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12th Nov '17 4:22:32 PM Odacon_Spy
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* Averted in ''Series/Angel'', a woman falls into a glass window and has a massive piece sticking out of her neck. Barely conscious she pulls it out herself and starts bleeding out. Cordelia immediately sees the danger in that action, tries to stop the bleeding, and gets her to a hospital. Cordelia explains to the ER doctor about the glass removal and the doctor tells her she saved her life.

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* Averted in ''Series/Angel'', ''Series/{{Angel}}'', a woman falls into a glass window and has a massive piece sticking out of her neck. Barely conscious she pulls it out herself and starts bleeding out. Cordelia immediately sees the danger in that action, tries to stop the bleeding, and gets her to a hospital. Cordelia explains to the ER doctor about the glass removal and the doctor tells her she saved her life.
30th Oct '17 2:33:13 PM Inediblecake
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* Aquatic problems can be even worse. Basic aquatic safety and lifesaving courses will tell you to stay the hell out of the way if there are any professional lifeguards around, and anybody without at least basic training is far more likely to make the situation much, much worse than better.

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* Aquatic problems can be even worse. Basic aquatic safety and lifesaving courses will tell you to stay the hell out of the way if there are any professional lifeguards around, and anybody without at least basic training is far more likely to make the situation much, much worse than better.better when they get grabbed by the original victim.
21st Oct '17 10:36:29 AM TMB
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* In ''Film/VantagePoint'', one of the bad guys is pretending to be a paramedic and gets stuck having to actually work on someone. He does CPR in the laziest and most distracted manner ever since he's in a hurry to be somewhere else. After a minute of apply two or three half-hearted compressions at a time the victim comes to and he just walks off.


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* Averted in ''Series/Angel'', a woman falls into a glass window and has a massive piece sticking out of her neck. Barely conscious she pulls it out herself and starts bleeding out. Cordelia immediately sees the danger in that action, tries to stop the bleeding, and gets her to a hospital. Cordelia explains to the ER doctor about the glass removal and the doctor tells her she saved her life.
15th Oct '17 4:40:36 PM TheTraveller
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*Happens no less than twice in ''FanFic/FreedomDiesWithMe'';
**Traveller's stomach wound. In the very first chapter, he is stabbed in the stomach, and the very best those around him can think of...is to wrap bandages around it. Even when entering Planet Avalice properly, all Shang Tu's doctors can do is replace the bandages and jack him up on painkillers. [[spoiler:He finally bleeds out after being stranded by War Master, and it takes reversing his personal timeline to BEFORE he got stabbed to get rid of it.]]
**Justified to a small extent; the prologue is in a post-apocalyptic version of Planet Avalice where supplies are scarce, medicine in Shang Tu seems based entirely on the healing baths and the blade used was steeped in a strong poison that resisted all forms of healing - even the Blade of Hysteria's supernatural abilities do nothing against it. Only Torque averts this, as he uses his technology to stitch the wound shut, but even that was a knowingly temporary fix at best.
**The second example is used as a plot point; [[spoiler:Trying to get Lilac to use the Blade of Hysteria to set her down a path of insanity, War Master simply shoots her in the stomach with Traveller's Desert Eagle. With the healing baths unavailable, gun wound treatments being non-existent on Planet Avalice and JustAFleshWound being averted, Lilac would be doomed to a slow death, not counting her severe burns from Brevon's ElectricTorture. Only using the Blade would heal them, and thus she is forced to use it.]] Even after getting rescued, the rescuers can do so little[[note]]one of them is a medic by trade, but ''both'' are hallucinations[[/note]] that all they can do is jack [[spoiler:Lilac]] up on painkillers and wrap her in bandages too.


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**And vaguely justified in ''VideoGame/FarCryPrimal''; it's the Stone Age, after all, so medicine as a concept doesn't really exist yet. Resetting broken bones, removing arrows and other foreign objects and eating a big chunk of meat (the game's replacement for syringes) is about all that could reasonably be done. Interestingly, some of the animations involve the protagonist covering smaller wounds with a type of brown paste.
14th Oct '17 7:04:19 PM copperking
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* ''Webcomic/AwfulHospital'': [[EldritchLocation The titular Hospital]] has pretty scary medicinal practices. {{Justified}} due to it not being set up with humans in mind.
** [[spoiler: During the fight with Dr. Man, the Bandage creature continued trying to heal Man on reflex after it was poisoned. This doubled his injuries instead of helping him.]]
7th Oct '17 3:34:42 AM Kadorhal
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** The original game seems to poke fun at this, however, where an NPC in the Kalinatek mission requests you carry him to the medical office to treat his wounds. Fisher promptly carries him there [[OverTheShoulderCarry across his shoulders]] like he would for any other unconscious or dead guard he's stuffing in the shadows to avoid alerts - and said NPC bleeds out and dies after giving a bit of exposition.

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** The original game seems to poke fun at this, however, where an NPC in the Kalinatek mission requests you carry him to the medical office to treat his gunshot wounds. Fisher promptly carries him there [[OverTheShoulderCarry across his shoulders]] like he would for any other unconscious or dead guard he's stuffing in the shadows to avoid alerts - and said NPC bleeds exposits for maybe a minute more before bleeding out and dies after giving a bit of exposition.dying.



** The third game shows that this behavior [[RealityEnsues isn't entirely without consequence]] -- Max is a barely-functional addict for those painkillers after downing them like candy for the entirety of the first two games.

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** The third game shows that this behavior [[RealityEnsues isn't entirely without consequence]] -- nine years later, Max is a barely-functional addict for those painkillers after downing them like candy for the entirety of the first two games.



** Likewise, ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}} 2'' does the exact same thing except with defibrillators instead of syringes.

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** Likewise, ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}} 2'' does modern-set ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}'' games do the exact same thing thing, except with defibrillators instead of syringes.syringes. This also crosses over with HealingShiv as well, since those very same defibs can be used to kill opposing players.



* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', the treatment for being bitten by a leech is to burn it off with a cigar. If you do this to a leech in real life, it will vomit into the wound and increase the risk of infection. The ''correct'' way to remove a leech is to gently pry its mouths--yes, ''mouths''; [[BizarreAlienBiology they have two of them]]--off of the skin. Usually it's done with one's fingers, but Snake still resorts to using the cigar...even though he's equipped with a combat knife.

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', the treatment for being bitten by a leech is to burn it off with a cigar. If you do this to a leech in real life, it will vomit into the wound and increase the risk of infection. The ''correct'' way to remove a leech is to gently pry its mouths--yes, mouths (yes, ''mouths''; [[BizarreAlienBiology they have two of them]]--off them]]) off of the skin. Usually it's done with one's fingers, but Snake still resorts to using the cigar...even though he's equipped with a combat knife.



'''Grif:''' (''sigh'') You're welcome, sir.\\

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'''Grif:''' (''sigh'') ''(sigh)'' You're welcome, sir.\\
31st Aug '17 9:36:06 AM WillKeaton
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* Trying to make someone vomit poisonous or infectious things they have consumed. If they aren't already vomiting (which ''does'' happen with some substances, alcohol being the most notorious), you should just get them to a hospital. Supportive treatment begun early (or antidotes/antitoxins where they exist) often does far more good than trying to purge the substance from the body. Finally, in some cases a drug, alcohol, or other overdose can cause unconsciousness and someone vomiting can breathe in their own vomit (pulmonary aspiration), complicating their potential survival with a nasty case of pneumonia or asphyxiation. If the poison was a strong acid, alkali, or a petroleum product, vomiting could cause further damage to the esophagus and mouth. It is important to note that many countries offer a poison control hotline[[note]]1-800-222-1222 in the United States[[/note]], which can offer expert advice and specific instructions for the particular poison ingested (if known). If these guys say to induce vomiting, do it; however, as noted before, this is a situational precaution, and should not be attempted unless it is known for certain it is the right thing to do.

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* Trying to make someone vomit poisonous or infectious things they have consumed. If they aren't already vomiting (which ''does'' happen with some substances, alcohol being the most notorious), you should just get them to a hospital. Supportive treatment begun early (or antidotes/antitoxins where they exist) often does far more good than trying to purge the substance from the body. Finally, in some cases a drug, alcohol, or other overdose can cause unconsciousness and someone vomiting can breathe in their own vomit (pulmonary aspiration), complicating their potential survival with a nasty case of pneumonia or asphyxiation. If the poison was a strong acid, alkali, or a petroleum product, vomiting could cause further damage to the esophagus and mouth. It is important to note that many countries offer a poison control hotline[[note]]1-800-222-1222 hotline,[[note]]1-800-222-1222 in the United States[[/note]], States[[/note]] which can offer expert advice and specific instructions for the particular poison ingested (if known). If these guys say to induce vomiting, do it; however, as noted before, this is a situational precaution, and should not be attempted unless it is known for certain it is the right thing to do.
27th Aug '17 10:19:50 AM nombretomado
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* Discussed in ''VideoGame/ArTonelico Qoga''. The first revival item the party can get is a syringe, and in an optional skit, the characters dicuss how dangerous this is, since the don't known if it's intravenous or intramuscular, where to apply it, or the proper dosage. Consequently, they decide to only use them if things get dire (GameplayAndStorySegregation aside). When a professional MD later joins the party, later skits indicate he's been giving the other characters pointers on safely treating each other.

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* Discussed in ''VideoGame/ArTonelico Qoga''.''VideoGame/ArTonelicoQogaKnellOfArCiel''. The first revival item the party can get is a syringe, and in an optional skit, the characters dicuss how dangerous this is, since the don't known if it's intravenous or intramuscular, where to apply it, or the proper dosage. Consequently, they decide to only use them if things get dire (GameplayAndStorySegregation aside). When a professional MD later joins the party, later skits indicate he's been giving the other characters pointers on safely treating each other.
10th Aug '17 7:44:22 PM Amahn
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* An episode of ''Series/{{MASH}}'' lampshades this. When several soldiers from a British unit are brought in Hawkeye complains that the British Army's policy of [[SpotOfTea giving tea to wounded soldiers]], especially those with belly wounds, leads to tea leaking into the peritoneal cavity causing peritonitis. The British officer agrees that it makes sense and that he'll bring it up with command, but laments "I don't know. If it were anything but tea...".
27th Jul '17 1:13:22 PM Theatre_Maven_3695
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* As mentioned on the OverTheShoulderCarry RealLife section, this as a result of the poor medical training most band crews/roadies tend to have probably exacerbated Music/YoshikiHayashi's neck and back injuries. Crew and roadies carried him off the stage in ways that, if you have any knowledge of spinal cord injury, are absolutely ''cringeworthy.'' After he actually broke his neck onstage in 1995, he was carried offstage by untrained roadies rather than left in place to be properly removed from the stage by paramedics with proper stabilizing equipment, and [[WhatAnIdiot his crew did the same thing]] after he collapsed from exhaustion in 2008 despite having existing spinal cord injury and no neck brace at the time.

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* As mentioned on the OverTheShoulderCarry RealLife section, this as a result of the poor medical training most band crews/roadies tend to have probably exacerbated Music/YoshikiHayashi's neck and back injuries. Crew and roadies carried him off the stage in ways that, if you have any knowledge of spinal cord injury, are absolutely ''cringeworthy.'' After he actually broke his neck onstage in 1995, he was carried offstage by untrained roadies rather than left in place to be properly removed from the stage by paramedics with proper stabilizing equipment, and [[WhatAnIdiot his crew did the same thing]] thing after he collapsed from exhaustion in 2008 despite having existing spinal cord injury and no neck brace at the time.
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