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25th Jun '17 2:58:21 AM eroock
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-> ''Once, all the mice agreed that life would be better if the cat wore a bell to warn of his coming--until a wise old mouse asked, "Who will bell the cat?"''[[note]]In RealLife, cats can learn to stalk without ringing the bell, but the fable (and by extension, the general premise) hasn't died.[[/note]]

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-> ''Once, ->''"Once, all the mice agreed that life would be better if the cat wore a bell to warn of his coming--until a wise old mouse asked, "Who will bell the cat?"''[[note]]In RealLife, cats can learn to stalk without ringing the bell, but the fable (and by extension, the general premise) hasn't died.[[/note]] "[[/note]]
6th Jun '17 9:41:18 AM WillKeaton
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* After the death of Pope Nicholas IV in 1292, the deliberating cardinals [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_election,_129294 took over two years to choose a successor]]. A pious hermit named Pierro de Morrone sent the cardinals a letter warning that [[BoltOfDivineRetribution God would punish them]] if they didn't get the job done. They responded by electing ''him'' Pope, much to his dismay. After initially trying to refuse, he accepted the Papacy (as Celestine V), only to resign five months later.

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* After the death of Pope Nicholas IV in 1292, the deliberating cardinals [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_election,_129294 took over two years to choose a successor]]. successor.]] A pious hermit named Pierro de Morrone sent the cardinals a letter warning that [[BoltOfDivineRetribution God would punish them]] if they didn't get the job done. They responded by electing ''him'' Pope, much to his dismay. After initially trying to refuse, he accepted the Papacy (as Celestine V), only to resign five months later.
6th Jun '17 9:38:28 AM WillKeaton
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Compare AndThenWhat. Contrast JustEatGilligan, where a simple action which would resolve the plot is not carried out because [[IdiotPlot no one thinks of it.]] Also contrast MoreHeroThanThou, LeastIsFirst and SomeoneHasToDie. OriginalPositionFallacy is a related trope where the mouse who agrees that the cat should be belled likes the idea because he assumes ''he'' won't be the one who has to do it.

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Compare AndThenWhat. AndThenWhat Contrast JustEatGilligan, where a simple action which would resolve the plot is not carried out because [[IdiotPlot no one thinks of it.]] Also contrast MoreHeroThanThou, LeastIsFirst and SomeoneHasToDie. OriginalPositionFallacy is a related trope where the mouse who agrees that the cat should be belled likes the idea because he assumes ''he'' won't be the one who has to do it.
7th Apr '17 2:25:28 PM DustSnitch
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* It's fairky common in Literature/TheFourGospel for the enemies of UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} to try to trap Him into supporting an unpopular cause or betray a possible hypocrisy in his teachings, only for Jesus to point out how unwilling they are to act on their words. In one example, the Pharisees drag an adulterous woman before him and inform Him that the law requires her to be stoned to death, intending to trap Him out. Jesus responds with "[[ShamingTheMob Let he who is without sin cast the first stone]]"; since, of course, everyone eagerly demanding the woman's death are themselves guilty of sins that just haven't been publicly exposed, everyone knows it, and to step up to be the first to throw stones would be to expose themselves as a {{hypocrite}} or worse, no one is willing to go first.

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* It's fairky fairly common in Literature/TheFourGospel Literature/TheFourGospels for the enemies of UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} to try to trap Him into supporting an unpopular cause or betray a possible hypocrisy in his teachings, only for Jesus to point out how unwilling they are to act on their words. In one example, the Pharisees drag an adulterous woman before him and inform Him that the law requires her to be stoned to death, intending to trap Him out. Jesus responds with "[[ShamingTheMob Let he who is without sin cast the first stone]]"; since, of course, everyone eagerly demanding the woman's death are themselves guilty of sins that just haven't been publicly exposed, everyone knows it, and to step up to be the first to throw stones would be to expose themselves as a {{hypocrite}} or worse, no one is willing to go first.
7th Apr '17 2:24:50 PM DustSnitch
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* Many of {{Jesus}}'s teachings in Literature/TheBible operate in this way, often with his rivals trying to trap him into supporting an unpopular cause or betray a possible hypocrisy in his teachings, only for Jesus to then turn it back on them in this fashion. In one example, the Pharisees drag an adulterous woman before him and inform him that the law requires her to be stoned to death, intending to trap him out. Jesus responds with "[[ShamingTheMob let he who is without sin cast the first stone]]"; since, of course, everyone eagerly demanding the woman's death are themselves guilty of sins that just haven't been publicly exposed, everyone knows it, and to step up to be the first to throw stones would be to expose themselves as a {{hypocrite}} or worse, no one is willing to go first.
** An old joke subverts this; Jesus says the line, only for a stone to fly out of the crowd and bean the woman. Cue an embarrassed Jesus saying, ''"Mom!"'' [[note]]Roman Catholic tradition states that Mary is the one human in history clean of any sin, even original sin.[[/note]]

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* Many It's fairky common in Literature/TheFourGospel for the enemies of {{Jesus}}'s teachings in Literature/TheBible operate in this way, often with his rivals trying UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} to try to trap him Him into supporting an unpopular cause or betray a possible hypocrisy in his teachings, only for Jesus to then turn it back point out how unwilling they are to act on them in this fashion. their words. In one example, the Pharisees drag an adulterous woman before him and inform him Him that the law requires her to be stoned to death, intending to trap him Him out. Jesus responds with "[[ShamingTheMob let Let he who is without sin cast the first stone]]"; since, of course, everyone eagerly demanding the woman's death are themselves guilty of sins that just haven't been publicly exposed, everyone knows it, and to step up to be the first to throw stones would be to expose themselves as a {{hypocrite}} or worse, no one is willing to go first.
** An old joke subverts this; Jesus says the line, only for a stone to fly out of the crowd and bean the woman. Cue an embarrassed Jesus saying, ''"Mom!"'' [[note]]Roman Catholic tradition states that Mary is the one human in history clean of any sin, even original sin.sin, besides Jesus and the first couple until those two Fell.[[/note]]
3rd Apr '17 5:15:21 PM CheeseDogX
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* In the early days of the United States of America, just after securing their independence, it was suggested that this trope be codified into law when it came to declarations of war: any legislator who voted to go to war with another nation would, if the vote succeeded, also automatically volunteer himself for military service in said war. This idea did not pan out, and was never put into law.

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* In the early days of the United States of America, just after securing their independence, it was suggested that this trope be codified into law when it came to declarations of war: any legislator who voted to go to war with another nation would, if the vote succeeded, also automatically volunteer himself for military service in said war. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen This idea did not pan out, and was never put into law.law]].
3rd Apr '17 5:05:41 PM CheeseDogX
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** A cat gets belled almost every episode. One of the recurring themes of the show (deliberately, by WordOfGod) is that there are mice who bell cats. In the final confrontation with the Shadows, [[spoiler: the best way to lure them into a trap is to "let" them steal the trap's location from the wreckage of a defeated warship. Who will fight a known hopeless battle just so the enemy can pick over their corpse properly?]] The One gives the order, a ranger obeys it, the cat gets belled.

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** A cat gets belled almost every episode. One of the recurring themes of the show (deliberately, by WordOfGod) is that there are mice who bell cats. In the final confrontation with the Shadows, [[spoiler: the best way to lure them into a trap is to "let" them steal the trap's location from the wreckage of a defeated warship. Who will fight a known hopeless battle just so the enemy can pick over their corpse properly?]] The One gives the order, a ranger Ranger obeys it, the cat gets belled.belled. And yes, the Ranger knows exactly what's being asked of him.
22nd Mar '17 11:31:55 AM DarkHunter
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* In the early days of the United States of America, just after securing their independence, it was suggested that this trope be codified into law when it came to declarations of war: any legislator who voted to go to war with another nation would, if the vote succeeded, also automatically volunteer himself for military service in said war. This idea did not pan out, and was never put into law.
17th Mar '17 6:35:39 PM eroock
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-->--Aesop

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15th Mar '17 9:31:47 PM FullmetalHeart20
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* Occurs in the pro-mage ending, too. A small army of Templars arrive after you just killed Knight-Commander Meredith. They back up in fear.
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