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17th Jul '16 12:42:35 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} role playing games vary this. TabletopGame/DeathWatch starts you and your battle brothers with gear that is decent - for a value of "decent" that 99% of the Imperium's armed forces would lie, steal and murder for. TabletopGame/RogueTrader also averts this - the question is not whether you can afford a Lasgun, but whether you can afford ten thousand of them for your household troops (and the answer is usually "Sure, take it out of the petty cash!"). TabletopGame/DarkHeresy was a bit worse about this, since the franchise was only slowly breaking away from traditional adventurer group rpgs and finding its own stride - thus, the agents of the most powerful organization of the Imperium are often equipped with the herring. TabletopGame/OnlyWar finally usually averts this, but also occasionally indulges the trope: The players can first build their regiment which gives them a good set of standard equipment useful for their troop type. Then comes the [[RandomNumberGod logistics roll]] that determines whether the Departmento Munitorum assigns you 20 kg of explosives for the sabotage mission... [[RuleOfFunny or 20 crates of Ogryn dress uniforms.]]

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** The TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} role playing games vary this. TabletopGame/DeathWatch starts you and your battle brothers with gear that is decent - for a value of "decent" that 99% of the Imperium's armed forces would lie, steal and murder for. TabletopGame/RogueTrader also averts this - the question is not whether you can afford a Lasgun, but whether you can afford ten thousand of them for your household troops (and the answer is usually "Sure, take it out of the petty cash!"). TabletopGame/DarkHeresy was a bit worse about this, since the franchise was only slowly breaking away from traditional adventurer group rpgs and finding its own stride - thus, the agents of the most powerful organization of the Imperium are often equipped with the herring. In that case it often overlaps with OnSiteProcurement; you're supposed to be low-key investigators after all, if they wanted to go in heavy they would have sent one of their many military forces. TabletopGame/OnlyWar finally usually averts this, but also occasionally indulges the trope: The players can first build their regiment which gives them a good set of standard equipment useful for their troop type. Then comes the [[RandomNumberGod logistics roll]] that determines whether the Departmento Munitorum assigns you 20 kg of explosives for the sabotage mission... [[RuleOfFunny or 20 crates of Ogryn dress uniforms.]]
17th Jul '16 12:21:04 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* ''[[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]]'' - in "The Day the Earth Froze", the evil witch challenges the hero to plow a field of snakes - when he challenges her on this point she replies "Hey, ''I'm'' the curse boss here!"

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* ''[[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]]'' - in "The Day the Earth Froze", "Film/TheDayTheEarthFroze" episode, the evil witch challenges the hero to plow a field of snakes - when he challenges her on this point she replies "Hey, ''I'm'' the curse boss here!"here!" In the actual movie she's deliberately wasting his time.
24th Jun '16 1:38:29 PM TheUnknownUploader
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* RickRiordan's ''Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus'': The only formal aid the Roman Senate gives Percy, Frank, and Hazel on their quest to save Camp Jupiter in ''Son Of Neptune'' is the piece-of-crap dinghy that sinks outside of Seattle.

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* RickRiordan's ''Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus'': The only formal aid the Roman Senate gives Percy, Frank, and Hazel on their quest to save Camp Jupiter in ''Son Of Neptune'' is the piece-of-crap dinghy that sinks outside of Seattle. And that alone took a lot of begging.
19th Jun '16 9:50:45 AM ErikModi
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** {{Lampshaded}} by the convict with the shiv, when everyone else draws their guns (including a custom assault rifle, a sniper rifle, dual nickel-plated pistols, and even a ''[[GatlingGood freaking minigun]]'', and he looks down at his shiv, and laments at length the fact that he has no gun.
19th Jun '16 4:03:24 AM Gess
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* OlderThanRadio: The title character of the European folk tale "Literature/TheBraveLittleTailor" is dragooned into setting out to save the kingdom from giants, with no special equipment or training. And [[IdiotPlot one word of explanation might have gotten him out of it]]. The story was collected by such 19th-century folklorists as Creator/TheBrothersGrimm.

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* OlderThanRadio: The title character of the European folk tale "Literature/TheBraveLittleTailor" is dragooned into setting out to save the kingdom from giants, with no special equipment or training. And [[IdiotPlot one word of explanation might have gotten him out of it]]. The story was collected by such 19th-century folklorists as Creator/TheBrothersGrimm. Of course, [[UriahGambit the king doesn't actully ''expect'' him to survive or succeed]].
30th Apr '16 4:03:24 PM MAI742
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* In the first year of the Soviet-German War, regular Red Army combat units underwent a more than 300% turnover (4 million captured of whom almost all died in German captivity, 2 million dead, and 4 million wounded of a pre-war strength of 3 million) in personnel. The turnover in Penal Battalion (a ''Shtrafbat'' was a unit of up to 1000 men) units, in which deserters and criminals were offered the opportunity to earn their freedom by serving in the thick of the fighting, was even higher. There are even rumours that in this first year, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtrafbat#Infantry_battalions several were used for 'combat reconnaisance' (drawing fire to expose the positions of enemy units) or actual combat when only semi-armed or possibly unarmed]]. It is unclear whether the pragmatic arguments for equipping these the ''Shtrafbaty'' well, as they saw the heaviest combat, won out over the inclination to avoid favouring cowards, criminals, and traitors when the material situation improved in the war's second year and began outstripping the Germans' in the third.

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* In the first year of the Soviet-German War, regular Red Army combat units underwent a more than 300% turnover (4 million captured of whom almost all died in German captivity, or [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust were enslaved and then euthanised when they became Unfit-for-Work]], 2 million dead, dead in combat and of wounds, and 4 million wounded hospitalised for wounds of a pre-war strength of 3 million) in personnel. The turnover in Penal Battalion (a ''Shtrafbat'' was a unit of up to 1000 men) units, in which deserters and criminals were offered the opportunity to earn their freedom by serving in the thick of the fighting, was even higher. There are even rumours that in this first year, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtrafbat#Infantry_battalions several were used for 'combat reconnaisance' (drawing fire to expose the positions of enemy units) or actual combat when only semi-armed or possibly unarmed]]. It is unclear whether the pragmatic arguments for equipping these the ''Shtrafbaty'' well, as they saw the heaviest combat, won out over the inclination to avoid favouring cowards, criminals, and traitors when the material situation improved in the war's second year and began outstripping the Germans' in the third.
30th Apr '16 3:57:21 PM MAI742
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** All this gave rise to a popular joke featuring [[RussianHumor the 'Wish-granting Fish' of Russian folklore and humour]]. A Soviet man finds one, and wishes he was a Hero of the Soviet Union. He finds himself in an open field with two grenades and five German tanks.
30th Apr '16 3:50:54 PM MAI742
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*** WWI was another example for Canada, since they were forced to use equipment, such as rifles that got easily jammed with mud, disassembled when fired, wore boots with such poor stitching that they fell apart with the slightest wear, and a shovel designed with a ''hole in it''. In fact, the reputation as storm troopers evolved from a lack of functional equipment for a firefight.
*** To clarify, unlike the Imperial Storm Troopers from Star Wars, the Canadian Storm Troopers were known as purveyors of utmost badassery, known for being able to get further into enemy territory and kick so much ass they made their enemies wet themselves.

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*** The first half of WWI was another example for Canada, since they were forced to use Canada given their initial equipment, such as rifles that got easily jammed with mud, disassembled when fired, wore boots with such poor stitching that they fell apart with the slightest wear, and a shovel designed with a ''hole in it''. In fact, the Their early reputation as storm troopers ''Stosstruppen'', assault troops, partly evolved from a lack of functional equipment for a an ordinary firefight.
*** To clarify, unlike the Imperial Storm Troopers from Star Wars, during 1916-17 the Canadian Storm Troopers were known as purveyors of utmost badassery, known for and Australian Corps acquired truly formidable reputations. This was mostly attributable to their determination to overcome their previous logistical failings and freedom to attempt new solutions to them, rather than Racial Superiority (which, apart from races not being able to get further into enemy territory a thing, was statistically non-present. Indian, Irish, English, etc. units could and kick so much ass they made did outperform them on a man-for-man basis when their enemies wet themselves.artillery and logistical support were of comparable quality).



* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtrafbat#Infantry_battalions Soviet Union Shtrafbats were reportedly frequently sent into battle unarmed or with sticks made to mimic rifles]]. Of course, the point such military units were mostly [[RedemptionEqualsDeath to get them killed for redemption in the eyes of the Soviet Union]].

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* In the first year of the Soviet-German War, regular Red Army combat units underwent a more than 300% turnover (4 million captured of whom almost all died in German captivity, 2 million dead, and 4 million wounded of a pre-war strength of 3 million) in personnel. The turnover in Penal Battalion (a ''Shtrafbat'' was a unit of up to 1000 men) units, in which deserters and criminals were offered the opportunity to earn their freedom by serving in the thick of the fighting, was even higher. There are even rumours that in this first year, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtrafbat#Infantry_battalions Soviet Union Shtrafbats several were reportedly frequently sent into battle unarmed or with sticks made used for 'combat reconnaisance' (drawing fire to mimic rifles]]. Of course, expose the point such military units were mostly [[RedemptionEqualsDeath to get them killed positions of enemy units) or actual combat when only semi-armed or possibly unarmed]]. It is unclear whether the pragmatic arguments for redemption equipping these the ''Shtrafbaty'' well, as they saw the heaviest combat, won out over the inclination to avoid favouring cowards, criminals, and traitors when the material situation improved in the eyes of war's second year and began outstripping the Soviet Union]].Germans' in the third.
5th Apr '16 5:36:56 AM Ereiam
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* Luffy from ''Manga/OnePiece'' starts off his adventure on the high-seas with nothing but his clothes, a devil-fruit power ([[SuperDrowningSkills which prevents him from swimming]]) and a dingy. And on top of his lack of material supplies, about the only thing he really knows how to do is fight so he can't even navigate.

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* Luffy from ''Manga/OnePiece'' starts off his adventure on the high-seas with nothing but his clothes, a devil-fruit power ([[SuperDrowningSkills which prevents him from swimming]]) and a dingy.dinghy. And on top of his lack of material supplies, about the only thing he really knows how to do is fight so he can't even navigate.
5th Apr '16 5:34:45 AM Ereiam
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-->Celestia: You were in no danger from that dragon--
-->Twilight Sparkle: NO DANGER? That dragon nearly had hickory smoked pony for a bedtime snack!!

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-->Celestia: -->'''Celestia''': You were in no danger from that dragon--
-->Twilight Sparkle: -->'''Twilight Sparkle''': NO DANGER? That dragon nearly had hickory smoked pony for a bedtime snack!!
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