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21st Dec '16 11:34:44 AM Xtifr
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* Discussed but not actually seen in ''Of Men and Monsters'' by Creator/WilliamTenn. The protagonist, who is just coming of age himself, wonders what the girl he's attracted to will learn when she becomes an initiate of the the Female Society of his tribe, but knows he'll never be allowed to find out.
21st Dec '16 11:21:44 AM Xtifr
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* In ''[[Literature/ChroniclesofPrydain The High King]]'' this trope is invoked a couple of times on Eilonwy's behalf, notably at the end when [[spoiler:Eilonwy must lose her magic powers so that she can stay in Prydain with Taran. When she wishes them away,]] Dallben comments that she "will have that mystery and magic all women share, and that Taran, like all men, shall often be baffled by it."

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* In ''[[Literature/ChroniclesofPrydain ''[[Literature/TheChroniclesofPrydain The High King]]'' this trope is invoked a couple of times on Eilonwy's behalf, notably at the end when [[spoiler:Eilonwy must lose her magic powers so that she can stay in Prydain with Taran. When she wishes them away,]] Dallben comments that she "will have that mystery and magic all women share, and that Taran, like all men, shall often be baffled by it."
20th Sep '16 7:36:36 PM PaulA
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* Creator/JackChalker's ''Soul Rider'' series:

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* Creator/JackChalker's ''Soul Rider'' ''Literature/SoulRider'' series:
19th Sep '16 1:24:52 AM PaulA
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* In contrast to the ''Tom Strong'' example in the Comic Book section above, in Creator/JackChalker's ''Soul Rider'' series a teenage boy is punished for spying on Women's Mysteries with "honorary woman" status ''for life'' through CripplingCastration followed by an involuntary GenderBender. [[FreudianExcuse Hilarity definitely does ''not'' ensue.]]

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* In contrast to the ''Tom Strong'' example in the Comic Book section above, in Creator/JackChalker's ''Soul Rider'' series a series:
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teenage boy is punished for spying on Women's Mysteries with "honorary woman" status ''for life'' through CripplingCastration followed by an involuntary GenderBender. [[FreudianExcuse Hilarity definitely does ''not'' ensue.]]
1st Aug '16 6:16:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* Inverted with the secret book of sex tips from ''AmericanPie'', passed down from brother to brother.
* Some teenage males, upon seeing ''{{Flashdance}}'' back in the 80s, were '''astounded''' by the fact that the heroine could take off her bra while still wearing a baggy sleeveless sweatshirt. Yes, guys, it's doable, although it's not recommended as it weakens the shoulder straps' elastic. In fact it can even be done while wearing a fitted, long sleeved shirt - but that is even worse for the elastic.
* The book and film ''HarvestHome'' (a variant where by the end EVERYONE knows what the mysteries are, though they are things man is not meant to SEE. Or talk about). This is an example where they are revealed to the audience.

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* Inverted with the secret book of sex tips from ''AmericanPie'', ''Film/AmericanPie'', passed down from brother to brother.
* Some teenage males, upon seeing ''{{Flashdance}}'' ''Film/{{Flashdance}}'' back in the 80s, were '''astounded''' by the fact that the heroine could take off her bra while still wearing a baggy sleeveless sweatshirt. Yes, guys, it's doable, although it's not recommended as it weakens the shoulder straps' elastic. In fact it can even be done while wearing a fitted, long sleeved shirt - but that is even worse for the elastic.
* The book and film ''HarvestHome'' ''Film/HarvestHome'' (a variant where by the end EVERYONE knows what the mysteries are, though they are things man is not meant to SEE. Or talk about). This is an example where they are revealed to the audience.



* The movie ''TheRedTent'' lives on this trope. Set in Old Testament days, the movie focuses on significant Biblical events, as told from the women's perspective. The aforementioned Red Tent is where women go when they have their period and they perform sacred fertility rituals to the pagan goddess Inana (which is strictly forbidden by the Old Testament men).

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* The movie ''TheRedTent'' ''Film/TheRedTent'' lives on this trope. Set in Old Testament days, the movie focuses on significant Biblical events, as told from the women's perspective. The aforementioned Red Tent is where women go when they have their period and they perform sacred fertility rituals to the pagan goddess Inana (which is strictly forbidden by the Old Testament men).
31st May '16 6:10:26 PM TheBigBopper
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* Some teenage males, upon seeing ''{{Flashdance}}'' back in the 80s, were '''astounded''' by the fact that the heroine could take off her bra while still wearing a baggy sleeveless sweatshirt. Yes, guys, it's doable, although it's not recommended as it weakens the shoulder straps' elastic.
** In fact it can be done while wearing a fitted, long sleeved shirt - but that is ''really'' bad for the elastic.

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* Some teenage males, upon seeing ''{{Flashdance}}'' back in the 80s, were '''astounded''' by the fact that the heroine could take off her bra while still wearing a baggy sleeveless sweatshirt. Yes, guys, it's doable, although it's not recommended as it weakens the shoulder straps' elastic.
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elastic. In fact it can even be done while wearing a fitted, long sleeved shirt - but that is ''really'' bad even worse for the elastic.
31st May '16 6:07:55 PM TheBigBopper
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Gesserit Bene Gesserit]] in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series are composed of only females, as all the males die in the initiation; their existence is dedicated to producing a male who can do the stuff women can do. BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor.
** And, yes, the Bene Gesserit harbor ''tons'' of mysteries. Some of which are tantamount to secret superpowers.
** There's also the Fish Speakers of ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune'' which share secret rituals with their GodEmperor that only women (and Duncan Idaho) can participate in. Also repeated again in the Honored Matres of ''[[Literature/HereticsOfDune Heretics]]'' and ''Literature/ChapterhouseDune''
** The point behind the breeding program is that the Kwisatz Haderach can do what the Bene Gesserits ''can't'': access all of his GeneticMemory. Reverend Mothers only have access to the maternal line.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Gesserit Bene Gesserit]] in the ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series are composed of only females, as all the males die in the initiation; their existence initiation, and harbor ''tons'' of mysteries, some of which are tantamount to secret superpowers. Their breeding program is dedicated to producing a male male, the Kwisatz Haderach, who can do all the stuff women can do.do, plus what the Bene Gesserits ''can't'': access all of his GeneticMemory, since Reverend Mothers only have access to the maternal line. BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor.
** And, yes, the Bene Gesserit harbor ''tons'' of mysteries. Some of which are tantamount to secret superpowers.
** There's also the Fish Speakers of ''Literature/GodEmperorOfDune'' which share secret rituals with their GodEmperor that only women (and Duncan Idaho) can participate in. Also repeated again in the Honored Matres of ''[[Literature/HereticsOfDune Heretics]]'' and ''Literature/ChapterhouseDune''
** The point behind the breeding program is that the Kwisatz Haderach can do what the Bene Gesserits ''can't'': access all of his GeneticMemory. Reverend Mothers only have access to the maternal line.
''Literature/ChapterhouseDune''.
16th Mar '16 10:56:48 PM MiriOhki
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* PlayedWith, parodied, played straight and mocked frequently in ''[[Webcomic/MisFile Misfile]]'', where [[GenderBender Ash]] is forced to learn things he never thought he didn't want to know about his new form. [[http://www.misfile.com/?date=2016-03-16 Finding out about]] [[VictoriasSecretCompartment 'bra pockets']] after an argument about women's clothing not having enough pockets is one of the mildest examples.
13th Mar '16 6:39:12 PM Eievie
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Very rarely gender reversed - or, rather, male versions (involving [[ManlyMenCanHunt hunting]] and [[ARealManIsAKiller warfare]], [[GroinAttack circumcision]] or any other traditional male RiteOfPassage, etc.) are treated very differently. The most notable difference is that Women's Mysteries almost always remain mysterious to the audience. This DoubleStandard probably results from their being mysterious to the author as well since MostWritersAreMale. Related to the idea (apparently held by many men) that women are [[MysteriousWoman somehow inherently mysterious]]. Also, secret societies with exclusively ''male'' initiates tend to be treated as a BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats, while the female version is much, much less likely to receive this treatment.

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Very rarely gender reversed - or, reversed--or, rather, male versions (involving [[ManlyMenCanHunt hunting]] and [[ARealManIsAKiller warfare]], [[GroinAttack circumcision]] or any other traditional male RiteOfPassage, etc.) are treated very differently. The most notable difference is that Women's Mysteries almost always remain mysterious to the audience. This DoubleStandard probably results from their being mysterious to the author as well since MostWritersAreMale. Related to the idea (apparently held by many men) that women are [[MysteriousWoman somehow inherently mysterious]]. Also, secret societies with exclusively ''male'' initiates tend to be treated as a BrotherhoodOfFunnyHats, while the female version is much, much less likely to receive this treatment.
6th Mar '16 4:26:13 AM captainpat
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* Inverted in ''Film/LiarLiar'' when the main character uses men's mysteries, [[AssPull making up]] a link between delaying urination breaks and prostate issues to get the judge to worry about his own need for a bathroom break and declare a court recess.

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* Inverted in ''Film/LiarLiar'' when the main character uses men's mysteries, [[AssPull making up]] up a link between delaying urination breaks and prostate issues to get the judge to worry about his own need for a bathroom break and declare a court recess.
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