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21st Feb '18 11:09:08 AM nombretomado
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* RickRiordan's ''Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus'': The only formal aid the Roman Senate gives Percy, Frank, and Hazel on their quest to save Camp Jupiter in ''Son Of Neptune'' is the piece-of-crap dinghy that sinks outside of Seattle. And that alone took a lot of begging.

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* RickRiordan's Creator/RickRiordan's ''Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus'': The only formal aid the Roman Senate gives Percy, Frank, and Hazel on their quest to save Camp Jupiter in ''Son Of Neptune'' is the piece-of-crap dinghy that sinks outside of Seattle. And that alone took a lot of begging.
13th Feb '18 5:17:53 AM KBABZ
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* In ''Manga/Dragon Ball'', Goku begins the quest for the Dragon Balls in the Red Ribbon arc with nothing but a magical cloud, an extending stick and some martial arts skills. With them, [[OneManArmy he wipes out the entire Red Ribbon Army at the end of the story]]. He's in a similar situation at the start of the King Piccolo arc (a villain who can blow up cities all by himself), only this time he quickly loses the cloud!

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* In ''Manga/Dragon Ball'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', Goku begins the quest for the Dragon Balls in the Red Ribbon arc with nothing but a magical cloud, an extending stick and some martial arts skills. With them, [[OneManArmy he wipes out the entire Red Ribbon Army at the end of the story]]. He's in a similar situation at the start of the King Piccolo arc (a villain who can blow up cities all by himself), only this time he quickly loses the cloud!
13th Feb '18 5:17:34 AM KBABZ
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* In ''Manga/Dragon Ball'', Goku begins the quest for the Dragon Balls in the Red Ribbon arc with nothing but a magical cloud, an extending stick and some martial arts skills. With them, [[OneManArmy he wipes out the entire Red Ribbon Army at the end of the story]]. He's in a similar situation at the start of the King Piccolo arc (a villain who can blow up cities all by himself), only this time he quickly loses the cloud!
30th Dec '17 9:50:04 AM wingedcatgirl
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SurvivalHorror has a form of this trope, but there it tends to work a little better, as it's less about deliberately being shafted and more about not getting a chance to prepare (in the original ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil'', for example, the main characters have standard-issue gear for a police special unit -- it just doesn't help much when faced with [[ZombieApocalypse the walking dead]]).

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SurvivalHorror has a form of this trope, but there it tends to work a little better, as it's less about deliberately being shafted and more about not getting a chance to prepare (in the original ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil'', for example, the main characters have standard-issue gear for a police special unit -- it just doesn't help much when faced with [[ZombieApocalypse the walking dead]]).
prepare.
27th Dec '17 4:20:16 AM LentilSandEater
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* Lampshaded in the second episode (the RPG parody) of ''Anime/MagicalShoppingArcadeAbenobashi'' when king-Papan charges Sasshi and Arumi with defeating the dark lord, Aki-nee. The king gives them a bag of gold, then the court turns around and goes back into the castle again.
* Lampshaded even more brutally in full-on RPG parody series ''Manga/MagicalCircleGuruGuru'' when the king loudly disavows himself of all responsibility for the child heroes after giving them a small amount of gold.

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* Lampshaded in In the second episode (the RPG parody) of ''Anime/MagicalShoppingArcadeAbenobashi'' when king-Papan charges Sasshi and Arumi with defeating the dark lord, Aki-nee. The king gives them a bag of gold, then the court turns around and goes back into the castle again.
* Lampshaded Done even more brutally in full-on RPG parody series ''Manga/MagicalCircleGuruGuru'' when the king loudly disavows himself of all responsibility for the child heroes after giving them a small amount of gold.



* Two of the characters facing down bloodthirsty aliens with future tech in ''Film/{{Predators}}'' are armed with a scalpel and a prison shiv. This is actually justified, however, as everyone grabbed by the Predators comes equipped with the weaponry they are most familiar with. Whether or not that weaponry is practical for combating Predators.
** {{Lampshaded}} by the convict with the shiv, when everyone else draws their guns (including a custom assault rifle, a sniper rifle, dual nickel-plated pistols, and even a ''[[GatlingGood freaking minigun]]'', and he looks down at his shiv, and laments at length the fact that he has no gun.

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* Two of the characters facing down bloodthirsty aliens with future tech in ''Film/{{Predators}}'' are armed with a scalpel and a prison shiv. This is actually justified, however, as everyone grabbed by the Predators comes equipped with the weaponry they are most familiar with. Whether or not that weaponry is practical for combating Predators.
** {{Lampshaded}} by the convict with the shiv,
Predators. So when everyone else draws their guns (including a custom assault rifle, a sniper rifle, dual nickel-plated pistols, and even a ''[[GatlingGood freaking minigun]]'', and he this one guy looks down at his shiv, and laments at length the fact that he has no gun.
4th Dec '17 11:59:54 AM EDP
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** By the time WorldWarII started, Italy was theoretically well-equipped... Except the government had learned all the wrong lessons from the conflicts in the 30s and thus gave the troops inadequate equipment (most notably, the Italian Navy had no carriers even in presence of the technical ability to build and equip them and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79 the existence of a capable torpedo bomber design]], and Italy's main fighter design was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42 a biplane]]), and, as the war was expected to start in 1942 at the earliest, the country was caught before it could accumulate adequate reserves of primary resources and produce the few good equipment in the necessary amounts (as an example among many, Italy was switching to a better infantry cartridge, for which they even had [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucile_Armaguerra_Mod._39 a semiautomatic rifle]],

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** By the time WorldWarII started, Italy was theoretically well-equipped... Except the government had learned all the wrong lessons from the conflicts in the 30s and thus gave the troops inadequate equipment (most notably, the Italian Navy had no carriers even in presence of the technical ability to build and equip them and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79 the existence of a capable torpedo bomber design]], and Italy's main fighter design was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42 a biplane]]), and, as the war was expected to start in 1942 at the earliest, the country was caught before it could accumulate adequate reserves of primary resources and produce the few good equipment in the necessary amounts (as an example among many, Italy was switching to a better infantry cartridge, for which they even had [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucile_Armaguerra_Mod._39 a semiautomatic rifle]], but with the war starting three years early production of the new cartridge and the rechambered Carcano rifles was stopped due insufficient reserves preventing an immediate switch and possibly causing logistic complications Italy could not deal with, and production of the semiautomatic rifle had to be postponed to 1943 due difficulties in adapting it to the old round).
4th Dec '17 11:56:54 AM EDP
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** By the time WorldWarII started, Italy was theoretically well-equipped... Except the government had learned all the wrong lessons from the conflicts in the 30s and thus gave the troops inadequate equipment (most notably, the Italian Navy had no carriers even in presence of the technical ability to build and equip them and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM.79 the existence of a capable torpedo bomber design]], and Italy's main fighter design was [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42 a biplane]]), and, as the war was expected to start in 1942 at the earliest, the country was caught before it could accumulate adequate reserves of primary resources and produce the few good equipment in the necessary amounts (as an example among many, Italy was switching to a better infantry cartridge, for which they even had [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucile_Armaguerra_Mod._39 a semiautomatic rifle]],
4th Dec '17 11:36:50 AM EDP
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* A problem for the Italian Army in both World Wars, even if in different ways:
** Italy started WorldWarI with insufficient numbers of ''everything'', and especially machine guns, due a combination of political interference and incompetence, the first competent commander-in-chief in a long time, Alberto Pollio, having to face serious interference due his political leanings (being favorable to the Triple Alliance in a political climate favoring ditching Germany and the ArchEnemy Austria-Hungary for the other side) ''and'' organize the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo-Turkish_War conquest of Libya]] before his highly suspicious death in 1914, Pollio's successor Cadorna having to start from scratch as he was his political opponent and couldn't take advantage of his predecessor's connections, and a beyond stupid political attitude about the acquisition of machine guns.[[note]]After buying an initial batch of Vickers, Italy resolved to use a national design, and obtained the effective [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perino_Model_1908 Perino machine gun]]... Whose acquisition was stopped at 150 units due a combination of a heavy tripod (a problem that the inventor himself provided to solve with a new lighter tripod) and [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem the head of the commission that was to decide if continue production being the inventor of the competing but inferior FIAT 1914 machine gun]]. As the FIAT machine gun was crap, Pollio and his successor Cadorna resolved to buy more Vickers... That were never delivered, even if the ministry paid them in advance, due the start of the war and Italy being nominally allied with Britain's enemies. Hence the adoption of the FIAT machine gun, much to Cadorna's consternation as he had no idea the weight issues of the Perino had been solved and the others were fabrications.[[/note]] The problems were mostly solved by 1917, in time to contribute to Italy's successful defense of the Grappa Massif after the Austro-Hungarian breakthrough at Caporetto, and completely solved with American help by the summer.
27th Sep '17 5:44:51 AM PixelKnight
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** ''Paranoia'' does something even worse: It's actually not that odd to get equipment assigned to you. Lots of equipment. Tons of it. Things you don't need, even. But one small detail: You're ''responsible'' for all the equipment given to you (including things like, say, grenades), and are expected to return it in the same condition you were given it. This being ''Paranoia'', it hardly needs saying that a failure to do so is treason. Or bringing it back in perfect condition is treason, as you failed to use your resources appropriately. Or both: you get accused of treason for failing to bring one thing back in mint condition ''and'' for failing to use your resources appropriately. Even if, logically, you had no way of knowing that you could set things on fire by pouring the latest version of Bouncy Bubble Beverage on them--or that this was what Friend Computer (or your superiors, [[BadBoss who probably do want you dead]]) wanted, instead of you using your zap-gun or, y'know, a grenade. ''Never'' underestimate the ways you can get killed and/or accused of treason in ''Paranoia''.

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** ''Paranoia'' does something even worse: It's actually not that odd to get equipment assigned to you. Lots of equipment. Tons of it. Things you don't need, even. But one small detail: You're ''responsible'' for all the equipment given to you (including things like, say, grenades), and are expected to return it in the same condition you were given it.it. Yes that includes grenades. This being ''Paranoia'', it hardly needs saying that a failure to do so is treason. Or bringing it back in perfect condition is treason, as you failed to use your resources appropriately. Or both: you get accused of treason for failing to bring one thing back in mint condition ''and'' for failing to use your resources appropriately. Even if, logically, you had no way of knowing that you could set things on fire by pouring the latest version of Bouncy Bubble Beverage on them--or that this was what Friend Computer (or your superiors, [[BadBoss who probably do want you dead]]) wanted, instead of you using your zap-gun or, y'know, a grenade. ''Never'' underestimate the ways you can get killed and/or accused of treason in ''Paranoia''.
9th Sep '17 9:05:32 PM sgamer82
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* Lampshaded even more brutally in full-on RPG parody series ''Anime/MahoujinGuruGuru'' when the king loudly disavows himself of all responsibility for the child heroes after giving them a small amount of gold.

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* Lampshaded even more brutally in full-on RPG parody series ''Anime/MahoujinGuruGuru'' ''Manga/MagicalCircleGuruGuru'' when the king loudly disavows himself of all responsibility for the child heroes after giving them a small amount of gold.
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