History Main / WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell

2nd Sep '16 9:06:55 PM JulianLapostat
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* The failure of the Soviet Union, the revelation that socialist economies did not lead to prosperity, and the unveilling of communist atrocities discredited many on the left. Bereft of funding and surreptitious support from their former allies, the Far Left withered and died, and parties shifted towards liberal capitalism.

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* The failure And the most telling result of the Soviet Union, fall of Communism, for the revelation that socialist economies did not lead to prosperity, and the unveilling of communist atrocities discredited many on the left. Bereft of funding and surreptitious support from their former allies, the Far Left withered and died, and parties shifted West, has been a dramatic shift towards liberal capitalism.capitalism and a narrowing of the political landscape; "socialist" and "labour" parties now stand for centrist free-market policy, and governments that think to institute policies of wealth redistribution or fund social welfare are branded as "radical". Such a lack of pluralism can be considered to have weakened post-cold war democracy.
16th Aug '16 11:42:46 PM TitaniumDragon
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* And the most telling result of the fall of Communism, for the West, has been a dramatic shift towards liberal capitalism and a narrowing of the political landscape; "socialist" and "labour" parties now stand for centrist free-market policy, and governments that think to institute policies of wealth redistribution or fund social welfare are branded as "radical". Such a lack of pluralism can be considered to have weakened post-cold war democracy.

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* And the most telling result The failure of the fall of Communism, for Soviet Union, the West, has been a dramatic shift revelation that socialist economies did not lead to prosperity, and the unveilling of communist atrocities discredited many on the left. Bereft of funding and surreptitious support from their former allies, the Far Left withered and died, and parties shifted towards liberal capitalism and a narrowing of the political landscape; "socialist" and "labour" parties now stand for centrist free-market policy, and governments that think to institute policies of wealth redistribution or fund social welfare are branded as "radical". Such a lack of pluralism can be considered to have weakened post-cold war democracy.capitalism.
7th Aug '16 6:27:10 PM Morgenthaler
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*** On the other hand, from the perspective of politics and freedom, the ex-Communist states of Europe (save UsefulNotes/{{Belarus}}) are way nicer to live than the Central Asian ex-republics and even Russia itself (though it's debatable). Not for nothing were the Baltics, Bulgaria, Romania and Croatia admitted to the EU. The Caucasus is more of a mixed bag, with Armenia and Georgia being not unlike their neighbor (and age-old enemy) Turkey in many senses (including politics, albeit without the [[TurksWithTroops military's]] political role), while Azerbaijan is an economically-successful political clusterfuck (that's what happens when you're a main battleground between Turkey and Iran for influence.)

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*** On the other hand, from the perspective of politics and freedom, the ex-Communist states of Europe (save UsefulNotes/{{Belarus}}) are way nicer to live than the Central Asian ex-republics and even Russia itself (though it's debatable). Not for nothing were the Baltics, Bulgaria, Romania and Croatia admitted to the EU. The Caucasus is more of a mixed bag, with Armenia and Georgia being not unlike their neighbor (and age-old enemy) Turkey in many senses (including politics, albeit without the [[TurksWithTroops [[UsefulNotes/TurksWithTroops military's]] political role), while Azerbaijan is an economically-successful political clusterfuck (that's what happens when you're a main battleground between Turkey and Iran for influence.)
1st Aug '16 8:01:42 PM Willbyr
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Compare MakeTheBearAngryAgain, TheNewRussia.

Contrast RedScare, TheGreatPoliticsMessUp.

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Compare MakeTheBearAngryAgain, TheNewRussia.

TheNewRussia. Contrast RedScare, TheGreatPoliticsMessUp.






* The BigBad of ''PhantomOfInferno'' used to brainwash people for the Stasi and KGB. When the Cold War ended, he picked up the protagonists and brainwashed them to be hired guns.

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* The BigBad of ''PhantomOfInferno'' ''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno'' used to brainwash people for the Stasi and KGB. When the Cold War ended, he picked up the protagonists and brainwashed them to be hired guns.
9th Jul '16 3:07:06 PM jameygamer
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9th Jul '16 3:05:22 PM jameygamer
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* Many citizens of old Soviet bloc countries miss Communism: because it's what they knew; [[GloryDays because they were important back then]]; or, indeed -- surprisingly enough for a Western reader -- because they were more prosperous then than they are now (some others do not miss Communism regardless, though).

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* Many citizens of old Soviet bloc countries miss Communism: because it's what they knew; [[GloryDays because they were important back then]]; or, indeed -- surprisingly enough for a Western reader -- because they were more prosperous then than they are now (some others from countries such as Hungary and Slovenia do not miss Communism regardless, though).



** This is in part due to the fact that most communist countries, particularly those that broke off from the Soviet Union suffered a major depression after the overthrow of their communist governments (caused partly by disruption of the formerly established economic ties for Cuba, for example, much of its revenue was due to export of sugar and tobacco to the USSR). While many (Poland, Hungary, the Baltics) saw some modest improvements following the turn of the century, others (Ukraine, Moldova, Central Asia) still haven't reached the GDP they had in the Soviet era -- even now, twenty years later.

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** This is in part due to the fact that most communist countries, particularly those that broke off from the Soviet Union suffered a major depression after the overthrow of their communist governments (caused partly by disruption of the formerly established economic ties for Cuba, for example, much of its revenue was due to export of sugar and tobacco to the USSR). While many (Poland, Hungary, the Baltics) saw some modest modest-to-decent improvements following the turn of the century, others (Ukraine, Moldova, Central Asia) still haven't reached the GDP they had in the Soviet era -- even now, twenty years later.
30th Jun '16 2:44:08 AM DeepRed
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** '''#9''': Is YakovSmirnoff out of a job?

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** '''#9''': Is YakovSmirnoff [[RussianReversal Yakov Smirnoff]] out of a job?
30th Jun '16 2:35:42 AM DeepRed
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* A common quote misattributed to UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin: "[[BeamMeUpScotty Whoever doesn't miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain.]]"

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* A common quote misattributed [[BeamMeUpScotty misattributed]] to UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin: "[[BeamMeUpScotty Whoever doesn't miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain.]]"
21st Jun '16 10:01:01 PM jameygamer
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* Many citizens of old Soviet bloc countries miss Communism: because it's what they knew; [[GloryDays because they were important back then]]; or, indeed -- surprisingly enough for a Western reader -- because they were more prosperous then than they are now.

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* Many citizens of old Soviet bloc countries miss Communism: because it's what they knew; [[GloryDays because they were important back then]]; or, indeed -- surprisingly enough for a Western reader -- because they were more prosperous then than they are now.now (some others do not miss Communism regardless, though).
16th Jun '16 6:57:32 AM Millenia
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** Bitterness towards the unification and its aftermath is rather widespread in East Germany. It's not that people miss Stasi and a one-party system, but many citizens of the old DDR feel that their entire world up until 1989 have been written of as a oppressive failure by a new ruling elite that insists that they are supposed to be thankful for being let in again.

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** Bitterness towards the unification and its aftermath is rather widespread in East Germany. It's not that people miss Stasi and a one-party system, but many citizens of the old DDR feel that their entire world up until 1989 have been written of off as a oppressive failure by a new ruling elite that insists that they are supposed to be thankful for being let in again.
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