History Main / WithholdingTheCure

28th Oct '17 5:56:35 PM nighttrainfm
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** Wakanda (the home nation of the ComicBook/BlackPanther) has had the cures for [[{{Panacea}} pretty much everything]](along with free energy, spaceflight, etc.) for centuries but refuses to release them, at least when written by ReginaldHudlin. InUniverse, they justify this by [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsk4mg_black-panther-motion-comic-episode-3_shortfilms claiming]] that they're not "ahead" of the world so much that everyone ''else'' has fallen ''behind''; basically, they're saying the rest of the world is doing this trope to ''themselves'' by not taking the long view, instead focusing their efforts on [[{{Realpolitik}} political advantage]] and [[TallPoppySyndrome economic dominance]].

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** Wakanda (the home nation of the ComicBook/BlackPanther) has had the cures for [[{{Panacea}} pretty much everything]](along with free energy, spaceflight, etc.) for centuries but refuses to release them, at least when written by ReginaldHudlin. InUniverse, they justify this by [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsk4mg_black-panther-motion-comic-episode-3_shortfilms claiming]] that they're not "ahead" of the world so much that everyone ''else'' has fallen ''behind''; basically, they're saying the rest of the world is doing this trope to ''themselves'' by not taking the long view, instead focusing their efforts on [[{{Realpolitik}} political advantage]] and [[TallPoppySyndrome [[CapitalismIsBad economic dominance]].
28th Oct '17 5:55:10 PM nighttrainfm
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* The Franchise/{{DCAU}} style animated movie ''WesternAnimation/SupermanDoomsday'' briefly mentions this as a KickTheDog moment. Lex Luthor has found a cure for muscular dystrophy, but he's holding it back until he can slow it down to a lifetime treatment and make more money, as he's not satisfied with the $300 billion he estimates it would already make him.

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* The Franchise/{{DCAU}} style DC animated movie ''WesternAnimation/SupermanDoomsday'' briefly mentions this as a KickTheDog moment. Lex Luthor has found a cure for muscular dystrophy, but he's holding it back until he can slow it down to a lifetime treatment and make more money, as he's not satisfied with the $300 billion he estimates it would already make him. Superman, by contrast, is actively trying [[CureForCancer to cure cancer]] and is frustrated at his lack of progress.
28th Oct '17 5:10:17 PM Euodiachloris
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Inverted. [[spoiler:Littlefinger is practically stuffing the "curing" medication down little Robert Arryn's neck via a Maester (or using the poor guy as camouflage) in a bid to fully control when to kill him with it under the cover of helping him. The Vale is, unknowingly, being held to ransom as a result.]] Remember, folks: too much of an otherwise good thing is often bad.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': Inverted. [[spoiler:Littlefinger [[spoiler:Littlefinger]] is practically stuffing the "curing" medication down little [[spoiler: Robert Arryn's Arryn's]] neck via a Maester (or using the poor guy as camouflage) in a bid to fully control when to kill him the patient with it under the cover of helping him. them. The Vale [[spoiler: Vale]] is, unknowingly, being held to ransom as a result.]] result. Remember, folks: too much of an otherwise good thing is often bad.
24th Oct '17 4:48:22 PM Kalaong
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment Tuskegee syphilis experiment.]] A clinical study run by the US government for ''fifty years'' on the progression of syphilis in southern Blacks. When the study started, it involved treating syphilis with an expensive and not-very-effective treatment. When the funding got reduced, they couldn't afford the treatment. Instead, they just continued to study the patients, while telling them they were being treated so they could study the progression of the disease, without informing them exactly what they had. Then, during the course of the study, a cheap and effective cure (penicillin) became available, but the doctors in charge realized that curing the patients would put an end to their research. Not only did they withhold treatment, but ''they refused to tell the subjects what they were sick with'', allowing the disease to spread in the process. [[PyrrhicVillainy This pretty much destroyed any future attempts at using science to justify racism.]] It showed that black people also were affected by the disease exactly the same that white people were. Before this, it was almost accepted that white people were medically different from black people and therefore superior or such nonsense.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment Tuskegee syphilis experiment.]] A clinical study run by the US government for ''fifty years'' on the progression of syphilis in southern Blacks. When the study started, started in 1932, it involved treating syphilis with an expensive and not-very-effective treatment. When the funding got reduced, they couldn't afford the treatment. Instead, they just continued to study the patients, while telling them they were being treated so they could study the progression of the disease, without informing them exactly what they had. Then, during Then penicillin became available in the course of the study, mid-1940s, and by 1947 was recognized as a cheap and effective cure (penicillin) became available, -- but the doctors in charge realized that curing the patients would put an end to their research. Not only did they withhold treatment, but ''they refused to tell the subjects what they were sick with'', allowing the disease to spread in the process.process -- and the study continued until '''1972'''. [[PyrrhicVillainy This pretty much destroyed any future attempts at using science to justify racism.]] It showed that black people also were affected by the disease exactly the same that white people were. Before this, it was almost accepted that white people were medically different from black people and therefore superior or such nonsense.
5th Oct '17 4:36:16 AM DesertDragon
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As you may know, this trope is one of the biggest [[ConspiracyTheories/HToN conspiracy theories]] in American culture: the belief that "Big Pharma" has developed cures for AIDS, cancer,[[note]]despite cancer not being a single disease but a ''type'' of disease[[/note]] the common cold, and so on, but would rather sell treatments that don't actually cure anything just to maximize profits. This assumes that all countries in the world use the American healthcare model, even though countries with socialized medicine like Canada and the UK are very much interested in cures for chronic ailments to reduce the tax burden their systems create. Within the US, it assumes the people working within Big Pharma are simply saving these cures for themselves and their families, even though rich people die from cancer and other illnesses all the time. The people who push this theory the most are either not very knowledgeable about the subject, or they're trying to [[SnakeOilSalesman sell you something themselves]]. For the sake of [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment cautious editing]], no RealLife examples unless you have documentation, aside from media reports on people's perceptions.

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As you may know, this trope is one of the biggest [[ConspiracyTheories/HToN conspiracy theories]] in American culture: the world: the belief that "Big Pharma" has developed cures for AIDS, cancer,[[note]]despite cancer[[note]]despite cancer not being a single disease but a ''type'' of disease[[/note]] disease[[/note]], the common cold, and so on, but would rather sell treatments that don't actually cure anything just to maximize profits. This assumes that all countries in the world use the American healthcare model, even though countries with socialized medicine like Canada and the UK healthcare are very much interested in cures for chronic ailments to reduce the tax burden their systems create. Within the US, it assumes the people working within Big Pharma are simply saving these cures for themselves and their families, even though rich people die from cancer and other illnesses all the time. The people who push this theory the most are either not very knowledgeable about the subject, or they're trying to [[SnakeOilSalesman sell you something themselves]]. For the sake of [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment cautious editing]], no RealLife examples unless you have documentation, aside from media reports on people's perceptions.
23rd Sep '17 8:48:18 PM nombretomado
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* There was an episode of ''BarneyMiller'' where the perp was a research scientist who had destroyed the property of his former employers because they refused to let him research the cure for [some disease] on the grounds that it wasn't fatal and there were too few sufferers for a cure to be profitable. Barney managed to talk his former boss into dropping charges and rehiring the guy, partly with the argument that by the time the cure was developed there may be an epidemic, "with any luck".

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* There was an episode of ''BarneyMiller'' ''Series/BarneyMiller'' where the perp was a research scientist who had destroyed the property of his former employers because they refused to let him research the cure for [some disease] on the grounds that it wasn't fatal and there were too few sufferers for a cure to be profitable. Barney managed to talk his former boss into dropping charges and rehiring the guy, partly with the argument that by the time the cure was developed there may be an epidemic, "with any luck".
11th Sep '17 4:18:04 PM Doug86
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** On a lighter note, when Reed Richards of ''Comicbook/TheFantasticFour'' was messing around with calculations one day, he stumbled on a permanent cure for acne. Revlon and a dozen other companies are paying him dumptrucks full of money ''not'' to release it.

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** On a lighter note, when Reed Richards of ''Comicbook/TheFantasticFour'' the Comicbook/FantasticFour was messing around with calculations one day, he stumbled on a permanent cure for acne. Revlon and a dozen other companies are paying him dumptrucks full of money ''not'' to release it.
3rd Aug '17 11:46:23 PM AnoSa
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*** It's worth noting that this does '''not''' apply with the [=US=] market--one of the tests the [=FDA=] required already at the time was one intended to see if it'd be transmitted through the placenta.[[note]]Failing this test doesn't necessarily mean a drug won't get approved, as Thalidomide is currently an option for chemo patients.[[/note]]
** Assuming you somehow manage to get your potential cure or vaccine through testing, it's often actually very limited in what it actually is capable of doing, such as [[http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117961 this vaccine for herpes that provides women and only women with some protection]]. The overall expectation is that you can be relatively certain that a certain part of the population will [[TooDumbToLive believe it is a]] MagicAntidote, and with some diseases the legal risk posed by this particular group is bad enough you may not even be able to find enough funding to ''do'' human trials.
3rd Aug '17 10:12:28 PM AnoSa
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** More of an inspiration for the trope is the simple economic fact that drugs that suppress symptoms while leaving the body to fight a disease on its own are both cheaper to make and can be sold more often than outright cures--especially as many such symptoms are actually the body's effort to fight the disease; for example, cold "medicine" suppresses coughing and sneezing, but this is meant to eject contaminants from the body in phlegm and mucus. Suppressing it makes colds last ''longer''--and conveniently, buy more cold "medicine". Same with fevers; an attempt by the body to literally burn out an infection that just happens to put a person through extended discomfort, and lowering fevers with drugs often extends the sickness that caused them. Even allergy medicine can fall into this trap - histamine reactions are due to the body (over)reacting to contaminants like pollen and animal dander as if they were infections, and taking antihistamines while one is actually sick can extend the disease. Many drugs have been discovered that are significantly more effective than those commonly sold, but that very effectiveness means that fewer units of it ''can'' be sold. Add in that the better drugs are usually more expensive to manufacture, and they are almost impossible to find.[[note]]At least in countries without socialized medicine; ''many'' OTC prescriptions that go for hundreds of dollars in the US are cheaper than cough syrup in Canada and the UK.[[/note]]
24th Jul '17 9:11:19 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/TheOuterLimits'':
** Played with in one episode, when an attempt to create a safe and reliable KnockoutGas for crowd control results in drug that seems to boost body's ability to fight off any disease or toxin UpToEleven. The chimp that it's tested on is able to take several shots of cyanide without a problem. The scientist's brother is a CorruptCorporateExecutive, who immediately clamps down on the supposed panacea, claiming that it's likely to cause overcrowding, as people will no longer be dying at the same rate, while still breeding like rabbits. The scientist treats it as an attempt to make money, even though it's a clear case of JerkassHasAPoint (i.e. without PopulationControl, any such cure would be really bad for humanity). The exec brother then uses the drug on himself in order to treat his Parkinson's. However, at the end, it's discovered that the supposed "cure" is actually CastFromLifespan, draining the body of all resources, until the person (or the above-mentioned chimp) just drops dead in a matter of days, completely spent. The exec brother spends the rest of his life in a sterile life support chamber, unable to move, as his body is no longer able to sustain itself.
** Averted in another episode, where a scientist is perfectly willing to release his new [[{{Nanomachines}} nanite]]-based cure that would make cancer (or any other cell-related problem) a thing of the past, only to meet opposition from people claiming that he's playing God. On the other hand, he's only at the testing phase, and the "cure" isn't even close to being ready for distribution yet. A friend of his ends up injecting himself with nanites in order to cure his terminal-stage cancer, which works at first (even fixing his poor eyesight), but the untested nanites then start making "[[BodyHorror modifications]]" to his body, reacting to what they perceive are flaws (e.g. [[ApparentlyHumanMerfolk inability to breathe underwater]], [[EyesDoNotBelongThere limited vision]], and [[ShockAndAwe need for additional defense mechanisms]]). In the end, the scientist is forced to kill the poor sap (at his own request) and burns down his lab in the process, forever destroying the potential cure.

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* ''Series/TheOuterLimits'':
''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'':
** Played with in one episode, episode ("Blood Brothers"), when an attempt to create a safe and reliable KnockoutGas for crowd control results in drug that seems to boost body's ability to fight off any disease or toxin UpToEleven. The chimp that it's tested on is able to take several shots of cyanide without a problem. The scientist's brother is a CorruptCorporateExecutive, who immediately clamps down on the supposed panacea, claiming that it's likely to cause overcrowding, as people will no longer be dying at the same rate, while still breeding like rabbits. The scientist treats it as an attempt to make money, even though it's a clear case of JerkassHasAPoint (i.e. without PopulationControl, any such cure would be really bad for humanity). The exec brother then uses the drug on himself in order to treat his Parkinson's. However, at the end, it's discovered that the supposed "cure" is actually CastFromLifespan, draining the body of all resources, until the person (or the above-mentioned chimp) just drops dead in a matter of days, completely spent. The exec brother spends the rest of his life in a sterile life support chamber, unable to move, as his body is no longer able to sustain itself.
** Averted in another episode, episode ("The New Breed"), where a scientist is perfectly willing to release his new [[{{Nanomachines}} nanite]]-based cure that would make cancer (or any other cell-related problem) a thing of the past, only to meet opposition from people claiming that he's playing God. On the other hand, he's only at the testing phase, and the "cure" isn't even close to being ready for distribution yet. A friend of his ends up injecting himself with nanites in order to cure his terminal-stage cancer, which works at first (even fixing his poor eyesight), but the untested nanites then start making "[[BodyHorror modifications]]" to his body, reacting to what they perceive are flaws (e.g. [[ApparentlyHumanMerfolk inability to breathe underwater]], [[EyesDoNotBelongThere limited vision]], and [[ShockAndAwe need for additional defense mechanisms]]). In the end, the scientist is forced to kill the poor sap (at his own request) and burns down his lab in the process, forever destroying the potential cure.
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