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1st Jan '17 9:00:24 AM BURGINABC
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* Averted with ''Anime/{{Hamtaro}}''. Granted, the main characters are cute little hamsters, but [[CatsAreMean cats generally aren't shown to be all that bad]]. You know what's really dangerous? Chickens. Especially the gang of violent, vicious, little ''baby chicks''.



* Averted in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. You have [[spoiler:chimeras of humans crossed with]] lizards, dogs, bulls, snakes, porcupines, frogs, gorillas, and lions. Cuteness doesn't turn out to be a factor in goodness. [[spoiler:Though, it may be argued none of the typically cute or cool animals are depicted as very cute in this form.]]
* Averted with the Ohmu in ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'', which despite being fearsome gargantuan bugs, are by peaceful by nature and only attack when provoked. They are also highly empathetic and caring beings. Despite their monstrous appearance, they still end up being cute. It helps that they are based on pill bugs.

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* Averted in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. You have [[spoiler:chimeras of humans crossed with]] lizards, dogs, bulls, snakes, porcupines, frogs, gorillas, and lions. Cuteness doesn't turn out to be a factor in goodness. [[spoiler:Though, it may be argued none of the typically cute or cool animals are depicted as very cute in this form.]]
* Averted with the Ohmu in ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'', which despite being fearsome gargantuan bugs, are by peaceful by nature and only attack when provoked. They are also highly empathetic and caring beings. Despite their monstrous appearance, they still end up being cute. It helps that they are based on pill bugs.






* ''WesternAnimation/WallE'':
** The film averts this with animals: Early on in the movie, WALL•E encounters a cockroach, which quickly becomes his pet. Strangely, however, the cockroach is stylized such that it has no visible head.
** With robots it's played more straight. The most sympathetic robots like WALL-E, EVE, and MO, have endearing features such as large eyes and hands. The villainous robots, such as AUTO and GO-4, are red-eyed cyclopes with no hands or visible expressions. That said, some of the minor heroic robots have unorthodox designs; some are merely vacuums on wheels, and the intimidating [=WALL-As=], enormous [=WALL-Es=] with four GlowingEyesOfDoom, turn out to be nice guys.
* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', where rats can be both villains and heroes. For instance, Justin is about as convincingly handsome and dashing a hero as you can ever make a rat (there is a reason why "[[FetishFuel Everyone is Furry for Justin]]"). The owl is frightening in appearance, but helpful. And is there anyone as adorable as Jeremy the crow?
** More directly averted, however, in the novel, ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH,'' which is ''[[NoAntagonist devoid of villains]]''; the closest thing to a villain being a [[CatsAreMean cat by the name of Dragon]]. Jenner (the first film's BigBad) actually doesn't have an active role in the novel, and is only mentioned in flashback. Even then, he simply leaves the other rats rather than becoming a CardCarryingVillain.

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* ''WesternAnimation/WallE'':
** The film averts this with animals: Early on in the movie, WALL•E encounters a cockroach, which quickly becomes his pet. Strangely, however, the cockroach is stylized such that it has no visible head.
** With robots it's played more straight.
''WesternAnimation/WallE'': The most sympathetic robots like WALL-E, EVE, and MO, have endearing features such as large eyes and hands. The villainous robots, such as AUTO and GO-4, are red-eyed cyclopes with no hands or visible expressions. That said, some of the minor heroic robots have unorthodox designs; some are merely vacuums on wheels, and the intimidating [=WALL-As=], enormous [=WALL-Es=] with four GlowingEyesOfDoom, turn out to be nice guys.
* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', where rats can be both villains and heroes. For instance, Justin is about as convincingly handsome and dashing a hero as you can ever make a rat (there is a reason why "[[FetishFuel Everyone is Furry for Justin]]"). The owl is frightening in appearance, but helpful. And is there anyone as adorable as Jeremy the crow?
** More directly averted, however, in the novel, ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH,'' which is ''[[NoAntagonist devoid of villains]]''; the closest thing to a villain being a [[CatsAreMean cat by the name of Dragon]]. Jenner (the first film's BigBad) actually doesn't have an active role in the novel, and is only mentioned in flashback. Even then, he simply leaves the other rats rather than becoming a CardCarryingVillain.
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* Completely averted in ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' where a pair of coelacanths (yes, they actually show coelacanths in an animated Disney movie) can actually be seen swimming in a large fish tank near the beginning of the film. Atlantis itself is populated with [[HeroicAlbino white-haired people]] and [[SeldomSeenSpecies unpopular prehistoric animals]].



* The 1967 version of ''Film/TheJungleBook'' plays this straight with Kaa, a creepy and obsequious python who repeatedly tries to eat Mowgli, [[AdaptationalVillainy in contrast with his literary counterpart]]. However, the film also averts this with the vultures, which are usually portrayed as omens of doom. The vultures here are actually friendly and help protect Mowgli from Shere Khan.



** Averted with Mossflower's bats, which are not evil at all; they're cute and friendly with an endearing VerbalTic, verbal tic, verbal tic ...
** You can't really say that the good guys are the cute ones. [[CrapSaccharineWorld ''All'' Mossflower's animals are cute]]. Or at least UglyCute.



* Averted in ''Literature/JamesAndTheGiantPeach'' where the only talking animals are [[BigCreepyCrawlies giant invertebrates]] such as a centipede, a grasshopper, and a spider. They're all kind to James and become his adoptive family. Also the movie avoided making them too cute.
* The heroes of ''Literature/CharlottesWeb'' are a humble pig and a very compassionate spider.



* Both used and averted in ''Literature/WatershipDown''. The heroes are rabbits. The major predators of rabbits are ''minor'' enemies - the BigBad is actually another rabbit (and a downright AxCrazy psycho too! [[KillerRabbit Never seen a rabbit attack a dog head on before!]]) [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ez5QPW-ku4 Rabbits are deceptively badass]].
* Averted very pointedly in the Literature/YoungWizards series. In one novel, despite being the ultimate -- perhaps the original -- predator and sporting the title of [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast The Pale Slayer]], Ed'rashtekaresket the Giant White Shark is actually a servant of the [[PowersThatBe Light]] and ultimately [[spoiler:the HeroicSacrifice that holds back the forces of decay]].



* Ernest Thompson Seton averted such things. For example, he wrote novels about adventures of a Boar, Coyote, and a Bat. A human who hunted and mistreated bats brought on himself and his family doom in the form of a {{justified|Trope}} [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped anvil]]...that is, a ''gnat''-transmitted disease.



* Plushie Cthulhu. Also [[http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/plush/medchibi/ Chibithulhu]].
* Folkmanis, a company that makes high-quality puppets, averts this. Not only do they make realistic-looking puppets of adorable puppies and kittens, but they also make puppets of tarantulas, snakes, alligators, and dragons.



* ''VideoGame/StarFox'' partially averts this. The main villains are monkeys and apes. There are several reptile enemies but the manual for the Super Nintendo game says they were enslaved. One of the bosses is a seal.
** The Star Wolf team plays this straight with the exception of Andrew. A cruel Wolf, deranged chameleon, and a greedy traitorous pig. Pigma and Andrew broke off by the time Assault rolled around, both of which were replaced by Panther Caroso. And Star Wolf now is more of a badass trio and has shown respect towards Star Fox and helps them when needed.
* Thank goodness for the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. Any creature can inspire a Pokémon and the series seems to have been going out of its way to showcase obscure, strange, and unpopular animals (like coelacanths). You can befriend even big scary creatures, and these tend to be the most powerful potential {{Game Breaker}}s. Additionally, your Starter tends to start out cute and become more of a monster as it levels up.
** This may be why Amity Square, in ''Diamond and Pearl'', seems so darned out of place. Not only was this the first time we, as the player, were specifically told that only certain Pokémon are "cute" in a situation played straight but many of the cute ones such as Mew, Togepi, Cubone, Pichu, Smoochum, Eevee, and Marill aren't on that list! If you happen to think your Bulbasaur or Mudkip is way more adorable than 'proto-FetishFuel bunny' and 'creepy kidnapper balloon', you're apparently a weirdo. (Granted, the news that the Park was designed around the pre-existing character sprites relieves the sting a ''little''...) It's also lampshaded by [[NightmareFetishist a guy near the entrance who complains about the discrimination against his Gyarados and Steelix]] -- two huge menacing snakelike creatures.
*** In ''[[VideoGameRemake Platinum]]'', Amity Square has been remodeled and they now allow all of that game's starters and evolved forms thereof. Apparently, a 683 pound turtle monster with bushes growing out of its back is just as cute as a little electric mouse Pokémon. It's a start.
*** ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldandSilver HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'' avert it entirely. Any Pokémon you own can follow you through any part of the game, and the big scary 'mons can do cute little dances when you talk to them. When the feature was first announced, one teaser screenshot even showed the hero with a Steelix behind him - amusingly, one of the Pokémon that the man in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum complains he can't have follow him. (Makes you wonder how [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Wailord]] manages to follow you on land.)
** The NPC trainer archetype 'Lass' has a personality built around this trope. One of them, in an earlier game, actually lampshades the 'uglier as you evolve' thing and says that she refuses to let any of her (rather high level for their species) Pokémon evolve.
** The evil teams in the main series games always use an overabundance of Poison and Dark types. Similarly, in the spin-off titles that lack humans, Ghost, Dark, and Poison type Pokemon typically end up being the bad guys.
*** ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity'' has a notable inversion of this, with the [[spoiler: cutesy, pink, floral patterned Munna]] being a major antagonist, while making the BigGood [[spoiler: Hydreigon, who's one of the most ObviouslyEvil looking Pokemon in the franchise]].
** Partially averted in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedandBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]'', as one little girl talks about how much she loves her Koffing (which is essentially a huge living ball of toxic gas).
** ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' avert this further, where any Pokemon - even the giant bees, even the living piles of toxic ooze, even the Godzilla knockoff - can be taken into the Pokemon-Amie feature to be petted, fed, and played with.



** ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' averts the trend with the Goombas with the Chuboomba, which is chubby, has a lollipop, is generally considered cute by the fandom, and is still an enemy in the game.
** The ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' series averts this trope. Those cute Koopas? Who [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s03Kco-XQCY dance to the BGM]]? You're still allowed, still ''encouraged'', to stomp on them mercilessly and use their shells as a weapon.



* Averted in ''Webcomic/SuicideForHire'': Arcturus and Hunter look pretty cute (Arcturus in particular), but...[[ThoseTwoBadGuys well.]]



* Averted by ''Roleplay/AvatarAdventures''' Slouch. Slouch is a [[http://beachchairscientist.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/blobfish1.jpg blobfish]]. ...Yeeaahh.
** Look at 'im, he's so cute!



* Literature/SpaceBeasts: Mostly averts this with stereotypical 'cute' Animals like [[CuteKitten Cats]], Squirrels, and [[UnicornsAreSacred Unicorns]] fighting alongside stereotypical 'scary' animals like [[BatOutOfHell Bats]], [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Snakes]] and...[[SeldomSeenSpecies Cuttlefish]] but at the same time it does [[TropesAreNotBad acknowledge]] that sometimes [[PrimalFear there are reasons]] we feel repulsed by some creatures, primarily parasites and creepy crawlies in general, one of the running gags is [[NatureLover Nature Lovers]] admitting they can't find anything positive to say about tapeworms, and the {{Token Human}} Ichabod Crane ruefully admits that while he prides himself on being a FriendToAllLivingThings and loving all creatures great and small...Draws the line at maggots, they make him toss his cookies like nothing else can.



* Averted in one of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceB8rHs5l5c episodes]] of ''WesternAnimation/AsToldByGinger'' where Ginger's brother, Carl confronts his fears when a naked mole rat escapes from one of the zoo exhibits and [[SquirrelsInMyPants crawled up his pants]]. Unlike above, said mole rat is as wrinkly and unattractive as it's real-life counterpart (even mentioning it having hair in its mouth). The heartwarming moment comes when Carl loses his fear when he discovers the mole rat is even more frightened of him.



** In ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', the majority of the Maximals were mammals or birds, or fusions of the two. Dinobot and [[spoiler: Blackarachnia]] subvert this as they were incoming {{Heel Face Turn}}s. The toyline did this a lot as well, though again, subverted from time to time with the inclusion of Cybershark (a hammerhead) and Claw Jaw (a squid) for the Maximals. ''Anime/Beast Wars II'' averts this entirely as all the Maximals/Cybetrons took on animal forms whilst the Predacons turned into vehicles.

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** In ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', the majority of the Maximals were mammals or birds, or fusions of the two. Dinobot and [[spoiler: Blackarachnia]] subvert this as they were incoming {{Heel Face Turn}}s. The toyline did this a lot as well, though again, subverted from time to time with the inclusion of Cybershark (a hammerhead) and Claw Jaw (a squid) for the Maximals. ''Anime/Beast Wars II'' averts this entirely as all the Maximals/Cybetrons took on animal forms whilst the Predacons turned into vehicles.



* Averted by ''[[Series/CrocodileHunter Steve Irwin]]'' who was essentially a living, breathing incarnation of the FriendToAllLivingThings trope. The man once gave a heartbreaking eulogy to a dying lizard.
* Anansi, a spider culture hero from West Africa, averts this. Granted, he is TheTrickster who gets others into trouble a lot...but the fact that his victims are consistently dumb enough (and often mean-spirited) to fall for his traps prevents the audience from [[WhatTheHellHero feeling sympathy for the "bad guys"]].



* Also averted harshly in that it seems the cuter the bunny, the better it will taste, with the best meat coming from the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_white_rabbit New Zealand white rabbit]].
1st Jan '17 3:48:15 AM buckmana
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* Completely averted in ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' where a pair of coelacanths (yes, they actually show coelacanths in an animated Disney movie) can actually be seen swimming in a large fish tank near the beginning of the film. Atlantis itself is populated with [[HeroicAlbino whie-haired people]] and [[SeldomSeenSpecies unpopular prehistoric animals]].

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* Completely averted in ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' where a pair of coelacanths (yes, they actually show coelacanths in an animated Disney movie) can actually be seen swimming in a large fish tank near the beginning of the film. Atlantis itself is populated with [[HeroicAlbino whie-haired white-haired people]] and [[SeldomSeenSpecies unpopular prehistoric animals]].
16th Dec '16 10:34:56 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians --not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina--, it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle (which none of them particularly care about).

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** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians --not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina--, vagina-- it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle (which none of them particularly care about).
16th Dec '16 10:33:08 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians (not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina), it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle.

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** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians (not --not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina), vagina--, it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle.cattle (which none of them particularly care about).
16th Dec '16 10:31:15 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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* The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Whale Whores" concerns Stan's attempts to stop the Japanese from killing dolphins and whales. In typical ''South Park'' fashion, it is revealed the Japanese believe those species are responsible for the atomic bombing. After Stan makes them think chickens and cows are the real culprits, the Japanese go after them. Everyone watches approvingly.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'':
** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians (not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina), it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle.
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The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "Whale Whores" concerns Stan's attempts to stop the Japanese from killing dolphins and whales. In typical ''South Park'' fashion, it is revealed the Japanese believe those species are responsible for the atomic bombing. After Stan makes them think chickens and cows are the real culprits, the Japanese go after them. Everyone watches approvingly.
2nd Dec '16 1:48:11 PM Morgenthaler
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You may have noticed that only cute, cuddly, and cool animals are good guys while unpopular or unattractive animals are brought in to be the {{Designated Villain}}s. This usually plays into the "Carnivores are Mean" subtrope of CarnivoreConfusion. [[SavageWolves Wolves]] were cast as baddies for centuries. Owls and hawks and [[CreepyCrows corvids]] basically exist to [[GiantFlyer drop down on our cuter protagonists from above]]. Wasps and termites are mini villains- and basically evil twins of bees and ants. [[YouDirtyRat Rats]] and [[WickedWeasel weasels]] are the go-to pocket-sized villains. Friendly sharks pretty much exist ''only'' as a {{subver|tedTrope}}sion. Don't even ask about [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent snakes]]. The heroes, on the other hand, will be cute or cool animals like doggies and [[CuteKitten kitties]] and bunnies and duckies and {{turtle|Power}}s and froggies and ladybugs and bees and ants and [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkeys]] and {{friendly playful dolphin}}s and Reticulated Chipmunks and blah. Wolves and [[CunningLikeAFox Foxes]], and [[KingOfBeasts Lions]] and other big cats can be heroes as well because their babies are cute and thus remind people of puppies and kittens, and the adults look BadAss. All butterflies are marked "Cute", even those you won't like to see in your garden. [[GiantSpider Spiders]] and [[BatOutOfHell bats]] are marked "Mean" even though they usually don't bother humans at all and even devour lots of annoying and dangerous insects. And if you'll encounter an Antlion in the role of horrible predator, its ''adult'' form is ''not'' likely to appear in next scenes (it looks like a cute, pretty dragonfly). For any animals not in this short list, it's usually divided into:

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You may have noticed that only cute, cuddly, and cool animals are good guys while unpopular or unattractive animals are brought in to be the {{Designated Villain}}s. This usually plays into the "Carnivores are Mean" subtrope of CarnivoreConfusion. [[SavageWolves Wolves]] were cast as baddies for centuries. Owls and hawks and [[CreepyCrows corvids]] basically exist to [[GiantFlyer drop down on our cuter protagonists from above]]. Wasps and termites are mini villains- and basically evil twins of bees and ants. [[YouDirtyRat Rats]] and [[WickedWeasel weasels]] are the go-to pocket-sized villains. Friendly sharks pretty much exist ''only'' as a {{subver|tedTrope}}sion. Don't even ask about [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent snakes]]. The heroes, on the other hand, will be cute or cool animals like doggies and [[CuteKitten kitties]] and bunnies and duckies and {{turtle|Power}}s and froggies and ladybugs and bees and ants and [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys monkeys]] and {{friendly playful dolphin}}s and Reticulated Chipmunks and blah. Wolves and [[CunningLikeAFox Foxes]], and [[KingOfBeasts Lions]] and other big cats can be heroes as well because their babies are cute and thus remind people of puppies and kittens, and the adults look BadAss.badass. All butterflies are marked "Cute", even those you won't like to see in your garden. [[GiantSpider Spiders]] and [[BatOutOfHell bats]] are marked "Mean" even though they usually don't bother humans at all and even devour lots of annoying and dangerous insects. And if you'll encounter an Antlion in the role of horrible predator, its ''adult'' form is ''not'' likely to appear in next scenes (it looks like a cute, pretty dragonfly). For any animals not in this short list, it's usually divided into:



* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': The anime more or less follows through with the games' philosophy...until you go back to the first season or so and notice that Ash had cute little Pikachu, Butterfree, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, and Charmander - and that the Team Rocket trio had a floating naval mine gas cloud, and a giant purple rattlesnake. Later on though, Ash got a Muk ([[MuckMonster essentially a live pile of sludge]]) and Charmander gradually changed into the big, scary -- but BadAss -- Charizard. Additionally, Team Rocket started a sort of running gag where they acquire increasingly cute Pokémon in the newer seasons. It's also revealed that Ekans and Koffing aren't really evil (although it's stated that ''no'' Pokémon are evil). In "Island of the Giant Pokémon" they are revealed to be {{Punch Clock Villain}}s and bear no anger or malice towards Pikachu. The first Pokémon Ash captures is a Caterpie. It does evolve soon, but in the meantime Misty gets to scream about it because she's afraid of bugs and thinks it's gross. Also, Ash later gets an adorable Gligar which evolves into Gliscor -- which is a huge, demonic-looking, flying scorpion thing with fangs and batlike ears. It's affectionate and a little slow in the head. But then there's also the uncomfortable realization that Ash's team hardly ever get to evolve. Unless their adult form looks cool.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': The anime more or less follows through with the games' philosophy...until you go back to the first season or so and notice that Ash had cute little Pikachu, Butterfree, Squirtle, Bulbasaur, and Charmander - and that the Team Rocket trio had a floating naval mine gas cloud, and a giant purple rattlesnake. Later on though, Ash got a Muk ([[MuckMonster essentially a live pile of sludge]]) and Charmander gradually changed into the big, scary -- but BadAss badass -- Charizard. Additionally, Team Rocket started a sort of running gag where they acquire increasingly cute Pokémon in the newer seasons. It's also revealed that Ekans and Koffing aren't really evil (although it's stated that ''no'' Pokémon are evil). In "Island of the Giant Pokémon" they are revealed to be {{Punch Clock Villain}}s and bear no anger or malice towards Pikachu. The first Pokémon Ash captures is a Caterpie. It does evolve soon, but in the meantime Misty gets to scream about it because she's afraid of bugs and thinks it's gross. Also, Ash later gets an adorable Gligar which evolves into Gliscor -- which is a huge, demonic-looking, flying scorpion thing with fangs and batlike ears. It's affectionate and a little slow in the head. But then there's also the uncomfortable realization that Ash's team hardly ever get to evolve. Unless their adult form looks cool.
1st Dec '16 5:06:04 AM Morgenthaler
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** The Star Wolf team plays this straight with the exception of Andrew. A cruel Wolf, deranged chameleon, and a greedy traitorous pig. Pigma and Andrew broke off by the time Assault rolled around, both of which were replaced by Panther Caroso. And Star Wolf now is more of a {{Badass}} trio and has shown respect towards Star Fox and helps them when needed.

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** The Star Wolf team plays this straight with the exception of Andrew. A cruel Wolf, deranged chameleon, and a greedy traitorous pig. Pigma and Andrew broke off by the time Assault rolled around, both of which were replaced by Panther Caroso. And Star Wolf now is more of a {{Badass}} badass trio and has shown respect towards Star Fox and helps them when needed.
23rd Nov '16 7:48:41 PM ElSquibbonator
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Another factor may be the animal's size and/or place in human society. For example, both Mice and Rats can be cute, but they can get a bad rap because they're commonly household pests. Even then, the tiny Mice are likely [[NiceMice to be portrayed more positively]] [[YouDirtyRat than the larger Rats]]. Consequently; if a Cat is chasing Mice, the Cat is often portrayed as the villain, but a Cat chasing ''rats'' is usually the hero.

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Another factor may be the animal's size and/or place in human society. For example, both Mice and Rats can be cute, but they can get a bad rap because they're commonly household pests. Even then, the tiny Mice are likely [[NiceMice to be portrayed more positively]] [[YouDirtyRat than the larger Rats]]. Consequently; if a Cat cat is chasing Mice, a mouse, the Cat cat is often portrayed as the villain, but a Cat cat chasing ''rats'' a ''rat'' is usually the hero.
19th Nov '16 12:22:50 AM BURGINABC
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* Another obscure animated feature that gets {{Anvilicious}} about this is ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTheAmericanRabbit''. [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Predictably]], the hero and most of his buddies are cute rabbits. Other good guys include cuddly little bear cubs, pudgy little farm animals like sheep and piggies, big snuggly [[BoisterousBruiser Toblerone]]-ish moose and gorillas, and {{Squee}}-worthy ducklings and [[EverythingsBetterWithPenguins penguins]]. The bad guys are a [[AllBikersAreHellsAngels biker gang]] [[CarnivoreConfusion made up of jackals]] and they are led by a [[GiantFlyer big, scary condor]]. The uncomfortable part comes when the eponymous hero ''insists'' that "there are sure to be nice jackals out there", which seems to be an anti-stereotyping [[AnAesop aesop]]. Too bad it's {{Broken|Aesop}} -- we never ever '''meet''' any nice jackals. Every single jackal that we see movie is part of the biker gang.

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* Another obscure animated feature that gets {{Anvilicious}} about this is ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTheAmericanRabbit''. [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Predictably]], the hero and most of his buddies are cute rabbits. Other good guys include cuddly little bear cubs, pudgy little farm animals like sheep and piggies, big snuggly [[BoisterousBruiser Toblerone]]-ish moose and gorillas, and {{Squee}}-worthy ducklings and [[EverythingsBetterWithPenguins penguins]]. The bad guys are a [[AllBikersAreHellsAngels biker gang]] [[CarnivoreConfusion made up of jackals]] and they are led by a [[GiantFlyer big, scary condor]]. The uncomfortable part comes when the eponymous hero ''insists'' that "there are sure to be nice jackals out there", which seems to be an anti-stereotyping [[AnAesop aesop]]. Too bad it's {{Broken|Aesop}} -- we never ever '''meet''' any nice jackals. Every single jackal that we see in the movie is part of the biker gang.
18th Nov '16 11:16:13 AM erforce
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** The original 1954 film ''Film/{{Gojira}}'' also manages to subvert this. Godzilla appears terrifying and spends the film destroying Tokyo and killing thousands (if not millions) of people. However, he's also portrayed as a NonMaliciousMonster and TragicVillain who is shown to be just as much a victim of the atomic bomb as the Japanese were.

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** The original 1954 film ''Film/{{Gojira}}'' ''[[Film/Godzilla1954 Gojira]]'' also manages to subvert this. Godzilla appears terrifying and spends the film destroying Tokyo and killing thousands (if not millions) of people. However, he's also portrayed as a NonMaliciousMonster and TragicVillain who is shown to be just as much a victim of the atomic bomb as the Japanese were.
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