History Main / WorthyOpponent

2nd May '16 11:28:07 AM TMNTFanGirl
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* Towards the climax of ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'', when Mulan reveals that it was she who destroyed the Hun army, Shan Yu is surprised to see "the soldier from the mountain" appear before him, but his tone is almost awestruck, rather then incredulous. And then he comes at her, not wasting any time with the usual "I've been beaten by a woman" stuff villains usually spout when facing a female opponent.

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* Towards the climax of ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'', when Mulan reveals that it was she who destroyed the Hun army, Shan Yu is surprised to see "the soldier from the mountain" appear before him, but his tone is almost awestruck, rather then incredulous. And then he comes at her, not wasting any time with the usual "I've been beaten by a woman" stuff male villains usually spout when facing a female opponent.
29th Apr '16 5:06:45 AM JackG
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* Subverted in ''Series/TheProfessionals''. Cowley says of a KGB opposite number whom they've just killed; "Terkoff. He was a good man." As his partner has just been shot by Terkoff, Doyle angrily points at where Doyle is lying and snaps, "Yeah? Well, there's a better man back there!"
28th Apr '16 4:33:43 AM JamesAustin
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* The French Marshal PhilippePetain collaborated with NaziGermany during the SecondWorldWar and headed the Vichy regime. After the liberation of France in 1944, Pétain was taken by the retreating German Army and brought to Germany. However, he refused to further collaborate with the Nazis and insisted upon being allowed to leave. Finally, he was escorted to the Swiss border. Rather than try to seek asylum in neutral Switzerland, Pétain proceeded directly to the French border and gave himself up to the new government in his homeland - knowing that he would face treason charges. CharlesDeGaulle, Petain's staunch foe, conceded that Pétain's decision to return to France to face his accusers in person was "certainly courageous". That might have contributed to De Gaulle's later decision to have Petain's death punishment commuted.

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* The French Marshal PhilippePetain UsefulNotes/PhilippePetain collaborated with NaziGermany during the SecondWorldWar and headed the Vichy regime. After the liberation of France in 1944, Pétain was taken by the retreating German Army and brought to Germany. However, he refused to further collaborate with the Nazis and insisted upon being allowed to leave. Finally, he was escorted to the Swiss border. Rather than try to seek asylum in neutral Switzerland, Pétain proceeded directly to the French border and gave himself up to the new government in his homeland - knowing that he would face treason charges. CharlesDeGaulle, UsefulNotes/CharlesDeGaulle, Petain's staunch foe, conceded that Pétain's decision to return to France to face his accusers in person was "certainly courageous". That might have contributed to De Gaulle's later decision to have Petain's death punishment commuted.



* MarvelComics and DCComics. Employees of each company often praise the others' works and the former has nicknamed the latter their "Distinguished Competition."

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* MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics and DCComics.Creator/DCComics. Employees of each company often praise the others' works and the former has nicknamed the latter their "Distinguished Competition."
9th Apr '16 6:45:08 PM Brainbin
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->''"This man... makes me wanna go all out!"''
-->-- '''Boros''', ''Anime/OnePunchMan'', concerning his battle with the title character.


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->''"This man... makes me wanna go all out!"''
->''"I regret that we meet in this way. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend."''
-->-- '''Boros''', ''Anime/OnePunchMan'', concerning his battle with the title character.

'''Romulan Commander''', ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', [[Recap/StarTrekS1E14BalanceOfTerror "Balance of Terror"]]
27th Mar '16 11:55:11 PM Omeganian
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka thinks this way of Commissar Sebastian Yarrick, to the point that, after he captured and tortured him for a while, he let him escape because [[BloodKnight an Ork needs a good enemy]]. Yes, a [[BadassGrandpa very old]], [[BadassNormal almost entirely unaugmented human]] is considered a Worthy Opponent by the largest, meanest Ork in the entire galaxy. However, Yarrick is ''disgusted'' by the Ork and has devoted his life to hunting him down and killing him by any means.

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka thinks this way of Commissar Sebastian Yarrick, to the point that, after he captured and tortured him for a while, he let him escape because [[BloodKnight an Ork needs a good enemy]]. Yes, a [[BadassGrandpa very old]], [[BadassNormal almost entirely unaugmented human]] is considered a Worthy Opponent by the largest, meanest Ork in the entire galaxy. However, Yarrick is ''disgusted'' by the Ork and has devoted his life to hunting him down and killing him by any means. In fact, for Orks, "favorite enemy" is the closest term they have to "friend".
15th Mar '16 4:12:32 PM AdamKeller
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* The French Marshal PhilippePétain collaborated with NaziGermany during the SecondWorldWar and headed the Vichy regime. After the liberation of France in 1944, Pétain was taken by the retreating German Army and brought to Germany. However, he refused to further collaborate with the Nazis and insisted upon being allowed to leave. Finally, he was escorted to the Swiss border. Rather than try to seek asylum in neutral Switzerland, Pétain proceeded directly to the French border and gave himself up to the new government in his homeland - knowing that he would face treason charges. CharlesDeGaulle, Petain's staunch foe, conceded that Pétain's decision to return to France to face his accusers in person was "certainly courageous". That might have contributed to De Gaulle's later decision to have Petain's death punishment commuted.

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* The French Marshal PhilippePétain PhilippePetain collaborated with NaziGermany during the SecondWorldWar and headed the Vichy regime. After the liberation of France in 1944, Pétain was taken by the retreating German Army and brought to Germany. However, he refused to further collaborate with the Nazis and insisted upon being allowed to leave. Finally, he was escorted to the Swiss border. Rather than try to seek asylum in neutral Switzerland, Pétain proceeded directly to the French border and gave himself up to the new government in his homeland - knowing that he would face treason charges. CharlesDeGaulle, Petain's staunch foe, conceded that Pétain's decision to return to France to face his accusers in person was "certainly courageous". That might have contributed to De Gaulle's later decision to have Petain's death punishment commuted.
15th Mar '16 3:57:35 PM AdamKeller
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* The French Marshal PhilippePétain collaborated with NaziGermany during the SecondWorldWar and headed the Vichy regime. After the liberation of France in 1944, Pétain was taken by the retreating German Army and brought to Germany. However, he refused to further collaborate with the Nazis and insisted upon being allowed to leave. Finally, he was escorted to the Swiss border. Rather than try to seek asylum in neutral Switzerland, Pétain proceeded directly to the French border and gave himself up to the new government in his homeland - knowing that he would face treason charges. CharlesDeGaulle, Petain's staunch foe, conceded that Pétain's decision to return to France to face his accusers in person was "certainly courageous". That might have contributed to De Gaulle's later decision to have Petain's death punishment commuted.
7th Mar '16 10:51:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Romulan commander in the ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' episode "Balance of Terror", who tells Kirk that under different circumstances they could have been friends. This episode was specifically inspired by the movie ''The Enemy Below'' (see the Film section above).
** It is extremely common throughout the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries original series]] (and its movies) for the opponent to be a Worthy Opponent of Kirk or, at the very least, have a very healthy respect for him (albeit one full of hatred). Most notable of these was Khan Noonien Singh, originally a Worthy Opponent of Kirk-- as well as the only one who was also an actual Earth-man (vs. simply a metaphor); in ''[[Recap/StarTrekS1E22SpaceSeed Space Seed]]'', the two Worthy Opponents parted in mutual respect and honor, with Kirk dropping all charges against Khan and granting him his original wish of a new world to command.

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* The Romulan commander in the ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' Series}}'':
** The Romulan commander in the
episode "Balance of Terror", who tells Kirk that under different circumstances they could have been friends. This episode was specifically inspired by the movie ''The Enemy Below'' (see the Film section above).
** It is extremely common throughout the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries original series]] (and its movies) for the opponent to be a Worthy Opponent of Kirk or, at the very least, have a very healthy respect for him (albeit one full of hatred). Most notable of these was Khan Noonien Singh, originally a Worthy Opponent of Kirk-- as well as the only one who was also an actual Earth-man (vs. simply a metaphor); in ''[[Recap/StarTrekS1E22SpaceSeed "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E22SpaceSeed Space Seed]]'', Seed]]", the two Worthy Opponents parted in mutual respect and honor, with Kirk dropping all charges against Khan and granting him his original wish of a new world to command.



** Also from Trek (and also Romulan), Commander Sela was Data's Worthy Foe - a concept ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' constantly beat us over the head and chest with whenever Sela showed up.
** ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': "By Inferno's Light". Worf has spent the last several days fighting Jem'Hadar in death matches. When he finally faces the biggest and most badass of them, his refusal to quit makes the Jem'Hadar back down.

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** * ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': Also from Trek (and also Romulan), Romulan, Commander Sela was Data's Worthy Foe - a concept ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' the series constantly beat us over the head and chest with whenever Sela showed up.
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
** ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': "By Inferno's Light". Worf has spent the last several days fighting Jem'Hadar in death matches. When he finally faces the biggest and most badass of them, his refusal to quit makes the Jem'Hadar back down.



** The Jem'Hadar seem to hold the Klingons as a whole as a worthy adversary. The first Jem'Hadar encountered by the DS9 crew was disappointed seeing that a Klingon was not amongst them. What makes this even more impressive is that the Jem'Hadar hadn't even encountered the Klingons yet. They'd simply heard of them through word of mouth from prisoners captured from other Alpha Quadrant colonies.
** Similarly, Starfleet Engineers are respected by the Dominion as the undisputed masters of technology, fabled to be able turn "rocks into replicators."

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** The Jem'Hadar seem to hold the Klingons as a whole as a worthy adversary. The first Jem'Hadar encountered by the DS9 Deep Space 9 crew was disappointed seeing that a Klingon was not amongst them. What makes this even more impressive is that the Jem'Hadar hadn't even encountered the Klingons yet. They'd simply heard of them through word of mouth from prisoners captured from other Alpha Quadrant colonies.
** Similarly, Starfleet Engineers are respected by the Dominion as the undisputed masters of technology, fabled to be able turn "rocks into replicators."



** Just before dying, [[spoiler: Silik]] of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' calls Archer this.

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** * Just before dying, [[spoiler: Silik]] of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' calls Archer this.



* Of the three men who pursue Series/TheATeam over the course of the first four seasons, only Colonel Decker actually seems to view the team (particularly Hannibal) in this way. He has a definite grudging respect for them. Hannibal, in turn, actually seems to admire Decker's relentlessness.

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* Of the three men who pursue Series/TheATeam ''Series/TheATeam'' over the course of the first four seasons, only Colonel Decker actually seems to view the team (particularly Hannibal) in this way. He has a definite grudging respect for them. Hannibal, in turn, actually seems to admire Decker's relentlessness.



* FBI Special Agent Frank Lundy was this to the titular character of ''Series/{{Dexter}}'' in season two. Dexter even uses the term himself after [[spoiler:Lundy's death in season four.]]

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* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'':
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FBI Special Agent Frank Lundy was this to the titular character of ''Series/{{Dexter}}'' in season two. Dexter even uses the term himself after [[spoiler:Lundy's death in season four.]]



* ''Series/TheWestWing'': Republican presidential candidate Arnold Vinick. He had an almost sure-fire way of beating Santos but didn't use it, simply because it would have been dishonourable.

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* ''Series/TheWestWing'': ''Series/TheWestWing'':
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Republican presidential candidate Arnold Vinick. He had an almost sure-fire way of beating Santos but didn't use it, simply because it would have been dishonourable.



* In ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Pusher", the supernaturally persuasive Robert Patrick Modell is looking for this. He finds it in Mulder, whom he then tries to destroy (it fails). In the sequel episode, Modell's sister tries to pick up where he left off.

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* ''Series/TheXFiles'':
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In ''Series/TheXFiles'' the episode "Pusher", the supernaturally persuasive Robert Patrick Modell is looking for this. He finds it in Mulder, whom he then tries to destroy (it fails). In the sequel episode, Modell's sister tries to pick up where he left off.



** Before that, there was Grey from ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman'', who formed this type of relationship with TheLancer, Gai. Over the course of the show, the two dueled every time they saw each other. This culminated when [[spoiler: the two had their final duel (which Gai won), and ended with Gai lighting a cigarette in remembrance of Grey. In the end, they were NotSoDifferent.]]
** Ecliptor, from ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'', can count too; as can a few ''Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy'' characters.
** ''Series/PowerRangersMysticForce'' had Koragg, who had a very fierce rivalry with Nick Russell, the Red Mystic Force Ranger. [[spoiler:The rivalry ended when Koragg was revealed to be Leanbow, Udonna's husband. Nick initially thought it was a trick, especially after Leanbow was briefly turned back into Koragg and proceeded to pick a fight with him, only for the rivalry to finally end for good when it was revealed that Leanbow and Udonna were his ''[[{{Irony}} biological parents]]''.]]

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** * Before that, there was Grey from ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman'', who formed this type of relationship with TheLancer, Gai. Over the course of the show, the two dueled every time they saw each other. This culminated when [[spoiler: the two had their final duel (which Gai won), and ended with Gai lighting a cigarette in remembrance of Grey. In the end, they were NotSoDifferent.]]
** * Ecliptor, from ''Series/PowerRangersInSpace'', can count too; as can a few ''Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy'' characters.
** * ''Series/PowerRangersMysticForce'' had Koragg, who had a very fierce rivalry with Nick Russell, the Red Mystic Force Ranger. [[spoiler:The rivalry ended when Koragg was revealed to be Leanbow, Udonna's husband. Nick initially thought it was a trick, especially after Leanbow was briefly turned back into Koragg and proceeded to pick a fight with him, only for the rivalry to finally end for good when it was revealed that Leanbow and Udonna were his ''[[{{Irony}} biological parents]]''.]]



* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'': The whole reason [[ManipulativeBastard Moriarty]] messes with Sherlock's life. Sherlock doesn't seem to mind- in fact, he rather enjoys their game- until his friends' lives are threatened.
** Also a pretty brutal deconstruction. Moriarty is so smart that only one man can really challenge him: Sherlock Holmes. As a result, he's so fanatically devoted to taking him down that he will go to any lengths to win: [[spoiler:namely, ruining Sherlock's entire public reputation, hurting his loved ones, and [[AteHisGun shooting himself in the mouth]].]]

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* ''Series/{{Sherlock}}'': The whole reason [[ManipulativeBastard Moriarty]] messes with Sherlock's life. Sherlock doesn't seem to mind- in fact, he rather enjoys their game- until his friends' lives are threatened.
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threatened. Also a pretty brutal deconstruction. Moriarty is so smart that only one man can really challenge him: Sherlock Holmes. As a result, he's so fanatically devoted to taking him down that he will go to any lengths to win: [[spoiler:namely, ruining Sherlock's entire public reputation, hurting his loved ones, and [[AteHisGun shooting himself in the mouth]].]]
7th Mar '16 9:24:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''TheWire'': Detective [=McNulty=] is proud to be chasing clever criminals, since stupid criminals make stupid cops. Especially evident in his grudging respect for Stringer Bell.

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* ''TheWire'': ''Series/TheWire'': Detective [=McNulty=] is proud to be chasing clever criminals, since stupid criminals make stupid cops. Especially evident in his grudging respect for Stringer Bell.



* ''[[SpartacusBloodAndSand Spartacus War of the Damned]]'' Crassus clearly respects Spartacus for rising to what he is now, his skills as a warrior, and his brilliancy as a leader. At the end he's defeated Spartacus' forces [[spoiler:and lost to Spartacus in personal combat]], and is clearly in awe of him. Spartacus for his part, clearly recognizes Crassus as his most dangerous foe and seems to have a grudging respect for that. However, he also hates everything that Crassus stands for, namely Rome.

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* ''[[SpartacusBloodAndSand Spartacus War of the Damned]]'' ''Series/SpartacusWarOfTheDamned'' Crassus clearly respects Spartacus for rising to what he is now, his skills as a warrior, and his brilliancy as a leader. At the end he's defeated Spartacus' forces [[spoiler:and lost to Spartacus in personal combat]], and is clearly in awe of him. Spartacus for his part, clearly recognizes Crassus as his most dangerous foe and seems to have a grudging respect for that. However, he also hates everything that Crassus stands for, namely Rome.
6th Mar '16 2:20:27 PM MikeW
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* Wonderfully played with on ''Series/Farscape'' as Scorpius talked a lot of his respect going against John Crichton and how the man is quite obviously an intelligent, capable and quite probably brilliant tactician. So you can imagine how it felt when Scorpius had to work with the crew of Moya and was utterly stunned to realize Crichton had absolutely no idea what the ''hell'' he was doing most of the time and his victories were pretty much just plain blind luck with zero planning whatsoever.

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* Wonderfully played with on ''Series/Farscape'' ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' as Scorpius talked a lot of his respect going against John Crichton and how the man is quite obviously an intelligent, capable and quite probably brilliant tactician. So you can imagine how it felt when Scorpius had to work with the crew of Moya and was utterly stunned to realize Crichton had absolutely no idea what the ''hell'' he was doing most of the time and his victories were pretty much just plain blind luck with zero planning whatsoever.
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