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[[quoteright:265:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wwhulk-001_8686.png]] [[caption-width-right:265: HesBack, and guess what? [[MemeticMutation YOU'RE ALL]] ''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKED!]]'']] ->''"Puny humans. I've come to smash."'' A 2007 Marvel CrisisCrossover, which occurs between Comicbook/CivilWar and SecretInvasion. Before the Civil War, the Illuminati (a group consisting of IronMan, [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]], Comicbook/DoctorStrange, Prince Namor the {{Sub-Mariner}}, [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Professor Xavier]] and [[TheInhumans Black Bolt]]) made the decision that [[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] was a threat to the world because of his unstable and dangerous mood swings. Instead of killing him, they shot him into space, towards a planet without intelligent life where they hoped he'd find peace. However, due to a malfunction in the spaceship, the planet he landed on was Sakaar: a very harsh world where Hulk was captured, enslaved, and turned into a gladiator. Thus began ''PlanetHulk'', where Hulk fought for a living and eventually found friends and true love, toppling the local tyrannical ruler and effectively becoming the king himself. And they all lived HappilyEverAfter... [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle or did they?]] Unexpectedly, the ship which brought him to Sakaar exploded, shattering the planet and killing many people, including Hulk's wife and unborn child. Hulk got mad. So he gathered his remaining friends and returned to Earth, hellbent on making the Illuminati pay for what they did to him. At this time Hulk was in a new form, the Green Scar, who retained his mind and whose rage, while at levels it had never touched before, [[TranquilFury was dispassionate and icy cold]]. Already disorganized and estranged by Civil War, the heroes were unable to meet him in force. They were also suffering an enormous loss of popular support, which only increased once Hulk revealed what the Illuminati had done to him. In short, [[MemeticMutation they're all fucked when Hulk gets back]]. Hulk then turns the Earth heroes, ''especially'' the Illuminati, into gladiators, to make them feel his struggles and suffering before he was King. He spares Namor, who voted against the decision, and Professor X, who wasn't present (and after seeing the result of HouseOfM, Hulk decided that Xavier had suffered enough). He set the Illuminati against a monster; then forced them to take up weapons and try to kill each other. The moment is eventually interrupted by Superman CaptainErsatz The Sentry, who had overcome his SplitPersonality problem just in time to bring the battle to Hulk. The two beat each other into exhaustion, but it was enough to shake Hulk out of his rage and remember his humanity and their friendship -- just [[InterruptedCooldownHug in time for one of Hulk's allies to kill Rick Jones in front of Hulk]]. Oh, and that same ally had been the one who caused the destruction of Sakaar in the first place. Hulk goes off his rocker and slays him; everyone else would've been fucked if not for IronMan activating a satellite beam that subdued Hulk and turns him back to Bruce Banner. (Jones soon came BackFromTheDead. Again.) Bruce Banner is later imprisoned until he can control his Hulk self, and [[StatusQuoIsGod was later released]] when the mysterious [[EvilTwin Red Hulk]] appeared. Meanwhile, in the planet of Sakaar, it turns out that Hulk's son Skaar survived. But that is another story... In the aftermath of ''World War Hulk'', the title was turned into ''TheIncredibleHercules''. ---- !!Tropes used in ''World War Hulk'': * AntiHero (Type IV)/ AntiVillain: The Warbound * ArcWords: "May he who dies...die well" and "Never stop making them pay." * ArmorPiercingQuestion: Almost literally; as Hulk is trying to break through [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Sue Storm's]] force field to get at Reed, she pleads with him to stop. Hulk responds, "If I sent a bomb, killed your husband, your children, your whole world...would you '''ever''' stop?!" Sue is so taken aback that she lets down her guard, allowing Hulk to shatter her force field with the next punch, incapacitating her, and beat the living hell out of her husband. ** Hulk delivered another one to [[DeadSidekick Jim Wilson]]'s father. When the latter accuses him in his son's death, Hulk won't have any of it: -->'''Hulk:''' [[VerySpecialEpisode Jim died of]] ''[[VerySpecialEpisode AIDS]]''. And the avian flu is not my fault either. But what ''I'm'' wondering is why Jim was living on the streets when I met him? Why he said he was an ''orphan''? Why he never once mentioned '''you?''' * BadassBoast: Several. -->'''Doctor Strange:''' [''to Hulk during a (failed) attempt to talk him down''] Hear me well, Bruce... Your anger means ''nothing'' to me. I am the '''SORCERER SUPREME'''. I could snuff the feeble flame of your mortal life with the ''merest twitch of a finger''. But I am also your friend. -->'''Black Bolt''': [''to Hulk, very very quietly''] [[MakeMeWannaShout Enough]]. -->'''Hulk:''' I didn't come here for a whisper. I wanna hear you '''scream'''! * BrawlerLock: Hulk and the Juggernaut. Hulk wins it through brains. * CrisisCrossover: Duh. * CurbStompBattle: It's hard to describe what the Hulk did to the X-men in any other terms. Ghost Rider gets one in on Hulk during his tie-in to the story, more or less having a response to everything Hulk throws his way. Eventually he just drives off, figuring Hulk is actually in the ''[[JerkassHasAPoint right]]'' here, resulting in an ''[[OhCrap Oh CRAP]]'' moment for the Illuminati when Dr. Strange points this out to them. ** In one of the tie-ins, there's also a (probably non-canon) bit of comic relief showing the Hulk's fights against weaker Marvel characters, which show the Hulk, among other things, incapacitating them by flicking them with one finger. * DarkActionGirl: Elloe, No-Name was this at first. * DuelToTheDeath: See the ArcWords above. * EyeScream: Hulk gets his eyes put out ''twice'', the first time by X-23, and then by Wolverine. [[GoodThingYouCanHeal Good thing he can heal]]. He actually let Logan cut out his eyes so he'd get close enough to grab. * FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler:Miek]], who turned out to have been responsible for the destruction of Sakaar all along. * FanNickname: "War to See Who Is The Most Epically Brain Damaged By Running Into the Hulk's Fists Repeatedly" ** And [[http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61170/1170302-world_war_hulk___x_men__002_018_super.jpg the winner is]] [[http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7604/1046055-world_war_hulk___x_men__002_019_super.jpg Wolverine.]] * FightingFromTheInside: Averted, as Doctor Strange and others discover. Bruce Banner ''agrees'' with the Hulk and is working with him. * FiveManBand: Hulk and The Warbound: ** TheHero - Hulk ** TheLancer - Hiroim, who doubles up as TheSmartGuy ** TheBigGuy - Korg ** TheChick - Elloe sometimes, and although Brood fits this one better, [[BrainBleach we don't want to think about that too much....]] ** TheSixthRanger - Miek ** [[TagalongKid The Tagalong Kid]] - Poor Arch-E 5912, who gets killed off-panel in a tie-in issue. *** He came back to life in ''ComicBook/DamageControl'' though. * ForeShadowing: Banner tricking Doc Strange into lowering his guard so Hulk could cripple him could be seen as foreshadowing for Bruce's more cold, manipulative behavior after he [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]] in ''FallOfTheHulks''. * FreeFallFight: Hulk vs Iron Man ends up like this, with Hulk trashing Iron Man's Hulkbuster suit while they're in a state of free fall with Stark Tower collapsing around and beneath them. * GenreBlind: Korg does not have any clue on extraterrestrial tropes. When was the last time you saw someone seriously saying "TakeMeToYourLeader"? * GenreSavvy: Strange starts off like this, realizing that if they sent the Hulk away again with magic, he'd just smash up wherever they sent him to, and come back angrier and stronger. He promptly loses his savvy from there on out, though. Also, in the Gamma Corps one shot, old joke villain The Clown of the Circus of Crime demonstrates a downright scary(though not [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerous]] ) amount of genre savvy when he correctly deduces [[GeneralRipper General Ryker's]] plan before he even gets a word out. * GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side is entirely free from blame, but neither is entirely in the right either. The Illuminati had done some shady things, and basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to Hulk being an uncontrollable monster, but they weren't guilty of the crimes leveled against them by Hulk, who in turn may have had a good reason to be angry, but went about getting justice in a profoundly counterproductive manner that [[NotSoDifferent basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to the Illuminati being 100% pure evil]]. * IdiotBall: Everyone! None of the heroes try to exploit the Hulk's weaknesses such as gamma dampeners. Iron Man attacks him with the slower and always weaker Hulk-Buster armor, while Reed tries to reason with him. Yes, talk sense to UnstoppableRage. ** Darwin tries gamma absorption, Prof. X and Emma Frost try psychic attacks, Iron-Man tries neutralizing Hulk's healing factor, Doctor Strange tries to get through to the friendly (or so he mistakenly believes) Bruce Banner locked in Hulk's mind, Reed tries simulating the radiation that the Sentry gives off that calms (and thereby weakens) the Hulk. Hulk just {{No Sell}}s it. * InterruptedCooldownHug: [[ShootTheShaggyDog Elevated to an art form.]] ** Hulk and Banner actually take advantage of the cool down hug by letting Doctor Strange think it's working, tricking him into lowering his guard. * JerkAss: There is no question that the Hulk's persona takes this turn. ** Miek. * JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: Dr. Strange tries this to get Hulk to calm down. [[spoiler:It doesn't work, and Strange gets his hands broken]]. * KickTheSonOfABitch: The Illuminati did deserve a good ass-kicking. * NobleDemon: Hiroim. * NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: The battle with Sentry is a ''mutual'' example, though Hulk insisted afterwards that even then he was holding back. * NotSoDifferent: In ''World War Hulk: Frontline'', Ben Urich attends the gladiator matches set up by the Hulk so he can report on them later. He's shocked by the blood lust and barbarism...of his fellow humans who are cheering the display. He comments that the Hulk's Sakaaran forces aren't invading or occupying Earth. You can't be invaded when the invaders are just like you. * OhCrap: The reaction many of the heroes had when Hulk announced his return, having already beaten Black Bolt, one of the very few beings on Earth who was considered more powerful than him showing he's even ''stronger'' than he was before, and in addition has a posse of super-strong pals, most of whom are all are jonesing for {{Revenge}}. ** One by the Sakaarans when the Sentry shatters their starship and busts out something approaching his full power. ** Hardball, when he realises the power-negating S.P.I.N.Tech dart Iron Man was about to use on Hulk was an empty he substituted when he stole the real one for Hydra. * OptOut: The Ghost Rider originally shows up to stop Hulk, but (being the Spirit of Vengeance as he is) he claims that Hulk's vengeance is justified and rides away rather than defend the Illuminati. * OutOfTheInferno: After the X-men crash their jet on top of him. [[ImprovisedWeaponUser He kindly returns it]]. * TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After having a few people testify as to why the members of the Illuminati suck, Hulk delivers one himself. -->'''Hulk:''' Don't like it, do you? It's not fair. Not the whole story. You have excuses. Explanations. You're innocent. These people don't know what really happened. They don't know what's in your heart. Now you know how it feels. * RoaringRampageOfRevenge: The premise of the storyline. * ShootTheShaggyDog: InterruptedCooldownHug, more irritating than ever, of course. * SmokeShield: At least twice; after Tony blasts him with missiles, and after the Human Torch and Storm combine a lightning bolt and fireball. * StrangeMindsThinkAlike: -->'''Doctor Strange:''' (to Tony Stark, referring to the Hulk) ''He withstood Blackbolt's voice. Do you think your machines can stop him?'' -->Later: -->'''Hulk:''' (to Tony Stark, referring to the Sentry) ''Stupid humans. You think your machines can stop him?'' * ThouShaltNotKill: Hulk's rule for himself and his Warbound is that none of them will kill a human (showing themselves to be 'better' than the Illuminati). Beating them to within inches of their lives, however? Perfectly acceptable. * TokenEvilTeammate: With the single exception of Hiroim, everyone from Sakaar wants to nuke Earth and kill everybody. In their defense, until the Big Reveal at the end it did seem like Earthmen (specifically the Illuminati) had done the same thing to their home planet, so this is kinda [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. Later played straight with [[spoiler:Miek]], though. ** Not quite everyone; [[GentleGiant Korg]] wanted to leave after a while, thinking they'd made their point. * TranquilFury: Though Hulk is "madder than he's ever been", he's nowhere near as savage as he usually is due to his time on Sakaar making him smarter. * UnstoppableRage: The madder Hulk gets, the stronger he.... aw, fuck it, we're sick of hearing it, too. ** Of course, the birth of the Green Scar persona is implied to have been caused by the Hulk reaching heights of anger he never had before, too. * ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Not one nonviolent attempt to stop the Hulk or talk him down from his rage succeeds. The characters who try appealing to Hulk's friendship or better nature get slapped down just as brutally as the ones who are unashamedly out to kill him. * WhatIf: The ''ComicBook/WhatIf: Planet Hulk'' and ''What If: World War Hulk'' specials offered three versions of it: ** One version had it that IronMan's nuclear strike to subdue Hulk ended up wiping out most of the heroes, one of them being [[SecretInvasion Skrull Queen Veranke]] (under the guise of SpiderWoman), causing the Skrulls to view Hulk as some sort of prophet of their upcoming invasion. When SecretInvasion kicks in, even ''more heroes die'', but Hulk wises up and joins the resistance against Skrull... and then it turns out Wasp was being impersonated by the Skrulls rather than Hank Pym, and then plants the human bomb serum to Hank, again, wiping out almost all heroes and humanity... except Hulk. When Silver Surfer visits, Hulk demands that Galactus wipe out the Skrull planet as his vengeance, and after being left all alone again, Galactus promotes him as his Herald. ** Another version had [[TheMightyThor Thor and the Asgard warriors]] join in the brawl, but was interrupted when an innocent civilian pleads them to use their strength not to fight each other, but to help them from peril. While doing that, Hulk was reminded of his old friendship with the fellow heroes, and Miek's treachery was discovered before it could result a great disaster. Sentry came too late as eventually Thor told the heroes to redouble their efforts to win the people's trust, and Hulk went back to Sakaar to rebuild the planet and punish the traitorous Miek. Yeah, they really DID live HappilyEverAfter. ** A third has both Miek and the ''Hulk'' dying instead of Caiera, who goes on such an utter [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge retaliatory attack]] that she actually ''kills'' the Illuminati (except possibly Namor and Prof. X), and takes over the planet, forcing the humans and the other heroes to build a massive statue for the Hulk that takes twenty-one years to construct before using her powers to turn herself permanently to stone. Because of Miek's death in the blast, his treachery is never discovered, meaning that ''Caiera's actions make her an utter monster because while she believed herself justified due to the way life on Sakaar works, the human race is now damned to live as slaves to people who pretty much worshiped a monster that was too dangerous to live on their world.'' She even lampshades it when she is convinced by Hiroim to spare the rest of the world after killing the Illuminati because if she didn't nobody would be left to honor his memory, to which she claims, "They'll wish they were dead". To be fair, she's probably right, also features the first appearance by an Adult Skaar, one of the sons of Hulk by Caiera. * WhatTheHellHero: After learning about what the Illuminati did, and what with the [[PlethoraOfMistakes Plethora Of Bad Decisions]] surrounding the [[{{ComicBook/CivilWar}} Civil War]], many people end up rooting for the Hulk and his Warbound. * WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou: Tony Stark, just coming off Civil War mind you, does a version of this with She-Hulk. It's not Tony's fault that Jennifer made him use highly illegal and experimental nanites to cut off her powers. After all she was completely out of order getting mad at him for sending her cousin into space. * TheWorfEffect: [[TheInhumans Black Bolt]] was considered to be one of the very broken characters in cosmic Marvel, but Hulk takes him down first, and almost entirely off panel. [[spoiler:Though that ends up subverted come SecretInvasion, when it turns out Hulk just beat down his Skrull imposter.]] ** A better example would be when he defeated Doctor Strange (bar none ''the'' top sorcerer in the universe), while Strange was channeling a demon so powerful that Umar herself feared it. (But WorfHadTheFlu; see below) ** Hulk also beat the Sentry, who was considered the most powerful superhuman on the planet at the time, albeit not entirely mentally stable. This was a rare double Worf-ing, since the point was to show that Sentry and the Hulk were the only people who could have a full-out, nothing-held-back fight without one instantly obliterating the other. * WorfHadTheFlu: Doctor Strange lost to the Hulk, even though Strange would have won easily if he'd been going for the kill. In Strange's defense, 1. the last thing he wanted was to kill his friend Bruce; 2. his attempt at a non-lethal solution had backfired and left him too crippled for his usual sorcery; and 3. he was struggling to hold Zom back from murdering everyone. When he let Zom have control he was winning easily, but as soon as he saw that ordinary people were in danger he got distracted and subsequently lost the fight. * WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Because Hulk's the only one the Sentry can hit... "[[TalkToTheFist LIKE THIS.]]" * WorthyOpponent: After their brief battle, Hiroim seems to consider Iron Fist to be this, shocked that the human was able to actually hurt him. -->'''Hiroim:''' I will pray for you, Iron Fist. ----
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[[quoteright:265:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wwhulk-001_8686.png]] [[caption-width-right:265: HesBack, and guess what? [[MemeticMutation YOU'RE ALL]] ''[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKED!]]'']] ->''"Puny humans. I've come to smash."'' A 2007 Marvel CrisisCrossover, which occurs between Comicbook/CivilWar and SecretInvasion. Before the Civil War, the Illuminati (a group consisting of IronMan, [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]], Comicbook/DoctorStrange, Prince Namor the {{Sub-Mariner}}, [[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Professor Xavier]] and [[TheInhumans Black Bolt]]) made the decision that [[Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] was a threat to the world because of his unstable and dangerous mood swings. Instead of killing him, they shot him into space, towards a planet without intelligent life where they hoped he'd find peace. However, due to a malfunction in the spaceship, the planet he landed on was Sakaar: a very harsh world where Hulk was captured, enslaved, and turned into a gladiator. Thus began ''PlanetHulk'', where Hulk fought for a living and eventually found friends and true love, toppling the local tyrannical ruler and effectively becoming the king himself. And they all lived HappilyEverAfter... [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle or did they?]] Unexpectedly, the ship which brought him to Sakaar exploded, shattering the planet and killing many people, including Hulk's wife and unborn child. Hulk got mad. So he gathered his remaining friends and returned to Earth, hellbent on making the Illuminati pay for what they did to him. At this time Hulk was in a new form, the Green Scar, who retained his mind and whose rage, while at levels it had never touched before, [[TranquilFury was dispassionate and icy cold]]. Already disorganized and estranged by Civil War, the heroes were unable to meet him in force. They were also suffering an enormous loss of popular support, which only increased once Hulk revealed what the Illuminati had done to him. In short, [[MemeticMutation they're all fucked when Hulk gets back]]. Hulk then turns the Earth heroes, ''especially'' the Illuminati, into gladiators, to make them feel his struggles and suffering before he was King. He spares Namor, who voted against the decision, and Professor X, who wasn't present (and after seeing the result of HouseOfM, Hulk decided that Xavier had suffered enough). He set the Illuminati against a monster; then forced them to take up weapons and try to kill each other. The moment is eventually interrupted by Superman CaptainErsatz The Sentry, who had overcome his SplitPersonality problem just in time to bring the battle to Hulk. The two beat each other into exhaustion, but it was enough to shake Hulk out of his rage and remember his humanity and their friendship -- just [[InterruptedCooldownHug in time for one of Hulk's allies to kill Rick Jones in front of Hulk]]. Oh, and that same ally had been the one who caused the destruction of Sakaar in the first place. Hulk goes off his rocker and slays him; everyone else would've been fucked if not for IronMan activating a satellite beam that subdued Hulk and turns him back to Bruce Banner. (Jones soon came BackFromTheDead. Again.) Bruce Banner is later imprisoned until he can control his Hulk self, and [[StatusQuoIsGod was later released]] when the mysterious [[EvilTwin Red Hulk]] appeared. Meanwhile, in the planet of Sakaar, it turns out that Hulk's son Skaar survived. But that is another story... In the aftermath of ''World War Hulk'', the title was turned into ''TheIncredibleHercules''. ---- !!Tropes used in ''World War Hulk'': * AntiHero (Type IV)/ AntiVillain: The Warbound * ArcWords: "May he who dies...die well" and "Never stop making them pay." * ArmorPiercingQuestion: Almost literally; as Hulk is trying to break through [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Sue Storm's]] force field to get at Reed, she pleads with him to stop. Hulk responds, "If I sent a bomb, killed your husband, your children, your whole world...would you '''ever''' stop?!" Sue is so taken aback that she lets down her guard, allowing Hulk to shatter her force field with the next punch, incapacitating her, and beat the living hell out of her husband. ** Hulk delivered another one to [[DeadSidekick Jim Wilson]]'s father. When the latter accuses him in his son's death, Hulk won't have any of it: -->'''Hulk:''' [[VerySpecialEpisode Jim died of]] ''[[VerySpecialEpisode AIDS]]''. And the avian flu is not my fault either. But what ''I'm'' wondering is why Jim was living on the streets when I met him? Why he said he was an ''orphan''? Why he never once mentioned '''you?''' * BadassBoast: Several. -->'''Doctor Strange:''' [''to Hulk during a (failed) attempt to talk him down''] Hear me well, Bruce... Your anger means ''nothing'' to me. I am the '''SORCERER SUPREME'''. I could snuff the feeble flame of your mortal life with the ''merest twitch of a finger''. But I am also your friend. -->'''Black Bolt''': [''to Hulk, very very quietly''] [[MakeMeWannaShout Enough]]. -->'''Hulk:''' I didn't come here for a whisper. I wanna hear you '''scream'''! * BrawlerLock: Hulk and the Juggernaut. Hulk wins it through brains. * CrisisCrossover: Duh. * CurbStompBattle: It's hard to describe what the Hulk did to the X-men in any other terms. Ghost Rider gets one in on Hulk during his tie-in to the story, more or less having a response to everything Hulk throws his way. Eventually he just drives off, figuring Hulk is actually in the ''[[JerkassHasAPoint right]]'' here, resulting in an ''[[OhCrap Oh CRAP]]'' moment for the Illuminati when Dr. Strange points this out to them. ** In one of the tie-ins, there's also a (probably non-canon) bit of comic relief showing the Hulk's fights against weaker Marvel characters, which show the Hulk, among other things, incapacitating them by flicking them with one finger. * DarkActionGirl: Elloe, No-Name was this at first. * DuelToTheDeath: See the ArcWords above. * EyeScream: Hulk gets his eyes put out ''twice'', the first time by X-23, and then by Wolverine. [[GoodThingYouCanHeal Good thing he can heal]]. He actually let Logan cut out his eyes so he'd get close enough to grab. * FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler:Miek]], who turned out to have been responsible for the destruction of Sakaar all along. * FanNickname: "War to See Who Is The Most Epically Brain Damaged By Running Into the Hulk's Fists Repeatedly" ** And [[http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61170/1170302-world_war_hulk___x_men__002_018_super.jpg the winner is]] [[http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7604/1046055-world_war_hulk___x_men__002_019_super.jpg Wolverine.]] * FightingFromTheInside: Averted, as Doctor Strange and others discover. Bruce Banner ''agrees'' with the Hulk and is working with him. * FiveManBand: Hulk and The Warbound: ** TheHero - Hulk ** TheLancer - Hiroim, who doubles up as TheSmartGuy ** TheBigGuy - Korg ** TheChick - Elloe sometimes, and although Brood fits this one better, [[BrainBleach we don't want to think about that too much....]] ** TheSixthRanger - Miek ** [[TagalongKid The Tagalong Kid]] - Poor Arch-E 5912, who gets killed off-panel in a tie-in issue. *** He came back to life in ''ComicBook/DamageControl'' though. * ForeShadowing: Banner tricking Doc Strange into lowering his guard so Hulk could cripple him could be seen as foreshadowing for Bruce's more cold, manipulative behavior after he [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]] in ''FallOfTheHulks''. * FreeFallFight: Hulk vs Iron Man ends up like this, with Hulk trashing Iron Man's Hulkbuster suit while they're in a state of free fall with Stark Tower collapsing around and beneath them. * GenreBlind: Korg does not have any clue on extraterrestrial tropes. When was the last time you saw someone seriously saying "TakeMeToYourLeader"? * GenreSavvy: Strange starts off like this, realizing that if they sent the Hulk away again with magic, he'd just smash up wherever they sent him to, and come back angrier and stronger. He promptly loses his savvy from there on out, though. Also, in the Gamma Corps one shot, old joke villain The Clown of the Circus of Crime demonstrates a downright scary(though not [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerous]] ) amount of genre savvy when he correctly deduces [[GeneralRipper General Ryker's]] plan before he even gets a word out. * GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side is entirely free from blame, but neither is entirely in the right either. The Illuminati had done some shady things, and basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to Hulk being an uncontrollable monster, but they weren't guilty of the crimes leveled against them by Hulk, who in turn may have had a good reason to be angry, but went about getting justice in a profoundly counterproductive manner that [[NotSoDifferent basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to the Illuminati being 100% pure evil]]. * IdiotBall: Everyone! None of the heroes try to exploit the Hulk's weaknesses such as gamma dampeners. Iron Man attacks him with the slower and always weaker Hulk-Buster armor, while Reed tries to reason with him. Yes, talk sense to UnstoppableRage. ** Darwin tries gamma absorption, Prof. X and Emma Frost try psychic attacks, Iron-Man tries neutralizing Hulk's healing factor, Doctor Strange tries to get through to the friendly (or so he mistakenly believes) Bruce Banner locked in Hulk's mind, Reed tries simulating the radiation that the Sentry gives off that calms (and thereby weakens) the Hulk. Hulk just {{No Sell}}s it. * InterruptedCooldownHug: [[ShootTheShaggyDog Elevated to an art form.]] ** Hulk and Banner actually take advantage of the cool down hug by letting Doctor Strange think it's working, tricking him into lowering his guard. * JerkAss: There is no question that the Hulk's persona takes this turn. ** Miek. * JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind: Dr. Strange tries this to get Hulk to calm down. [[spoiler:It doesn't work, and Strange gets his hands broken]]. * KickTheSonOfABitch: The Illuminati did deserve a good ass-kicking. * NobleDemon: Hiroim. * NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: The battle with Sentry is a ''mutual'' example, though Hulk insisted afterwards that even then he was holding back. * NotSoDifferent: In ''World War Hulk: Frontline'', Ben Urich attends the gladiator matches set up by the Hulk so he can report on them later. He's shocked by the blood lust and barbarism...of his fellow humans who are cheering the display. He comments that the Hulk's Sakaaran forces aren't invading or occupying Earth. You can't be invaded when the invaders are just like you. * OhCrap: The reaction many of the heroes had when Hulk announced his return, having already beaten Black Bolt, one of the very few beings on Earth who was considered more powerful than him showing he's even ''stronger'' than he was before, and in addition has a posse of super-strong pals, most of whom are all are jonesing for {{Revenge}}. ** One by the Sakaarans when the Sentry shatters their starship and busts out something approaching his full power. ** Hardball, when he realises the power-negating S.P.I.N.Tech dart Iron Man was about to use on Hulk was an empty he substituted when he stole the real one for Hydra. * OptOut: The Ghost Rider originally shows up to stop Hulk, but (being the Spirit of Vengeance as he is) he claims that Hulk's vengeance is justified and rides away rather than defend the Illuminati. * OutOfTheInferno: After the X-men crash their jet on top of him. [[ImprovisedWeaponUser He kindly returns it]]. * TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After having a few people testify as to why the members of the Illuminati suck, Hulk delivers one himself. -->'''Hulk:''' Don't like it, do you? It's not fair. Not the whole story. You have excuses. Explanations. You're innocent. These people don't know what really happened. They don't know what's in your heart. Now you know how it feels. * RoaringRampageOfRevenge: The premise of the storyline. * ShootTheShaggyDog: InterruptedCooldownHug, more irritating than ever, of course. * SmokeShield: At least twice; after Tony blasts him with missiles, and after the Human Torch and Storm combine a lightning bolt and fireball. * StrangeMindsThinkAlike: -->'''Doctor Strange:''' (to Tony Stark, referring to the Hulk) ''He withstood Blackbolt's voice. Do you think your machines can stop him?'' -->Later: -->'''Hulk:''' (to Tony Stark, referring to the Sentry) ''Stupid humans. You think your machines can stop him?'' * ThouShaltNotKill: Hulk's rule for himself and his Warbound is that none of them will kill a human (showing themselves to be 'better' than the Illuminati). Beating them to within inches of their lives, however? Perfectly acceptable. * TokenEvilTeammate: With the single exception of Hiroim, everyone from Sakaar wants to nuke Earth and kill everybody. In their defense, until the Big Reveal at the end it did seem like Earthmen (specifically the Illuminati) had done the same thing to their home planet, so this is kinda [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. Later played straight with [[spoiler:Miek]], though. ** Not quite everyone; [[GentleGiant Korg]] wanted to leave after a while, thinking they'd made their point. * TranquilFury: Though Hulk is "madder than he's ever been", he's nowhere near as savage as he usually is due to his time on Sakaar making him smarter. * UnstoppableRage: The madder Hulk gets, the stronger he.... aw, fuck it, we're sick of hearing it, too. ** Of course, the birth of the Green Scar persona is implied to have been caused by the Hulk reaching heights of anger he never had before, too. * ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Not one nonviolent attempt to stop the Hulk or talk him down from his rage succeeds. The characters who try appealing to Hulk's friendship or better nature get slapped down just as brutally as the ones who are unashamedly out to kill him. * WhatIf: The ''ComicBook/WhatIf: Planet Hulk'' and ''What If: World War Hulk'' specials offered three versions of it: ** One version had it that IronMan's nuclear strike to subdue Hulk ended up wiping out most of the heroes, one of them being [[SecretInvasion Skrull Queen Veranke]] (under the guise of SpiderWoman), causing the Skrulls to view Hulk as some sort of prophet of their upcoming invasion. When SecretInvasion kicks in, even ''more heroes die'', but Hulk wises up and joins the resistance against Skrull... and then it turns out Wasp was being impersonated by the Skrulls rather than Hank Pym, and then plants the human bomb serum to Hank, again, wiping out almost all heroes and humanity... except Hulk. When Silver Surfer visits, Hulk demands that Galactus wipe out the Skrull planet as his vengeance, and after being left all alone again, Galactus promotes him as his Herald. ** Another version had [[TheMightyThor Thor and the Asgard warriors]] join in the brawl, but was interrupted when an innocent civilian pleads them to use their strength not to fight each other, but to help them from peril. While doing that, Hulk was reminded of his old friendship with the fellow heroes, and Miek's treachery was discovered before it could result a great disaster. Sentry came too late as eventually Thor told the heroes to redouble their efforts to win the people's trust, and Hulk went back to Sakaar to rebuild the planet and punish the traitorous Miek. Yeah, they really DID live HappilyEverAfter. ** A third has both Miek and the ''Hulk'' dying instead of Caiera, who goes on such an utter [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge retaliatory attack]] that she actually ''kills'' the Illuminati (except possibly Namor and Prof. X), and takes over the planet, forcing the humans and the other heroes to build a massive statue for the Hulk that takes twenty-one years to construct before using her powers to turn herself permanently to stone. Because of Miek's death in the blast, his treachery is never discovered, meaning that ''Caiera's actions make her an utter monster because while she believed herself justified due to the way life on Sakaar works, the human race is now damned to live as slaves to people who pretty much worshiped a monster that was too dangerous to live on their world.'' She even lampshades it when she is convinced by Hiroim to spare the rest of the world after killing the Illuminati because if she didn't nobody would be left to honor his memory, to which she claims, "They'll wish they were dead". To be fair, she's probably right, also features the first appearance by an Adult Skaar, one of the sons of Hulk by Caiera. * WhatTheHellHero: After learning about what the Illuminati did, and what with the [[PlethoraOfMistakes Plethora Of Bad Decisions]] surrounding the [[{{ComicBook/CivilWar}} Civil War]], many people end up rooting for the Hulk and his Warbound. * WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou: Tony Stark, just coming off Civil War mind you, does a version of this with She-Hulk. It's not Tony's fault that Jennifer made him use highly illegal and experimental nanites to cut off her powers. After all she was completely out of order getting mad at him for sending her cousin into space. * TheWorfEffect: [[TheInhumans Black Bolt]] was considered to be one of the very broken characters in cosmic Marvel, but Hulk takes him down first, and almost entirely off panel. [[spoiler:Though that ends up subverted come SecretInvasion, when it turns out Hulk just beat down his Skrull imposter.]] ** A better example would be when he defeated Doctor Strange (bar none ''the'' top sorcerer in the universe), while Strange was channeling a demon so powerful that Umar herself feared it. (But WorfHadTheFlu; see below) ** Hulk also beat the Sentry, who was considered the most powerful superhuman on the planet at the time, albeit not entirely mentally stable. This was a rare double Worf-ing, since the point was to show that Sentry and the Hulk were the only people who could have a full-out, nothing-held-back fight without one instantly obliterating the other. * WorfHadTheFlu: Doctor Strange lost to the Hulk, even though Strange would have won easily if he'd been going for the kill. In Strange's defense, 1. the last thing he wanted was to kill his friend Bruce; 2. his attempt at a non-lethal solution had backfired and left him too crippled for his usual sorcery; and 3. he was struggling to hold Zom back from murdering everyone. When he let Zom have control he was winning easily, but as soon as he saw that ordinary people were in danger he got distracted and subsequently lost the fight. * WorldOfCardboardSpeech: Because Hulk's the only one the Sentry can hit... "[[TalkToTheFist LIKE THIS.]]" * WorthyOpponent: After their brief battle, Hiroim seems to consider Iron Fist to be this, shocked that the human was able to actually hurt him. -->'''Hiroim:''' I will pray for you, Iron Fist. ----[[redirect:ComicBook/WorldWarHulk]]
22nd Jul '13 8:11:33 AM Chariset
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** A better example would be when he defeated Dr Strange (bar none ''the'' top sorcerer in the universe), while Strange was channeling a demon so powerful that Umar herself feared it. (But see Word Had the Flu, below) ** Hulk also beat the Sentry, who was considered the most powerful superhuman on the planet at the time, albeit not entirely mentally stable. This was a rare double Worf-ing, since Hulk was enough to beat Sentry, but Sentry -- going all out -- was able to exhaust Hulk and force him (temporarily) back into Bruce Banner. * WorfHadTheFlu: Doctor Strange lost to the Hulk, even though Strange would have won easily if he'd been going for the kill. In Strange's defense, 1. the last thing he wanted was to kill his friend Bruce; 2. his attempt at a non-lethal solution had backfired and left him too crippled for his usual sorcery; and 3. he was struggling to hold Zom back from murdering everyone. As long as he let Zom have control he was winning easily, but as soon as he saw that ordinary people were in danger he lost his concentration and subsequently lost the fight.
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** A better example would be when he defeated Dr Doctor Strange (bar none ''the'' top sorcerer in the universe), while Strange was channeling a demon so powerful that Umar herself feared it. (But WorfHadTheFlu; see Word Had the Flu, below) ** Hulk also beat the Sentry, who was considered the most powerful superhuman on the planet at the time, albeit not entirely mentally stable. This was a rare double Worf-ing, since Hulk the point was enough to beat Sentry, but show that Sentry -- going all out -- was able to exhaust and the Hulk and force him (temporarily) back into Bruce Banner. were the only people who could have a full-out, nothing-held-back fight without one instantly obliterating the other. * WorfHadTheFlu: Doctor Strange lost to the Hulk, even though Strange would have won easily if he'd been going for the kill. In Strange's defense, 1. the last thing he wanted was to kill his friend Bruce; 2. his attempt at a non-lethal solution had backfired and left him too crippled for his usual sorcery; and 3. he was struggling to hold Zom back from murdering everyone. As long as When he let Zom have control he was winning easily, but as soon as he saw that ordinary people were in danger he lost his concentration got distracted and subsequently lost the fight.
22nd Jul '13 1:06:56 AM Chariset
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** A better example would be when he defeated Dr Strange (Bar none THE number 1 sorcerer in the universe). On his own he should have been able to casually TKO Hulk, but he was also at the time channeling the powers of the even-more-ludicrously-powerful-than-Strange demon Zom ([[FridgeLogic for some reason]]), and who had [[BadassBoast bragged at length about how easily he could turn Hulk to dust]]. He got his hands broken for his efforts. ** Hulk also beat the Sentry, who was considered the most powerful superhuman on the planet at the time, albeit not entirely mentally stable. *** The Sentry example is a bit dodgy as the Hulk was forced back into Bruce by the fight. * WorfHadTheFlu: The reason Strange did so poorly against Hulk when he should by all rights have been able to turn Hulk to dust with a snap of his fingers was because the demon he was channeling was too powerful for him to fully control and while he was focused on keeping Zom contained, Hulk did a SneakAttack and that's all she wrote.
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** A better example would be when he defeated Dr Strange (Bar (bar none THE number 1 ''the'' top sorcerer in the universe). On his own he should have been able to casually TKO Hulk, but he universe), while Strange was also at the time channeling the powers of the even-more-ludicrously-powerful-than-Strange a demon Zom ([[FridgeLogic for some reason]]), and who had [[BadassBoast bragged at length about how easily he could turn Hulk to dust]]. He got his hands broken for his efforts. so powerful that Umar herself feared it. (But see Word Had the Flu, below) ** Hulk also beat the Sentry, who was considered the most powerful superhuman on the planet at the time, albeit not entirely mentally stable. *** The Sentry example is stable. This was a bit dodgy as the rare double Worf-ing, since Hulk was forced enough to beat Sentry, but Sentry -- going all out -- was able to exhaust Hulk and force him (temporarily) back into Bruce by the fight. Banner. * WorfHadTheFlu: The reason Doctor Strange did so poorly against Hulk when he should by all rights lost to the Hulk, even though Strange would have won easily if he'd been able going for the kill. In Strange's defense, 1. the last thing he wanted was to turn Hulk to dust with a snap of kill his fingers was because the demon friend Bruce; 2. his attempt at a non-lethal solution had backfired and left him too crippled for his usual sorcery; and 3. he was channeling was too powerful for him struggling to fully hold Zom back from murdering everyone. As long as he let Zom have control and while he was focused on keeping Zom contained, Hulk did a SneakAttack winning easily, but as soon as he saw that ordinary people were in danger he lost his concentration and that's all she wrote.subsequently lost the fight.
14th Jul '13 5:39:00 AM GrigorII
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* GenreBlind: Korg does not have any clue on extraterrestrial tropes. When was the last time you saw someone seriously saying "TakeMeToYourLeader"?
16th Apr '13 3:48:51 AM Austin
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Moving from YMMV.
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* IdiotBall: Everyone! None of the heroes try to exploit the Hulk's weaknesses such as gamma dampeners. Iron Man attacks him with the slower and always weaker Hulk-Buster armor, while Reed tries to reason with him. Yes, talk sense to UnstoppableRage. ** Darwin tries gamma absorption, Prof. X and Emma Frost try psychic attacks, Iron-Man tries neutralizing Hulk's healing factor, Doctor Strange tries to get through to the friendly (or so he mistakenly believes) Bruce Banner locked in Hulk's mind, Reed tries simulating the radiation that the Sentry gives off that calms (and thereby weakens) the Hulk. Hulk just {{No Sell}}s it.
2nd Apr '13 10:43:57 PM Eagal
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side is entirely free from blame, but neither is entirely in the right either. The Illuminati had done some shady things, but they weren't guilty of the crimes leveled against them by Hulk, who in turn may have had a good reason to be angry, but went about getting justice in a profoundly counterproductive manner that basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to the Illuminati being 100% pure evil. Though as the Hulk pointed out, they always ignore anything that doesn't point to him being a monster.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side is entirely free from blame, but neither is entirely in the right either. The Illuminati had done some shady things, and basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to Hulk being an uncontrollable monster, but they weren't guilty of the crimes leveled against them by Hulk, who in turn may have had a good reason to be angry, but went about getting justice in a profoundly counterproductive manner that [[NotSoDifferent basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to the Illuminati being 100% pure evil. Though as the Hulk pointed out, they always ignore anything that doesn't point to him being a monster. evil]].
2nd Apr '13 10:41:55 PM Eagal
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side is entirely free from blame, but neither is entirely in the right either. The Illuminati had done some shady things, but they weren't guilty of the crimes leveled against them by Hulk, who in turn may have had a good reason to be angry, but went about getting justice in a profoundly counterproductive manner that basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to the Illuminati being 100% pure evil. Though as the Hulk pointed out, they always ignore anything that doesn't point to him being a Monster.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Neither side is entirely free from blame, but neither is entirely in the right either. The Illuminati had done some shady things, but they weren't guilty of the crimes leveled against them by Hulk, who in turn may have had a good reason to be angry, but went about getting justice in a profoundly counterproductive manner that basically ignored any evidence that didn't point to the Illuminati being 100% pure evil. Though as the Hulk pointed out, they always ignore anything that doesn't point to him being a Monster.monster.
2nd Apr '13 10:36:48 PM Eagal
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* OptOut: The Ghost Rider originally shows up to stop Hulk, but (being the Spirit of Vengeance as he is) he sees that Hulk's vengeance is justified and rides away rather than defend the Illuminati.
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* OptOut: The Ghost Rider originally shows up to stop Hulk, but (being the Spirit of Vengeance as he is) he sees claims that Hulk's vengeance is justified and rides away rather than defend the Illuminati.
27th Mar '13 2:20:45 PM Dingbot
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* OptOut: The Ghost Rider originallly shows up to stop Hulk, but (being the Spirit of Vengeance as he is) he sees that Hulk's vengenace is justified and rides away rather than defend the Illuminati.
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* OptOut: The Ghost Rider originallly originally shows up to stop Hulk, but (being the Spirit of Vengeance as he is) he sees that Hulk's vengenace vengeance is justified and rides away rather than defend the Illuminati.
8th Mar '13 9:34:34 PM LoboGuara5bruxaria
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* CurbStompBattle: It's hard to describe what the Hulk did to the X-men in any other terms. Ghost Rider gets one in on Hulk during his tie-in to the story, more or less having a response to everything Hulk throws his way. Eventually he just drives off, figuring Hulk is actually in the ''right'' here, resulting in an ''[[OhCrap Oh CRAP]]'' moment for the Illuminati when Dr. Strange points this out to them.
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* CurbStompBattle: It's hard to describe what the Hulk did to the X-men in any other terms. Ghost Rider gets one in on Hulk during his tie-in to the story, more or less having a response to everything Hulk throws his way. Eventually he just drives off, figuring Hulk is actually in the ''right'' ''[[JerkassHasAPoint right]]'' here, resulting in an ''[[OhCrap Oh CRAP]]'' moment for the Illuminati when Dr. Strange points this out to them.
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