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25th May '17 6:53:24 PM PaulA
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* The subject of an anti-McCarthyism song by Harold Rome: "Who’s gonna investigate the man who investigates the man who investigates me?"

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* The subject of an anti-McCarthyism anti-[[UsefulNotes/JosephMcCarthy McCarthyism]] song by Harold Rome: "Who’s "Who's gonna investigate the man who investigates the man who investigates me?"
2nd May '17 8:41:04 PM Celcey
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* ''WebVideo/DoorMonster'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam0KMyZh2E&index=3&list=PL0u5ZHidq4X4QhFAX9FzSiYJLRen74sLF The Guards Themselves]] is named after this trope. It's fittingly about a group of so-called anarchists who are in actuality trying to take down [[CorruptCorporateExecutive The Oligarchs]] who secretly rule the city.
11th Apr '17 11:45:38 AM AthenaBlue
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': The [[StateSec Imperial Security Bureau]] is responsible for, among other things, rooting out traitors and spies in the Imperial ranks. [[spoiler:So when Agent Kallus has a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a [[ReverseMole Fulcrum informant]], his position as the highest-ranking member of the ISB in the Lothal Sector means that most Imperials wouldn't even ''remotely'' suspect him of being the traitor, even after they find out there ''is'' one. The exception is [[MagnificentBastard Grand Admiral Thrawn]], and even then Kallus manages to go months under Thrawn's eye without being caught, which is far longer than most people could manage.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': The [[StateSec Imperial Security Bureau]] is responsible for, among other things, rooting out traitors and spies in the Imperial ranks. [[spoiler:So when Agent Kallus has a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a [[ReverseMole Fulcrum informant]], his position as the highest-ranking member of the ISB in the Lothal Sector means that most Imperials wouldn't even ''remotely'' suspect him of being the a traitor, even after they find out there ''is'' one. The exception is [[MagnificentBastard Grand Admiral Thrawn]], and even then Kallus manages to go months under Thrawn's eye without being caught, which is far longer than most people could manage.]]
11th Apr '17 11:44:38 AM AthenaBlue
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* The live-action ''Film/{{Thunderbirds}}'' movie used a variant of this as its tagline: "Who will rescue the rescuers?"

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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. The live-action ''Film/{{Thunderbirds}}'' movie used a variant of this as its tagline: "Who will rescue Latin quote is seen graffitied in an abandoned building during the rescuers?"Batman/Superman battle, and in an article critical of Batman branding criminals who are later murdered in jail, [[CopsNeedTheVigilante to which the Gotham police are turning a blind eye]]. An InUniverse theme is whether Superman is accountable to anyone but himself.



* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. The latin quote is seen graffitied in an abandoned building during the Batman/Superman battle, and in an article critical of Batman branding criminals who are later murdered in jail, [[CopsNeedTheVigilante to which the Gotham police are turning a blind eye]]. An InUniverse theme is whether Superman is accountable to anyone but himself.

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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. The latin quote is seen graffitied in an abandoned building during live-action ''Film/{{Thunderbirds}}'' movie used a variant of this as its tagline: "Who will rescue the Batman/Superman battle, and in an article critical of Batman branding criminals who are later murdered in jail, [[CopsNeedTheVigilante to which the Gotham police are turning a blind eye]]. An InUniverse theme is whether Superman is accountable to anyone but himself.rescuers?"



* ''Literature/TheApprenticeRogue'': Artamos's job is to prevent Leona from coming to harm on her way to her wedding. This includes preventing physical harm and threats to her virginity. [[spoiler: In the classical meaning of the phrase, he is the one that has sex with her.]]

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* ''Literature/TheApprenticeRogue'': Artamos's Artamos' job is to prevent Leona from coming to harm on her way to her wedding. This includes preventing physical harm and threats to her virginity. [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In the classical meaning of the phrase, he is the one that has sex with her.]]]]
* In ''Literature/TheAnnalsOfTheChosen'' the role of Wizard Lord was created by the Immortal Council to deal with rogue wizards. Eventually a Wizard Lord went rogue and the Council created the Chosen to deal with any Dark Lords, adding a new Chosen with each defeated Dark Lord. Inevitably the Chosen themselves face this issue when [[spoiler:Farash makes a deal with a Dark Lord]]. In the final novel Sword concludes that with [[TheMagicGoesAway magic fading and wizards almost extinct]] there's no need for a Wizard Lord or Chosen; the people can police themselves.
* In one of the stories in ''Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are?'' by Creator/DrSeuss, the people of the town of Hawtch-Hawtch discover that the town bee works harder and makes more honey if someone watches it. Then they figure that the bee-watcher will do a better job if someone watches him, so they hire a bee-watcher-watcher....



* In ''Watches'' franchise of Sergey Lukyanenko, this is the ''real'' reason why both Night and Day Watches exist. Revelation of Other's existence to humanity will lead to eradication of both Light and Dark Others, as [[spoiler: most of the magic enegy are generated by humanity, while Others consume more than they produce. So, in order to defend humans and Others Watches were created, along with Inquisition to control them.]]

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* In ''Watches'' franchise of Sergey Lukyanenko, this is the ''real'' reason why both Night ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, the People's Republic of Haven employs Internal Security (during the Harris regime) and Day Watches exist. Revelation StateSec (after the Comittee for Public Safety takes power) as a means of Other's existence to humanity will lead to eradication of both Light monitoring for dissidents and Dark Others, as [[spoiler: most of disloyalty. Notably, StateSec officers fill the magic enegy are generated by humanity, while Others consume more than they produce. So, roles of PoliticalOfficer and PraetorianGuard in order to defend humans and Others Watches were created, along with Inquisition keep the Navy from turning on their government. Both governments fall in part due to control them.]] supposedly loyal agents in their own ranks turning on them for various reasons while in positions that made them above suspicion.



-->"He drove through the main gate just four minutes before the sirens started going off and we sealed off the whole base. And no one started looking for him until nearly an hour later because there are no monitors in the security posts--somewhere along the line you have to stop guarding the guardians or everyone in the world would be a goddamn turnkey...."

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-->"He drove through the main gate just four minutes before the sirens started going off and we sealed off the whole base. And no one started looking for him until nearly an hour later because there are no monitors in the security posts--somewhere posts -- somewhere along the line you have to stop guarding the guardians or everyone in the world would be a goddamn turnkey...."turnkey..."
* In ''Literature/TrunkMusic'', an exchange between Bosch and InternalAffairs Detective Chastain ends with the two of them arguing over this trope.
-->'''Chastain:''' ...if there is no one to police the police then there is no one to keep the abuse of their wide powers in check.\\
'''Bosch:''' Let me ask you this, Chastain. Who polices the police who police the police?



* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, the People's Republic of Haven employs Internal Security (during the Harris regime) and StateSec (after the Comittee for Public Safety takes power) as a means of monitoring for dissidents and disloyalty. Notably, StateSec officers fill the roles of PoliticalOfficer and PraetorianGuard in order to keep the Navy from turning on their government. Both governments fall in part due to supposedly loyal agents in their own ranks turning on them for various reasons while in positions that made them above suspicion.
* In one of the stories in ''Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are?'' by Creator/DrSeuss, the people of the town of Hawtch-Hawtch discover that the town bee works harder and makes more honey if someone watches it. Then they figure that the bee-watcher will do a better job if someone watches him, so they hire a bee-watcher-watcher....
* In ''Literature/TrunkMusic'', an exchange between Bosch and InternalAffairs Detective Chastain ends with the two of them arguing over this trope.
-->'''Chastain:''' ...if there is no one to police the police then there is no one to keep the abuse of their wide powers in check.\\
'''Bosch:''' Let me ask you this, Chastain. Who polices the police who police the police?
* In ''Literature/TheAnnalsOfTheChosen'' the role of Wizard Lord was created by the Immortal Council to deal with rogue wizards. Eventually a Wizard Lord went rogue and the Council created the Chosen to deal with any Dark Lords, adding a new Chosen with each defeated Dark Lord. Inevitably the Chosen themselves face this issue when [[spoiler:Farash makes a deal with a Dark Lord]]. In the final novel Sword concludes that with [[TheMagicGoesAway magic fading and wizards almost extinct]] there's no need for a Wizard Lord or Chosen; the people can police themselves.

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* In ''Watches'' franchise of Sergey Lukyanenko, this is the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, ''real'' reason why both Night and Day Watches exist. Revelation of Other's existence to humanity will lead to eradication of both Light and Dark Others, as [[spoiler: most of the People's Republic of Haven employs Internal Security (during the Harris regime) and StateSec (after the Comittee for Public Safety takes power) as a means of monitoring for dissidents and disloyalty. Notably, StateSec officers fill the roles of PoliticalOfficer and PraetorianGuard magic enegy are generated by humanity, while Others consume more than they produce. So, in order to keep the Navy from turning on their government. Both governments fall in part due to supposedly loyal agents in their own ranks turning on them for various reasons while in positions that made them above suspicion.
* In one of the stories in ''Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are?'' by Creator/DrSeuss, the people of the town of Hawtch-Hawtch discover that the town bee works harder
defend humans and makes more honey if someone watches it. Then they figure that the bee-watcher will do a better job if someone watches him, so they hire a bee-watcher-watcher....
* In ''Literature/TrunkMusic'', an exchange between Bosch and InternalAffairs Detective Chastain ends
Others Watches were created, along with the two of them arguing over this trope.
-->'''Chastain:''' ...if there is no one
Inquisition to police the police then there is no one to keep the abuse of their wide powers in check.\\
'''Bosch:''' Let me ask you this, Chastain. Who polices the police who police the police?
* In ''Literature/TheAnnalsOfTheChosen'' the role of Wizard Lord was created by the Immortal Council to deal with rogue wizards. Eventually a Wizard Lord went rogue and the Council created the Chosen to deal with any Dark Lords, adding a new Chosen with each defeated Dark Lord. Inevitably the Chosen themselves face this issue when [[spoiler:Farash makes a deal with a Dark Lord]]. In the final novel Sword concludes that with [[TheMagicGoesAway magic fading and wizards almost extinct]] there's no need for a Wizard Lord or Chosen; the people can police themselves.
control them.]]



* An episode of ''Series/SpaceAboveAndBeyond'', called ''Who Monitors The Birds?'' focused on an [[ArtificialHuman InVitro]] Marine going about on some special mission, while his childhood (such as it was; [=InVitros=] are born fully-grown) was explored via FlashBack. Every action they take during their training is supervised by a group of humans known as "Monitors", who [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin monitor]] them for undesirable tendencies and traits. At one point, he asks of a Monitor: "[[TitleDrop Who monitors the birds?]]" and the monitor responded with "[[BlatantLies I monitor the birds.]]" Then he asks "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion Who monitors you?]]" This question is taken as indication that he lacks the proper blind obedience to continue his training and should be euthanized. (He escapes, then later ends up in the Marines anyway by different means).

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* An episode of ''Series/SpaceAboveAndBeyond'', called ''Who "Who Monitors The Birds?'' Birds?" focused on an [[ArtificialHuman InVitro]] Marine going about on some special mission, while his childhood (such as it was; [=InVitros=] are born fully-grown) was explored via FlashBack. Every action they take during their training is supervised by a group of humans known as "Monitors", who [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin monitor]] them for undesirable tendencies and traits. At one point, he asks of a Monitor: "[[TitleDrop Who monitors the birds?]]" and the monitor responded with "[[BlatantLies I monitor the birds.]]" Then he asks "[[ArmorPiercingQuestion Who monitors you?]]" This question is taken as indication that he lacks the proper blind obedience to continue his training and should be euthanized. (He escapes, then later ends up in the Marines anyway by different means).



* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': The [[StateSec Imperial Security Bureau]] is responsible for, among other things, rooting out traitors in the Imperial ranks. [[spoiler:So when Agent Kallus has a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a [[ReverseMole Fulcrum informant]], his position as the highest-ranking member of the ISB in the Lothal Sector means that most Imperials wouldn't even ''remotely'' suspect him of being the traitor, even after they find out there ''is'' one. The exception is [[MagnificentBastard Grand Admiral Thrawn]], and even then Kallus manages to go months under Thrawn's eye without being caught, which is far longer than most people would manage.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': The [[StateSec Imperial Security Bureau]] is responsible for, among other things, rooting out traitors and spies in the Imperial ranks. [[spoiler:So when Agent Kallus has a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a [[ReverseMole Fulcrum informant]], his position as the highest-ranking member of the ISB in the Lothal Sector means that most Imperials wouldn't even ''remotely'' suspect him of being the traitor, even after they find out there ''is'' one. The exception is [[MagnificentBastard Grand Admiral Thrawn]], and even then Kallus manages to go months under Thrawn's eye without being caught, which is far longer than most people would could manage.]]
8th Apr '17 6:47:30 PM AthenaBlue
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-->'''Batman''': Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
-->'''Green Arrow''': "Who guards the guardians?" We got it covered.

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-->'''Batman''': -->'''Batman:''' Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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custodes?\\
'''Green Arrow:'''
"Who guards the guardians?" We got it covered.


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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': The [[StateSec Imperial Security Bureau]] is responsible for, among other things, rooting out traitors in the Imperial ranks. [[spoiler:So when Agent Kallus has a HeelFaceTurn and becomes a [[ReverseMole Fulcrum informant]], his position as the highest-ranking member of the ISB in the Lothal Sector means that most Imperials wouldn't even ''remotely'' suspect him of being the traitor, even after they find out there ''is'' one. The exception is [[MagnificentBastard Grand Admiral Thrawn]], and even then Kallus manages to go months under Thrawn's eye without being caught, which is far longer than most people would manage.]]


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10th Jan '17 6:55:12 PM nombretomado
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* Discussed in the LoadingReadyRun sketch [[http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/421/Watchmen-Watching Watchmen Watching]]. [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} The Watchmen]] are watched by the Neighborhood Watchmen Watching Organization, who are in turn watched by the Watching the Neighborhood Watchmen Watching Organization Organization, who are watched by a guy named Jeff, who is watched by someone in the background.

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* Discussed in the LoadingReadyRun WebVideo/LoadingReadyRun sketch [[http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/421/Watchmen-Watching Watchmen Watching]]. [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} The Watchmen]] are watched by the Neighborhood Watchmen Watching Organization, who are in turn watched by the Watching the Neighborhood Watchmen Watching Organization Organization, who are watched by a guy named Jeff, who is watched by someone in the background.
13th Oct '16 10:42:59 PM TSBasilisk
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* In ''Literature/TheAnnalsOfTheChosen'' the role of Wizard Lord was created by the Immortal Council to deal with rogue wizards. Eventually a Wizard Lord went rogue and the Council created the Chosen to deal with any Dark Lords, adding a new Chosen with each defeated Dark Lord. Inevitably the Chosen themselves face this issue when [[spoiler:Farash makes a deal with a Dark Lord]]. In the final novel Sword concludes that with [[TheMagicGoesAway magic fading and wizards almost extinct]] there's no need for a Wizard Lord or Chosen; the people can police themselves.
30th Sep '16 12:11:23 AM PaulA
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* In ''[[Creator/MichaelConnelly Trunk Music]]'', an exchange between Bosch and [[InternalAffairs IA Detective Chastain]] ends with the two of them arguing over this trope.
-->'''Chastain''': ...if there is no one to police the police then there is no one to keep the abuse of their wide powers in check.\\
'''Bosch''': Let me ask you this, Chastain. Who polices the police who police the police?

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* In ''[[Creator/MichaelConnelly Trunk Music]]'', ''Literature/TrunkMusic'', an exchange between Bosch and [[InternalAffairs IA InternalAffairs Detective Chastain]] Chastain ends with the two of them arguing over this trope.
-->'''Chastain''': ...-->'''Chastain:''' ...if there is no one to police the police then there is no one to keep the abuse of their wide powers in check.\\
'''Bosch''': '''Bosch:''' Let me ask you this, Chastain. Who polices the police who police the police?
23rd Aug '16 2:26:45 AM JackG
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* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. The latin quote is seen graffitied in an abandoned building during the Batman/Superman battle, and in an article critical of Batman branding criminals who are later murdered in jail, [[CopsNeedTheVigilante to which the Gotham police are turning a blind eye]]. An InUniverse theme is whether Superman is accountable to anyone but himself.
18th Aug '16 8:27:41 PM PaulA
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** In ''Mirror Dance'', Mark wonders who psychoanalyzes Cordelia, who psychoanalyzes everyone, pondering "Who shaves the barber?" He later gets his answer: [[spoiler: Emperor Gregor]].

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** In ''Mirror Dance'', ''Literature/MirrorDance'', Mark wonders who psychoanalyzes Cordelia, who psychoanalyzes everyone, pondering "Who shaves the barber?" He later gets his answer: [[spoiler: Emperor [[spoiler:Emperor Gregor]].
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