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26th Sep '17 4:41:29 AM Baeraad555
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* Verbal spell components spoken by {{Muggles}} have no effect in ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''.

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* Common in the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'', where performing magic almost always requires you to either be an inherently supernatural being or to had such a being bestow some of its power on you.
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Verbal spell components spoken by {{Muggles}} have no effect in ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''.''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''.
** ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' explicitly notes that even though demons' evocations are performed by speaking special words of power encoded in the Lores, just repeating those words by rote isn't enough to perform an evocation - you need to have a deep spiritual understanding of what they mean, to the point where the knowledge shapes your very nature. Humans also can't perform evocations at all, though they can be given similar abilities by making a [[DealWithTheDevil pact with a demon.]]
10th Aug '17 5:27:56 PM dasuberkaiser
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* Mentl in ''Webcomic/TheChallengesOfZona'', when he arrives in Erogenia, begins to learn about his own innate magical abilities, which are tied to his abilities as a musician. As a result, he is able to use [[ThePowerOfRock lyrics to his favorite rock-and-roll songs]] as powerful spells; he once incinerated an attacker by singing "Great Balls of Fire" by Jerry Lee Lewis, and a counterpart of his from the future incorporated the lyrics to [[Music/TheBeatles "Get Back"]] as a time-travel spell.
* Played with in ''[[{{Webcomic/Morphe}} morphE]]''. All of the spells in the series are standard and can be taught or read about in books. However casting is tied closely to how the mage views reality and magic. Tyler can only cast by comparing what he is doing to fictional precedent. Billy can only cast by exerting his will over reality. Curio "codes" his spells using a mentality of adjusting the attributes and statistics of the world around him. Despite this, they are all learning the same school of magic. Tyler and Amical even use the exact same spells, though Tyler does not need to physically touch people like Amical does.
* Parodied in [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3#comic this]] ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' comic.
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* Mentl in ''Webcomic/TheChallengesOfZona'', when he arrives in Erogenia, begins to learn about his own innate magical abilities, which are tied to his abilities as a musician. As a result, he is able to use [[ThePowerOfRock lyrics to his favorite rock-and-roll songs]] as powerful spells; he once incinerated an attacker by singing "Great Balls of Fire" by Jerry Lee Lewis, and a counterpart of his from the future incorporated the lyrics to [[Music/TheBeatles "Get Back"]] as a time-travel spell.
* Played with in ''[[{{Webcomic/Morphe}} morphE]]''. All of the spells in the series are standard and can be taught or read about in books. However casting is tied closely to how the mage views reality and magic. Tyler can only cast by comparing what he is doing to fictional precedent. Billy can only cast by exerting his will over reality. Curio "codes" his spells using a mentality of adjusting the attributes and statistics of the world around him. Despite this, they are all learning the same school of magic. Tyler and Amical even use the exact same spells, though Tyler does not need to physically touch people like Amical does.
* Parodied in [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3#comic this]] ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' comic.
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20th Apr '17 2:02:31 PM nighttrainfm
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* Demonstrated in ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' when Prodigy (a former mutant whose power was to absorb knowledge from people around him) fakes out an extra-dimensional monster with a magic phrase and hand sign. He explains to Hukling that knowing magic words doesn't give him the temperament to actually cast spells.
19th Apr '17 2:02:00 PM MarsJenkar
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* ''VideoGame/{{Myst}}'': Gehn believes that this is the case, thinking that only those with D'ni blood can use The Art. The people of Terahnee believe the same thing, that Ahrotahntee (book-worlders, people native to an age) cannot use the Art. They're wrong; it's proven time and again that what matters are the books, ink, and words used, not the nature of the person writing them. Indeed for Gehn, it's something he should have known, since his mother was a full-blooded Ahrotahntee (native to Earth in fact) and she was perfectly capable of the art. Then again, cognitive dissonance is pretty much Gehn's stock in trade.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Myst}}'': Gehn believes that this is the case, thinking that only those with D'ni blood can use The Art. The people of Terahnee believe the same thing, that Ahrotahntee (book-worlders, people native to an age) cannot use the Art. They're wrong; it's proven time and again that what matters are the books, ink, and words used, not the nature of the person writing them. Indeed for Gehn, it's something he should have known, since his mother was a full-blooded Ahrotahntee (native to Earth in fact) and she was perfectly capable of the art. Art. Then again, cognitive dissonance is pretty much Gehn's stock in trade.trade.
** With Gehn, it's also a literal case. Gehn tries to treat the Art as a science, and tries to use "formulae" of specific words, and delete "unnecessary" ones from the Ages that he links to in his writing (in order to save his ink). Unfortunately for Gehn, deleting "unnecessary" words tends to make his Ages dangerously unstable. His son Atrus understands the Art far better, and is able to not only produce stable Ages as a result, but can even use his writing to slow the decay of unstable Ages like Riven.
16th Mar '17 7:32:33 AM Couran
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** The reason Wizards use dead languages and nonsense words for their spells is that the incantation becomes linked with the spell in their mind, so if they use a word from a language they speak regularly, they could burn their house down whenever they say "fire."

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** The reason Wizards use dead languages and nonsense words for their spells is that the incantation becomes linked with the spell in their mind, so if they use a word from a language they speak regularly, due to the mental equivelant of muscle memory they could burn their house down whenever they say "fire."
11th Jan '17 6:39:42 AM Rhodes7
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* ''Comicbook/TheTombOfDracula'' establishes early and often that just waving a cross or other holy symbol at Dracula doesn't help, you have to really [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve believe]] to ward him off that way.
7th Dec '16 12:35:31 PM intastiel
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* In ''Literature/TheBelgariad'', sorcery is powered and directed by the sorcerer's will: the spoken "spell" that causes the effects to manifest can be anything. TheArchmage Belgarath uses mystical-sounding triggers and once scolds Garion as unprofessional for directing his sorcery with silly words like "Push!"
29th Oct '16 6:24:15 PM nombretomado
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* In HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality, Harry assumes this is the case:

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* In HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality, ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry assumes this is the case:
10th Oct '16 3:59:55 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* The Thu'um in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim''. It is possible for ordinary mortals to learn it, though it takes a lifetime of training and effort to master it. Anyone without that training would not be able to make the Shouts do anything. The Dragonborn can take shortcuts because he/she has the soul of a Dragon, and even the Dragonborn has to study the words of power and absorb the souls of other Dragons first.

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* The Thu'um in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim''. It is possible for ordinary mortals to learn it, though it takes a lifetime of training and effort to master it. Anyone without that training would not be able to make the Shouts do anything. The Dragonborn can take shortcuts because he/she has the soul of a Dragon, and even the Dragonborn has to study the words of power and absorb the souls of other Dragons first. Ulfric Stormcloak himself was taught by the Greybeards to learn the ways of the Thu'um but used what he knew (the Unrelenting Force shout) to assert himself as the "true" High King of Skyrim and reestablish Skyrim as independent from Imperial puppet kings. The thing about Dragon Shouts is you have to understand deeply on what they mean, not just the translation but the real very essence of the word.
28th Sep '16 10:40:42 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* In ''Literature/{{Ra}}'', it's not enough to speak a spell. The mage must think through and understand it as well. #

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* In ''Literature/{{Ra}}'', it's not enough to speak a spell. The mage must think through and understand it as well. #
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