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26th Feb '17 3:58:33 PM Silverblade2
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* SoapOpera tend to avert this, due to their mult-generational nature and being on for decades. In fact, when a character shows up who appears to have no relatives, there will often be a revelation that he/she is in fact related to one or more of the other characters.
31st Jan '17 10:41:05 PM Pichu-kun
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** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents, Ahadi and Uru, but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim kill her off]], give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]], or have her in a NonSpeakingRole. Kiara's maternal grandmother Sarafina is also mysteriously absent from the film and series.

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** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents, Ahadi and Uru, but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim kill her off]], give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]], or have her in a NonSpeakingRole.non-speaking cameo. Kiara's maternal grandmother Sarafina is also mysteriously absent from the film and series.
31st Jan '17 10:39:04 PM Pichu-kun
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** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents, Ahadi and Uru, but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim kill her off]] or give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]].

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** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents, Ahadi and Uru, but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim kill her off]] or off]], give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]]. actress]], or have her in a NonSpeakingRole. Kiara's maternal grandmother Sarafina is also mysteriously absent from the film and series.



** Averted in ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. Moana not only has both her parents alive and active in her life but she has her paternal grandmother present too. [[spoiler:The film averts the usual traditional of [[ParentalAbandonment dying parents]] however Moana's grandmother does die]].

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** Averted in ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. Moana not only has both her parents alive and active in her life but she has her paternal grandmother present too. [[spoiler:The film averts the usual traditional of [[ParentalAbandonment dying parents]] parents]], however Moana's grandmother does die]].
22nd Dec '16 12:31:46 PM JoeMerl
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** In some interpretations God's punishment only extended to the men, so that grandmothers would have been around. Some Jewish legends imply that Moses' own mother Jochebed, or even Asher's daughter Serach entered the Land.
22nd Dec '16 12:29:23 PM JoeMerl
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** {{Averted}} in ''Disney/{{Mulan}},'' where the title character's grandmother lives with the family.
12th Dec '16 7:43:38 AM Silverblade2
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** Subverted in ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. Moana not only has both her parents alive and active in her life but she has her paternal grandmother present too. [[spoiler:The film subverts the usual traditional of [[ParentalAbandonment dying parents]] however Moana's grandmother does die]].

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** Subverted Averted in ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. Moana not only has both her parents alive and active in her life but she has her paternal grandmother present too. [[spoiler:The film subverts averts the usual traditional of [[ParentalAbandonment dying parents]] however Moana's grandmother does die]].
4th Dec '16 11:46:57 AM Pichu-kun
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** [[Franchise/{{Batman}}]] Bruce Wayne, orphaned at age 8. Despite being the heir of one of the oldest and most prominent families in Gotham (and possibly America), he is raised by his ''butler''. ''Possibly'' justified by the fact that Alfred was more or less considered family. In Golden and Silver Age comics, Bruce was raised by a relative, his uncle Philip Wayne; Alfred only raised him in modern comics.

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** [[Franchise/{{Batman}}]] Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne, orphaned at age 8. Despite being the heir of one of the oldest and most prominent families in Gotham (and possibly America), he is raised by his ''butler''. ''Possibly'' justified by the fact that Alfred was more or less considered family. In Golden and Silver Age comics, Bruce was raised by a relative, his uncle Philip Wayne; Alfred only raised him in modern comics.



*** For a time in the pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} days, Dick had his Aunt Harriet Cooper. She was later used in the TV show.

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*** For a time in the pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} days, Dick had his Aunt Harriet Cooper. She was later used in the [[Series/{{Batman}} TV show. show]].



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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime''. After Littlefoot's mother dies, his grandparents raise him from that point onwards. Although there is no mention of his paternal grandparents, or the grandparents of any of his friends. Littlefoot's father is shown to be part of a migratory herd of Longnecks (Apatosaur/Brachiosaur) so it's not impossible that the rest of his father's family is also constantly on the move.



* SoapOpera tend to aver this, due to their mult-generational nature and being on for decades. In fact, when a character shows up who appears to have no relatives, there will often be a revelation that he/she is in fact related to one or more of the other characters.

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* SoapOpera tend to aver avert this, due to their mult-generational nature and being on for decades. In fact, when a character shows up who appears to have no relatives, there will often be a revelation that he/she is in fact related to one or more of the other characters.



* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime''. After Littlefoot's mother dies, his grandparents raise him from that point onwards. Although there is no mention of his paternal grandparents, or the grandparents of any of his friends.
** Littlefoot's father is shown to be part of a migratory herd of Longnecks (Apatosaur/Brachiosaur) so it's not impossible that the rest of his father's family is also constantly on the move.



** On ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'', Static and Gear are both of an age where'd you'd expect their grandparents to still be around. But even in the episode [[spoiler:where Static teams up with Soul Power]] ''while working at a senior citizen home'', we never see them.

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** * On ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'', Static and Gear are both of an age where'd you'd expect their grandparents to still be around. But even in the episode [[spoiler:where Static teams up with Soul Power]] ''while working at a senior citizen home'', we never see them.



* Noticeably averted in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. Granny Smith (grandmother to Applejack and her siblings) is present in multiple episodes, and is even the focus of one. And Pinkie Pie has mentioned ''both'' of her grandmothers (Granny Pie and Nana Pinkie) as the sources of things she knows today.
** Come to think of it, the Apple siblings are a rare example of an inversion of this trope, as they've apparently been RaisedByGrandparents -or ''a'' grandparent anyway. WordOfGod eventually revealed that the Apple parents are deceased.

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* Noticeably averted in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. Granny Smith (grandmother to Applejack and her siblings) is present in multiple episodes, and is even the focus of one. And Pinkie Pie has mentioned ''both'' of her grandmothers (Granny Pie and Nana Pinkie) as the sources of things she knows today.
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today. Come to think of it, the Apple siblings are a rare example of an inversion of this trope, as they've apparently been RaisedByGrandparents -or ''a'' grandparent anyway. WordOfGod eventually revealed that the Apple parents are deceased.
4th Dec '16 11:39:53 AM Pichu-kun
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** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to kill her off or give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]].

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** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents parents, Ahadi and Uru, but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to [[TheCharacterDiedWithHim kill her off off]] or give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]].
4th Dec '16 11:33:49 AM Pichu-kun
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* After both of Franchise/{{Naruto}}'s parents die on the day of his birth, no one steps up to raise him. Not only is neither family ever mentioned, but [[spoiler:Jiraiya doesn't recall that he is Naruto's godfather until the moments before his death]]!There are minor characters RaisedByGrandparents, even when it is illogical or inconvenient, but this seems to be because of OnlyChildSyndrome. In some cases the lack more distant relations and even siblings can be explained by the fact that in the last two decades, Konoha has endured two major wars, a giant demon attacking it, two invasions, and several minor conflicts, including the genocide of an entire clan. Mass casualty events seem common enough that they put a major dent into the population. It's suggested that one reason nigh everybody in the village treated Naruto as though he were the Nine Tailed Fox was that everybody in the village knew someone who was killed in the attack.
** Naruto's mom Kushina is justified as the Uzumaki clan was nearly destroyed with the descandants scattered.

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* After both of Franchise/{{Naruto}}'s parents die on the day of his birth, no one steps up to raise him. Not only is neither family ever mentioned, but [[spoiler:Jiraiya doesn't recall that he is Naruto's godfather until the moments before his death]]!There are minor characters RaisedByGrandparents, even when it is illogical or inconvenient, but this seems to be because of OnlyChildSyndrome. In some cases the lack more distant relations and even siblings can be explained by the fact that in the last two decades, Konoha has endured two major wars, a giant demon attacking it, two invasions, and several minor conflicts, including the genocide of an entire clan. Mass casualty events seem common enough that they put a major dent into the population. It's suggested that one reason nigh everybody in the village treated Naruto as though he were the Nine Tailed Fox was that everybody in the village knew someone who was killed in the attack.
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attack. Naruto's mom Kushina [[spoiler:Kushina]] is justified as the [[spoiler:the Uzumaki clan was nearly destroyed with the descandants scattered. scattered.]]


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* Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon films usually involve no grandparents. Often times this is because the original stories had no grandparents either though sometimes grandparent characters are AdaptedOut (for example, ''Literature/TheLittleMermaid'' had the little mermaid's grandmother as an important character but she never appears in the [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Disney adaptation]]). Exceptions and variations include:
** Semi-canon supplementary ''Disney/TheLionKing'' materials introduced Mufasa and Scar's parents but come the time of the film and neither are present. Prides seem to work more like human monarchy's than realistic lion prides, so it's implied they're deceased. This extends to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' (and subsequently ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'') as Sarabi is mysteriously not present in the film, however this was due to her voice actress dying and the writers not wanting to kill her off or give her [[TheOtherDarrin a new actress]].
** Subverted in ''Disney/{{Moana}}''. Moana not only has both her parents alive and active in her life but she has her paternal grandmother present too. [[spoiler:The film subverts the usual traditional of [[ParentalAbandonment dying parents]] however Moana's grandmother does die]].
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1st Sep '16 2:25:28 PM Underachiever
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* Somewhat poignantly averted in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' -- the protagonist may have [[ParentalAbandonment become an orphan at entirely too young an age]], but eventually discovers that he does have a genuinely BadassGrandpa.
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