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22nd Apr '17 5:15:25 PM nombretomado
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* Lino En Kuldes in SuikodenIV

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12th Apr '17 3:02:52 PM jamespolk
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyGrandmotherIronedTheKingsShirts'': King Haakon VII has to carry his own luggage to the palace after being selected as King of Norway, and Haakon has to open the palace door with a key.



** "Schott's Miscellany" includes a description of Presidential meet-and-greets: everybody (from foreign aristocrats to poor folks) gathered in a waiting room, lined up. They would then file through the meeting chamber, shake hands with the President and maybe exchange a few words, and file out. To be clear, there was no vetting process, no verification of why one wanted to meet the President, or what one intended to say to him. President UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley was assassinated during just such an event at the 1901 Pan-American Exposition, and James Garfield was assassinated while walking unguarded into a crowded train station.

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** "Schott's Miscellany" includes a description of Presidential meet-and-greets: everybody (from foreign aristocrats to poor folks) gathered in a waiting room, lined up. They would then file through the meeting chamber, shake hands with the President and maybe exchange a few words, and file out. To be clear, there was no vetting process, no verification of why one wanted to meet the President, or what one intended to say to him. President UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley was assassinated during just such an event at the 1901 Pan-American Exposition, and James Garfield was assassinated while walking unguarded into a crowded train station. In fact, Garfield's assassin had earlier gained entrance to the White House and ''met'' Garfield (he was trying to get a diplomatic post).
11th Apr '17 5:52:04 PM nombretomado
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* In ''ShiningForce'', in one of the towns about halfway through the game, the item and weapon shops are connected to the castle. When you approach them, the King comes running up to stand behind the counter, and says something like "Just because I'm King, doesn't mean I can't make some money!"

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* In ''ShiningForce'', ''VideoGame/ShiningForce'', in one of the towns about halfway through the game, the item and weapon shops are connected to the castle. When you approach them, the King comes running up to stand behind the counter, and says something like "Just because I'm King, doesn't mean I can't make some money!"
19th Mar '17 4:48:53 PM quick78
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** Cleo introduces himself to Queen Aoleon by sticking out his hand. She initially seems taken aback but graciously shakes his hand and introduces herself. And if the wedding scene at the end is correct, she seems to have become downright fond of Cleo.

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** Cleo introduces himself to Queen Aoleon by sticking out his hand. She initially seems taken aback but graciously shakes his hand and introduces herself. And if the wedding [[spoiler:wedding]] scene at the end is correct, she seems to have [[spoiler:have become downright fond of Cleo.Cleo]].
19th Mar '17 4:46:07 PM quick78
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* ''Film/{{Coming To America}}'': The people in Queens, NY behave very familiarly with Prince Akeem's parents. And that's nothing compared to how several people treat Akeem before learning he's a prince.
** One of the men in the barber shop reaches out to stroke the skinned lion that King Jaffe Joffer is wearing as a sash and asks, "What is this, velvet?"
** Cleo introduces himself to Queen Aoleon by sticking out his hand. She initially seems taken aback but graciously shakes his hand and introduces herself. And if the wedding scene at the end is correct, she seems to have become downright fond of Cleo.
** Cleo also repeatedly addresses Jaffe Joffer as simply "King".
--->'''Cleo:''' ''(on the phone)'' Hello, King? Cleo McDowell here.
*** However, he even drops the royal title after Jaffe Joffer insults his daughter.
--->'''Cleo:''' I don't care who you are. This is America, Jack. Say another word about Lisa, and I'll break my foot off in your royal ass!
27th Feb '17 8:13:40 AM Lightice
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** It should be noted that the people allowed into the Palace to see the Patrician aren't simply free to wander into his office. They're shown into a waiting room with very hard benches and the door is locked behind them, leaving them to wait if Vetinari is inclined to see them -- or let them leave.
5th Feb '17 2:49:44 PM LentilSandEater
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* Not so in Morrowind, however. You can try and waltz into the personal quarters of various Great House nobles if you want to, but they will not talk business with you unless you have a reason for bothering this particular noble (i.e. have a letter for them, belong to their House and want to serve them, are sent with a secret diplomatic mission, are a noble too and want to get a land deed from the duke, are the Messiah and want them to acknowledge that, etc). To have business with them, you should have business with their henchmen, hirelings and recruiters in the House Council Halls first. And the god-kings of the Tribunal avert this absolutely; you will not meet one unless they want to meet you (or you're brazen enough to crack the Difficulty 100 lock, in Vivec's case).

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* Not so in Morrowind, ''Videogame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', however. You can try and waltz into the personal quarters of various Great House nobles if you want to, but they will not talk business with you unless you have a reason for bothering this particular noble (i.e. have a letter for them, belong to their House and want to serve them, are sent with a secret diplomatic mission, are a noble too and want to get a land deed from the duke, are the Messiah and want them to acknowledge that, etc). To have business with them, you should have business with their henchmen, hirelings and recruiters in the House Council Halls first. And the god-kings of the Tribunal avert this absolutely; you will not meet one unless they want to meet you (or you're brazen enough to crack the Difficulty 100 lock, in Vivec's case).
5th Feb '17 2:48:57 PM LentilSandEater
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* Played with in the ''Franchise/DragonAge'' games. In the first game you are able to speak to Teyrn Loghain before the Battle of Ostagar, though the easiest way is for you to pick the Human Noble origin and tell the guard that the reason that Loghain should deign to speak to you is because you're the child of the only other Teyrn in Ferelden, Bryce Cousland, who has been killed in a sneak attack on his castle.

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* Played with in the ''Franchise/DragonAge'' games. In the first game you ''Videogame/DragonAgeOrigins'':
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are able to speak to Teyrn Loghain before the Battle of Ostagar, though the easiest way is for you to pick the Human Noble origin and tell the guard that the reason that Loghain should deign to speak to you is because you're the child of the only other Teyrn in Ferelden, Bryce Cousland, who has been killed in a sneak attack on his castle.



** Lampshaded by King Cailan, who mentions driving Loghain insane by constantly disappearing to spend time talking and drinking with the soldiers at Ostagar, with very few guards present to keep an eye on him.
*** [[spoiler: If Alistair becomes King at the Landsmeet, it's mentioned in one of the epilogues that he does the same thing as his half-brother, often sneaking out of the palace to buy everyone a few rounds at the local tavern]].
** It's actually averted pretty neatly in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. While you can wander into the Viscount's Keep whenever you want, you're only allowed to see the Viscount himself when you're called into his chambers. Unless you personally save his son's life in Act 1, you won't meet him until you've made your fortune.

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** Lampshaded Deconstructed by King Cailan, who mentions driving Loghain insane by constantly disappearing to spend time talking and drinking with the soldiers at Ostagar, with very few guards present to keep an eye on him.
*** ** [[spoiler: If Alistair becomes King at the Landsmeet, it's mentioned in one of the epilogues that he does the same thing as his half-brother, often sneaking out of the palace to buy everyone a few rounds at the local tavern]].
** * It's actually averted pretty neatly in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''.
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While you can wander into the Viscount's Keep whenever you want, you're only allowed to see the Viscount himself when you're called into his chambers. Unless you personally save his son's life in Act 1, you won't meet him until you've made your fortune.



* In ''VideoGame/TheSimsMedieval'', villagers are frequently seen in the Throne Room interacting with the Monarch, Royal Advisor and visiting diplomats.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheSimsMedieval'', villagers are frequently seen in the Throne Room interacting with the Monarch, Royal Advisor and visiting diplomats. Also inverted since when playing as the monarch you'll spend a lot of time running around the kingdom bothering your subjects in person.
* Not so in Morrowind, however. You can try and waltz into the personal quarters of various Great House nobles if you want to, but they will not talk business with you unless you have a reason for bothering this particular noble (i.e. have a letter for them, belong to their House and want to serve them, are sent with a secret diplomatic mission, are a noble too and want to get a land deed from the duke, are the Messiah and want them to acknowledge that, etc). To have business with them, you should have business with their henchmen, hirelings and recruiters in the House Council Halls first. And the god-kings of the Tribunal avert this absolutely; you will not meet one unless they want to meet you (or you're brazen enough to crack the Difficulty 100 lock, in Vivec's case).



** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', jarls seem to have the same kind of open-door policy. The dragonborn can just walk in and ask if they have a job for him. In fact, it is usually harder to get into a town jarl resides in (1 dialogue with a guard) then to get into the jarl's palace.

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** * In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', jarls Skyrim]]'':
** Jarls
seem to have the same kind of open-door policy. The dragonborn Dragonborn can just walk in and ask if they have a job for him. In fact, it is usually harder to get into a town jarl resides in (1 dialogue with a guard) then to get into the jarl's palace.



** Not so in Morrowind, however. You can try and waltz into the personal quarters of various Great House nobles if you want to, but they will not talk business with you unless you have a reason for bothering this particular noble (i.e. have a letter for them, belong to their House and want to serve them, are sent with a secret diplomatic mission, are a noble too and want to get a land deed from the duke, are the Messiah and want them to acknowledge that, etc). To have business with them, you should have business with their henchmen, hirelings and recruiters in the House Council Halls first. And the god-kings of the Tribunal avert this absolutely; you will not meet one unless they want to meet you (or you're brazen enough to crack the Difficulty 100 lock, in Vivec's case).
** Similarly averted in the ''Dawnguard'' expansion for ''Skyrim'', where the only reason Lord Harkon agrees to allow the Dragonborn into the Castle Volkihar for an audience, is because they are escorting his daughter. If you turn down his offer to become a Vampire Lord as reward for your service, he spares your life but immediately banishes you from the premises.

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** Not so in Morrowind, however. You can try and waltz into the personal quarters of various Great House nobles if you want to, but they will not talk business with you unless you have a reason for bothering this particular noble (i.e. have a letter for them, belong to their House and want to serve them, are sent with a secret diplomatic mission, are a noble too and want to get a land deed from the duke, are the Messiah and want them to acknowledge that, etc). To have business with them, you should have business with their henchmen, hirelings and recruiters in the House Council Halls first. And the god-kings of the Tribunal avert this absolutely; you will not meet one unless they want to meet you (or you're brazen enough to crack the Difficulty 100 lock, in Vivec's case).
** Similarly averted in the ''Dawnguard'' expansion for ''Skyrim'', expansion, where the only reason Lord Harkon agrees to allow the Dragonborn into the Castle Volkihar for an audience, is because they are escorting his daughter. If you turn down his offer to become a Vampire Lord as reward for your service, he spares your life but immediately banishes you from the premises.
5th Feb '17 2:41:47 PM LentilSandEater
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** There was a time when anyone could walk up to the front door of the White House and knock. Exactly when this stopped is up to some debate - during the Civil War or World War II, but the fact is you once could. Probably didn't mean the president would see you, though.
*** You still can! Provided you take the tour though. The end is an exit through the front door.

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** There was a time when anyone could walk up to the front door of the White House and knock. Exactly when this stopped is up to some debate - during the Civil War or World War II, but the fact is you once could. Probably didn't mean the president would see you, though.
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You still can! Provided you take the tour though. The end is an exit through the front door.



* Modern Scandinavian monarchies are very austere and down to earth, and the monarchs freely mingle with their people.
** However, in an slight aversion, they do maintain protocol as far as addressing them go. Adressing them by the folksy "Du" ("You"), as opposed to the honorific "De", will often result in a sharp rebuke.
** That is the ''Danish'' monarch. Norwegian kings (at least the two latest, Olav and Harald), are known for their commonality, and Olav V was notorious. A story goes that he was on a military parade, and asked for a smoke. When requested what kind of cigarette, he answered bluntly "Hell, whatever, as long as it smokes..." Olav was loved for his ability to talk and converse with (almost) everyone. As for the Norwegian queen: she actually ''asked'' a journalist to drop the honorifics and adress her with the commmon "du" (she is, after all, born a commoner, although of the medium wealthy kind). After this, most journalists avoid the problem by using a roundabout adressing: "do the king enjoy himself?" Queen Margrethe of Denmark is somewhat more pert on this subject.

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* Modern Scandinavian monarchies are very austere and down to earth, and the monarchs freely mingle with their people.
** However, in an slight aversion, they
people. They do maintain protocol as far as addressing them go. Adressing them by the folksy "Du" ("You"), as opposed to the honorific "De", will often result in a sharp rebuke.
** That is the ''Danish'' monarch. * Norwegian kings (at least the two latest, least, Olav and Harald), are known for their commonality, and Olav V was notorious. A story goes that he was on a military parade, and asked for a smoke. When requested what kind of cigarette, he answered bluntly "Hell, whatever, as long as it smokes..." Olav was loved for his ability to talk and converse with (almost) everyone. As for the Norwegian queen: she actually ''asked'' a journalist to drop the honorifics and adress her with the commmon "du" (she is, after all, born a commoner, although of the medium wealthy kind). After this, most journalists avoid the problem by using a roundabout adressing: "do the king enjoy himself?" Queen Margrethe of Denmark is somewhat more pert on this subject.
4th Feb '17 4:20:01 PM jamespolk
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* "WesternAnimation/GeraldMcBoingBoingOnPlanetMoo": The king of Planet Moo is freer with his subjects than Earth sovereigns. When he finds out he doesn't have enough money to pay for Gerald's trip back home, he goes to a hock shop and pawns his crown.



*** Rather ironically, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln commissioned the Secret Service on the very day of his assassination. Of course, the original purpose of the Secret Service was to investigate counterfeit currency (a function which they still carry out to this day). The Secret Service was not actually tasked with protecting the President until after the assassination of UsefulNotes/WilliamMcKinley in 1901.


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** As late as the 1950s, Harry Truman was taking morning strolls about town, accompanied by only a single guard. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, the era of semi-unfettered (semi-fettered?) access to the President ended with the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
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