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11th May '16 12:39:03 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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-> ''Once, all the mice agreed that life would be better if the cat wore a bell to warn of his coming--until a wise old mouse asked, "[[TropeNamer Who will bell the cat]]?"''[[note]]In RealLife, cats can learn to stalk without ringing the bell, but the fable (and by extension, the general premise) hasn't died.[[/note]]

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-> %%-> ''Once, all the mice agreed that life would be better if the cat wore a bell to warn of his coming--until a wise old mouse asked, "[[TropeNamer Who will bell the cat]]?"''[[note]]In RealLife, cats can learn to stalk without ringing the bell, but the fable (and by extension, the general premise) hasn't died.[[/note]]
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8th May '16 12:08:08 PM ReaderAt2046
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* {{Invoked}} by [[Literature/HonorHarrington Her Modesty Berry Zilwicki]] when she has to leave her boyfriend behind to run the government in her absence (she needs to bring most of her Cabinet with her) and it's pointed out that this might provoke some protests, given that he doesn't actually have any kind of government position.
-->'''Berry:''' The law says I can order one person exiled every year, right? Totally at my discretion? No appeals, no arguments, no ifs, ands, or buts. I am correct, am I not?
-->'''Prime Minister DuHavel:''' Yes, Your Majesty.
-->'''Berry:''' Fine. Spread the word far and wide--have it announced on all the news stations, hire people to shout it from the rooftops--that the first jackass who questions Hugh's right to run the show while we're gone is immediately exiled.
26th Apr '16 3:46:25 PM GMon
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* After the death of Pope Nicholas IV in 1292, the deliberating cardinals [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_election,_1292%E2%80%931294 took over two years to choose a successor]]. A pious hermit named Pierro de Morrone sent the cardinals a letter warning that [[BoltOfDivineRetribution God would punish them]] if they didn't get the job done. They responded by electing ''him'' Pope, much to his dismay. After initially trying to refuse, he accepted the Papacy (as Celestine V), only to resign five months later.

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* After the death of Pope Nicholas IV in 1292, the deliberating cardinals [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_election,_1292%E2%80%931294 org/wiki/Papal_election,_1292–94 took over two years to choose a successor]]. A pious hermit named Pierro de Morrone sent the cardinals a letter warning that [[BoltOfDivineRetribution God would punish them]] if they didn't get the job done. They responded by electing ''him'' Pope, much to his dismay. After initially trying to refuse, he accepted the Papacy (as Celestine V), only to resign five months later.
1st Apr '16 2:57:37 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic'', a group of men from a mob approach Cohen the Barbarian and one of them tells him to surrender, as he says Cohen can't kill them all. Cohen replies, "Perhaps so, but '''you''' will be dead." The group suddenly decides that someone else can deal with Cohen.

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'':
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In ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic'', a group of men from a mob approach Cohen the Barbarian and one of them tells him to surrender, as he says Cohen can't kill them all. Cohen replies, "Perhaps so, but '''you''' will be dead." The group suddenly decides that someone else can deal with Cohen.



** In another Pratchett work, the ''Literature/NomesTrilogy'', a PowderKegCrowd of nomes talk about getting revenge on humans by torturing a captive human. Grimma stops them by asking individuals suggesting tortures to do it themselves. "Well I didn't mean ''me''..."

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** * In another Pratchett work, the ''Literature/NomesTrilogy'', a PowderKegCrowd of nomes talk about getting revenge on humans by torturing a captive human. Grimma stops them by asking individuals suggesting tortures to do it themselves. "Well I didn't mean ''me''..."
2nd Mar '16 4:47:22 PM johnsmithxxi
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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': If a favor or a request for additional funds is to be made at Madison High School . . . it is Miss Brooks who is inevitably nominated to convey the demand to Principal Conklin. The episodes "Blue Goldfish" and "Stretch is in Love Again" are cases in point.
27th Jan '16 12:31:57 PM Piando
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* When the Comicbook/FantasticFour testified before Congress about the SuperRegistrationAct, Johnny said he'd like to see someone registering Doctor Doom -- from a suitable distance, like a few countries away.

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* When the Comicbook/FantasticFour testified before Congress about the SuperRegistrationAct, Johnny said he'd like to see someone registering Doctor Doom SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom -- from a suitable distance, like a few countries away.



** The fact that said prisoner is none other than ''[[Film/{{Friday}} Debo]] himself'' also makes it a CrowningMomentOfAwesome.

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** The fact that said prisoner is none other than ''[[Film/{{Friday}} Debo]] himself'' also makes it a CrowningMomentOfAwesome.SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome.



* {{Invoked}} by {{Satan}} in one episode of ''Radio/OldHarrysGame'' to quash a demonic coup d'état. Satan points out to them that, while he could easily kill any one of them individually, if the rebels were to all attack him at once they could probably weaken him enough that the second half would survive. No one is particularly eager to be in the first half.

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* {{Invoked}} {{Invoked|Trope}} by {{Satan}} in one episode of ''Radio/OldHarrysGame'' to quash a demonic coup d'état. Satan points out to them that, while he could easily kill any one of them individually, if the rebels were to all attack him at once they could probably weaken him enough that the second half would survive. No one is particularly eager to be in the first half.



* Many of {{Jesus}}'s teachings in the Bible operate in this way, often with his rivals trying to trap him into supporting an unpopular cause or betray a possible hypocrisy in his teachings, only for Jesus to then turn it back on them in this fashion. In one example, the Pharisees drag an adulterous woman before him and inform him that the law requires her to be stoned to death, intending to trap him out. Jesus responds with "[[ShamingTheMob let he who is without sin cast the first stone]]"; since, of course, everyone eagerly demanding the woman's death are themselves guilty of sins that just haven't been publicly exposed, everyone knows it, and to step up to be the first to throw stones would be to expose themselves as a {{hypocrite}} or worse, no one is willing to go first.

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* Many of {{Jesus}}'s teachings in the Bible Literature/TheBible operate in this way, often with his rivals trying to trap him into supporting an unpopular cause or betray a possible hypocrisy in his teachings, only for Jesus to then turn it back on them in this fashion. In one example, the Pharisees drag an adulterous woman before him and inform him that the law requires her to be stoned to death, intending to trap him out. Jesus responds with "[[ShamingTheMob let he who is without sin cast the first stone]]"; since, of course, everyone eagerly demanding the woman's death are themselves guilty of sins that just haven't been publicly exposed, everyone knows it, and to step up to be the first to throw stones would be to expose themselves as a {{hypocrite}} or worse, no one is willing to go first.
16th Jan '16 10:43:29 PM TARINunit9
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-> ''Once, all the mice agreed that life would be better if the cat wore a bell to warn of his coming--until a wise old mouse asked, "[[TropeNamer Who will bell the cat]]?"''[[note]]In RealLife, cats learn to stalk without ringing the bell, but the fable (and by extension, the general premise) hasn't died.[[/note]]

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-> ''Once, all the mice agreed that life would be better if the cat wore a bell to warn of his coming--until a wise old mouse asked, "[[TropeNamer Who will bell the cat]]?"''[[note]]In RealLife, cats can learn to stalk without ringing the bell, but the fable (and by extension, the general premise) hasn't died.[[/note]]
9th Jan '16 9:32:43 PM Chariset
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Compare AndThenWhat. Contrast JustEatGilligan, where a simple action which would resolve the plot is not carried out because [[IdiotPlot no one thinks of it.]] Also contrast MoreHeroThanThou, LeastIsFirst and SomeoneHasToDie.

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Compare AndThenWhat. Contrast JustEatGilligan, where a simple action which would resolve the plot is not carried out because [[IdiotPlot no one thinks of it.]] Also contrast MoreHeroThanThou, LeastIsFirst and SomeoneHasToDie.
SomeoneHasToDie. OriginalPositionFallacy is a related trope where the mouse who agrees that the cat should be belled likes the idea because he assumes ''he'' won't be the one who has to do it.
8th Jan '16 8:52:58 AM Willbyr
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* In the Israeli short story collection ''[[https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%90%D7%91%D7%95-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%A8 Abu Nimer Stories]]'' (link in Hebrew), which may or [[BasedOnAGreatBigLie may not]] be a collection of folk stories told by [[TheStoryteller an old Arab from Jaffa]] to the compiler(/writer), features a variation of the story, in which a fox is the one who offers the plan in exchange for a reward, and when the mice ask how to hang the bell he claims it’s ‘just a technicality’. When he asks for the reward, the mice point out a large [[BlessedAreTheCheesemakers chunk of delicious cheese]] on a shelf the fox can’t reach; when he asks how he’s supposed to reach it, they [[IronicEcho claim it’s ‘just a technicality’]].

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* In the Israeli short story collection ''[[https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%90%D7%91%D7%95-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%A8 Abu Nimer Stories]]'' (link in Hebrew), which may or [[BasedOnAGreatBigLie may not]] be a collection of folk stories told by [[TheStoryteller an old Arab from Jaffa]] to the compiler(/writer), features a variation of the story, in which a fox is the one who offers the plan in exchange for a reward, and when the mice ask how to hang the bell he claims it’s ‘just a technicality’. When he asks for the reward, the mice point out a large [[BlessedAreTheCheesemakers chunk of delicious cheese]] cheese on a shelf the fox can’t reach; when he asks how he’s supposed to reach it, they [[IronicEcho claim it’s ‘just a technicality’]].


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28th Dec '15 11:11:04 AM Anddrix
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* When the Comicbook/FantasticFour testified before Congress about the SuperRegistrationAct, Johnny said he'd like to see someone registering DoctorDoom -- from a suitable distance, like a few countries away.

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* When the Comicbook/FantasticFour testified before Congress about the SuperRegistrationAct, Johnny said he'd like to see someone registering DoctorDoom Doctor Doom -- from a suitable distance, like a few countries away.
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