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24th Mar '17 1:40:32 PM KYCubbie
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* After putting on a match that [[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter Dave Meltzer]] called the greatest in pro wrestling history at Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling's Wrestle Kingdom 11 in 2017, Wrestling/KennyOmega called his victorious opponent Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada the best wrestler in Japan and possibly the world, while Okada called Omega the greatest foreign wrestler in NJPW history.

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* After putting on a match that [[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter Dave Meltzer]] called the greatest in pro wrestling history at Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling's Wrestle Kingdom 11 in 2017, Wrestling/KennyOmega called his victorious opponent Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada and Wrestling/KennyOmega exemplified this trope. Omega called the victorious Okada the best wrestler in Japan and possibly the world, while Okada called Omega the greatest foreign wrestler in NJPW history.
24th Mar '17 1:38:32 PM KYCubbie
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* After putting on a match that [[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter Dave Meltzer]] called the greatest in pro wrestling history at Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling's Wrestle Kingdom 11 in 2017, the Wrestling/KennyOmega called his victorious opponent Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada the best wrestler in Japan and possibly the world, while Okada called Omega the greatest foreign wrestler in NJPW history.

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* After putting on a match that [[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter Dave Meltzer]] called the greatest in pro wrestling history at Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling's Wrestle Kingdom 11 in 2017, the Wrestling/KennyOmega called his victorious opponent Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada the best wrestler in Japan and possibly the world, while Okada called Omega the greatest foreign wrestler in NJPW history.
24th Mar '17 1:37:42 PM KYCubbie
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* After putting on a match that [[Wrestling/TheWrestlingObserverNewsletter Dave Meltzer]] called the greatest in pro wrestling history at Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling's Wrestle Kingdom 11 in 2017, the Wrestling/KennyOmega called his victorious opponent Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada the best wrestler in Japan and possibly the world, while Okada called Omega the greatest foreign wrestler in NJPW history.



* Almost every hockey fight between two enforcers, who's main job is to fight and add toughness, is this. All of them follow an unwritten code and respect the other player for their efforts.
* The rivalry between legendary basketball players Larry Bird and Earvin "Magic" Johnson is the ultimate example between athletes. After first meeting in college in the 1979 national championship game, Bird and Johnson revitalized the struggling NBA during the 1980s, meeting in the NBA Finals three times and winning a combined 8 NBA championships and 6 MVP awards between them. Their rivalry was a proxy for multiple cultural issues in the United States at the time: West Coast vs. East Coast, Hollywood glitz and glam vs. blue collar work ethic,[[note]]Bird and Johnson, both emphatically working-class Midwesterners despite their different backgrounds (Bird being a white hick from rural Indiana, Johnson being the son of a black GM autoworker from Michigan's moderately-large capital), found this somewhat confusing, although they did embrace it to some degree (Johnson in particular loved the LA lifestyle).[[/note]] even the racial politics of black (Johnson) vs. white (Bird). Johnson claimed that the 82 game season was divided into two levels of importance, with 80 regular games, and two games against Bird. Similarly, Bird said that the first thing he did every morning was check the newspapers to see how Johnson had done. However, despite the rivalry, the two had great respect and admiration for each other, and eventually developed into friends (starting around 1986, when they filmed a Converse commercial together). Bird was the man who formally inducted Johnson into the Basketball Hall of Fame during the induction ceremony; on the occasion of Bird's retirement, Johnson attended and described Bird as a "friend forever".
* Similar to the Bird/Johnson example, we have Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. They epitomized Statistical dominance vs Championships , [[EnthusiasmVsStoicism the charismatic larger-than-life attitude vs politically militant disciplined stoicism]], playing for many teams vs staying with one, and individual brilliance vs the consummate team player. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird faced each other 37 times, Chamberlain and Russell faced each other 142 times. Outside of basketball, they were great friends, though the friendship soured after 1969 and was only revived in TheNineties.
* Many former UsefulNotes/{{Tennis}} players express approval at Roger Federer breaking their records, but particular mention must be given to Bjorn Borg. Borg holds the record for the most number of consecutive UsefulNotes/{{Wimbledon}} titles and in 2001 he personally thanked Federer for beating Pete Sampras who had been about to equal that record. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Six years later Borg turned up to watch Federer equal the record and publicly congratulated him]].

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* Almost every hockey fight between two enforcers, who's whose main job is to fight and add toughness, is this. All of them follow an unwritten code and respect the other player for their efforts.
* The rivalry between legendary basketball players Larry Bird and Earvin "Magic" Johnson is the ultimate example between athletes. After first meeting in college in the 1979 national championship game, Bird and Johnson revitalized the struggling NBA during the 1980s, meeting in the NBA Finals three times and winning a combined 8 NBA championships and 6 MVP awards between them. Their rivalry was a proxy for multiple cultural issues in the United States at the time: West Coast vs. East Coast, Hollywood glitz and glam vs. blue collar work ethic,[[note]]Bird and Johnson, both emphatically working-class Midwesterners despite their different backgrounds (Bird being a white hick from rural Indiana, Johnson being the son of a black GM autoworker from Michigan's moderately-large capital), found this somewhat confusing, although they did embrace it to some degree (Johnson in particular loved the LA lifestyle).[[/note]] even the racial politics of black (Johnson) vs. white (Bird). Johnson claimed that the 82 game 82-game season was divided into two levels of importance, with 80 regular games, and two games against Bird. Similarly, Bird said that the first thing he did every morning was check the newspapers to see how Johnson had done. However, despite the rivalry, the two had great respect and admiration for each other, and eventually developed into friends (starting around 1986, when they filmed a Converse commercial together). Bird was the man who formally inducted Johnson into the Basketball Hall of Fame during the induction ceremony; on the occasion of Bird's retirement, Johnson attended and described Bird as a "friend forever".
* Similar to the Bird/Johnson example, we have Wilt Chamberlain UsefulNotes/WiltChamberlain and Bill Russell. They epitomized Statistical dominance vs Championships , [[EnthusiasmVsStoicism the charismatic larger-than-life attitude vs politically militant disciplined stoicism]], playing for many teams vs staying with one, and individual brilliance vs the consummate team player. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird faced each other 37 times, Chamberlain and Russell faced each other 142 times. Outside of basketball, they were great friends, though the friendship soured after 1969 and was only revived in TheNineties.
* Many former UsefulNotes/{{Tennis}} players express approval at Roger Federer breaking their records, but particular mention must be given to Bjorn Björn Borg. Borg holds the record for the most number of consecutive UsefulNotes/{{Wimbledon}} titles and in 2001 he personally thanked Federer for beating Pete Sampras who had been about to equal that record. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Six years later Borg turned up to watch Federer equal the record and publicly congratulated him]].



* The [[UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague Chicago Blackhawks and Detroit Red Wings]] have one of the most storied rivalries in professional sports, meeting in over 800 games since they joined the league, however their relationship has gradually moved much more towards that of Worthy Opponents in recent years. Despite their history there is a great deal of mutual respect for each other, particularly in contrast with more recent rivalries such as the one the Hawks currently have with the Vancouver Canucks and the Wings had with the Colorado Avalanche in the 90s, each of which are/were much more overtly hostile. The outrage over Detroit moving to the Eastern Conference following the 2013 season was rooted greatly in a belief by fans of both teams and even the sport as a whole who believe that meetings between them almost always result in the best hockey anyone will ever watch. The one thing that people are almost universally happy about with the realignment is the potential for the two to meet in UsefulNotes/TheStanleyCup Finals which has not happened since 1934 in the original six era.
* In the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens. The two teams are rivals in the AFC north, and they really cannot stand each other - their rivalry is said to be one of the most bitter in the NFL. However, both teams are also willing to admit that the other is generally a very tough team to beat and that [=Ravens/Steelers=] games are always hard fought. Some even say that the rivalry helps to keep both teams at the top of their game, and that's why both teams have been among the NFL's most consistently successful franchises since the mid 2000s. And oddly, the longer the rivalry endures, the less bitter it gets - although the teams still can't stand each other, they both take great pride in how the Ravens/Steelers rivalry is considered hands down the best rivalry in the NFL, and the Cincinnati Bengals have, for various reasons, become the [[HateSkink more hated enemy]] of both teams.

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* The [[UsefulNotes/NationalHockeyLeague Chicago Blackhawks and Detroit Red Wings]] have one of the most storied rivalries in professional sports, meeting in over 800 games since they joined the league, however their relationship has gradually moved much more towards that of Worthy Opponents in recent years. Despite their history there is a great deal of mutual respect for each other, particularly in contrast with more recent rivalries such as the one the Hawks currently have with the Vancouver Canucks and the Wings had with the Colorado Avalanche in the 90s, each of which are/were much more overtly hostile. The outrage over Detroit moving to the Eastern Conference following the 2013 season was rooted greatly in a belief by fans of both teams and even the sport as a whole who believe that meetings between them almost always result in the best hockey anyone will ever watch. The one thing that people are almost universally happy about with the realignment is the potential for the two to meet in UsefulNotes/TheStanleyCup Finals which has not happened since 1934 1934, in the original six Original Six era.
* In the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens. The two teams are rivals in the AFC north, North, and they really cannot stand each other - their rivalry is said to be one of the most bitter in the NFL. However, both teams are also willing to admit that the other is generally a very tough team to beat and that [=Ravens/Steelers=] games are always hard fought. Some even say that the rivalry helps to keep both teams at the top of their game, and that's why both teams have been among the NFL's most consistently successful franchises since the mid 2000s. And oddly, the longer the rivalry endures, the less bitter it gets - although the teams still can't stand each other, they both take great pride in how the Ravens/Steelers Ravens[=/=]Steelers rivalry is considered hands down the best rivalry in the NFL, and the Cincinnati Bengals have, for various reasons, become the [[HateSkink more hated enemy]] of both teams.
24th Mar '17 12:11:26 PM gb00393
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** Despite suffering a KangarooCourt because of her MamaBear tendencies, Tyrion has great admiration for Catelyn.
--> '''Tyrion:''' I admired her... she wanted to have me executed but I admired her. She was a strong woman and she was fierce when it came to protecting her children.
21st Mar '17 7:30:18 PM epoxy
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This declaration is more commonly made by villains than heroes, given that the villain's less scrupulous nature doesn't exactly help earn a hero's respect. The exceptions to this tend to involve {{Spirited Competitor}}s or otherwise less principled protagonists on the heroic side, or a NobleDemon on the villainous side. Compare VillainousValor, wherein the heroes may recognize some admirable quality in an otherwise-evil character.

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This declaration is more commonly made by villains than heroes, given that the villain's less scrupulous nature doesn't exactly help earn a hero's respect. The exceptions to this tend to involve {{Spirited Competitor}}s or otherwise less principled protagonists on the heroic side, or a NobleDemon on the villainous side. Compare VillainousValor, EvilVirtues, wherein the heroes may recognize some admirable quality in an otherwise-evil otherwise-villainous character.
7th Mar '17 12:45:52 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Littlefinger and Varys seem to enjoy verbally sparring with each other and clearly see each other as the only other person on their mental level.
** Jaime sees Eddard as one in regards to swordfighting. He admits that he's heard of Eddard's reputation and wants to test his mettle. When he finally gets the chance to square off with Eddard, a guard screws it up by interfering.
** Lord Tywin considers Lady Olenna to be his intellectual equal and recognizes that she's the true head of House Tyrell, as he deals with her directly when arranging a marriage between their two families, and not with her son Mace, who is technically the Lord of Highgarden. Olenna then praises Tywin for living up to his reputation.
2nd Mar '17 8:34:44 AM Gosicrystal
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* The first case of ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Ace Attorney Investigations 2]]'' has Edgeworth assisted by ''[[ProfessionalKiller Shelley de Killer]]'' of all people. The reason being that the murder victim (a bodyguard) was one of the very few people badass enough to ''stop'' a de Killer assassination. This really struck a chord with de Killer, who is usually able to kill his targets without getting a scratch on him, and he wanted to help get justice for such a skilled opponent.
** In the third case of the same game, [[spoiler:Dane Gustavia]] is deeply disappointed that Jeff Master was the one suspected of the murder, since [[spoiler:he]] deeply respected Master [[spoiler:as a fellow pastry chef]] and considered him a worthy opponent. [[spoiler:He]] was actually trying to frame someone else, but an accident caused the victim's body to be discovered early in a place that made Master look suspicious.

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* The first case of ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Ace Attorney Investigations 2]]'' 2]]'':
** The first case
has Edgeworth assisted by ''[[ProfessionalKiller Shelley de Killer]]'' of all people. The reason being that the murder victim (a bodyguard) was one of the very few people badass enough to ''stop'' a de Killer assassination. This really struck a chord with de Killer, who is usually able to kill his targets without getting a scratch on him, and he wanted to help get justice for such a skilled opponent.
** In the third case of the same game, case, [[spoiler:Dane Gustavia]] is deeply disappointed that Jeff Master was the one suspected of the murder, since [[spoiler:he]] deeply respected Master [[spoiler:as a fellow pastry chef]] and considered him a worthy opponent. [[spoiler:He]] was actually trying to frame someone else, but an accident caused the victim's body to be discovered early in a place that made Master look suspicious.



** More recently, [[EvilOverlord General Tarquin]] views [[TheHero Roy]] as one, respecting him as an intelligent, resourceful warrior. It gets to the point that he [[spoiler: appoints himself to the Linear Guild in place of [[TheBrute Thog]], who Roy does ''not'' view as either a proper EvilCounterpart or Worthy Opponent]], just to get the chance to fight Roy himself. When the ''entire Order'' (minus V) assaults him (thinking he's Thog thanks to some quick acting) Tarquin's response to seeing five high-level adventurers charging straight toward him? [[BloodKnight "Magnificent."]] This is later deconstructed when Tarquin sees that Roy is so effective that he believes that he is preventing his son, Elan, from achieving his full potential as a hero, [[spoiler:so he orders his forces to kill him.]]

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** More recently, [[EvilOverlord General Tarquin]] views [[TheHero Roy]] as one, respecting him as an intelligent, resourceful warrior. It gets to the point that he [[spoiler: appoints himself to the Linear Guild in place of [[TheBrute Thog]], who Roy does ''not'' view as either a proper EvilCounterpart or Worthy Opponent]], just to get the chance to fight Roy himself. When the ''entire Order'' (minus V) assaults him (thinking he's Thog thanks to some quick acting) Tarquin's response to seeing five high-level adventurers charging straight toward him? [[BloodKnight "Magnificent."]] This is later deconstructed when Tarquin sees that Roy is so effective that he believes that he is preventing his son, Elan, from achieving his full potential as a hero, [[spoiler:so he orders his forces to kill him.]]
1st Mar '17 8:56:52 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Despite being an All American wrestler prior to turning pro racking up title belt and tournament wins in his first pro year and already having won over crowds across three countries Lio Rush was automatically disrespected by most Wrestling/{{R|ingOfHonor}}OH wrestlers for being [[PrejudicedForPecs even smaller]] than James Gibson. Some of the the first people he won over, Wrestling/JayLethal, Jay White were those he failed to beat, as the effort ''they'' had to put in made them realize his wins weren't flukes and take interest in how good he'd be in two years.
30th Jan '17 2:02:17 PM Phred
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* Karl of ''WesternAnimation/AllHailKingJulien'' considers Julien to be this before they've even formally met. For the most part he is extremely gracious in defeat as defeat as this only serves as proof that Julien is a brilliant foe worthy of a brilliant mind such as his own.
20th Jan '17 7:39:32 AM bwburke94
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* In ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', the Endbringers - a set of NighInvulnerable {{Kaiju}} monsters who have been regularly attacking humankind for thirty years by the start of the series - are implied to be ''created'' specifically to act like these for [[spoiler: Eidolon]] by his powers. In this case, the revelation that this is happening [[spoiler: stuns the ChronicHeroSyndrome Eidolon so badly that he falls into a HeroicBSOD.]]



* In ''Literature/{{Twig}}'', the protagonist, Sylvester, experiences moments of great excitement whenever he encounters someone that could rival him as TheSocialExpert, because simply to watch what they do in response to his own moves is completely fascinating. He finds two in the form of Reverend Mauer, a charismatic religious leader who stages a populist uprising, and Genevieve Fray, a rogue MadScientist with SuperIntelligence which has allowed her to optimize her brain for strategic planning and politics.
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