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24th Jul '17 1:13:02 PM Wynauttica
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24th Jul '17 1:05:52 PM Wynauttica
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[[caption-width-right:350:DontTryThisAtHome... or at all for that matter.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:DontTryThisAtHome... or at all all, for that matter.]]
23rd Jul '17 3:57:50 PM nombretomado
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* Narrowly averted in ''Film/HardcoreHenry'' when Henry goes to remove a piece of glass from Wheelchair Jimmy's neck only for WW2 Jimmy to tell him it'd only make the bleeding worse.

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* Narrowly averted in ''Film/HardcoreHenry'' when Henry goes to remove a piece of glass from Wheelchair Jimmy's neck only for WW2 [=WW2=] Jimmy to tell him it'd only make the bleeding worse.
1st Jul '17 1:58:30 AM Piterpicher
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* Disregarding the security of an accident scene or even personal safety, in violation of the most important rule: Avoid increasing the number of casualties. Rushing onto the freeway isn't any more safe because there's an upended car on it. This one's popular in real life--paramedics get called out at least weekly in some areas for accidents caused by people running onto the freeway to help. It may seem cold but SavingPrivateRyan outcomes aren't the goal, especially when there are many Private Ryans.

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* Disregarding the security of an accident scene or even personal safety, in violation of the most important rule: Avoid increasing the number of casualties. Rushing onto the freeway isn't any more safe because there's an upended car on it. This one's popular in real life--paramedics get called out at least weekly in some areas for accidents caused by people running onto the freeway to help. It may seem cold but SavingPrivateRyan Film/SavingPrivateRyan outcomes aren't the goal, especially when there are many Private Ryans.
1st Jun '17 9:42:04 PM trixus
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* ''Film/BonCopBadCop'' 2 exploit this when David, being undercover, has to fake treating a real gunshot wound for like a criminal with no assistance nor knowledge of medicine on the run would. He refuses going to the hospital or having his daughter use a first aid kit and makes a bandage out of napkins, use coffee and ecstasy to stay awake and dull the pain, use a common needle and dirty a shirt in a litter box to look like he slept outside. A wise move since the BigBad had a [[ProperlyParanoid doctor running a blood test]] before giving him proper aid.

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* ''Film/BonCopBadCop'' 2 exploit this when David, being undercover, has to fake treating a real gunshot wound for wound like a criminal with no assistance nor knowledge of medicine on the run would. He refuses going to the hospital or having his daughter use a first aid kit and makes a bandage out of napkins, use coffee and ecstasy to stay awake and dull the pain, use a common needle and dirty a shirt in a litter box to look like he slept outside. A wise move since the BigBad had a [[ProperlyParanoid doctor running a blood test]] before giving him proper aid.
1st Jun '17 9:41:08 PM trixus
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* ''Film/BonCopBadCop'' 2 exploit this when David, being undercover, has to fake treating a real gunshot wound for like a criminal with no assistance nor knowledge of medicine on the run would. He refuses going to the hospital or having his daughter use a first aid kit and makes a bandage out of napkins, use coffee and ecstasy to stay awake and dull the pain, use a common needle and dirty a shirt in a litter box to look like he slept outside. A wise move since the BigBad had a [[ProperlyParanoid doctor running a blood test]] before giving him proper aid.
22nd May '17 4:50:03 PM Kadorhal
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* ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' makes the curious mistake of having the ''computer-generated [=NPCs=]'' do CPR wrong. The usual justification for the sort of "bent elbows" CPR (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZguxm-Sqtc#t=7m20s ) common in media mentioned in the opening of this article doesn't really apply. In this case it seems to be a case of art imitating art, even after the reason has disappeared. Another theory is that in the age of motion capture work being used to give the most natural realistic looking movements in games, the team used to play the [=NPCs=] couldn't do straight arms without hurting the actor playing the injured person, so it's been grandfathered in even though actual actors are no longer used.

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* ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'' makes the curious mistake of having the ''computer-generated [=NPCs=]'' do CPR wrong. The usual justification for the sort of "bent elbows" CPR (see http://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZguxm-Sqtc#t=7m20s ) here]]) common in media mentioned in the opening of this article doesn't really apply. In this case it seems to be a case of art imitating art, even after the reason has disappeared. Another theory is that in the age of motion capture work being used to give the most natural realistic looking movements in games, the team used to play the [=NPCs=] couldn't do straight arms without hurting the actor playing the injured person, so it's been grandfathered in even though actual actors are no longer used.



* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4'', at the end of Act 3, Drebin just yanks a knife out of Snake's shoulder, and aside from an initial blood cloud upon removal, he seems to be fine. Why Drebin didn't wait until they were back on the plane is a mystery.

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'', at the end of Act 3, Drebin just yanks a knife out of Snake's shoulder, and aside from an initial blood cloud upon removal, he seems to be fine. Why Drebin didn't wait until they were back on the plane is a mystery.
22nd May '17 4:15:23 PM Kadorhal
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** Actually, the Doktor period. While [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lSzUMBJnc performing open-heart surgery]] he has the patient hold their chest cavity open while he pushes the organ (which he had previously extracted) up through the bottom of their ribcage before pointing his "side-effect of healing" weapon at them. Also: "Don't worry, ribs grow back! [whispers] No they don't." All of this is done without gloves. Gloves he later puts on to kill people with.
-->[A dove covered in blood climbs out of Heavy's torso]\\

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** Actually, the The Doktor period.is more or less this trope incarnate. While [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lSzUMBJnc performing open-heart surgery]] he has the patient hold their chest cavity open while he pushes the organ (which he had previously extracted) in this case is actually a "mega baboon" heart, since turning his medigun beam on the Heavy's actual heart made it immediately ''explode'') up through the bottom of their ribcage before pointing his "side-effect of healing" weapon at them. Also: "Don't worry, ribs grow back! [whispers] ''[whispers to his bird]'' No they don't." All of this is done without gloves. Gloves he later puts on to kill people with.
-->[A -->''[A dove covered in blood climbs out of Heavy's torso]\\torso]''\\



** To give an idea how bad he is: This is a hospital procedure he's performing.



'''Medic:''' Ha! Yes. What foolishness. (sotto voce) ''Miss Pauling, I've been using my own underwear to sponge blood out of puddles. Trust me, the type is the least of your problems.''

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'''Medic:''' Ha! Yes. What foolishness. (sotto voce) ''Miss ''(sotto voce)'' Miss Pauling, I've been using my own underwear to sponge blood out of puddles. Trust me, the type is the least of your problems.''



** The third game shows that this behavior isn't entirely without consequence--Max is a barely-functional addict for those painkillers.

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** The third game shows that this behavior [[RealityEnsues isn't entirely without consequence--Max consequence]] -- Max is a barely-functional addict for those painkillers.painkillers after downing them like candy for the entirety of the first two games.
22nd May '17 4:03:58 PM Kadorhal
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* In ''VideoGame/SplinterCell: Chaos Theory'', the antagonist commits {{Seppuku}}, and you need him alive. Solution? Oh just rip that knife right out of him, which counts as "stabilizing" him. Just for good measure, shoot the windows out of the underwater base so you can carry him while swimming. In this life-or-death situation where seconds count, Sam takes the time to [[GameplayAndStorySegregation respectfully set the knife down]].

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* In ''VideoGame/SplinterCell: Chaos Theory'', the antagonist commits {{Seppuku}}, and you need him alive. Solution? Oh Oh, just rip that knife right out of him, which counts as him. Worse, Lambert will explicitly call this "stabilizing" him. Just for good measure, shoot the windows out of the ''underwater base'' (did we mention you're in an underwater base base?) so you can carry him while swimming. In Also, in this life-or-death situation where seconds count, Sam takes the time to [[GameplayAndStorySegregation respectfully set the knife down]].



** The original game seems to poke fun at this, however, where an NPC in the Kalinatek mission requests you carry him to the medical office to treat his wounds. Fisher promptly carries him there [[OverTheShoulderCarry across his shoulders]] like he would for any other unconscious or dead guard he's stuffing in the shadows to avoid alerts - and afterwards, said NPC gives a bit of exposition, then dies anyway.

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** The original game seems to poke fun at this, however, where an NPC in the Kalinatek mission requests you carry him to the medical office to treat his wounds. Fisher promptly carries him there [[OverTheShoulderCarry across his shoulders]] like he would for any other unconscious or dead guard he's stuffing in the shadows to avoid alerts - and afterwards, said NPC gives bleeds out and dies after giving a bit of exposition, then dies anyway.exposition.



** This is parodied mercilessly in ''VideoGame/FarCry3BloodDragon'' -- your first aid animations consist exclusively of ridiculous things, like fixing your cybernetic arm with a welding torch he pulls out of [[HammerSpace nowhere]] and flexing a grip strength bar to generate electricity.[[note]]The protagonist is a [[WeCanRebuildHim cyborg]] so the part about repairing an arm or generating electricity ''might'' make some sense but how is [[AwesomeMcCoolName Rex 'Power' Colt]] able to rebuild his normal organs is anybody's guess.[[/note]]
* In ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'', similar to the [=RE2=] example below, you heal yourself or others by wrapping bandages on your/their clothing, and always in the same spots, too. Or, if you're in a hurry, by swallowing an ''entire bottle'' of painkillers, enough to ''kill'' an average person. Lampshaded in the sequel, as the survivors will tell each other as they're doing it that they don't know exactly what they're doing. It still works, somehow.

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** This is parodied mercilessly in ''VideoGame/FarCry3BloodDragon'' -- your first aid animations consist exclusively of ridiculous things, like fixing your cybernetic arm with a welding torch he pulls out of [[HammerSpace nowhere]] and flexing a grip strength bar to generate electricity.[[note]]The protagonist is a [[WeCanRebuildHim cyborg]] so the part about repairing an arm or generating electricity ''might'' make some sense sense, but how is [[AwesomeMcCoolName Rex 'Power' Colt]] is able to rebuild his normal organs is anybody's guess.[[/note]]
* In ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'', similar to the [=RE2=] example below, example, you heal yourself or others by wrapping bandages on your/their clothing, and always in the same spots, too. Or, if you're in a hurry, by swallowing an ''entire bottle'' of painkillers, enough to ''kill'' an average person. [[note]]In some fairness, the bottles rattle about enough when equipped that there can't be very many pills left, also explaining why they're single-use like the medkits - but it's still far more than the one or two pills an actual safe dosage would ask for.[[/note]] Lampshaded in the sequel, as the survivors will tell each other as they're doing it that they don't know exactly what they're doing. It still works, somehow.



** Due to a programming oversight with the survivor AI, they will often try and heal players at the most inconvenient times, such as when they're trying to move somewhere safe, or in rare cases in the middle of combat. The only way to get them to stop is to stop what you're doing and pull out your own first aid kit or pills, which you may not have. On the higher difficulties, this distraction can be lethal.

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** Due to [[ArtificialStupidity a programming oversight with the survivor AI, AI]], they will often try and heal players at the most inconvenient times, such as when they're trying to move somewhere safe, or in rare cases in the middle of combat.combat - getting stuck right in the middle of Spitter goo and having your feet melted off because Coach decided the cry of said Spitter was the call to heal you is infamously a more common occurrence than it should be. The only way to get them to stop is to stop what you're doing and pull out your own first aid kit or pills, which you may not have. On the higher difficulties, this distraction can be lethal.
19th May '17 12:08:34 AM Kadorhal
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** Two sidequests in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' require you to treat some patients in critical but stable condition. If your Medicine skill is sufficient you'll perform proper treatments (with congratulations from the attending doctor, who presumably is taking notes), but if it's insufficient you'll end up killing the patients in rather horrific ways, such as attempting a tracheotomy on a patient with a simple allergic reaction (he bleeds to death). You can also kill Caesar with improper brain surgery during "Et Tumor, Brute?".

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** Two sidequests in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' require you to treat some patients in critical but stable condition. If your Medicine skill is sufficient you'll perform proper treatments (with congratulations from the attending doctor, who presumably is taking notes), but if it's insufficient you'll end up killing the patients in rather horrific ways, such as attempting a tracheotomy on a patient with a simple allergic reaction (he bleeds to death). You can also kill Caesar with improper brain surgery during "Et Tumor, Brute?".Brute?" - or, wrapping this trope around into ridiculousness, heal him of that tumor with no medical skills, a lot of Luck, and ''no idea how the hell you even did it''.



* In ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas,'' the medical personnel can magical revive people who died from gunfire, explosions, and fire just with CPR, and have the balls to do it in an area an insane gunman (I.E. you) is still shooting up. That pales in comparison to all the people they '''run over''' in their pursuit of saving lives.

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* In ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas,'' the medical personnel can magical revive people who died from gunfire, explosions, and fire just with CPR, and have the balls to do it in an area an insane gunman (I.E. you) is still shooting up. That pales in comparison to all the people they '''run over''' in their pursuit of saving lives.a single life.



* In Website/SFDebris's review of the ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' episode "Innocence," he notes the position of the wounded [[{{Redshirt}} Goldshirt]] outside of a crashed shuttle and suggests that in order for the Goldshirt to get into this position, Tuvok would have had to have "hauled the guy with the back injury far enough to likely paralyze him but close enough that he'll still die if the shuttle explodes." [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident Though he does suggest the possibility that Tuvok was being incompetent on purpose, after Janeway ordered the elimination of a Goldshirt]] [[HeKnowsTooMuch who knows too much]].

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* In Website/SFDebris's review of the ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' episode "Innocence," he notes the position of the wounded [[{{Redshirt}} Goldshirt]] outside of a crashed shuttle and suggests that in order for the Goldshirt to get into this position, Tuvok would have had to have "hauled the guy with the back injury far enough to likely paralyze him but close enough that he'll still die if the shuttle explodes." [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident Though he does suggest the possibility that Tuvok was being incompetent on purpose, purpose]], after Janeway ordered the elimination of a Goldshirt]] Goldshirt who [[HeKnowsTooMuch who knows too much]].
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