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18th Jun '17 12:11:18 AM AlleyOop
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** Prompto gets it the worst of the lot, being that he's a short blond {{Keet}} {{Bishonen}} who kinda looks like Cloud Strife. He does [[StepfordSmiler have genuine self-confidence issues beneath his extroverted persona]], but eventually overcomes them with a little pushing from his friends, only ever cries in the main game ''once'' (during a time when literally everyone else is too), and is plenty capable of taking and dishing snark in equal measure. And while the game indicates he's the poorest fighter of the team, it's only he's inexperienced, not because he's physically weak. He's actually more muscular than [[MusclesAreMeaningless Noctis]], and he's strong enough to beat enemy soldiers to death with his bare hands. However fangirls frequently gloss over this and exaggerate him into a spineless frail weepy mess and literal DamselInDistress who falls apart without Noctis's constant validation, leading to hot steamy sex which frequently ends in Prompto [[MisterSeahorse becoming pregnant]].

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** Prompto gets it the worst of the lot, being that he's a short blond {{Keet}} {{Bishonen}} who kinda looks like Cloud Strife. He does [[StepfordSmiler have genuine self-confidence issues beneath his extroverted persona]], but eventually overcomes them with a little pushing from his friends, only ever cries in the main game ''once'' (during a time when literally everyone else is too), too),can take and dish snark with the best of them, and is plenty capable of taking and dishing snark in equal measure. quite chipper about killing his enemies. And while the game indicates states he's the poorest fighter of the team, it's only because he's inexperienced, not because he's physically weak. He's actually more muscular than [[MusclesAreMeaningless Noctis]], and he's is strong and skilled enough to beat enemy soldiers to death with his bare hands. However fangirls frequently gloss over this and exaggerate him into a spineless frail weepy mess and literal DamselInDistress or an infantile [[TheIngenue Ingenue]] who can't even hurt a fly and falls apart without Noctis's constant validation, leading to hot steamy sex which frequently ends in Prompto [[MisterSeahorse becoming pregnant]]. They forget it's ''his'' job to protect Noctis, not the other way around.
17th Jun '17 1:41:09 PM AlleyOop
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** Prompto gets it the worst of the lot, being that he's a skinny short blond {{Keet}} who kinda looks like Cloud Strife. He does [[StepfordSmiler have genuine self-confidence issues beneath his extroverted persona]], but eventually overcomes them with a little pushing from his friends, only ever cries in the main game ''once'' (during a time when literally everyone else is too), and is plenty capable of taking and dishing snark in equal measure. And while the game indicates he's the poorest fighter of the team, it's because he has less formal combat training, not because he's physically delicate. In fact [[AllThereInTheManual the anime]] shows he exercises vigorously, to the point he actually has ''more'' visible muscle definition than [[MusclesAreMeaningless Noctis]]. However fangirls frequently gloss over this and exaggerate him into a spineless frail weepy mess and literal DamselInDistress who falls apart without Noctis's constant validation, leading to hot steamy sex which frequently ends in Prompto [[MisterSeahorse becoming pregnant]].

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** Prompto gets it the worst of the lot, being that he's a skinny short blond {{Keet}} {{Bishonen}} who kinda looks like Cloud Strife. He does [[StepfordSmiler have genuine self-confidence issues beneath his extroverted persona]], but eventually overcomes them with a little pushing from his friends, only ever cries in the main game ''once'' (during a time when literally everyone else is too), and is plenty capable of taking and dishing snark in equal measure. And while the game indicates he's the poorest fighter of the team, it's because he has less formal combat training, only he's inexperienced, not because he's physically delicate. In fact [[AllThereInTheManual the anime]] shows he exercises vigorously, to the point he weak. He's actually has ''more'' visible muscle definition more muscular than [[MusclesAreMeaningless Noctis]].Noctis]], and he's strong enough to beat enemy soldiers to death with his bare hands. However fangirls frequently gloss over this and exaggerate him into a spineless frail weepy mess and literal DamselInDistress who falls apart without Noctis's constant validation, leading to hot steamy sex which frequently ends in Prompto [[MisterSeahorse becoming pregnant]].
31st May '17 9:34:46 PM HebiKaze10
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** Josuke also isn't exempt from this. Though he is submissive and passive in his first scene, he gets his BerserkButton breached and shows his temper and how strong his Stand is. Likewise, he did also need rescuing at one point but so did Koichi and his mother, and not only doess he have the [[AndIMustScream final shot against his kidnapper]], but saves his saviour as well. Throughout the story, he becomes more confident and assertive. Still, works that pair him with Kira[[note]]the main antagonist[[/note]], Jotaro[[note]]his older nephew[[/note]] or Yuya[[note]]the guy who saves him[[/note]] tend to up his submissiveness and make him quite meek and shy. Sometimes he's even delegated as a [[DistressedDude damsel who needs saving]] or in Kira's case, a helpless damsel. His case could also be like Jonathan in that he's canonically the [[NiceGuy second nicest]] JoJo after [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Jonathan]].

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** Josuke also isn't exempt from this. Though he is submissive and passive in his first scene, he gets his BerserkButton breached and shows his temper and how strong his Stand is. Likewise, he did also need rescuing at one point but so did Koichi and his mother, and not only doess he have the [[AndIMustScream final shot against his kidnapper]], but saves his saviour as well. Throughout the story, he becomes more confident and assertive. Still, works that pair him with Kira[[note]]the main antagonist[[/note]], Jotaro[[note]]his older nephew[[/note]] or Yuya[[note]]the guy who saves him[[/note]] works, where he's the uke, tend to up his submissiveness and make him quite meek and shy. Sometimes he's even delegated as a [[DistressedDude damsel who needs saving]] or or, in Kira's [[TheAntagonist Kira's]] case, a helpless damsel. His case could is also be like Jonathan in that he's canonically the [[NiceGuy second nicest]] JoJo after [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Jonathan]].
31st May '17 9:31:33 PM HebiKaze10
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** Josuke also isn't exempt from this. Though he is submissive and passive in his first scene, he gets his BerserkButton breached and shows his temper and how strong his Stand is. Likewise, he did also need rescuing at one point but so did Koichi and his mother, and not only doess he have the [[AndIMustScream final shot against his kidnapper]], but saves his saviour as well. Throughout the story, he becomes more confident and assertive. Still, works that pair him with Kira[[note]]the main antagonist[[/note]], Jotaro[[note]]his older nephew[[/note]] or Yuya[[note]]the guy who saves him[[/note]] tend to up his submissiveness and make him quite meek and shy. Sometimes he's even delegated as a [[DistressedDude damsel who needs saving]] or in Kira's case, a helpless damsel. His case could also be like Jonathan in that he's canonically the [[NiceGuy second nicest]] JoJo after [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth Jonathan]].
29th May '17 6:29:47 AM Morgenthaler
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*** In regards to the other Asians, Korea tends to top his "partners" but sometimes becomes a victim of this if he's paired up with America, and occasionally with HK. Thailand is lucky enough to dodge this treatment unless he is the love interest of ImperialJapan, and Macau is almost exclusively paired with Hong Kong so he tends to be the top one instead. Though in the case of Korea and Thailand, it's a bit weird considering that both of them [[TheBigGuy are pretty tall]] (Korea is about 179 cm, or at least tall enough to be at eye-to-eye level with ''America'', and Thailand is just a little shorter so he should be at least 177-178 cm).

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*** In regards to the other Asians, Korea tends to top his "partners" but sometimes becomes a victim of this if he's paired up with America, and occasionally with HK. Thailand is lucky enough to dodge this treatment unless he is the love interest of ImperialJapan, UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan, and Macau is almost exclusively paired with Hong Kong so he tends to be the top one instead. Though in the case of Korea and Thailand, it's a bit weird considering that both of them [[TheBigGuy are pretty tall]] (Korea is about 179 cm, or at least tall enough to be at eye-to-eye level with ''America'', and Thailand is just a little shorter so he should be at least 177-178 cm).
25th May '17 4:33:05 PM dabeccanator
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** While not as bad as the previous two in ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'' fan works Mikleo does get hit with this despite his canonical refusal to be TheLoad and is shown to be TheDeterminator several times. And again it has to do with appearance as the most effeminate looking male character in the game and Sorey [[HoYay considering him to be attractive]]. However this is more of a case in Japanese fan works as western fan works will either downplay this or avert it entirely.
17th May '17 3:00:27 AM Cryoclaste
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* [[SuperMarioBros Luigi]]. Yes, ''that'' Luigi. His canon personality may be soft and gentle and he may be a coward, but plenty of slashers have a nasty habit of removing the spine he ''does'' have.

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* [[SuperMarioBros [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Luigi]]. Yes, ''that'' Luigi. His canon personality may be soft and gentle and he may be a coward, but plenty of slashers have a nasty habit of removing the spine he ''does'' have.
30th Apr '17 3:20:18 PM nombretomado
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* Believe it or not, this actually happens often to [[DeadpanSnarker Noah]] from ''TotalDramaIsland''. Cody sometimes too, although he's fairly uke in canon to begin with.

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* Believe it or not, this actually happens often to [[DeadpanSnarker Noah]] from ''TotalDramaIsland''.''WesternAnimation/TotalDramaIsland''. Cody sometimes too, although he's fairly uke in canon to begin with.
26th Apr '17 12:27:09 PM AlleyOop
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* Hanzo from ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' gets this a lot when he's shipped with [=McCree=] and sometimes, [[IncestYayShipping Genji]].

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* %%* Hanzo from ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' gets this a lot when he's shipped with [=McCree=] and sometimes, [[IncestYayShipping Genji]].
26th Apr '17 12:25:27 PM AlleyOop
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** Prompto gets it the worst of the lot, being that he's a skinny short blond {{Keet}} who kinda looks like Cloud Strife. He does [[StepfordSmiler have genuine self-confidence issues beneath his extroverted persona]], but eventually overcomes them with a little pushing from his friends, only ever cries in the game ''once'' (during a time when literally everyone else is too), and is plenty capable of taking and dishing snark in equal measure. And while the game indicates he's the poorest fighter of the team, it's because he has the least formal combat training, not because he's physically delicate. In fact [[AllThereInTheManual the anime]] shows he exercises vigorously, to the point he actually has ''more'' visible muscle definition than [[MusclesAreMeaningless Noctis]]. However fangirls frequently gloss over this and exaggerate him into a spineless frail weepy mess and literal DamselInDistress who falls apart without Noctis's constant validation, leading to hot steamy sex which frequently ends in Prompto [[MisterSeahorse becoming pregnant]].
*** In fics that ships Prompto with [[BigBad Ardyn]], there's a high guarantee [[RapeAsDrama he's going to be raped]]. Doesn't help that in canon [[spoiler:Ardyn has kidnapped Prompto and constantly taunted Noctis about saving him]], [[FandomSpecificPlot leading to many ideas]]...

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** Prompto gets it the worst of the lot, being that he's a skinny short blond {{Keet}} who kinda looks like Cloud Strife. He does [[StepfordSmiler have genuine self-confidence issues beneath his extroverted persona]], but eventually overcomes them with a little pushing from his friends, only ever cries in the main game ''once'' (during a time when literally everyone else is too), and is plenty capable of taking and dishing snark in equal measure. And while the game indicates he's the poorest fighter of the team, it's because he has the least less formal combat training, not because he's physically delicate. In fact [[AllThereInTheManual the anime]] shows he exercises vigorously, to the point he actually has ''more'' visible muscle definition than [[MusclesAreMeaningless Noctis]]. However fangirls frequently gloss over this and exaggerate him into a spineless frail weepy mess and literal DamselInDistress who falls apart without Noctis's constant validation, leading to hot steamy sex which frequently ends in Prompto [[MisterSeahorse becoming pregnant]]. \n*** In fics that ships Prompto with [[BigBad Ardyn]], there's a high guarantee [[RapeAsDrama he's going to be raped]]. Doesn't help that in canon [[spoiler:Ardyn has kidnapped Prompto and constantly taunted Noctis about saving him]], [[FandomSpecificPlot leading to many ideas]]...



** Ignis also gets a lot of it. In game he's the resident chef whose job is to be Noctis's adviser and caretaker, and does so with gusto. Likewise it's popular to interpret him as the TeamMom to Gladio's TeamDad. However in fanfiction this is warped into him becoming a ''literal'' housewife or mother figure to the other characters (despite being no more than two years older than Noctis and Prompto), even though he can be quite firm with the others when they step out of line, their own feelings be damned.

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** Ignis also gets a lot of it. In game he's the resident chef whose job is to be Noctis's adviser and caretaker, and does so with gusto. Likewise it's popular to interpret him as the TeamMom to Gladio's TeamDad. However in fanfiction this is warped into him becoming a ''literal'' housewife or mother figure to the other characters (despite being no more than two years older than Noctis and Prompto), Prompto) who is in constant need of protection [[spoiler:especially after he's blinded]], even though he can be he's portrayed as a highly trained and headstrong fighter who is quite firm assertive with the others when they step out of line, their own feelings be damned.
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