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3rd Sep '16 10:59:24 PM JMQwilleran
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* In ''Literature/TheBartimaeusTrilogy'', history classes are mandatory for commoners' children, where they're taught a version of history that uplifts the magicians on the side of the British government and casts commoners in general as weak and unable to rule. Foreign governments are vilified, and the Czechs have a particularly bad time of it, this being the ruling government prior to Britain. Questions are generally discouraged and regarded with disdain. Ironically, the government has whitewashed things so thoroughly that even the magicians themselves are never taught the full truth and actually wholeheartedly believe the state line in many things.

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* In ''Literature/TheBartimaeusTrilogy'', history classes are mandatory for commoners' children, where they're taught a version of history that uplifts the magicians on the side of the British government and casts commoners in general as weak and unable to rule. Foreign governments are vilified, and the Czechs have a particularly bad time of it, this being the ruling government prior to Britain. Questions are generally discouraged and regarded with disdain. Ironically, the government has whitewashed things so thoroughly that even the magicians themselves are never taught the full truth and actually wholeheartedly believe the state line in many things. This being ironic because if they did know the real history it would help them identify certain recurring patterns and thus, at least for a time, help them maintain their faltering power.
2nd Sep '16 3:42:42 PM JMQwilleran
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* In ''Literature/TheBartimaeusTrilogy'', history classes are mandatory for commoners' children, where they're taught a version of history that uplifts the magicians on the side of the British government and casts commoners in general as weak and unable to rule. Foreign governments are vilified, and the Czechs have a particularly bad time of it, this being the ruling government prior to Britain. Questions are generally discouraged and regarded with disdain. Ironically, the government has whitewashed things so thoroughly that even the magicians themselves are never taught the full truth and actually wholeheartedly believe the state line in many things.
30th Aug '16 9:30:26 PM PaulA
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* In the ''Series/DoctorWho''VirginNewAdventures novel ''Just War'', the Doctor deconstructs this mindset in a Russian Roulette confrontation with a captured Nazi, pointing out that even if you get to write the history books it doesn't make you and your cause good:

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* In the ''Series/DoctorWho''VirginNewAdventures ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'' novel ''Just War'', the Doctor deconstructs this mindset in a Russian Roulette confrontation with a captured Nazi, pointing out that even if you get to write the history books it doesn't make you and your cause good:
28th Aug '16 7:41:56 PM Ainzee
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** Played with over the events of the Dance of The Dragons, particularly in that there ''were'' no winners. Black history books portray Rhaenyra as a woman trying to reclaim her birthright from a murderous usurper and his scheming mother. Green history books portray her as a mentally unstable harlot who tried to steal the throne from her brother, male-preference primogeniture be damned. In all reality, it's become increasingly clear that they were both mentally unstable murderers, and were [[NotSoDifferent]]. Aegon had Rhaenyra eaten by his dragon ''in front of her son'', as well as having one of his supporters murder Rhaenyra's son for seeking support with the Baratheons. in retaliation, Rhaenyra had two men sneak into the Red Keep and force a mother to choose which of her children she wanted dead, and then proceed to murder ''the other one'', so the living child would spend the rest of his life knowing his mother wanted him dead. What would have happened had either of them kept the throne may never be known, but it probably wouldn't have been good.

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** Played with over the events of the Dance of The Dragons, particularly in that there ''were'' no winners. Black history books portray Rhaenyra as a woman trying to reclaim her birthright from a murderous usurper and his scheming mother. Green history books portray her as a mentally unstable harlot who tried to steal the throne from her brother, male-preference primogeniture be damned. In all reality, it's become increasingly clear that they were both mentally unstable murderers, and were [[NotSoDifferent]].[[NotSoDifferent not so different]]. Aegon had Rhaenyra eaten by his dragon ''in front of her son'', as well as having one of his supporters murder Rhaenyra's son for seeking support with the Baratheons. in retaliation, Rhaenyra had two men sneak into the Red Keep and force a mother to choose which of her children she wanted dead, and then proceed to murder ''the other one'', so the living child would spend the rest of his life knowing his mother wanted him dead. What would have happened had either of them kept the throne may never be known, but it probably wouldn't have been good.
28th Aug '16 7:40:27 PM Ainzee
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** Played with over the events of the Dance of The Dragons, particularly in that there ''were'' no winners. Black history books portray Rhaenyra as a woman trying to reclaim her birthright from a murderous usurper and his scheming mother. Green history books portray her as a mentally unstable harlot who tried to steal the throne from her brother, male-preference primogeniture be damned. In all reality, it's become increasingly clear that they were both mentally unstable murderers, and were [[NotSoDifferent]]. Aegon had Rhaenyra eaten by his dragon ''in front of her son'', as well as having one of his supporters murder Rhaenyra's son for seeking support with the Baratheons. in retaliation, Rhaenyra had two men sneak into the Red Keep and force a mother to choose which of her children she wanted dead, and then proceed to murder ''the other one'', so the living child would spend the rest of his life knowing his mother wanted him dead. What would have happened had either of them kept the throne may never be known, but it probably wouldn't have been good.
16th Aug '16 8:22:36 AM BeerBaron
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* In the ''Series/TheElderScrolls'' backstory, as shown most prominently in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'': Because of [[PlotTriggeringDeath Nerevar's death]], the disappearance of the Dwemer, [[BigBad Dagoth Ur's]] [[KingInTheMountain presumed death]], and the fact that Azura is a [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] who doesn't often openly communicate with mortals, [[PhysicalGod the Tribunal]] were the only ones present for [[TheRashomon the events following the Battle of Red Mountain]] left in a position to declare how the events there took place. As such, the [[CorruptChurch Tribunal Temple's]] ''official'' story about what happened is the most widely accepted version, even though it is clearly the version most full of BlatantLies and [[MetaphoricallyTrue Metaphorical Truths]] out of those that comprise TheRashomon once you've done a little research. All stories to the contrary are considered heresy, kept alive only by the actions of the [[NobleSavage Ashlander]] Nerevarine Cult and the [[DefectorFromDecadence Dissident Priests]].
11th Aug '16 10:24:00 PM PaulA
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* Of the latter, Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Vor Game]]''. Gregor hasn't heard ''any'' of the stories about his father except stuff he could dismiss as propaganda. Miles is able to assure him that the stories he has heard are not all true.

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* Of the latter, Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Vor Game]]''.''Literature/TheVorGame''. Gregor hasn't heard ''any'' of the stories about his father except stuff he could dismiss as propaganda. Miles is able to assure him that the stories he has heard are not all true.
11th Aug '16 5:29:36 PM JackG
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* Subverted in the AlternateHistory novel ''Resurrection Day'', in which the Cuban Missile Crisis turned into WW3. The Soviet Union [[AtomicHate has been obliterated]] and the United States has been reduced to a virtual Third World country. President Kennedy, who died in the war, has been blamed for the situation, but the actual culprit is the GeneralRipper who now runs the US as a military dictatorship. As one character states, in this case history has been written by the survivors.

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* Subverted in the AlternateHistory novel ''Resurrection Day'', in which the Cuban Missile Crisis turned into WW3. The Soviet Union [[AtomicHate has been obliterated]] and while the United States has been reduced to a virtual Third World country. President Kennedy, who died in the war, has been blamed for the situation, but the actual culprit is the GeneralRipper who now runs the US as a military dictatorship. As one character states, in this case history has been written by the survivors.
11th Aug '16 5:27:48 PM JackG
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* Subverted in the AlternateHistory novel ''Resurrection Day'', in which the Cuban Missile Crisis turned into WW3. The Soviet Union [[AtomicHate has been obliterated]] and the United States has been reduced to a virtual Third World country. President Kennedy, who died in the war, has been blamed for the situation, but the actual culprit is the GeneralRipper who now runs the US as a military dictatorship. As one character states, in this case history has been written by the survivors.
10th Aug '16 12:51:50 PM hamza678
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** Both the settlers and the Native Americans occasionally kidnapped each other's children and tried to convert them, however settlers converting Native American children has always been more likely to be portrayed as "saving them" than the otehr way around.

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** Both the settlers and the Native Americans occasionally kidnapped each other's children and tried to convert them, however settlers converting Native American children has always been more likely to be portrayed as "saving them" than the otehr other way around.
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