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10th Dec '17 7:00:11 AM TinyTedDanson
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10th Dec '17 6:59:19 AM TinyTedDanson
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->''"Strange feminine secrets."''
-->-- '''Michael''', ''Film/PicnicAtHangingRock''

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->''"Strange feminine secrets."''
->''"This is also from a time when women had [='=]women's things.[='=] You would go to some social gathering, a woman wasn't there. You'd inquire after her, [='=]Where is Jeanie?[='=], and be told [='=]Oh Jeanie? She has women's things.[='=] and you '''respected''' that! Nobody knew what they were, she could be squiring jam into envelopes, polishing an onion with her feet, it was none of your '''fucking''' business! Knitting a ceiling-cosy? Let her get on with it!"''
-->-- '''Michael''', ''Film/PicnicAtHangingRock''
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9th Nov '17 4:40:04 PM WillKeaton
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* There's a semi-example the ''Series/DoctorWho'' ''Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures'' novel ''The Adventuress of Henrietta Street'': [[TrueCompanions our intrepid heroes]] are [[ThisBedOfRoses staying in a brothel]], where there's a lot of general tantric-sex feminine-mysteries type stuff going on. Business at the brothel shuts down once a month because somehow all the women and girls who live there are on the exact same menstrual cycle, so they take that week off to drink hot cocoa and avoid staining the sheets. The Doctor's companion Anji (female) somehow hops onto the same cycle they're all on with biologically improbable alacrity, but prefers not to socialize as much; fellow companion Fitz (male) hangs out while they're doing ghost stories around the fire. Well, he's a pretty [[NiceGuy chill dude]][[note]]thirteen-year-old prostitute-in-training Juliette describes him as "very sweet" in her diary[[/note]]; you'd probably invite him to your period party too, if you felt like doing a thing like ''that''.

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* There's a semi-example the ''Series/DoctorWho'' ''Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures'' novel ''The Adventuress of Henrietta Street'': [[TrueCompanions our intrepid heroes]] are [[ThisBedOfRoses staying in a brothel]], where there's a lot of general tantric-sex feminine-mysteries type stuff going on. Business at the brothel shuts down once a month because somehow all the women and girls who live there are on the exact same menstrual cycle, so they take that week off to drink hot cocoa and avoid staining the sheets. The Doctor's companion Anji (female) somehow hops onto the same cycle they're all on with biologically improbable alacrity, but prefers not to socialize as much; fellow companion Fitz (male) hangs out while they're doing ghost stories around the fire. Well, he's a pretty [[NiceGuy chill dude]][[note]]thirteen-year-old dude]];[[note]]thirteen-year-old prostitute-in-training Juliette describes him as "very sweet" in her diary[[/note]]; diary[[/note]] you'd probably invite him to your period party too, if you felt like doing a thing like ''that''.



** And [[http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1034 man-code]].

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** And [[http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1034 man-code]].man-code.]]



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Clodius_Pulcher#Bona_Dea_scandal_and_trial_for_incestus Publius Clodius]], an ancestor of [[Series/IClaudius Claudius]] and [[TheCaligula Caligula]] became notorious for dressing up as a woman and sneaking into the Festival of the Great Goddess.

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* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Clodius_Pulcher#Bona_Dea_scandal_and_trial_for_incestus Publius Clodius]], Clodius,]] an ancestor of [[Series/IClaudius Claudius]] and [[TheCaligula Caligula]] became notorious for dressing up as a woman and sneaking into the Festival of the Great Goddess.



* Inversion: In the Olympic Games of Ancient Greece, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Olympic_Games#Events married]] [[http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/olympics/p/olympicgames.htm women]] [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Olympics/faq5.html were not allowed]] to be in the audience, much less participate in any way. May have had something to do with the fact that male athletes competed naked. There was an actual law stating that the penalty for any woman attending was the death sentence, though they never had to enforce it because it deterred the women from coming. However, one year a woman snuck in by cross-dressing and passed herself off as one of the athlete's coaches. When the ruse was revealed, there was a great commotion about what to do, given that they'd never actually killed a woman just for coming to the Olympics before and were uneasy about making this the first (especially given her highborn status). The solution they ultimately settled upon was to give the woman who had snuck in a one-time pardon, since she was also the young champion's mother... [[ObviousRulePatch while at the same time]] [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Olympics/faq5.html declaring a new law, that from now on all coaches, as well as athletes, would have to enter the arena naked]]...

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* Inversion: In the Olympic Games of Ancient Greece, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Olympic_Games#Events married]] [[http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/olympics/p/olympicgames.htm women]] [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Olympics/faq5.html were not allowed]] to be in the audience, much less participate in any way. May have had something to do with the fact that male athletes competed naked. There was an actual law stating that the penalty for any woman attending was the death sentence, though they never had to enforce it because it deterred the women from coming. However, one year a woman snuck in by cross-dressing and passed herself off as one of the athlete's coaches. When the ruse was revealed, there was a great commotion about what to do, given that they'd never actually killed a woman just for coming to the Olympics before and were uneasy about making this the first (especially given her highborn status). The solution they ultimately settled upon was to give the woman who had snuck in a one-time pardon, since she was also the young champion's mother... [[ObviousRulePatch while at the same time]] [[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Olympics/faq5.html declaring a new law, that from now on all coaches, as well as athletes, would have to enter the arena naked]]...naked...]]
18th Sep '17 8:47:52 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* In Norse tradition, prophetic magic (''seiðr'') was considered female territory, presided over by the goddess Freyja (while rune magic was considered male territory, presided over by the god Odin[[note]]In [[Myth/NorseMythology the myths]], Odin actually mastered both schools of magic; he learned ''seiðr'' through [[DisguisedInDrag obvious means]].[[/note]]). Although male practitioners (''seiðmenn'') existed and were solicited for services, they were generally considered outcasts. According to Norse beliefs, a "[[NoTrueScotsman real man]]" would confront his enemy face to face, using strength instead of ''seiðr'' (although rune magic was still okay).

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* In Norse tradition, prophetic magic (''seiðr'') was considered female territory, presided over by associated with sexual submissiveness and the goddess Freyja (while Freyja. (In contrast, rune magic was considered male territory, presided over by the god Odin[[note]]In Odin. In [[Myth/NorseMythology the myths]], though, Odin actually mastered both schools of magic; he learned ''seiðr'' through [[DisguisedInDrag obvious means]].[[/note]]). ) Although male practitioners (''seiðmenn'') existed and were solicited for services, they were generally considered outcasts. According to Norse beliefs, a "[[NoTrueScotsman real man]]" would confront his enemy face to face, using strength instead of ''seiðr'' (although rune magic was still okay).
16th Jun '17 9:42:52 AM Discar
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* In the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode [[Recap/CommunityS2E08CooperativeCalligraphy Cooperative Calligraphy]] this is the response of the women after finding [[ItMakesSenseInContext Abed's charts of their menstrual cycles]].
-->'''Britta:''' Are you charting our ''menstrual cycles''?
-->'''Annie:''' ''What?!'' Gross!
-->'''Shirley:''' Abed, this is so personal. And so accurate.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': In the ''Series/{{Community}}'' episode [[Recap/CommunityS2E08CooperativeCalligraphy Cooperative Calligraphy]] this is the response of the women after finding [[ItMakesSenseInContext Abed's charts of their menstrual cycles]].
cycles. He had noticed that the girls were slightly angrier on certain days, so he started keeping track in order to know to be more careful around them on those days. By the time he realized what he was doing, it had such a positive effect that he didn't think it was a good idea to stop.
-->'''Britta:''' Are you charting our ''menstrual cycles''?
-->'''Annie:'''
cycles''?\\
'''Annie:'''
''What?!'' Gross!
-->'''Shirley:'''
Gross!\\
'''Shirley''':
Abed, this is so personal. personal! And so accurate.''accurate''.\\
'''Pierce:''' Abed just became ''my'' hero.\\
'''Annie:''' ''[tearing up]'' Abed, this is so creepy.\\
'''Abed:''' ''[handing her a tissue and chocolate]'' Chocolate?\\
'''Annie:''' Thank y-- ''[aghast]'' GET AWAY FROM ME!
1st Jun '17 7:29:50 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' series, the very nature of magic is split into separate male and female halves, saidar and saidin, making every female channeler's weave (i.e. spell she casts) a complete, utter mystery to men, and vice versa.
** In addition, the Aiel (a ProudWarriorRace) have female-specific societies such as Maidens of the Spear, who never even allow men into their tents, except for [[spoiler:the Dragon Reborn]]. Any man who needs to relay a message must do so to a woman who will pass the message along.

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* In the ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' series, the ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' series:
** The
very nature of magic is split into separate male and female halves, saidar and saidin, making every female channeler's weave (i.e. spell she casts) a complete, utter mystery to men, and vice versa.
** In addition, the The Aiel (a ProudWarriorRace) have female-specific societies such as Maidens of the Spear, who never even allow men into their tents, except for [[spoiler:the Dragon Reborn]]. Any man who needs to relay a message must do so to a woman who will pass the message along.
21st May '17 1:41:26 PM Kate
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** for example in the episode ''Marjorine'', [[ButtMonkey Butters]] is dressed up as girl so he can infiltrate a girl's slumber party to steal a [[MacGuffin Secret future-predicting Artifact]]
** in ''The List'' Eric gets drawn into the twisted consipiracies of girls' afterschool list-making committees, it involves [[spoiler: shoes]].

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** for example in the episode ''Marjorine'', [[ButtMonkey Butters]] is dressed up as girl so he can infiltrate a girl's slumber party to steal a [[MacGuffin Secret future-predicting Artifact]]
Artifact]] (meaning the paper and felt pen 'fortune tellers' elementary school girls love).
** in ''The List'' Eric gets drawn into the twisted consipiracies conspiracies of girls' afterschool list-making committees, it involves [[spoiler: shoes]].
14th May '17 5:19:12 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Traveller}}'' the Kenningsboken is a partial example. It is a book few Sword Worlder males read all the way through and while it contains lore on child care and farm management it is rumored to be a psionic exercise manual.

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* In ''{{Traveller}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'' the Kenningsboken is a partial example. It is a book few Sword Worlder males read all the way through and while it contains lore on child care and farm management it is rumored to be a psionic exercise manual.
24th Apr '17 12:07:05 AM angie710
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In RealLife cultures, this sort of thing is mostly just details about female biology (pregnancy, childbirth, birth control, menstruation, etc.) that men [[TooMuchInformation simply don't need (or want) to know]] and women don't care to discuss in mixed company. But it's a rare work of epic fantasy that's willing to admit its "Women's Mysteries" are little more than a FantasyCounterpartCulture equivalent of that special sixth grade health class for girls.

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In RealLife cultures, this sort of thing is mostly just details about female biology (pregnancy, childbirth, birth control, menstruation, etc.) that men [[TooMuchInformation simply don't need (or want) to know]] and women don't care to discuss in mixed company. (Occasionally, it ''does'' include a RiteOfPassage, which is usually related.) But it's a rare work of epic fantasy that's willing to admit its "Women's Mysteries" are little more than a FantasyCounterpartCulture equivalent of that special sixth grade health class for girls.
23rd Apr '17 11:57:45 PM angie710
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In RealLife cultures, this sort of thing is mostly just details about female biology (pregnancy, childbirth, birth control, menstruation, etc.) that men [[TooMuchInformation simply don't need to know]] and women don't care to discuss in mixed company. But it's a rare work of epic fantasy that's willing to admit its "Women's Mysteries" are little more than a FantasyCounterpartCulture equivalent of that special sixth grade health class for girls.

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In RealLife cultures, this sort of thing is mostly just details about female biology (pregnancy, childbirth, birth control, menstruation, etc.) that men [[TooMuchInformation simply don't need (or want) to know]] and women don't care to discuss in mixed company. But it's a rare work of epic fantasy that's willing to admit its "Women's Mysteries" are little more than a FantasyCounterpartCulture equivalent of that special sixth grade health class for girls.
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