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23rd May '18 4:49:15 PM lalaTKG
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* Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, where to start? Let's with constantly pushing Website/{{Twitter}}, Website/{{Facebook}} and a near worthless app only to turn around and deride Wrestling/BryanDanielson and Wrestling/LowKi as Internet darlings on NXT because they were vastly more popular, experienced and talented than the rookies they were put on TV with (though Wrestling/MichaelCole deserves some blame too). How about putting on a match between "Donald Trump" and "Rosie O'Donnell" because the two had a spat that got tv time, or maybe making Donald Trump the GM of Raw, or you know, all his attempts to make Donald Trump look awesome up to Donald Trump shaving Vince's head (Hey, TropesAreNotBad)? Then there is his love of the military, which leads to moronic segments like Wrestling/ScottSteiner debating Chris Nowinski as well as touching moments like Smackdown Christmas in Iraq. Then there is his love of incest and bodily orifice jokes, which lead to an angle where Wrestling/MarkHenry slept with his own sister and then impregnated an 80-year-old woman...({{tropes are not good}})

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* Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, where to start? Let's with constantly pushing Website/{{Twitter}}, Website/{{Facebook}} and a near worthless app only to turn around and deride Wrestling/BryanDanielson and Wrestling/LowKi as Internet darlings on NXT because they were vastly more popular, experienced and talented than the rookies they were put on TV with (though Wrestling/MichaelCole deserves some blame too). How about putting on a match between "Donald Trump" and "Rosie O'Donnell" because the two had a spat that got tv time, or maybe making Donald Trump the GM of Raw, or you know, all his attempts to make Donald Trump look awesome up to Donald Trump shaving Vince's head (Hey, TropesAreNotBad)? Then there is his love of the military, which leads to moronic segments like Wrestling/ScottSteiner debating Chris Nowinski as well as touching moments like Smackdown Christmas in Iraq. Then there is his love of incest and bodily orifice jokes, which lead led to an angle where Wrestling/MarkHenry slept with his own sister and then impregnated an 80-year-old woman...({{tropes are not good}})
17th May '18 2:46:41 AM RedScharlach
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** Stan Lee also helped ''Amazing Spider-Man'' avert this trope, as Steve Ditko apparently tried to shoehorn his political views into the story (which were more or less the polar opposite of the book's readership at the time.) Ditko plotted the stories out but Stan wrote the dialog, so a scene with Spidey swinging over a crowd of protestors would be drawn with the intention of having Spider-Man lambast them for their behaviour but Stan would write it so Spidey was ''encouraging'' them. Of course, as in most cases with Ditko, we don't hear his side of it since he's become a ReclusiveArtist and Spiderman's original anti-social personality would not have been a participant in street demonstrations, so one can say that the reverse, Stan Lee putting his beliefs, applies as well.
* Another ''Amazing Spider-Man'' writer Dan Slott has personally expressed his dislike of Parallel Lives, the story which revealed that Mary Jane knew Peter's secret identity from all the way back to ''Amazing Fantasy #15'', arguing that it made a "lie of all the stories that came before" and that it made MJ into someone who fell in love with Peter because he was Spider-Man and not for just being plain old Peter. This is despite the fact that it was stated many times over the years- even as far back as Parallel Lives itself- that MJ was NOT interested in Peter because he was Spider-Man but in spite of it. Then comes along ASM# 652, where Peter and MJ share a moment talking about Peter's current relationship with Carlie Cooper and why he won't tell her his secret. Peter reveals that he wants to make sure that she falls in love because he's just plain ol' Peter, and not because he's Spider-Man as he feels that MJ did with him.

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** Stan Lee also helped ''Amazing Spider-Man'' avert this trope, as Steve Ditko apparently tried to shoehorn his political views into the story (which were more or less the polar opposite of the book's readership at the time.) Ditko plotted the stories out but Stan wrote the dialog, so a scene with Spidey swinging over a crowd of protestors would be drawn with the intention of having Spider-Man lambast them for their behaviour but Stan would write it so Spidey was ''encouraging'' them. Of course, as in most cases with Ditko, we don't hear his side of it since he's become a ReclusiveArtist and Spiderman's original anti-social personality would not have been a participant in street demonstrations, so one can could say that the reverse, Stan Lee putting his in ''his'' beliefs, applies as well.
* Another ''Amazing Spider-Man'' writer Dan Slott has personally expressed his dislike of Parallel Lives, the story which revealed that Mary Jane knew Peter's secret identity from all the way back to ''Amazing Fantasy #15'', arguing that it made a "lie of all the stories that came before" and that it made MJ into someone who fell in love with Peter because he was Spider-Man and not for just being plain old Peter. This is despite the fact that it was stated many times over the years- years -- even as far back as Parallel Lives itself- itself -- that MJ was NOT interested in Peter because he was Spider-Man but in spite of it. Then comes along ASM# 652, where Peter and MJ share a moment talking about Peter's current relationship with Carlie Cooper and why he won't tell her his secret. Peter reveals that he wants to make sure that she falls in love because he's just plain ol' Peter, and not because he's Spider-Man as he feels that MJ did with him.



* During the latter half of Creator/KenPenders' writing stint on ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog, many of the stories either revolved around Penders' own [[DoesntLikeGuns anti-gun views]] or would come to a screeching halt for a few panels for an AuthorFilibuster about the same. An example of the former was an entire story devoted to showing how the great [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Overlander]] vs. [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Mobian]] war began: two children - one Overlander, the other Mobian - meet between the two kingdoms to play, one of them brings a gun one day and accidentally shoots the other while they're horsing around, war engulfs both races, [[VerySpecialEpisode After School Special]] credits roll. An example of the latter has one of the less scrupulous members of the Freedom Fighters ([[spoiler:Fiona, who goes on to betray the team and join the bad guys in a later issue]]) ask why they don't just use guns to solve their current dilemma and is given a verbal bitch-slap by Rotor Walrus about how they have ''never'' used guns and ''never will'' use guns. This sudden MoodWhiplash is made even more jarring by the fact that Bunnie Rabbot, a character that had for a while been wearing six-shooters holstered in a bullet belt up until the issue in question, can be seen in the background, without the pistols but still wearing the belt. Further, not but twenty or thirty issues previous, Rotor had developed a huge bazooka-like laser cannon that purportedly operated much like a [[{{BFG}} hand-held]] WaveMotionGun and which Rotor actually fired ''directly at [[BigBad Dr. Robotnik]]'' at one point.

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* During the latter half of Creator/KenPenders' writing stint on ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog, many of the stories either revolved around Penders' own [[DoesntLikeGuns anti-gun views]] or would come to a screeching halt for a few panels for an AuthorFilibuster about the same. An example of the former was an entire story devoted to showing how the great [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Overlander]] vs. [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Mobian]] war began: two children - one Overlander, the other Mobian - meet between the two kingdoms to play, one of them brings a gun one day and accidentally shoots the other while they're horsing around, war engulfs both races, [[VerySpecialEpisode After School Special]] credits roll. An example of the latter has one of the less scrupulous members of the Freedom Fighters ([[spoiler:Fiona, who goes on to betray the team and join the bad guys in a later issue]]) ask why they don't just use guns to solve their current dilemma and is given a verbal bitch-slap by Rotor Walrus about how they have ''never'' used guns and ''never will'' use guns. This sudden MoodWhiplash is made even more jarring by the fact that Bunnie Rabbot, a character that had for a while been wearing worn six-shooters holstered in a bullet belt up until the issue in question, can be seen in the background, without the pistols but still wearing the belt. Further, not but twenty or thirty issues previous, Rotor had developed a huge bazooka-like laser cannon that purportedly operated much like a [[{{BFG}} hand-held]] WaveMotionGun and which Rotor actually fired ''directly at [[BigBad Dr. Robotnik]]'' at one point.



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* ''Literature/TheNeanderthalParallax'' descends into this, what with the Neanderthal's perfect society that is wholly devoid of crime. Not like us nasty humans, eh? Of course, [[UtopiaJustifiestheMeans it's based on sex segregation, plus eugenics -- sterilizing not only violent criminals but their near relatives, and, in the past, those with low intelligence]]...

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* ''Literature/TheNeanderthalParallax'' descends into this, what with the Neanderthal's Neanderthals' perfect society that is wholly devoid of crime. Not like us nasty humans, eh? Of course, [[UtopiaJustifiestheMeans it's based on sex segregation, plus eugenics -- sterilizing not only violent criminals but their near relatives, and, in the past, those with low intelligence]]...



** In series one a number of the people the team resurrected had memories of darkness and a hungry thing which turned out to be quite literal, real, and verifiable (and, at one point, summoned into the living world). This wasn't a minor plot point, either, it was the first series arc, making every character around before series 2 that says something like "this life is all there is" something of a FlatEarthAtheist. Admittedly the Torchwood afterlife is apparently extremely ''boring'', but nonetheless.

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** In series one one, a number of the people the team resurrected had memories of darkness and a hungry thing which turned out to be quite literal, real, and verifiable (and, at one point, summoned into the living world). This wasn't a minor plot point, either, either; it was the first series arc, making every character around before series 2 that says something like "this life is all there is" something of a FlatEarthAtheist. Admittedly the Torchwood afterlife is apparently extremely ''boring'', but nonetheless.



** "The Gun" - an episode where a colonel's antique pistol is stolen. In a war where everyone carries guns, it's strange to see an anti-handgun message. Hawkeye is within character in disliking the handgun, but when Radar and Colonel Potter both question why the colonel has a personal sidearm, this is obvious writer on board. For bonus points, in a real military unit an officer without his sidearm can in some situations be considered out of uniform and subject for disciplinary action. Exceptions are made, but it seems somewhat unlikely that the colonel was a registered conscientious objector, since he'd served in combat during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.

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** "The Gun" - -- an episode where a colonel's antique pistol is stolen. In a war where everyone carries guns, it's strange to see an anti-handgun message. Hawkeye is within character in disliking the handgun, but when Radar and Colonel Potter both question why the colonel has a personal sidearm, this is obvious writer on board. For bonus points, in a real military unit an officer without his sidearm can in some situations be considered out of uniform and subject for disciplinary action. Exceptions are made, but it seems somewhat unlikely that the colonel was a registered conscientious objector, since he'd served in combat during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



** "Peace on Us" - Hawkeye steals a jeep and runs off to interrupt the peace talks. At no time in the episode does Colonel Potter get upset with Hawkeye for going AWOL and pulling such a stupid stunt. Instead, the unit throws a party. Even worse, the General that Hawkeye confronts at the peace talks seems to be on his side as well, letting him off with a slap on the wrist and a hinted agreement at what Pierce had done.
** "Images" - Getting tattoos is stupid and regrettable, not to mention unhealthy. Hawkeye doesn't like tattoos and everyone agrees with him. Even characters who have tattoos in the episode are against tattoos and regret getting them.

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** "Peace on Us" - -- Hawkeye steals a jeep and runs off to interrupt the peace talks. At no time in the episode does Colonel Potter get upset with Hawkeye for going AWOL and pulling such a stupid stunt. Instead, the unit throws a party. Even worse, the General that Hawkeye confronts at the peace talks seems to be on his side as well, letting him off with a slap on the wrist and a hinted agreement at what Pierce had done.
** "Images" - -- Getting tattoos is stupid and regrettable, not to mention unhealthy. Hawkeye doesn't like tattoos and everyone agrees with him. Even characters who have tattoos in the episode are against tattoos and regret getting them.



* Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, where to start? Let's with constantly pushing Website/{{Twitter}}, Website/{{Facebook}} and a near worthless app only to turn around and deride Wrestling/BryanDanielson and Wrestling/LowKi as Internet darlings on NXT because they were vastly more popular, experienced and talented than the rookies they were put on TV with (though Wrestling/MichaelCole deserves some blame too). How about putting on a match between "Donald Trump" and "Rosie O'Donnell" because the two had a spat that got tv time, or maybe making Donald Trump the GM of Raw, or you know, all his attempts to make Donald Trump look awesome up to Donald Trump shaving Vince's head (Hey, TropesAreNotBad)? Then there is his love of the military, which leads to moronic segments like Wrestling/ScottSteiner debating Chris Nowinski as well as touching moments like Smackdown Christmas in Iraq. Then there is his love of incest and bodily orifice jokes, which lead to an angle where Wrestling/MarkHenry slept with his own sister and then impregnated an 80 year old woman...({{tropes are not good}})

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* Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, where to start? Let's with constantly pushing Website/{{Twitter}}, Website/{{Facebook}} and a near worthless app only to turn around and deride Wrestling/BryanDanielson and Wrestling/LowKi as Internet darlings on NXT because they were vastly more popular, experienced and talented than the rookies they were put on TV with (though Wrestling/MichaelCole deserves some blame too). How about putting on a match between "Donald Trump" and "Rosie O'Donnell" because the two had a spat that got tv time, or maybe making Donald Trump the GM of Raw, or you know, all his attempts to make Donald Trump look awesome up to Donald Trump shaving Vince's head (Hey, TropesAreNotBad)? Then there is his love of the military, which leads to moronic segments like Wrestling/ScottSteiner debating Chris Nowinski as well as touching moments like Smackdown Christmas in Iraq. Then there is his love of incest and bodily orifice jokes, which lead to an angle where Wrestling/MarkHenry slept with his own sister and then impregnated an 80 year old 80-year-old woman...({{tropes are not good}})



* ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' "Eugene, Eugene!" demonstrated this and AdaptationDecay with a ShowWithinAShow, by having a guy who's just been spurned by his girlfriend direct a production of a musical, and completely changing its ending to reflect his own life.

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* ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'': "Eugene, Eugene!" demonstrated this and AdaptationDecay with a ShowWithinAShow, by having a guy who's just been spurned by his girlfriend direct a production of a musical, and completely changing its ending to reflect his own life.



** As for Timmy, well it's hard for either of the rich girls interested in him to have a real relationship with anyone when neither of them are comfortable in their own skin. Trixie is the opposite of Sam in that Sam hides her wealth and accentuates her tomboyish nature, whereas Trixie hides her [[ShortTank tomboyishness]] and accentuates her wealth, due to [[AttentionWhore a pathological need to be the center of attention]]. Veronica, on the other hand, is a SatelliteCharacter to Trixie, as her entire personality is built around trying to supplant her, to the point of developing paranoid delusions. She also has a {{Yandere}} affection toward Timmy, though its currently unknown whether there is any relation between these.

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** As for Timmy, well it's hard for either of the rich girls interested in him to have a real relationship with anyone when neither of them are comfortable in their own skin. Trixie is the opposite of Sam in that Sam hides her wealth and accentuates her tomboyish nature, whereas Trixie hides her [[ShortTank tomboyishness]] and accentuates her wealth, due to [[AttentionWhore a pathological need to be the center of attention]]. Veronica, on the other hand, is a SatelliteCharacter to Trixie, as her entire personality is built around trying to supplant her, to the point of developing paranoid delusions. She also has a {{Yandere}} affection toward Timmy, though its it's currently unknown whether there is any relation relationship between these.them.
28th Apr '18 12:55:43 PM gophergiggles
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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E14FameAndMisfortune Fame and Misfortune]]" is seen as mostly a retort against criticisms of the show by the PeripheralDemographic.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E14FameAndMisfortune Fame and Misfortune]]" is seen as mostly a retort against criticisms of the show by the PeripheralDemographic. It's really telling that even people who like this episode tend to only defend the [[TakeThatAudience potshots it takes at fans]] and you would honestly be hard-pressed to find people actually praising or even commenting on the near non-existent plot itself.
27th Apr '18 1:23:23 AM Mareon
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* ''Literature/TheCountOfMonteCristo:'' All of the good characters are or were supporters of Napoleon, and nearly all of the bad ones are royalists. Creator/AlexandreDumas' [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas father]] was a famous general in Napoleon's army.
13th Mar '18 9:15:36 PM smasll_lordvoice
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* In ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome'', Creator/LeonardNimoy preaches his pro-environmental views and gives a [[SpaceWhaleAesop nonsensical justification]] for it. Yet by ''not'' putting those views front and center, and keeping the movie strong on character and humor (also thanks to the screenplay by four skilled writers), the trope is barely noticeable when watching.

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* In ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome'', Creator/LeonardNimoy preaches his pro-environmental views and gives a [[SpaceWhaleAesop nonsensical justification]] for it. Yet by ''not'' putting those views front and center, and keeping the movie strong on character and humor (also thanks to the screenplay by four skilled writers), [[TropesAreNotBad the trope is barely noticeable when watching.]] It helps that he avoids demonizing the opposition with [[StrawmanPolitical strawmen]] or a cackling, anti-environmental villain. In fact, except for the probe that starts it all (which can [[BlueAndOrangeMorality hardly be considered malevolent]]), this is the first and only StarTrek film to have NoAntagonist.
6th Mar '18 8:28:52 PM merotoker
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* [[Creator/StanLee Stan "The Man" Lee]] himself. Particularly his run on the ComicBook/SpiderMan comics. It's a somewhat well-known fact that, originally, [[HeroesWantRedHeads Mary Jane Watson]] was introduced as merely a foil for [[ILetGwenStacyDie Gwen Stacy]]. However, Mary Jane was infamous for [[EnsembleDarkhorse stealing every scene she entered]], largely overshadowing Gwen's [[GirlNextDoor softer]] personality. Stan made numerous attempts to downplay MJ's character, mainly by simply excluding her from the story, but he once gave MJ a ridiculous haircut that even the characters hated. In a [[DVDBonusContent featurette]] on the ''Film/SpiderMan2'' DVD, Stan admits that despite his efforts, he just couldn't make Gwen as interesting as MJ and he knew it.

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* [[Creator/StanLee Stan "The Man" Lee]] himself. Particularly his run on the ComicBook/SpiderMan comics. It's a somewhat well-known fact that, originally, [[HeroesWantRedHeads Mary Jane Watson]] ComicBook/MaryJaneWatson was introduced as merely a foil for [[ILetGwenStacyDie Gwen Stacy]]. However, Mary Jane was infamous for [[EnsembleDarkhorse stealing every scene she entered]], largely overshadowing Gwen's [[GirlNextDoor softer]] personality. Stan made numerous attempts to downplay MJ's character, mainly by simply excluding her from the story, but he once gave MJ a ridiculous haircut that even the characters hated. In a [[DVDBonusContent featurette]] on the ''Film/SpiderMan2'' DVD, Stan admits that despite his efforts, he just couldn't make Gwen as interesting as MJ and he knew it.



** ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'' #154, in which we learn the very important lesson that Beating People Up For Being Gay Is Wrong after Green Lantern Kyle Rayner's personal assistant Terry Berg is beaten up by a group of random thugs while leaving a club with his boyfriend. Despite having lost his first girlfriend to super-villain violence in the incident which defined the StuffedIntoTheFridge trope and seeing numerous other violations of basic human decency on a daily basis, THIS particularly display of man's inhumanity to man is so bad that it inspires Kyle Rayner to abandon the Earth in favor of wandering outer space and helping random non-human species.

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** ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'' ''Franchise/GreenLantern'' #154, in which we learn the very important lesson that Beating People Up For Being Gay Is Wrong after Green Lantern Kyle Rayner's personal assistant Terry Berg is beaten up by a group of random thugs while leaving a club with his boyfriend. Despite having lost his first girlfriend to super-villain violence in the incident which defined the StuffedIntoTheFridge trope and seeing numerous other violations of basic human decency on a daily basis, THIS particularly display of man's inhumanity to man is so bad that it inspires Kyle Rayner to abandon the Earth in favor of wandering outer space and helping random non-human species.



* CivilWar has been accused of this, with people saying Creator/MarkMillar made just about everyone in the Marvel U into idiots just so he could pit them against each other. The fact that some writers seemed to agree with this only compounds the problem.
* Creator/GailSimone is well known for her liberal political leanings, and her work often reflects this. Many of her works feature ethnically-diverse casts (the notable exception being ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey, an aspect of which she has apologized for.) Other elements that frequently pop up are commentary on race (''[[Comicbook/{{Firestorm}} The Fury of Firestorm]]'', ''ComicBook/WelcomeToTranquility'') and queer subtext (''ComicBook/SecretSix'', ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey'').
** Though she was going to [[SubvertedTrope subvert]] this in her run on the Cassandra Cain ComicBook/{{Batgirl| 2000}} by having [[NotGoodWithPeople Cassandra]] [[TykeBomb Cain]] rescue a Protestant minister and convert to Christianity... but she was denied by DC Comics, [[CharacterDerailment who turned Cassandra Cain into a mass murderer]].

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* CivilWar ComicBook/CivilWar has been accused of this, with people saying Creator/MarkMillar made just about everyone in the Marvel U into idiots just so he could pit them against each other. The fact that some writers seemed to agree with this only compounds the problem.
* Creator/GailSimone is well known for her liberal political leanings, and her work often reflects this. Many of her works feature ethnically-diverse casts (the notable exception being ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey, an aspect of which she has apologized for.) Other elements that frequently pop up are commentary on race (''[[Comicbook/{{Firestorm}} The Fury of Firestorm]]'', ''ComicBook/WelcomeToTranquility'') and queer subtext (''ComicBook/SecretSix'', ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey'').
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Though she was going to [[SubvertedTrope subvert]] {{subvert|edTrope}} this in her run on the Cassandra Cain ComicBook/{{Batgirl| 2000}} by having [[NotGoodWithPeople Cassandra]] [[TykeBomb Cain]] rescue a Protestant minister and convert to Christianity... but she was denied by DC Comics, [[CharacterDerailment who turned Cassandra Cain into a mass murderer]]. Other elements that frequently pop up are commentary on race (''[[Comicbook/{{Firestorm}} The Fury of Firestorm]]'', ''ComicBook/WelcomeToTranquility'') and queer subtext (''ComicBook/SecretSix'', ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey'').



* The Comicbook/XMen have suffered this since the late 90's. Every time new writers come on board, they kill or [[PutOnABus write off]] any new characters the previous writer introduced, and existing characters' development tends to be largely forgotten. Most egregious is how, for a long time, Emma Frost was treated like she left the Hellfire Club for the X-Men last week as if ComicBook/GenerationX never happened (but considering how Jubilee is still a teenager while her former teammates are now young adults, who knows). Then they blow up the mansion and have the team go in a totally new direction. One must wonder when was the last time the X-Men ''had'' a direction that they stuck to for longer than two years. Creator/ChrisClaremont is the best-known for this, leaving a title then coming back years later and picking up his old plotlines with no regard to what happened between stints.
* Jeph Leob appears to have, or at least ''had'' at some point, an axe to grind against organized religion. In the famous "ComicBook/EmperorJoker" storyline, there's an early scene making fun of a monastery, and SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker later spouts some atheistic viewpoint towards the end (although, granted, this is probably in character for the Joker). Then in the "Return to Krypton" story, the entire point was [[{{Anvilicious}} Jor-El and an army of scientists fighting against the priestly clan of Krypton]]. To make the point more glaringly {{Anvilicious}}, at the beginning when a time-traveling Jor-El shows up to meet present-day Superman, Superman exclaims "Great Rao!" (Rao is the Kryptonian sun god), and Jor-El moans "No, not Rao!!!"
* Scott Lobdell has been quite outspoken about the need for more ethnic diversity in superhero comics, and often goes out of his way to include minority characters in his books. Examples include:

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* The Comicbook/XMen have suffered this since the late 90's. Every time new writers come on board, they kill or [[PutOnABus write off]] any new characters the previous writer introduced, and existing characters' development tends to be largely forgotten. Most egregious is how, for a long time, Emma Frost ComicBook/EmmaFrost was treated like she left the Hellfire Club for the X-Men last week as if ComicBook/GenerationX never happened (but considering how Jubilee is still a teenager while her former teammates are now young adults, who knows). Then they blow up the mansion and have the team go in a totally new direction. One must wonder when was the last time the X-Men ''had'' a direction that they stuck to for longer than two years. Creator/ChrisClaremont is the best-known for this, leaving a title then coming back years later and picking up his old plotlines with no regard to what happened between stints.
* Jeph Leob Creator/JephLoeb appears to have, or at least ''had'' at some point, an axe to grind against organized religion. In the famous "ComicBook/EmperorJoker" storyline, there's an early scene making fun of a monastery, and SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker later spouts some atheistic viewpoint towards the end (although, granted, this is probably in character for the Joker). Then in the "Return to Krypton" story, the entire point was [[{{Anvilicious}} Jor-El and an army of scientists fighting against the priestly clan of Krypton]]. To make the point more glaringly {{Anvilicious}}, at the beginning when a time-traveling Jor-El shows up to meet present-day Superman, Superman exclaims "Great Rao!" (Rao is the Kryptonian sun god), and Jor-El moans "No, not Rao!!!"
* Scott Lobdell Creator/ScottLobdell has been quite outspoken about the need for more ethnic diversity in superhero comics, and often goes out of his way to include minority characters in his books. Examples include:



* During the latter half of Ken Penders' writing stint on the Franchise/ArchieComics version of ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog, many of the stories either revolved around Penders' own [[DoesntLikeGuns anti-gun views]] or would come to a screeching halt for a few panels for an AuthorFilibuster about the same. An example of the former was an entire story devoted to showing how the great [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Overlander]] vs. [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Mobian]] war began: two children - one Overlander, the other Mobian - meet between the two kingdoms to play, one of them brings a gun one day and accidentally shoots the other while they're horsing around, war engulfs both races, [[VerySpecialEpisode After School Special]] credits roll. An example of the latter has one of the less scrupulous members of the Freedom Fighters ([[spoiler:Fiona, who goes on to betray the team and join the bad guys in a later issue]]) ask why they don't just use guns to solve their current dilemma and is given a verbal bitch-slap by Rotor Walrus about how they have ''never'' used guns and ''never will'' use guns. This sudden MoodWhiplash is made even more jarring by the fact that Bunnie Rabbot, a character that had for a while been wearing six-shooters holstered in a bullet belt up until the issue in question, can be seen in the background, without the pistols but still wearing the belt. Further, not but twenty or thirty issues previous, Rotor had developed a huge bazooka-like laser cannon that purportedly operated much like a [[{{BFG}} hand-held]] WaveMotionGun and which Rotor actually fired ''directly at [[BigBad Dr. Robotnik]]'' at one point.

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* During the latter half of Ken Penders' Creator/KenPenders' writing stint on the Franchise/ArchieComics version of ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehog, ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog, many of the stories either revolved around Penders' own [[DoesntLikeGuns anti-gun views]] or would come to a screeching halt for a few panels for an AuthorFilibuster about the same. An example of the former was an entire story devoted to showing how the great [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Overlander]] vs. [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Mobian]] war began: two children - one Overlander, the other Mobian - meet between the two kingdoms to play, one of them brings a gun one day and accidentally shoots the other while they're horsing around, war engulfs both races, [[VerySpecialEpisode After School Special]] credits roll. An example of the latter has one of the less scrupulous members of the Freedom Fighters ([[spoiler:Fiona, who goes on to betray the team and join the bad guys in a later issue]]) ask why they don't just use guns to solve their current dilemma and is given a verbal bitch-slap by Rotor Walrus about how they have ''never'' used guns and ''never will'' use guns. This sudden MoodWhiplash is made even more jarring by the fact that Bunnie Rabbot, a character that had for a while been wearing six-shooters holstered in a bullet belt up until the issue in question, can be seen in the background, without the pistols but still wearing the belt. Further, not but twenty or thirty issues previous, Rotor had developed a huge bazooka-like laser cannon that purportedly operated much like a [[{{BFG}} hand-held]] WaveMotionGun and which Rotor actually fired ''directly at [[BigBad Dr. Robotnik]]'' at one point.



** Frank also has gone on record that he ''really'' wanted to do this to ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. After 9/11, he apparently told Marvel they were lucky to have a character like Cap who they could use for stories about the UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror and has made it clear he wants to write the character. Given how he handled ''Holy Terror'', it's a really good thing Marvel knew better.

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** Frank also has gone on record that he ''really'' wanted to do this to ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. After 9/11, he apparently told Marvel they were lucky to have a character like Cap who they could use for stories about the UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror TheWarOnTerror and has made it clear he wants to write the character. Given how he handled ''Holy Terror'', it's a really good thing Marvel knew better.



* In the early [=2000s=] a new storytelling rule was made at Creator/MarvelComics: heroic characters could not be shown smoking. The head editor at the time, Creator/JoeQuesada, lost his father to cancer brought on by smoking. Even {{Wolverine}}, whose love of cigars had in the past been used to deliver an ''anti-smoking'' message to those who don't share his [[HealingFactor immunity to their effects]], is no longer allowed to smoke.

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* In the early [=2000s=] a new storytelling rule was made at Creator/MarvelComics: heroic characters could not be shown smoking. The head editor at the time, Creator/JoeQuesada, lost his father to cancer brought on by smoking. Even {{Wolverine}}, Franchise/{{Wolverine}}, whose love of cigars had in the past been used to deliver an ''anti-smoking'' message to those who don't share his [[HealingFactor immunity to their effects]], is no longer allowed to smoke.



* The biggest failing of the film ''Film/LadyInTheWater'' was that it was just two hours of Creator/MNightShyamalan rubbing his self indulgence in our faces. The movie is pretty much centered around inspiring a writer (not surprisingly, played by Shyamalan himself) into writing a book that will change the world for the better at the cost of being martyred in a HeroicSacrifice. He also includes a TakeThat against the [[TakeThatCritics film critics]] who gave his earlier movies negative reviews by putting in a film critic character who is an [[StrawCritic arrogant, unlikeable man]] who dies a horrible death... and was one of the most popular characters among viewers.
* In ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome'', Leonard Nimoy preaches his pro-environmental views and gives a [[SpaceWhaleAesop nonsensical justification]] for it. Yet by ''not'' putting those views front and center, and keeping the movie strong on character and humor (also thanks to the screenplay by four skilled writers), the trope is barely noticeable when watching.

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* The biggest failing of the film ''Film/LadyInTheWater'' was that it was just two hours of Creator/MNightShyamalan rubbing his self indulgence in our faces. The movie is pretty much centered around inspiring a writer (not surprisingly, played by Shyamalan himself) into writing a book that will change the world for the better at the cost of being martyred in a HeroicSacrifice. He also includes a TakeThat against the [[TakeThatCritics film critics]] who gave his earlier movies negative reviews by putting in a film critic character who is an [[StrawCritic arrogant, unlikeable man]] who dies a horrible death... and was one of the most popular characters among viewers.
* In ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome'', Leonard Nimoy Creator/LeonardNimoy preaches his pro-environmental views and gives a [[SpaceWhaleAesop nonsensical justification]] for it. Yet by ''not'' putting those views front and center, and keeping the movie strong on character and humor (also thanks to the screenplay by four skilled writers), the trope is barely noticeable when watching.



*** Not to mention what happens in ''Allies'' and ''Vortex'':[[spoiler: Mandalorians murdering a Padawan, and massacring slaves, respectively.]] Ouch.

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*** Not to mention what happens in ''Allies'' and ''Vortex'':[[spoiler: Mandalorians murdering a Padawan, and massacring slaves, respectively.]] respectively]]. Ouch.



** It is helped at least somewhat by the fact that the [[spoiler:{{Big Bad}}]] ConspiracyTheorist is the main proponent and spokesman of the "secret history", which the protagonist disagrees with over major details. In fact, the filibusters primarily focus on religious ideas and symbols rather than practical facts, often going out of their way to defend the same conservative Christian beliefs they would appear to be criticizing. [[spoiler:The AncientConspiracy ends up being a subversion, and the ending is ultimately ambiguous as to whether the theory is true or not. It's simply another belief system with its own interpretation of Christ.]]

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** It is helped at least somewhat by the fact that the [[spoiler:{{Big Bad}}]] [[spoiler:BigBad]] ConspiracyTheorist is the main proponent and spokesman of the "secret history", which the protagonist disagrees with over major details. In fact, the filibusters primarily focus on religious ideas and symbols rather than practical facts, often going out of their way to defend the same conservative Christian beliefs they would appear to be criticizing. [[spoiler:The AncientConspiracy ends up being a subversion, and the ending is ultimately ambiguous as to whether the theory is true or not. It's simply another belief system with its own interpretation of Christ.]]



* Frank Herbert clearly had serious issues with homosexuality; BigBad Baron Harkonnen in ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' is a DepravedHomosexual who even lusts after his own nephew, and even his henchman Piter is briefly said to have a vaguely feminine personality. Then ''The Dosadi Experiment'' features the omniscient narrator discussing how gay people make ideal suicide bombers, an aside that comes right the hell out of nowhere and [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment never even has any impact on the plot]].

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* Frank Herbert Creator/FrankHerbert clearly had serious issues with homosexuality; BigBad Baron Harkonnen in ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' is a DepravedHomosexual who even lusts after his own nephew, and even his henchman Piter is briefly said to have a vaguely feminine personality. Then ''The Dosadi Experiment'' features the omniscient narrator discussing how gay people make ideal suicide bombers, an aside that comes right the hell out of nowhere and [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment never even has any impact on the plot]].



** The only way for a religious figure to be depicted positively is for him to rebel against his religion and tell his god, in effect, "Fine, we'll worship you but we don't want you to do or say anything ever again" or accept that Granny Weatherwax is right and the best use for his holy book is as firelighters. Similarly, when Cohen meets The Lady in ''Discworld/TheLastHero'' he gets to give her, personally, a TheReasonYouSuck speech that renders her dumb (although, ironically, it was Cohen's poorly-thought-out revenge plot that stood to doom the entire Disc right down to the Turtle itself).

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** The only way for a religious figure to be depicted positively is for him to rebel against his religion and tell his god, in effect, "Fine, we'll worship you but we don't want you to do or say anything ever again" or accept that Granny Weatherwax is right and the best use for his holy book is as firelighters. Similarly, when Cohen meets The Lady in ''Discworld/TheLastHero'' he gets to give her, personally, a TheReasonYouSuck speech TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that renders her dumb (although, ironically, it was Cohen's poorly-thought-out revenge plot that stood to doom the entire Disc right down to the Turtle itself).



** His {{Green Aesop}}s, celebrating the countryside and agriculture and deriding mechanization without care for the natural world, is particularly prominent in ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' with the tree-shepherding Ents: "I am on nobody's side, because nobody is on my side." Saruman's crimes includes the ruin of the park in Isengard and the wanton destruction of the ancient trees in Fangorn Forest as much as his assault on Rohan.

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** His {{Green Aesop}}s, celebrating the countryside and agriculture and deriding mechanization without care for the natural world, is particularly prominent in ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' with the tree-shepherding Ents: "I am on nobody's side, because nobody is on my side." Saruman's crimes includes include the ruin of the park in Isengard and the wanton destruction of the ancient trees in Fangorn Forest as much as his assault on Rohan.



** Creator/GeneRoddenberry himself may also be listed here. He was the one who made TheFederation a moneyless MarySuetopia, although there is some doubt as to whether he did it to deliver a message or just because he preferred writing about that sort of thing. Gene's atheism has been portrayed in several Star Trek episodes and movies here and there, but most prominately in "Who Watches the Watchers", where several Enterprise crew members strongly denounce religion as superstition and imply that they view it as nothing but a roadblock to progress. This attitude is [[CanonDiscontinuity never seen again in any Star Trek episode]].

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** Creator/GeneRoddenberry himself may also be listed here. He was the one who made TheFederation a moneyless MarySuetopia, although there is some doubt as to whether he did it to deliver a message or just because he preferred writing about that sort of thing. Gene's atheism has been portrayed in several Star Trek episodes and movies here and there, but most prominately prominently in "Who Watches the Watchers", where several Enterprise crew members strongly denounce religion as superstition and imply that they view it as nothing but a roadblock to progress. This attitude is [[CanonDiscontinuity never seen again in any Star Trek episode]].



** In [[FanNickname The Mothership's]] original cast seasons (before the [[ExecutiveMeddling network-mandated]] cast overhaul and before the show settled into its standard BodyOfTheWeek format), any crimes with a sexual angle (that weren't rape) were treated with visible disgust by both the senior detective (Phil Ceretta or Paul Greevy in those seasons). Ben Stone would tend to be more professional about things - unless the porn industry was involved somehow, then the moral gloves came off. The biggest example of the latter may be "Aria" (Season 2, Ep. 3), where Stone procecuted a StageMom for the suicide of her daughter: she killed herself rather than perform a hardcore sex scene, and Stone charged her with having driven her to it via pressure to perform. The porn pros were all portrayed as sleazy borderline criminals or victimized women with various substance abuse problems.

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** In [[FanNickname The Mothership's]] original cast seasons (before the [[ExecutiveMeddling network-mandated]] cast overhaul and before the show settled into its standard BodyOfTheWeek format), any crimes with a sexual angle (that weren't rape) were treated with visible disgust by both the senior detective (Phil Ceretta or Paul Greevy in those seasons). Ben Stone would tend to be more professional about things - unless the porn industry was involved somehow, then the moral gloves came off. The biggest example of the latter may be "Aria" (Season 2, Ep. 3), where Stone procecuted prosecuted a StageMom for the suicide of her daughter: she killed herself rather than perform a hardcore sex scene, and Stone charged her with having driven her to it via pressure to perform. The porn pros were all portrayed as sleazy borderline criminals or victimized women with various substance abuse problems.



* Many people believe the famous/infamous PowerRangers episode "Forever Red" was essentially used by PromotedFanboy Amit Bhuamik to force his fanfic hoax "Scorpion Rain" into canon with the series. Although actually, Bhuamik only provided the voice of Tommy in the fanfic, which was actually created by Derik Smith. Still, Bhuamik admitted that he considered the fanfic "completely in canon" when writing Forever Red, taking advantage of what was originally supposed to be a sequel to Countdown to Destruction (but got changed due to ExecutiveMeddling from Jonathan Tzachor and Koichi Sakamoto) to put his old friend's fan works into continuity.

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* Many people believe the famous/infamous PowerRangers Franchise/PowerRangers episode "Forever Red" was essentially used by PromotedFanboy Amit Bhuamik to force his fanfic hoax "Scorpion Rain" into canon with the series. Although actually, Bhuamik only provided the voice of Tommy in the fanfic, which was actually created by Derik Smith. Still, Bhuamik admitted that he considered the fanfic "completely in canon" when writing Forever Red, taking advantage of what was originally supposed to be a sequel to Countdown to Destruction (but got changed due to ExecutiveMeddling from Jonathan Tzachor and Koichi Sakamoto) to put his old friend's fan works into continuity.






* Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, where to start? Let's with constantly pushing twitter, facebook and a near worthless app only to turn around and deride Wrestling/BryanDanielson and Wrestling/LowKi as internet darlings on NXT because they were vastly more popular, experienced and talented than the rookies they were put on TV with (though Wrestling/MichaelCole deserves some blame too). How about putting on a match between "Donald Trump" and "Rosie O'Donnel" because the two had a spat that got tv time, or maybe making Donald Trump the GM of Raw, or you know, all his attempts to make Donald Trump look awesome up to Donald Trump shaving Vince's head (Hey, TropesAreNotBad)? Then there is his love of the military, which leads to moronic segments like Wrestling/ScottSteiner debating Chris Nowinsky as well as touching moments like Smackdown Christmas in Iraq. Then there is his love of incest and bodily orifice jokes, which lead to an angle where Wrestling/MarkHenry slept with his own sister and then impregnated an 80 year old woman...({{tropes are not good}})

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* Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, where to start? Let's with constantly pushing twitter, facebook Website/{{Twitter}}, Website/{{Facebook}} and a near worthless app only to turn around and deride Wrestling/BryanDanielson and Wrestling/LowKi as internet Internet darlings on NXT because they were vastly more popular, experienced and talented than the rookies they were put on TV with (though Wrestling/MichaelCole deserves some blame too). How about putting on a match between "Donald Trump" and "Rosie O'Donnel" O'Donnell" because the two had a spat that got tv time, or maybe making Donald Trump the GM of Raw, or you know, all his attempts to make Donald Trump look awesome up to Donald Trump shaving Vince's head (Hey, TropesAreNotBad)? Then there is his love of the military, which leads to moronic segments like Wrestling/ScottSteiner debating Chris Nowinsky Nowinski as well as touching moments like Smackdown Christmas in Iraq. Then there is his love of incest and bodily orifice jokes, which lead to an angle where Wrestling/MarkHenry slept with his own sister and then impregnated an 80 year old woman...({{tropes are not good}})



** Though in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E10FOXyLady FOX-y Lady]]", Brian's flaws are pointed out perfectly.[[spoiler: Lois was ordered by her new employers at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} to expose Creator/MichaelMoore's (theorized) homosexuality. When it is discovered Radio/RushLimbaugh is (possibly) his lover, the exposé is cut. Brian is repulsed by Fox News avoiding the truth to protect a fellow conservative, but urges Lois to do the story anyways to nail Limbaugh. Lois asks why this is any different than Fox trying to discredit Moore. Brian stammeringly claims it is OK because he is admitting his hypocrisy. At the end of the episode, it transpires that former child star Fred Savage invented both Limbaugh and Moore out of whole cloth ([[CaptainObvious which, of course, is totally untrue in real life]]), and ''then'' the ''Family Guy'' team made "Excellence in Broadcasting" and got Limbaugh a guest shot as himself on the episode. As well as playing a giant version of himself in the Film/ReturnOfTheJedi parody "It's a Trap" taking the place of the Rancor.]]
*** In RealLife, Rush Limbaugh and Creator/SethMcFarlane are good friends, [[OddFriendship despite their opposing political views]], and Limbaugh considers the show's satirical StrawmanPolitical version of himself to be ActuallyPrettyFunny.

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** Though in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E10FOXyLady FOX-y Lady]]", Brian's flaws are pointed out perfectly.[[spoiler: Lois was ordered by her new employers at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} to expose Creator/MichaelMoore's (theorized) homosexuality. When it is discovered Radio/RushLimbaugh is (possibly) his lover, the exposé is cut. Brian is repulsed by Fox News avoiding the truth to protect a fellow conservative, but urges Lois to do the story anyways to nail Limbaugh. Lois asks why this is any different than Fox trying to discredit Moore. Brian stammeringly claims it is OK because he is admitting his hypocrisy. At the end of the episode, it transpires that former child star Fred Savage invented both Limbaugh and Moore out of whole cloth ([[CaptainObvious which, of course, is totally untrue in real life]]), and ''then'' the ''Family Guy'' team made "Excellence in Broadcasting" and got Limbaugh a guest shot as himself on the episode. As well as playing a giant version of himself in the Film/ReturnOfTheJedi ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' parody "It's a Trap" taking the place of the Rancor.]]
*** In RealLife, Rush Limbaugh and Creator/SethMcFarlane Creator/SethMacFarlane are good friends, [[OddFriendship despite their opposing political views]], and Limbaugh considers the show's satirical StrawmanPolitical [[StrawCharacter Strawman Political]] version of himself to be ActuallyPrettyFunny.



** In an example of Guest Star on Board, Paul and Linda [=McCartney=] only agreed to appear in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E5LisaTheVegetarian Lisa the Vegetarian]]" on the condition that Lisa remain a vegetarian for the rest of the series.
*** On the other hand, Paul and Linda end the episode by telling Lisa that even if she doesn't approve of other people eating meat, it ''isn't'' okay to force them to change or shove her own vegetarian choices down their throats, so there's that.

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** In an example of Guest Star on Board, Paul and Linda [=McCartney=] only agreed to appear in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E5LisaTheVegetarian Lisa the Vegetarian]]" on the condition that Lisa remain a vegetarian for the rest of the series.
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series. On the other hand, Paul and Linda end the episode by telling Lisa that even if she doesn't approve of other people eating meat, it ''isn't'' okay to force them to change or shove her own vegetarian choices down their throats, so there's that.



* Some say that Butch Hartman's ''extremely'' unsympathetic portrayal of the popular and rich kids in both ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'' is his way of showing how bad rich kids can be if they abuse their position, while taking it UpToEleven. On the other hand, the protagonists of both shows have rich girls as love interests; Danny ultimately [[spoiler: ends up with a rich girl, though she hides her wealth to avoid fake friendship]]. However, when said rich girl's parents are shown as absolute {{Jerk Ass}}es while the girl is a SoapboxSadie who hates them and pushes her ultra-radical views on EVERYONE, the point about Hartman's hatred of the rich and popular people stands.

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* Some say that Butch Hartman's ''extremely'' unsympathetic portrayal of the popular and rich kids in both ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'' ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' is his way of showing how bad rich kids can be if they abuse their position, while taking it UpToEleven. On the other hand, the protagonists of both shows have rich girls as love interests; Danny ultimately [[spoiler: ends up with a rich girl, though she hides her wealth to avoid fake friendship]]. However, when said rich girl's parents are shown as absolute {{Jerk Ass}}es while the girl is a SoapboxSadie who hates them and pushes her ultra-radical views on EVERYONE, the point about Hartman's hatred of the rich and popular people stands.
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** Though in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E10FOXyLady FOX-y Lady]]", Brian's flaws are pointed out perfectly.[[spoiler: Lois was ordered by her new employers at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} to expose Creator/MichaelMoore's (theorized) homosexuality. When it is discovered RushLimbaugh is (possibly) his lover, the exposé is cut. Brian is repulsed by Fox News avoiding the truth to protect a fellow conservative, but urges Lois to do the story anyways to nail Limbaugh. Lois asks why this is any different than Fox trying to discredit Moore. Brian stammeringly claims it is OK because he is admitting his hypocrisy. At the end of the episode, it transpires that former child star Fred Savage invented both Limbaugh and Moore out of whole cloth ([[CaptainObvious which, of course, is totally untrue in real life]]), and ''then'' the ''Family Guy'' team made "Excellence in Broadcasting" and got Limbaugh a guest shot as himself on the episode. As well as playing a giant version of himself in the Film/ReturnOfTheJedi parody "It's a Trap" taking the place of the Rancor.]]

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** Though in the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E10FOXyLady FOX-y Lady]]", Brian's flaws are pointed out perfectly.[[spoiler: Lois was ordered by her new employers at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} to expose Creator/MichaelMoore's (theorized) homosexuality. When it is discovered RushLimbaugh Radio/RushLimbaugh is (possibly) his lover, the exposé is cut. Brian is repulsed by Fox News avoiding the truth to protect a fellow conservative, but urges Lois to do the story anyways to nail Limbaugh. Lois asks why this is any different than Fox trying to discredit Moore. Brian stammeringly claims it is OK because he is admitting his hypocrisy. At the end of the episode, it transpires that former child star Fred Savage invented both Limbaugh and Moore out of whole cloth ([[CaptainObvious which, of course, is totally untrue in real life]]), and ''then'' the ''Family Guy'' team made "Excellence in Broadcasting" and got Limbaugh a guest shot as himself on the episode. As well as playing a giant version of himself in the Film/ReturnOfTheJedi parody "It's a Trap" taking the place of the Rancor.]]
5th Feb '18 5:44:33 PM AmuckCricetine
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* Much of Series Two of ''Series/{{Extras}}'' is Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant giving their thoughts on show business and celebrity. Andy is regularly faced with a dilemma between seeking riches and fame or artistic honesty, and he ends up having not much of either by shooting for riches and fame. It ends with an AuthorTract by Andy against modern society's obsession with celebrity.

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* Much of Series Two of ''Series/{{Extras}}'' is Ricky Gervais Creator/RickyGervais and Stephen Merchant Creator/StephenMerchant giving their thoughts on show business and celebrity. Andy is regularly faced with a dilemma between seeking riches and fame or artistic honesty, and he ends up having not much of either by shooting for riches and fame. It ends with an AuthorTract by Andy against modern society's obsession with celebrity.



** Marti Noxon herself generally had a [[AllMenArePerverts men are bad]] vibe to her episodes as early as Season 3 when she made her debut as a writer. Prominent examples are the episodes "Beauty and the Beasts", "Consequences", and "Wild at Heart." A lot of her episodes tended to feature males as villains or be the bad character in a relationship. It gets so extreme that Willow's reaction to Oz's cheating comes off as [[DoubleStandard not quite as sympathetic as intended]] considering what Willow was doing with Xander the season before.

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** Marti Noxon herself generally had a [[AllMenArePerverts men are bad]] vibe to her episodes as early as Season 3 when she made her debut as a writer. Prominent examples are the episodes "Beauty "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E4BeautyAndTheBeasts}} Beauty and the Beasts", "Consequences", Beasts]]", "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E15Consequences}} Consequences]]", and "Wild at Heart." "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E6WildAtHeart}} Wild At Heart]]". A lot of her episodes tended to feature males as villains or be the bad character in a relationship. It gets so extreme that Willow's reaction to Oz's cheating comes off as [[DoubleStandard not quite as sympathetic as intended]] considering what Willow was doing with Xander the season before.
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* All three of the ''Series/BlakesSeven'' episodes written by Ben Steed [[CharacterDerailment trample characterisation]] for the sake of sexism. In "The Harvest of Kairos" Supreme Commander Servalan goes meekly along with the manly Jarvik (rather than killing him, which was statistically more likely). "Moloch" had women as helpless victims; Servalan is briefly added to their number, and she doesn't do much more than look outraged. "Power" featured a war of the sexes and an [[AuthorFilibuster uncharacteristic sermon]] from Avon -- usually an equal-opportunity misanthrope -- about how he, as a man, would always be stronger than a woman.

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* All three of the ''Series/BlakesSeven'' episodes written by Ben Steed [[CharacterDerailment trample characterisation]] for the sake of sexism. In "The "[[{{Recap/BlakesSevenS3E5TheHarvestOfKairos}} The Harvest of Kairos" Kairos]]" Supreme Commander Servalan goes meekly along with the manly Jarvik (rather than killing him, which was statistically more likely). "Moloch" "[[{{Recap/BlakesSevenS3E11Moloch}} Moloch]]" had women as helpless victims; Servalan is briefly added to their number, and she doesn't do much more than look outraged. "Power" "[[{{Recap/BlakesSevenS4E2Power}} Power]]" featured a war of the sexes and an [[AuthorFilibuster uncharacteristic sermon]] from Avon -- usually an equal-opportunity misanthrope -- about how he, as a man, would always be stronger than a woman.



* Just like ''The Simpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' can engage in this at times; one of the most blatant examples is "Decision 3012", which is about a Presidential candidate (who's UsefulNotes/BarackObama in all but name and ethnicity) who is portrayed as a messianic genius who could save the universe if only [[TheWarOnStraw the drunken idiots of America and Fox News]] (which is somehow still around 1000 years in the future) would stop obsessing over minor things like his "foreign-sounding" middle name and just let him do his job. Unsurprisingly, it's near unanimously considered the series' worst episode.

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* Just like ''The Simpsons'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' can engage in this at times; one of the most blatant examples is "Decision 3012", "[[Recap/FuturamaS7E3Decision3012 Decision 3012]]", which is about a Presidential candidate (who's UsefulNotes/BarackObama in all but name and ethnicity) who is portrayed as a messianic genius who could save the universe if only [[TheWarOnStraw the drunken idiots of America and Fox News]] (which is somehow still around 1000 years in the future) would stop obsessing over minor things like his "foreign-sounding" middle name and just let him do his job. Unsurprisingly, it's near unanimously considered the series' worst episode.
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** There's two stories by vegetarian writers which [[MeatVersusVeggies promote vegetarianism]] - "The Green Death", which takes a less judgemental {{Veganopia}} approach (being about a group of scientists trying to develop a perfect fungus-based meat substitute, similar to [[RippedFromTheHeadlines then-new]] Quorn); and the more {{Anvilicious}} [[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E4TheTwoDoctors "The Two Doctors"]], written by Creator/RobertHolmes, which compares meat-eating to cannibalism and has the Doctor explicitly convert to vegetarianism at one point. "Carnival of Monsters", also Holmes, contains the Doctor ranting at the villains and audience about the evils of keeping animals in zoos.

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** There's two stories by vegetarian writers which [[MeatVersusVeggies promote vegetarianism]] - "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E5TheGreenDeath The Green Death", Death]]", which takes a less judgemental {{Veganopia}} approach (being about a group of scientists trying to develop a perfect fungus-based meat substitute, similar to [[RippedFromTheHeadlines then-new]] Quorn); and the more {{Anvilicious}} [[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E4TheTwoDoctors "The Two Doctors"]], written by Creator/RobertHolmes, which compares meat-eating to cannibalism and has the Doctor explicitly convert to vegetarianism at one point. "Carnival of Monsters", also Holmes, contains the Doctor ranting at the villains and audience about the evils of keeping animals in zoos.



** Robert Holmes's "The Deadly Assassin" contains some pretty vicious commentary on the British political system, the British public school system and the Catholic Church. There's also an unflattering reference to Howard Wilson's resignation honours list and the Doctor espousing anti-politics views.
** Robert Holmes's "The Sunmakers", which has the Doctor make all kinds of sizzling one-liners about the evils of taxation and has an evil taxman as the villain, was inspired by his own tax problems (as he was both a writer and a script editor on ''Doctor Who'', he had to pay double the amount of tax on a single income).

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** Robert Holmes's "The Creator/RobertHolmes' "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin The Deadly Assassin" Assassin]]" contains some pretty vicious commentary on the British political system, the British public school system and the Catholic Church. There's also an unflattering reference to Howard Wilson's UsefulNotes/HaroldWilson's resignation honours list and the Doctor espousing anti-politics views.
** Robert Holmes's "The Sunmakers", Holmes' "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E4TheSunmakers The Sunmakers]]", which has the Doctor make all kinds of sizzling one-liners about the evils of taxation and has an evil taxman as the villain, was inspired by his own tax problems (as he was both a writer and a script editor on ''Doctor Who'', he had to pay double the amount of tax on a single income).



** Sylvester [=McCoy=] is quite open about how he and script editor Andrew Cartmel used ''Doctor Who'' to protest against Margaret Thatcher's government.

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** Sylvester [=McCoy=] Creator/SylvesterMcCoy is quite open about how he and script editor Andrew Cartmel used ''Doctor Who'' to protest against Margaret Thatcher's UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher's government.



* Aaron Sorkin often used ''Series/Studio60OnTheSunsetStrip'' as a soapbox to air his thinly-disguised personal grievances, particularly to vicariously lecture [[Creator/KristinChenoweth his ex-girlfriend]]. This also happened in ''Series/TheWestWing'' when he had a disagreement with the website Website/TelevisionWithoutPity.

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* Aaron Sorkin Creator/AaronSorkin often used ''Series/Studio60OnTheSunsetStrip'' as a soapbox to air his thinly-disguised personal grievances, particularly to vicariously lecture [[Creator/KristinChenoweth his ex-girlfriend]]. This also happened in ''Series/TheWestWing'' when he had a disagreement with the website Website/TelevisionWithoutPity.



* Alan Alda began writing episodes for the later seasons of ''[[Series/{{MASH}} M*A*S*H]]'' and the show tended to become his personal soapbox when those episodes were aired.

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* Alan Alda Creator/AlanAlda began writing episodes for the later seasons of ''[[Series/{{MASH}} M*A*S*H]]'' and the show tended to become his personal soapbox when those episodes were aired.



** Though in the episode "FOX-y Lady," Brian's flaws are pointed out perfectly.[[spoiler: Lois was ordered by her new employers at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} to expose Creator/MichaelMoore's (theorized) homosexuality. When it is discovered RushLimbaugh is (possibly) his lover, the exposé is cut. Brian is repulsed by Fox News avoiding the truth to protect a fellow conservative, but urges Lois to do the story anyways to nail Limbaugh. Lois asks why this is any different than Fox trying to discredit Moore. Brian stammeringly claims it is OK because he is admitting his hypocrisy. At the end of the episode, it transpires that former child star Fred Savage invented both Limbaugh and Moore out of whole cloth ([[CaptainObvious which, of course, is totally untrue in real life]]), and ''then'' the ''Family Guy'' team made "Excellence in Broadcasting" and got Limbaugh a guest shot as himself on the episode. As well as playing a giant version of himself in the Film/ReturnOfTheJedi parody "It's a Trap" taking the place of the Rancor.]]
*** In RealLife, Rush Limbaugh and Seth [=McFarlane=] are good friends, [[OddFriendship despite their opposing political views]], and Limbaugh considers the show's satirical StrawmanPolitical version of himself to be ActuallyPrettyFunny.
** Then "Jerome is the New Black" came around, where near the end Quagmire [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbally rips Brian a new one]], and is basically dead on. Although he actually was a really good father, until his son's biological mother came to take him back. And occasionally Brian is [[DependingOnTheWriter also depicted as a great writer]], and wasn't originally an atheist. In addition he comments about Brian always trying to hook up with Peter's wife (which is inappropriate) but leaves out the fact that Quagmire (particularly in earlier seasons) was constantly trying to hook up with Lois in far more egregious ways than Brian ever has.
** Exaggerated in "Tea Peter", which paints the Tea Party as stupid, insane anarchists who would destroy the country if they had their way; the episode's writer is a loud-and-proud supporter of the Occupy movement.

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** Though in the episode "FOX-y Lady," "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E10FOXyLady FOX-y Lady]]", Brian's flaws are pointed out perfectly.[[spoiler: Lois was ordered by her new employers at Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} to expose Creator/MichaelMoore's (theorized) homosexuality. When it is discovered RushLimbaugh is (possibly) his lover, the exposé is cut. Brian is repulsed by Fox News avoiding the truth to protect a fellow conservative, but urges Lois to do the story anyways to nail Limbaugh. Lois asks why this is any different than Fox trying to discredit Moore. Brian stammeringly claims it is OK because he is admitting his hypocrisy. At the end of the episode, it transpires that former child star Fred Savage invented both Limbaugh and Moore out of whole cloth ([[CaptainObvious which, of course, is totally untrue in real life]]), and ''then'' the ''Family Guy'' team made "Excellence in Broadcasting" and got Limbaugh a guest shot as himself on the episode. As well as playing a giant version of himself in the Film/ReturnOfTheJedi parody "It's a Trap" taking the place of the Rancor.]]
*** In RealLife, Rush Limbaugh and Seth [=McFarlane=] Creator/SethMcFarlane are good friends, [[OddFriendship despite their opposing political views]], and Limbaugh considers the show's satirical StrawmanPolitical version of himself to be ActuallyPrettyFunny.
** Then "Jerome "[[Recap/FamilyGuy8E7JeromeIsTheNewBlack Jerome is the Brand New Black" Black]]" came around, where near the end Quagmire [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech verbally rips Brian a new one]], and is basically dead on. Although he actually was a really good father, until his son's biological mother came to take him back. And occasionally Brian is [[DependingOnTheWriter also depicted as a great writer]], and wasn't originally an atheist. In addition he comments about Brian always trying to hook up with Peter's wife (which is inappropriate) but leaves out the fact that Quagmire (particularly in earlier seasons) was constantly trying to hook up with Lois in far more egregious ways than Brian ever has.
** Exaggerated in "Tea Peter", "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E21TeaPeter Tea Peter]]", which paints the Tea Party as stupid, insane anarchists who would destroy the country if they had their way; the episode's writer is a loud-and-proud supporter of the Occupy movement.



* Since [[InsufferableGenius being condescending]] and [[SoapboxSadie outspoken about her beliefs]] was partly built into her characterization, [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] has frequently been used as a mouthpiece, though she is [[LampshadeHanging frequently acknowledged as being annoying to those around her]].
** In an example of Guest Star on Board, Paul and Linda [=McCartney=] only agreed to appear in the episode where Lisa becomes a vegetarian on the condition that she remain a vegetarian for the rest of the series.

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* Since [[InsufferableGenius being condescending]] and [[SoapboxSadie outspoken about her beliefs]] was partly built into her characterization, [[TheSimpsons [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] has frequently been used as a mouthpiece, though she is [[LampshadeHanging frequently acknowledged as being annoying to those around her]].
** In an example of Guest Star on Board, Paul and Linda [=McCartney=] only agreed to appear in the episode where "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E5LisaTheVegetarian Lisa becomes a vegetarian the Vegetarian]]" on the condition that she Lisa remain a vegetarian for the rest of the series.



** Writer John Frink is clearly some kind of raging liberal, as he created two of the series' shrillest political episodes. "Bart-Mangled Banner" is basically just one long jeremiad against an over-the-top straw man caricature of what America's political culture is supposedly like during the George W. Bush years, while "Politically Inept, with Homer Simpson" is a similarly unsubtle denunciation of the Tea Party as a movement of mindless morons. Though the Simpsons obviously always dabbles in political commentary, these two episodes are infamous for swapping the show's trademark cynicism in favor of narrow, partisan rage.

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** Writer John Frink is clearly some kind of raging liberal, as he created two of the series' shrillest political episodes. "Bart-Mangled Banner" "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E21BartMangledBanner Bart-Mangled Banner]]" is basically just one long jeremiad against an over-the-top straw man caricature of what America's political culture is supposedly like during the George W. Bush UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush years, while "Politically "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS23E10PoliticallyIneptWithHomerSimpson Politically Inept, with Homer Simpson" Simpson]]" is a similarly unsubtle denunciation of the Tea Party as a movement of mindless morons. Though the Simpsons obviously always dabbles in political commentary, these two episodes are infamous for swapping the show's trademark cynicism in favor of narrow, partisan rage.



** 'Raisins' was the result of an unfortunate incident where Parker found his (former) fiance sleeping in the bed of another man.

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** 'Raisins' "[[Recap/SouthParkS7E14Raisins Raisins]]" was the result of an unfortunate incident where Parker found his (former) fiance sleeping in the bed of another man.
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