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26th Jan '16 5:57:01 PM Darekun
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* Verbal spell components spoken by {{Muggles}} have no effect in ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}''.

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* Verbal spell components spoken by {{Muggles}} have no effect in ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}''.''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension''.


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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', magic words ''normally'' just make it easier for the magician to focus their mind; thus the words are personal, they often skip the words when they aren't stressed or otherwise distracted. However, in a sort of [[DoubleSubversion double]] [[AvertedTrope aversion]], their magic can '''break''' in such a way that the words are required… but the requirement is for the same "whatever you made up" words as before.
28th Dec '15 11:06:09 AM Anddrix
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* In the "Irredeemable" StoryArc in ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', DoctorDoom defeats the Four using [[TheMagicVersusTechnologyWar magic]] (and a DealWithTheDevil). He even [[LockingMacGyverInTheStoreCupboard locks Richards in his own spellbook library]], [[EvilGloating secure in the knowledge that Mr. Fantastic cannot manage even the apprentice-level spell that would unlock the door]]. And he's right. Comicbook/DoctorStrange has to show Reed that magic requires admitting something about the self and one's relationship to higher powers, not just saying the right words.

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* In the "Irredeemable" StoryArc in ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', DoctorDoom Doctor Doom defeats the Four using [[TheMagicVersusTechnologyWar magic]] (and a DealWithTheDevil). He even [[LockingMacGyverInTheStoreCupboard locks Richards in his own spellbook library]], [[EvilGloating secure in the knowledge that Mr. Fantastic cannot manage even the apprentice-level spell that would unlock the door]]. And he's right. Comicbook/DoctorStrange has to show Reed that magic requires admitting something about the self and one's relationship to higher powers, not just saying the right words.
11th Nov '15 5:12:07 PM nombretomado
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* In the second ''RiversOfLondon'' book, Lindsey tries to copy one of Peter's spells, and he explains to her that you can't just say the words, you need intense practice and an innate ability. [[spoiler: Which she does.]]

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* In the second ''RiversOfLondon'' ''Literature/RiversOfLondon'' book, Lindsey tries to copy one of Peter's spells, and he explains to her that you can't just say the words, you need intense practice and an innate ability. [[spoiler: Which she does.]]
15th Oct '15 9:07:28 AM Divra
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** Harry at one point in ''Fool Moon'' uses a completely non-verbal spell, but isn't able to do much more than the minimum necessary to not die at the moment (something big and nasty had its hands around his neck), and he nearly died from the after-effects of the spell anyway.
4th Sep '15 8:34:35 AM Korval
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* ''VideoGame/{{Myst}}'': Gehn tries to use the D'ni art of writing linking books without really understanding the full effects of the phrases that he uses to write them, resulting in links to unstable worlds. This causes the conflict in the novel ''Myst: The Book of Atrus'' as well as the game ''VideoGame/{{Riven}}'': in the latter, it is the threat looming over the player's rescue attempt of Catherine.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Myst}}'': Gehn tries to use believes that this is the case, thinking that only those with D'ni art blood can use The Art. The people of Terahnee believe the same thing, that Ahrotahntee (book-worlders, people native to an age) cannot use the Art. They're wrong; it's proven time and again that what matters are the books, ink, and words used, not the nature of the person writing linking books without really understanding the full effects them. Indeed for Gehn, it's something he should have known, since his mother was a full-blooded Ahrotahntee (native to Earth in fact) and she was perfectly capable of the phrases that he uses to write them, resulting art. Then again, cognitive dissonance is pretty much Gehn's stock in links to unstable worlds. This causes the conflict in the novel ''Myst: The Book of Atrus'' as well as the game ''VideoGame/{{Riven}}'': in the latter, it is the threat looming over the player's rescue attempt of Catherine.trade.
4th Aug '15 5:17:42 PM Adept
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** In another episode, [[BaldOfAwesome Captain Black]] once read Uncle's books and in trying to perform a spell turned himself into a [[FrogsAndToads frog]].

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** In another episode, [[BaldOfAwesome Captain Black]] once read Uncle's books and in trying to perform a spell turned himself into a [[FrogsAndToads frog]].frog.
18th Jun '15 11:33:39 AM Prfnoff
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->'''Jade''': I know your magic words! [Starts chanting] [Nothing happens]
->'''[[AncientConspiracy Magisters]]''': Hahahahahahaha!
->'''Jade''': Come on already!
->'''Magisters''': Yon twain knoweth nothing about our magicks.
->'''Jackie''': That's what I've been trying to tell you!
--> -- ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'', "The Chan Who Knew Too Much"

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->'''Jade''': I know your magic words! [Starts chanting] [Nothing happens]
->'''[[AncientConspiracy
happens]\\
'''[[AncientConspiracy
Magisters]]''': Hahahahahahaha!
->'''Jade''':
Hahahahahahaha!\\
'''Jade''':
Come on already!
->'''Magisters''':
already!\\
'''Magisters''':
Yon twain knoweth nothing about our magicks.
->'''Jackie''':
magicks.\\
'''Jackie''':
That's what I've been trying to tell you!
--> -- -->-- ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'', "The Chan Who Knew Too Much"



* This [[IceCreamKoan koan]] from the JargonFile:

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* This [[IceCreamKoan koan]] {{koan}} from the JargonFile:



* Mentl in ''TheChallengesOfZona'', when he arrives in Erogenia, begins to learn about his own innate magical abilities, which are tied to his abilities as a musician. As a result, he is able to use [[ThePowerOfRock lyrics to his favorite rock-and-roll songs]] as powerful spells; he once incinerated an attacker by singing "Great Balls of Fire" by Jerry Lee Lewis, and a counterpart of his from the future incorporated the lyrics to [[Music/TheBeatles "Get Back"]] as a time-travel spell.

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* Mentl in ''TheChallengesOfZona'', ''Webcomic/TheChallengesOfZona'', when he arrives in Erogenia, begins to learn about his own innate magical abilities, which are tied to his abilities as a musician. As a result, he is able to use [[ThePowerOfRock lyrics to his favorite rock-and-roll songs]] as powerful spells; he once incinerated an attacker by singing "Great Balls of Fire" by Jerry Lee Lewis, and a counterpart of his from the future incorporated the lyrics to [[Music/TheBeatles "Get Back"]] as a time-travel spell.
16th Jun '15 11:48:32 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* ''Film/BedknobsAndBroomsticks'', the [[ConArtist man]] who [[AchievementsInIgnorance invented the spells from what he thought was a nonsense book]] could not use them, but [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Angela]] [[NannyMcPhee Lans]][[MurderSheWrote bury's]] character, Miss Eglantine Price, could because she actually believed in magic. It took a great deal of concentration before he could finally get one to work after being shown numerous times that magic existed.

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* ''Film/BedknobsAndBroomsticks'', the [[ConArtist man]] who [[AchievementsInIgnorance invented the spells from what he thought was a nonsense book]] could not use them, but [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Angela]] [[NannyMcPhee [[Film/NannyMcPhee Lans]][[MurderSheWrote bury's]] character, Miss Eglantine Price, could because she actually believed in magic. It took a great deal of concentration before he could finally get one to work after being shown numerous times that magic existed.
4th Jun '15 4:20:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode "The Curious Case Of Dean Winchester", the Winchesters run into an Irish warlock called Patrick who takes years from people's lifes with a deck of enchanted magic cards, and uses it to [[LifeDrinker extend his own life indefinately]] [[spoiler:and that of his lover.]] When Dean loses 50 years in a gamble, he tries to reverse the process by breaking into Patrick's safe and stealing the cards. The warlock interrupts them and tells them not to bother.

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* In the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' episode "The "[[Recap/SupernaturalS05E07TheCuriousCaseOfDeanWinchester The Curious Case Of Dean Winchester", Winchester]]", the Winchesters run into an Irish warlock called Patrick who takes years from people's lifes lives with a deck of enchanted magic cards, and uses it to [[LifeDrinker extend his own life indefinately]] [[spoiler:and that of his lover.]] When Dean loses 50 years in a gamble, he tries to reverse the process by breaking into Patrick's safe and stealing the cards. The warlock interrupts them and tells them not to bother.
2nd May '15 9:55:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/FrightNight''

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* ''Film/FrightNight''''Film/FrightNight1985'': After one of the heroes tries to use a crucifix against the vampire [[NoSell to no effect]], he learns that it's more difficult than that.
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