[TheScapegoat geth]] who only took up arms in a futile attempt to protect their friends. Tali is naturally very disturbed when she discovers the truth.
4th Jul '16 7:56:27 AM Morgenthaler
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* Invoked by UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill, who is also the TropeNamer

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* Invoked by UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill, who is also the TropeNamerTropeNamer. Indeed, he is the only leader of any of the major powers (those that survived, at any rate) to have written a multi-volume account of the war from his personal perspective.
4th Jul '16 7:40:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* Evoked in ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'': Kevin Lomax tells John Milton that Satan and his progeny lost in the Bible, and they're destined to lose again at the end of time. Milton retorts that ''of course'' the Bible would say that, considering who it's written by.
** The ironic part is that the Bible has very little to say about Satan and "the Heavenly argument", and in earlier Jewish tradition, he was even considered an ally of God. Much of the Satanic role came from later traditions of Christianity and was informed by the poet John Milton's "Paradise Lost", who was famously called "of the devil's party without knowing it".

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* Evoked in ''Film/TheDevilsAdvocate'': Kevin Lomax tells John Milton that Satan and his progeny lost in the Bible, and they're destined to lose again at the end of time. Milton retorts that ''of course'' the Bible would say that, considering who it's written by.
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by. The ironic part is that the Bible has very little to say about Satan and "the Heavenly argument", and in earlier Jewish tradition, he was even considered an ally of God. Much of the Satanic role came from later traditions of Christianity and was informed by the poet John Milton's "Paradise Lost", who was famously called "of the devil's party without knowing it".
4th Jul '16 2:57:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword]] has a rather half-hearted version of this. The prologue states that the Scouring, a brutal war between dragons and humans, began when humans broke the peace for no explained reason. Yet it doesn't go on to question the fact that the human "heroes" of that war are held in religious reverence [[spoiler:and the one who joins your party is something of TheObiWan]].

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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Fire Emblem: The Blazing Sword]] has a rather half-hearted version of this. The prologue states that the Scouring, a brutal war between dragons and humans, began when humans broke the peace for no explained reason. Yet it doesn't go on to question the fact that the human "heroes" of that war are held in religious reverence [[spoiler:and the one who joins your party is something of TheObiWan]].the mentor]].
20th Jun '16 8:38:43 PM PaulA
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** The discourse of the UsefulNotes/NapoleonicWars itself. The British argue that they were defending and liberating Europe from a tyranny, conveniently forgetting that they were the ones who first broke the Treaty of Amiens and started the war, after refusing to honor the terms of the original agreement (removing ships from Malta) and that they were themselves an Empire. Napoleonic supporters emphasize his meritocracy, modernization, secularisation (liberation of Jews from ghettoes) while ignoring the fact that he brought back slavery after Revolutionary France had abolished it, and the large scale colonisation and WarForFunAndProfit that underpined Napoleon's administration.

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** The discourse of the UsefulNotes/NapoleonicWars UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars itself. The British argue that they were defending and liberating Europe from a tyranny, conveniently forgetting that they were the ones who first broke the Treaty of Amiens and started the war, after refusing to honor the terms of the original agreement (removing ships from Malta) and that they were themselves an Empire. Napoleonic supporters emphasize his meritocracy, modernization, secularisation (liberation of Jews from ghettoes) while ignoring the fact that he brought back slavery after Revolutionary France had abolished it, and the large scale colonisation and WarForFunAndProfit that underpined Napoleon's administration.
27th May '16 9:17:31 AM Willbyr
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* In ''ScrappedPrincess'', Earth was conquered by [[spoiler:the aliens]] who then rewrote history, presenting the heroes of LaResistance and LesCollaborateurs as evil and good gods, respectively.

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* In ''ScrappedPrincess'', ''LightNovel/ScrappedPrincess'', Earth was conquered by [[spoiler:the aliens]] who then rewrote history, presenting the heroes of LaResistance and LesCollaborateurs as evil and good gods, respectively.



* ''SaintSeiya'' - Cancer Deathmask subscribes to this theory, but was in the wrong side of the conflict. [[spoiler:However, in the Hades arc, he could've been subscribing to this and just been smart for once.]]
* One of the tools that ''[[TwentiethCenturyBoys 20th Century Boys]]''' [[BigBad Friend]] uses to win over all of Japan [[spoiler:and, later, the rest of the world]]. It's so much easier to be a VillainWithGoodPublicity when the public at large is convinced that ''you'' saved the world [[strike:instead of]] from that RagtagBunchOfMisfits.

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* ''SaintSeiya'' ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' - Cancer Deathmask subscribes to this theory, but was in the wrong side of the conflict. [[spoiler:However, in the Hades arc, he could've been subscribing to this and just been smart for once.]]
* One of the tools that ''[[TwentiethCenturyBoys 20th Century Boys]]''' ''Manga/TwentiethCenturyBoys''' [[BigBad Friend]] uses to win over all of Japan [[spoiler:and, later, the rest of the world]]. It's so much easier to be a VillainWithGoodPublicity when the public at large is convinced that ''you'' saved the world [[strike:instead of]] from that RagtagBunchOfMisfits.
14th May '16 9:23:08 PM damus2300
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* Julius Caesar in ''Series/{{Rome}}'' is a walking, talking example of this.
-->'''Caesar''': "It's only hubris if I fail."
12th May '16 9:33:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' posits that all of history is deliberately distorted by TheKnightsTemplar to strengthen their position, cover up their existence, and vilify the Assassins. This HandWave permits the dev team to stuff the series with exquisite research while still taking creative license with history when necessary for the sake of the story.

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* ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' posits that all of history is deliberately distorted by TheKnightsTemplar UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar to strengthen their position, cover up their existence, and vilify the Assassins. This HandWave permits the dev team to stuff the series with exquisite research while still taking creative license with history when necessary for the sake of the story.



* Knights, albeit they both won and lost various wars, so this is more on them as a social/political class. Much like how we found out more recently with the samurai, the knights in most cases weren't the nicest of people. Sure, the KnightInShiningArmor existed, but they were in no way the majority. Most knights were essentially mercenaries who just happened to be much more heavily armed than the average one. Most nobles didn't trust them as far as they could throw them, King Philip IV of France had [[TheKnightsTemplar the original Knights Templar]] almost completely wiped out (primarily because he didn't want to pay off France's monetary debt to them), with his son having the pope finish the job. From the 10th to 16th centuries, most knights were pretty infamous for being particularly brutal and (ironically) honorless. Some of this did exist in writing from the time, like when Creator/GeoffreyChaucer sneaked in a comment about the sacking of Alexandria in the Knight's Prolouge, which was historically known for a battle where the knights raped and pillaged everything they saw. Most of this part of knight history went away when the knights jazzed up their stories for the nobility. When not officially at war, knights commonly started waging private wars against each other. They were more like rival gangs at times than anything to do with "chivalry".

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* Knights, albeit they both won and lost various wars, so this is more on them as a social/political class. Much like how we found out more recently with the samurai, the knights in most cases weren't the nicest of people. Sure, the KnightInShiningArmor existed, but they were in no way the majority. Most knights were essentially mercenaries who just happened to be much more heavily armed than the average one. Most nobles didn't trust them as far as they could throw them, King Philip IV of France had [[TheKnightsTemplar [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar the original Knights Templar]] almost completely wiped out (primarily because he didn't want to pay off France's monetary debt to them), with his son having the pope finish the job. From the 10th to 16th centuries, most knights were pretty infamous for being particularly brutal and (ironically) honorless. Some of this did exist in writing from the time, like when Creator/GeoffreyChaucer sneaked in a comment about the sacking of Alexandria in the Knight's Prolouge, which was historically known for a battle where the knights raped and pillaged everything they saw. Most of this part of knight history went away when the knights jazzed up their stories for the nobility. When not officially at war, knights commonly started waging private wars against each other. They were more like rival gangs at times than anything to do with "chivalry".
11th May '16 5:42:21 AM jormis29
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* The history of the Realm in ''{{Exalted}}'' proclaims there was a time when the world was ruled over by demonic "Anathema" who harrowed and tormented mankind, and it was only through the overwhelming force of the Dragon-Blooded that they were driven back into the shadows. While this isn't entirely inaccurate from [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity what sometimes happened under the rule of the Solars]], it sure does obscure a lot of the nuances.

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* The history of the Realm in ''{{Exalted}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' proclaims there was a time when the world was ruled over by demonic "Anathema" who harrowed and tormented mankind, and it was only through the overwhelming force of the Dragon-Blooded that they were driven back into the shadows. While this isn't entirely inaccurate from [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity what sometimes happened under the rule of the Solars]], it sure does obscure a lot of the nuances.
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