History Main / WorthlessForeignDegree

10th May '16 1:09:38 PM Katsuhagi
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[folder:Anime&Manga]]

to:

[[folder:Anime&Manga]][[folder:Anime & Manga]]


Added DiffLines:

* This is one of the blows to Asuka's self esteem that she receives once she moves to Japan in ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', since in her native Germany she was already a college graduate at [[TeenGenius the age of 14]] but finds herself put back in high school and struggling with the material due to having trouble reading Kanji.
24th Apr '16 3:30:27 PM KJMackley
Is there an issue? Send a Message


It's often believed, especially by Americans who have never been outside their country, that professionals in poorer countries immigrate to the West because they live in abject squalor in their home countries. The reason for this "interesting" belief is that a professional in a poor country may earn less than a cab driver in the United States. However, this fails to take into consideration that the cost of living is massively higher in the United States. In many poor areas it's possible for a large family to live in comfort, even luxury, on a monthly salary that's less than the average ''daily'' salary in New York. (Some capital cities in poorer countries are very expensive for expatriates, but expats have specific needs that locals rarely have - security above all.) Most professional immigrants either have a Western education and are able to enter the job force, are unaware that their credentials aren't transferable, have been sold a story by an "immigration consultant", or are escaping something other than poverty such as discrimination, political oppression, political instability, rampant crime, or war, or are seeking something other than employment (e.g. better education for their children).

Often overlaps with research failure, especially when universities from Eastern and Central Europe (and to a lesser extent the South Asian subcontinent) are mentioned. Most graduates from such countries have little trouble nostrificating their diplomas, especially if they come from renowned universities and their profession is in high demand (such as Doctors). If anything, this trope is the result of [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucracy]] or a case described below.
7th Apr '16 6:12:59 PM MBI
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Series/ThirtyRock's Dr. Spaceman got his degree from the Ho Chi Minh School of Medicine. Legally, he has to put quotes around the word "Doctor."
* Shyster lawyer Saul Goodman from ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/BetterCallSaul'' got his law degree from the University of American Samoa. It's valid, but befitting a low-rent sleazeball like Saul.
16th Oct '15 5:51:49 PM jormis29
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''Tropico'', your loyal, boot-licking lackey Penultimo apparently got his degree at the University of Atlantis, an (obviously) fictional college (which may explain his 5 spelling errors...in ''[[EpicFail spelling his own name]]'').

to:

* In ''Tropico'', ''VideoGame/{{Tropico}}'', your loyal, boot-licking lackey Penultimo apparently got his degree at the University of Atlantis, an (obviously) fictional college (which may explain his 5 spelling errors...in ''[[EpicFail spelling his own name]]'').
16th Oct '15 4:10:05 PM WC-83
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''VideoGame/Tropico'', your loyal, boot-licking lackey Penultimo apparently got his degree at the University of Atlantis, an (obviously) fictional college (which may explain his 5 spelling errors...in ''[[EpicFail spelling his own name]]'').

to:

* In ''VideoGame/Tropico'', ''Tropico'', your loyal, boot-licking lackey Penultimo apparently got his degree at the University of Atlantis, an (obviously) fictional college (which may explain his 5 spelling errors...in ''[[EpicFail spelling his own name]]'').
16th Oct '15 4:09:07 PM WC-83
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''VideoGame/Tropico'', your loyal, boot-licking lackey Penultimo apparently got his degree at the University of Atlantis, an (obviously) fictional college (which may explain his 5 spelling errors...in ''[[EpicFail spelling his own name]]'').
29th Aug '15 5:56:02 AM RogherNahasa
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Also, Russian literature tends to be useless when the only people who appreciate it are under a government that wants you dead (his father was a counter-revolutionary).
26th Aug '15 10:29:13 AM Willbyr
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In the epilogue of MahouSenseiNegima Yue runs into this problem as [[SpaceElevator ISSDA]] didn't accept her degree and career history from MagicWorld.

to:

* In the epilogue of MahouSenseiNegima ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' Yue runs into this problem as [[SpaceElevator ISSDA]] didn't accept her degree and career history from MagicWorld.
16th Aug '15 5:54:07 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''BoyMeetsWorld'' had a hopeful variation. Eric took a job as a security guard instead of trying to do his [=SATs=] again to get into college. His partner turned out to have been an engineer in wherever he came from, Eric asked him why he was reading the SAT prep book. The response: "So that I can let this country know I am an engineer."

to:

* ''BoyMeetsWorld'' had ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'':
** There's
a hopeful variation. Eric took a job as a security guard instead of trying to do his [=SATs=] again to get into college. His partner turned out to have been an engineer in wherever he came from, Eric asked him why he was reading the SAT prep book. The response: "So that I can let this country know I am an engineer."



* In one episode of ''LawAndOrder'', a doctor is on trial for Manslaughter, his Indian colleague is testifying to his actions, and the doctor's lawyer draws attention to his training in a foreign medical school. Fortunately, another Harvard-trained doctor could verify this testimony.

to:

* In one episode of ''LawAndOrder'', ''Series/LawAndOrder'', a doctor is on trial for Manslaughter, his Indian colleague is testifying to his actions, and the doctor's lawyer draws attention to his training in a foreign medical school. Fortunately, another Harvard-trained doctor could verify this testimony.



* Nahum, the janitor in ''SlingsAndArrows'', never gets his backstory fully explained, but it's suggested that he was either an actor or a director in Nigeria.

to:

* Nahum, the janitor in ''SlingsAndArrows'', ''Series/SlingsAndArrows'', never gets his backstory fully explained, but it's suggested that he was either an actor or a director in Nigeria.



* In ''That70sShow'', Jackie mentions her maid could have been a doctor in her country.

to:

* In ''That70sShow'', ''Series/That70sShow'', Jackie mentions her maid could have been a doctor in her country.



* A one-time game in ''WhoseLineIsItAnyway'' parodies the "This Is Your Life" type of reality gameshow, and Colin Mochrie, as a voice from Wayne Brady's past, rants about how Wayne took his job as a sewer worker. Wayne follows up by claiming that Colin is a Mexican immigrant ([[FridgeLogic despite not having the accent]]), whereupon [[GenreSavvy Colin]] claims to have taken "four years of English literature".

to:

* A one-time game in ''WhoseLineIsItAnyway'' ''Series/WhoseLineIsItAnyway'' parodies the "This Is Your Life" type of reality gameshow, and Colin Mochrie, as a voice from Wayne Brady's past, rants about how Wayne took his job as a sewer worker. Wayne follows up by claiming that Colin is a Mexican immigrant ([[FridgeLogic despite not having the accent]]), whereupon [[GenreSavvy Colin]] claims to have taken "four years of English literature".



* ''{{Frasier}}''. After Dr. Schachter gives the Crane brothers a virulent TheReasonYouSuckSpeech regarding their SiblingRivalry ("That is it! That is it! In thirty years as a couples therapist, I've never said what I'm about to say: Give up! It's hopeless! You are pathologically mistrustful of each another, competitive to the point of madness! So, trust me, just meet each other at weddings and funerals, and the rest of the time, stay the hell away from each other!"), the boys agree on his prognosis, but then use his degrees as an AdHominem argument to ignore his advice, even though they admit Martin says the same exact thing, and kick him out of the building!

to:

* ''{{Frasier}}''.''Series/{{Frasier}}''. After Dr. Schachter gives the Crane brothers a virulent TheReasonYouSuckSpeech regarding their SiblingRivalry ("That is it! That is it! In thirty years as a couples therapist, I've never said what I'm about to say: Give up! It's hopeless! You are pathologically mistrustful of each another, competitive to the point of madness! So, trust me, just meet each other at weddings and funerals, and the rest of the time, stay the hell away from each other!"), the boys agree on his prognosis, but then use his degrees as an AdHominem argument to ignore his advice, even though they admit Martin says the same exact thing, and kick him out of the building!



* Subverted/parodied in ''PhoneShop'', regarding the shop's cleaner;

to:

* Subverted/parodied in ''PhoneShop'', ''Series/PhoneShop'', regarding the shop's cleaner;



* A one-time character in ''PersonOfInterest'' was a first-class surgeon working as a coroner because he couldn't afford to get licensed to practice medicine in America after immigrating due to the fact he sends most of his paycheck back to help his family. [[spoiler:Finch resolves this by giving him a BriefcaseFullOfMoney in exchange for him treating a critically injured Reese without reporting the gunshot wounds to the authorities.]]

to:

* A one-time character in ''PersonOfInterest'' ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' was a first-class surgeon working as a coroner because he couldn't afford to get licensed to practice medicine in America after immigrating due to the fact he sends most of his paycheck back to help his family. [[spoiler:Finch resolves this by giving him a BriefcaseFullOfMoney in exchange for him treating a critically injured Reese without reporting the gunshot wounds to the authorities.]]



* In ''{{Bones}}'', the Jeffersonian gained a new intern from Cuba. He was a doctor there, but his credentials didn't transfer, hence interning to gain a legitimate American degree. Though he doesn't seem to consider it a setback, and the rest of the team refers to him as "Dr. Fuentes," even hyper-critical Dr. Brennan, who makes a point of addressing her other interns as "Mr." or "Miss" to subtly remind them that they don't yet have doctorates.

to:

* In ''{{Bones}}'', ''Series/{{Bones}}'', the Jeffersonian gained a new intern from Cuba. He was a doctor there, but his credentials didn't transfer, hence interning to gain a legitimate American degree. Though he doesn't seem to consider it a setback, and the rest of the team refers to him as "Dr. Fuentes," even hyper-critical Dr. Brennan, who makes a point of addressing her other interns as "Mr." or "Miss" to subtly remind them that they don't yet have doctorates.
11th Aug '15 11:04:09 PM Duffan
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''{{Bones}}'', the Jeffersonian gained a new intern from Cuba. He was a doctor there, but his credentials didn't transfer, hence interning to gain a legitimate American degree. Though he doesn't seem to consider it a setback, and the rest of the team refers to him as "Dr. Fuentes," even hyper-critical Dr. Brennan, who makes a point of addressing her other interns as "Mr." or "Miss" to subtly remind them that they don't yet have doctorates.
This list shows the last 10 events of 115. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.WorthlessForeignDegree