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29th Apr '17 3:48:44 PM nombretomado
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* The {{Mascot}}s of ''Franchise/TokimekiMemorial 1'' (the Koala) and ''2'' (Kero the frog and Gray the alien). Aside from Kero, which arguably goes more on the cute side, it's hard to tell if they're cute or ugly/evil-looking. To push it further, in the case of the Koala who's proved as a mean-spirited fellow, at least two characters hates its guts (Yuina and Naomi), but it's ''loved'' by Miharu (who even puts [[AnimeHair her hair in koala-ears shape]]) and [[FriendToAllLivingThings Megumi]]. And as far as Kero goes, [[SiblingYinYang the twin sisters Shirayuki]] [[PolarOppositeTwins have radically different opinions about him]]: [[TheIngenue sweet ingenue Miho]] ''loves'' him, while [[GenkiGirl playful and mischievous Maho]] ''loathes'' it.

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* The {{Mascot}}s of ''Franchise/TokimekiMemorial ''VisualNovel/TokimekiMemorial 1'' (the Koala) and ''2'' (Kero the frog and Gray the alien). Aside from Kero, which arguably goes more on the cute side, it's hard to tell if they're cute or ugly/evil-looking. To push it further, in the case of the Koala who's proved as a mean-spirited fellow, at least two characters hates its guts (Yuina and Naomi), but it's ''loved'' by Miharu (who even puts [[AnimeHair her hair in koala-ears shape]]) and [[FriendToAllLivingThings Megumi]]. And as far as Kero goes, [[SiblingYinYang the twin sisters Shirayuki]] [[PolarOppositeTwins have radically different opinions about him]]: [[TheIngenue sweet ingenue Miho]] ''loves'' him, while [[GenkiGirl playful and mischievous Maho]] ''loathes'' it.
25th Apr '17 8:04:30 PM merotoker
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* Toho manages to subvert this with the film ''Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah''. Godzilla himself can rarely be considered "cute", but what he goes through in the movie turns him into a major {{Woobie}} (Most notably, there's the moment when [[spoiler:he sees his own son being brutally murdered by Destoroyah. Made worse by the fact that Godzilla ''himself'' is dying and that Destoroyah decides to torment the mourning kaiju by curling his tail around his throat and dragging him around]]...and it doesn't hurt that the film itself is a ''major'' TearJerker.

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* Toho manages to subvert this with the film ''Film/GodzillaVsDestoroyah''. Godzilla himself can rarely be considered "cute", but what he goes through in the movie turns him into a major {{Woobie}} [[TheWoobie Woobie]] (Most notably, there's the moment when [[spoiler:he sees his own son being brutally murdered by Destoroyah. Made worse by the fact that Godzilla ''himself'' is dying and that Destoroyah decides to torment the mourning kaiju by curling his tail around his throat and dragging him around]]...and it doesn't hurt that the film itself is a ''major'' TearJerker.



* Underlined in heavy red marker in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Vnpp1Ikk8 this Denis Leary special]] (ClusterFBomb warning).
-->"You only wanna save the CUTE animals!!!"



** Actually it's not "bias" on his part at all. Firstly, the Adipose babies are harmless and the process used to make them can be done without harm. The process however can be done more quickly with fatal results. The Doctor prevented the fatal version, something he couldnt do to stop the ravenous horde of Racnoss coming to eat all humans on Earth. Secondly, Donna (who witnessed both the Racnoss and the Adipose) explicitly points out this change in the Doctor's attitude and remarks that [[MoralityPet spending time with Martha must have done him good.]] The Doctor agrees. On the other hand, it's very much an example of this trope on the part of the ''writers'', since they quite clearly set up the parallel on purpose.

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** Actually it's not "bias" on his part at all. Firstly, the Adipose babies are harmless and the process used to make them can be done without harm. The process however can be done more quickly with fatal results. The Doctor prevented the fatal version, something he couldnt couldn't do to stop the ravenous horde of Racnoss coming to eat all humans on Earth. Secondly, Donna (who witnessed both the Racnoss and the Adipose) explicitly points out this change in the Doctor's attitude and remarks that [[MoralityPet spending time with Martha must have done him good.]] The Doctor agrees. On the other hand, it's very much an example of this trope on the part of the ''writers'', since they quite clearly set up the parallel on purpose.



** They've also made adorable plushies of inamimate objects. What? A cup of earl-gray tea isn't cu-[[http://www.squishable.com/pc/squish_earl_grey_tea_15/fp_squishables/Squishable+Earl+Grey+Tea Aww, look at it's adorable little mustache!]]

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** They've also made adorable plushies of inamimate inanimate objects. What? A cup of earl-gray tea isn't cu-[[http://www.squishable.com/pc/squish_earl_grey_tea_15/fp_squishables/Squishable+Earl+Grey+Tea Aww, look at it's adorable little mustache!]]



* Both played with and subverted in ''WorldOfWarcraft''. On the one hand, the more [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman humanoid]], pleasant-looking races form the Alliance, who are [[BlackAndGrayMorality usually framed as]] the more protagonistic faction. But on the other hand, the fierce, alien and sometimes downright ugly races of the Horde are playable characters and are also sometimes portrayed in a positive light, just as the Alliance races can be malicious. ([[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Particularly humans.]])

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* Both played with and subverted in ''WorldOfWarcraft''.''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. On the one hand, the more [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman humanoid]], pleasant-looking races form the Alliance, who are [[BlackAndGrayMorality usually framed as]] the more protagonistic faction. But on the other hand, the fierce, alien and sometimes downright ugly races of the Horde are playable characters and are also sometimes portrayed in a positive light, just as the Alliance races can be malicious. ([[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Particularly humans.]])



* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' features a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_mole-rat naked mole rat]] named Rufus as the TeamPet. We ought to be celebrating this one as an aversion, and we definitely would. The thing is, Rufus is [[http://www.rochuswolff.de/weblog/archiv/img/kim_possible_nacktmulle_10.jpg drawn]] in an overly cute and cuddly Disney manner rather than anything resembling a real Naked Mole Rat. Additionally, Rufus started out as a pretty ugly Naked Mole Rat baby. This would [[{{Fanon}} make one guess]] that it was Ron's [[ThePowerOfFriendship wonderful friendship with him]] that turned him cute...Or his Bueno Nacho Junk-Food diet.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' features a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_mole-rat naked mole rat]] named Rufus as the TeamPet. We ought to be celebrating this one as an aversion, and we definitely would. The thing is, Rufus is [[http://www.rochuswolff.de/weblog/archiv/img/kim_possible_nacktmulle_10.jpg [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/8/84/Kim_Possible_-_Ruus_-_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20160410112115 drawn]] in an overly cute and cuddly Disney manner rather than anything resembling a real Naked Mole Rat. Additionally, Rufus started out as a pretty ugly Naked Mole Rat baby. This would [[{{Fanon}} make one guess]] that it was Ron's [[ThePowerOfFriendship wonderful friendship with him]] that turned him cute...Or his Bueno Nacho Junk-Food diet.



-->'''Randy''': Now the Japanese are normal, like us.

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-->'''Randy''': --->'''Randy''': Now the Japanese are normal, like us.
4th Apr '17 8:15:41 PM nombretomado
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** Blink Dogs are good monsters with a built in ability like the blink spell, while their evil counterparts (displacer beasts) resemble emaciated, tentacled panthers. There's even a race of always neutral good celestials that are essentially anthropomorphic animals. There are lion people, wolf people, horse people, bird people, mouse people, and bear people among the celestials. There's also an anthromorphic dog type of celestials, the Hound Archons, who are AlwaysLawfulGood. Most insect monsters favor evil over good -- the exception being Formians, who are always lawful neutral (though in AD&D2 {{Planescape}}, before they replaced now-corrupted Modrons, were lawful neutral/''good'') instead and [[MultiArmedAndDangerous Thri-Kreen]], if they aren't removed again) There are a few exceptions. Naga (snakelike creatures) has good, neutral and evil variants, and lizardfolk are generally viewed as neutral, if usually primitive and hostile to [=PCs=].

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** Blink Dogs are good monsters with a built in ability like the blink spell, while their evil counterparts (displacer beasts) resemble emaciated, tentacled panthers. There's even a race of always neutral good celestials that are essentially anthropomorphic animals. There are lion people, wolf people, horse people, bird people, mouse people, and bear people among the celestials. There's also an anthromorphic dog type of celestials, the Hound Archons, who are AlwaysLawfulGood. Most insect monsters favor evil over good -- the exception being Formians, who are always lawful neutral (though in AD&D2 {{Planescape}}, TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}, before they replaced now-corrupted Modrons, were lawful neutral/''good'') instead and [[MultiArmedAndDangerous Thri-Kreen]], if they aren't removed again) There are a few exceptions. Naga (snakelike creatures) has good, neutral and evil variants, and lizardfolk are generally viewed as neutral, if usually primitive and hostile to [=PCs=].
28th Mar '17 8:24:24 PM Psi001
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* ''{{Franchise/Pokemon}}'' come in all forms and species, and while Pokedex entries describe varying degrees of morality for many of them, yours will naturally only be as good and bad as you tell them to be (the anime adaptation is a different story though...). Design wise, the scape of animals and plants and...[[CartoonCreature whatevers]] the Pokemon are based is surprisingly versatile. [[GiantSpider Galvantula]] for example looks surprisingly docile and huggable for what is the universe's equivalent of a dog sized tarantula spider.
19th Mar '17 11:02:05 AM Sammettik
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* Manga/DailyLifeWithMonsterGirl has a few chapters that deal with this, especially in the case of Rachnera, who was treated with false niceties due to her drider-esque appearance and very few locations cater to non-humanoid liminals though the latter is treated as government oversight.

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19th Mar '17 11:00:50 AM Sammettik
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* In what was probably a deliberate ViralMarketing campaign, Ford "accidentally" leaked two [=SportKa=] ads onto the Internet. One depicted a pigeon getting [[LaserGuidedKarma smacked by the car's hood]] before taking a crap on it (The pigeon did deserved it, though), and the other depicted a [[OffWithHisHead cat getting it's head bitten]] by the car's sun roof. Guess which one sparked protests.

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* In what was probably a deliberate ViralMarketing campaign, Ford "accidentally" leaked two [=SportKa=] ads onto the Internet. One depicted a pigeon getting [[LaserGuidedKarma smacked by the car's hood]] before taking a crap on it (The pigeon did deserved it, though), and the other depicted a [[OffWithHisHead cat getting it's head bitten]] by the car's sun roof. Guess which one sparked protests.



* Lampshaded and deconstructed multiple times in the [[Literature/HumanxCommonwealth Founding of the Commonwealth]] series: the first aliens humanity encounters are the insectoid Thranx, which they are extremely wary of, but turn out to be friendly and have very similar ideologies (to the point where even the anti-unification terrorists on both sides end up working together). The second species that they encounter are the [[SpaceElves Pitar]] who are very human-like in appearance, but who are really {{Absolute Xenophobe}}s who only tolerate humanity [[spoiler: to [[MarsNeedsWomen steal the women]] for {{Uterine Replicator}}s to save their plummeting birthrate]].
** Played straight with the [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent reptilian Aan]] who are the main {{Greater Scope Villain}}s of the ''Pip and Flinx'' subseries.


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* Lampshaded and deconstructed multiple times in the [[Literature/HumanxCommonwealth Founding of the Commonwealth]] series: the first aliens humanity encounters are the insectoid Thranx, which they are extremely wary of, but turn out to be friendly and have very similar ideologies (to the point where even the anti-unification terrorists on both sides end up working together). The second species that they encounter are the [[SpaceElves Pitar]] who are very human-like in appearance, but who are really {{Absolute Xenophobe}}s who only tolerate humanity [[spoiler: to [[MarsNeedsWomen steal the women]] for {{Uterine Replicator}}s to save their plummeting birthrate]].
** Played straight with the [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent reptilian Aan]] who are the main {{Greater Scope Villain}}s of the ''Pip and Flinx'' subseries.
3rd Mar '17 8:18:39 PM CodyPurple
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* In what was probably a deliberate ViralMarketing campaign, Ford "accidentally" leaked two [=SportKa=] ads onto the Internet. One depicted a pigeon getting squashed by the car's hood, and the other depicted a cat being decapitated by the car's sun roof. Guess which one sparked protests.

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* In what was probably a deliberate ViralMarketing campaign, Ford "accidentally" leaked two [=SportKa=] ads onto the Internet. One depicted a pigeon getting squashed [[LaserGuidedKarma smacked by the car's hood, hood]] before taking a crap on it (The pigeon did deserved it, though), and the other depicted a [[OffWithHisHead cat being decapitated getting it's head bitten]] by the car's sun roof. Guess which one sparked protests.
3rd Mar '17 1:42:29 PM TheKoS
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* This is apparently the [[CluelessAesop Aesop]] we are supposed to get out of watching ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie''. Unfortunately, watching the movie kind of makes you want to punch the next non-cute you see right in the face. The eponymous Garbage Pail Kids are[[{{Jerkass}} complete jerks.]] One pisses himself frequently for comedic effect, another is [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile an anthropomorphic alligator]] (presumably a carnivore too), and another is riddled with infectious disease and projectile pukes. To make it even worse, they seem to [[KarmaHoudini simply do whatever they want with no regard for others,]] are generally quite insulting and violent (two of them start a ''bar fight'') and their only skill is making clothes...[[RandomEventsPlot for some reason]]. The Old Mentor character likens them to [[SealedEvilInACan the horrors unleashe]]d by PandorasBox and they're close to personifications of the SevenDeadlySins. And the whole thing kind of reaches an extreme BrokenAesop when one realizes that the heroes just want to put them back into a tiny garbage pail...but are willing to break them out of prison and give them pep talks about how being ugly as sin and violent to boot is a-ok.

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* This is apparently the [[CluelessAesop Aesop]] we are supposed to get out of watching ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie''. Unfortunately, watching the movie kind of makes you want to punch the next non-cute you see right in the face. The eponymous Garbage Pail Kids are[[{{Jerkass}} are [[{{Jerkass}} complete jerks.]] One pisses himself frequently for comedic effect, another is [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile an anthropomorphic alligator]] (presumably a carnivore too), and another is riddled with infectious disease and projectile pukes. To make it even worse, they seem to [[KarmaHoudini simply do whatever they want with no regard for others,]] are generally quite insulting and violent (two of them start a ''bar fight'') and their only skill is making clothes...[[RandomEventsPlot for some reason]]. The Old Mentor character likens them to [[SealedEvilInACan the horrors unleashe]]d unleashed]] by PandorasBox and they're close to personifications of the SevenDeadlySins. And the whole thing kind of reaches an extreme BrokenAesop when one realizes that the heroes just want to put them back into a tiny garbage pail...but are willing to break them out of prison and give them pep talks about how being ugly as sin and violent to boot is a-ok.
3rd Mar '17 1:40:07 PM TheKoS
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* This is apparently the [[CluelessAesop Aesop]] we are supposed to get out of watching ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie''. Unfortunately, watching the movie kind of makes you want to punch the next non-cute you see right in the face. The eponymous Garbage Pail Kids are sociopaths. One pisses himself frequently for comedic effect, another is [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile an anthropomorphic alligator]] (presumably a carnivore too), and another is riddled with infectious disease and projectile pukes. To make it even worse, they seem to simply do whatever they want with no regard for others, are generally quite insulting and violent (one of them starts a ''bar fight'') and their only skill is making clothes...[[RandomEventsPlot for some reason]]. The Old Mentor character likens them to [[SealedEvilInACan the horrors unleashe]]d by PandorasBox and they're close to personifications of the SevenDeadlySins. And the whole thing kind of reaches an extreme BrokenAesop when one realizes that the heroes just want to put them back into a tiny garbage pail...but are willing to break them out of prison and give them pep talks about how being ugly as sin and violent to boot is a-ok.

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* This is apparently the [[CluelessAesop Aesop]] we are supposed to get out of watching ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie''. Unfortunately, watching the movie kind of makes you want to punch the next non-cute you see right in the face. The eponymous Garbage Pail Kids are sociopaths. are[[{{Jerkass}} complete jerks.]] One pisses himself frequently for comedic effect, another is [[NeverSmileAtACrocodile an anthropomorphic alligator]] (presumably a carnivore too), and another is riddled with infectious disease and projectile pukes. To make it even worse, they seem to [[KarmaHoudini simply do whatever they want with no regard for others, others,]] are generally quite insulting and violent (one (two of them starts start a ''bar fight'') and their only skill is making clothes...[[RandomEventsPlot for some reason]]. The Old Mentor character likens them to [[SealedEvilInACan the horrors unleashe]]d by PandorasBox and they're close to personifications of the SevenDeadlySins. And the whole thing kind of reaches an extreme BrokenAesop when one realizes that the heroes just want to put them back into a tiny garbage pail...but are willing to break them out of prison and give them pep talks about how being ugly as sin and violent to boot is a-ok.
24th Feb '17 9:19:32 PM JackG
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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to Space Girl's CutenessProximity, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute creature to save an entire planet of hideous green farting aliens? ToBeContinued...

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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to Space Girl's CutenessProximity, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute creature to save an entire planet of hideous green farting aliens? ToBeContinued...
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