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6th Aug '16 12:17:18 PM CabbitGirlEmi
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* ''Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial'': E.T., the kids, and later, [[spoiler:their parents]] are in the white, and want to help the alien "phone home". Almost every authority figure is in the gray because [[spoiler:they do not want to harm E.T. in any form, but they aren't above bringing out their guns when he and the kids escape]].

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* ''Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial'': E.T., the kids, and later, [[spoiler:their parents]] Keys are in the white, and want to help the alien "phone home". Almost every authority figure other than Keys is in the gray because [[spoiler:they do not want to harm E.T. in any form, but they aren't above bringing out their guns when he and the kids escape]].
4th Aug '16 8:11:43 AM Silverblade2
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* Most [[RomanticComedy romcoms]] probably fall into this category.



* ''Series/{{Kingdom}}''

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19th Jul '16 12:44:19 PM Fangusu
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* Oddly enough, KurtVonnegut states in the introduction to ''Welcome to the Monkey House'' that this is one of the guiding principles of his work: there are no villains, just people with conflicting interests.
** Then again, his characters don't tend to be heroic either. [[GreyAndGreyMorality So...]]
13th Jun '16 11:05:46 AM Kakai
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* In ''Film/WarCraft2016'', with the obvious exception of the BigBad Gul'dan, all major orc characters are shown to have some redeemable qualities, and it's made rather clear they are invading Azeroth because their own world is dying, making their motivations sympathetic. Meanwhile, humans are overall portrayed as unambiguously good and just defending themselves against the Horde's assaults.
22nd May '16 7:50:04 AM firejewel
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** The one exception would be the ''Next Generation''-era Ferengi, who were universally motivated by greed, embodying the worst of capitalism on a show that tended to favor socialist utopias. Ironically, while ''Deep Space Nine'' was overall darker, they pulled the Ferengi into the gray range, even introducing a number of social reforms during their run and having the Alpha Quadrant be saved by a Ferengi.

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** The one exception would be the ''Next Generation''-era Ferengi, who were universally motivated by greed, embodying the worst of capitalism crony-capitalism on a show that tended to favor socialist capitalist utopias. Ironically, while ''Deep Space Nine'' was overall darker, they pulled the Ferengi into the gray range, even introducing a number of social reforms during their run and having the Alpha Quadrant be saved by a Ferengi.
1st May '16 10:10:42 PM Fireblood
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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': Most of the five series heavily favored this trope. The show tended not to have very many truly evil people and the ones that seemed to be would get fleshed out or retconned later to be more sympathetic. Typically most people could be reasoned with and almost everybody was just looking out for their own if they weren't motivated by nobler intentions. ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' skews furthest from this trope with the Federation becoming a bit greyer and the Dominion being darker than is typical of the other series.\\
** The one exception would be the ''Next Generation''-era Ferengi. O were universally motivated by greed, embodying the worst of capitalism on a show that tended to favor socialist utopias. Ironically, while ''Deep Space Nine'' was overall darker, they pulled the Ferengi into the gray range, even introducing a number of social reforms during their run and having the Alpha Quadrant be saved by a Ferengi.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek'': Most of the five series heavily favored this trope. The show tended not to have very many truly evil people and the ones that seemed to be would get fleshed out or retconned later to be more sympathetic. Typically most people could be reasoned with and almost everybody was just looking out for their own if they weren't motivated by nobler intentions. ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' skews furthest from this trope with the Federation becoming a bit greyer and the Dominion being darker than is typical of the other series.\\
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** The one exception would be the ''Next Generation''-era Ferengi. O Ferengi, who were universally motivated by greed, embodying the worst of capitalism on a show that tended to favor socialist utopias. Ironically, while ''Deep Space Nine'' was overall darker, they pulled the Ferengi into the gray range, even introducing a number of social reforms during their run and having the Alpha Quadrant be saved by a Ferengi.



* In ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'' Orel is a genuinely good kid with IncorruptiblePurePureness. While Moralton has many horrible people (including his own parents), lots of them are sympathetic, most of whom have their own FreudianExcuse. His parents both [[GenerationXerox had issues with their own parents]], while Miss Censordoll is pretty awful, she has one of her own [[spoiler:it's hard not to feel bad for her when you learn her mother removed her reproductive system]]. Reverend Putty is a bit cynical and jaded, but he has his own PetTheDog moments in regards to Orel and [[spoiler:his daughter]] Stephanie. Joe's a brat who bullies Orel and beats up kissing boys but he [[spoiler:he's afraid of growing old and didn't know his own mother]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'' Orel is a genuinely good kid with IncorruptiblePurePureness. While Moralton has many horrible people (including his own parents), lots of them are sympathetic, most of whom have their own FreudianExcuse. His parents both [[GenerationXerox had issues with their own parents]], while parents]]. While Miss Censordoll is pretty awful, she has one of her own [[spoiler:it's [[spoiler:(it's hard not to feel bad for her when you learn her mother removed her reproductive system]].system)]]. Reverend Putty is a bit cynical and jaded, but he has his own PetTheDog moments in regards to Orel and [[spoiler:his daughter]] Stephanie. Joe's a brat who bullies Orel and beats up kissing boys but he [[spoiler:he's afraid of growing old and didn't know his own mother]].
1st May '16 9:58:18 PM Fireblood
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* Creator/UrsulaKLeGuin's work tends to feature this; in fifty years of publishing, only one of her stories(''The Word for World Is Forest'') features an character she described as "purely evil"
* [[PlayingWithAtrope Played with]] in the novel ''Literature/MiracleMonday'', where {{Superman}} faced TheDevil's agent on Earth. While the demon ''was'' truly evil (we get to read his thoughts to confirm it) Superman himself holds this belief, and it's ''because'' of it that he ultimately wins.

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* Creator/UrsulaKLeGuin's work tends to feature this; in fifty years of publishing, only one of her stories(''The stories (''The Word for World Is Forest'') features an any character she described as "purely evil"
* [[PlayingWithAtrope Played with]] [{{Played with}} in the novel ''Literature/MiracleMonday'', where {{Superman}} faced TheDevil's agent on Earth. While the demon ''was'' truly evil (we get to read his thoughts to confirm it) Superman himself holds this belief, and it's ''because'' of it that he ultimately wins.
22nd Apr '16 10:25:01 PM aye_amber
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* ''{{Kingdom}}''

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* ''{{Kingdom}}''''Series/{{Kingdom}}''
27th Mar '16 11:22:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ForbiddenPlanet''. Morbius: it implies that even the worst people have good intentions

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* ''ForbiddenPlanet''.''Film/ForbiddenPlanet''. Morbius: it implies that even the worst people have good intentions
21st Mar '16 10:44:51 AM MaulMachine
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** An exception must be noted for Literature/RainbowSix since the villains are VillainProtagonists for about a third of the book, utterly egocentric, and don't hesitate to kill billions at the Olympics. Even the least cynical Rainbows find them bafflingly evil.
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