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24th Feb '17 9:19:32 PM JackG
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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to Space Girl's CutenessProximity, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute creature to save an entire planet of hideous green farting aliens? ToBeContinued...

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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to Space Girl's CutenessProximity, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute creature to save an entire planet of hideous green farting aliens? ToBeContinued...
24th Feb '17 9:17:43 PM JackG
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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to this trope, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute fluffy creature to save an entire planet of [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute hideous green farting aliens]]? ToBeContinued...

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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to this trope, Space Girl's CutenessProximity, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute fluffy creature to save an entire planet of [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute hideous green farting aliens]]? aliens? ToBeContinued...
24th Feb '17 9:16:45 PM JackG
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* Lauren Francesca's ''Space Girl'' is presented with a SadisticChoice by the evil [[BrainInAJar Dr Brain]]. He's genetically engineered a cute fluffy animal designed to appeal to this trope, and wired it into the controls of his doomsday weapon. Will Space Girl sacrifice the cute fluffy creature to save an entire planet of [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute hideous green farting aliens]]? ToBeContinued...
4th Feb '17 3:20:49 AM Luppercus
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* All the nice marine animals in ''WesternAnimation/SabansAdventuresOfTheLittleMermaid'' are cute creatures like a seahorse and an oyster and all the evil animals (servants of the witch Hedwig) are non-cute looking animals like sharks, barracudas an octopus and a manta ray.

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* All the nice marine animals in ''WesternAnimation/SabansAdventuresOfTheLittleMermaid'' are cute creatures like a seahorse and an oyster otters and all the evil animals (servants of the witch Hedwig) are non-cute looking animals like sharks, barracudas an octopus and a manta ray.
29th Jan '17 10:45:57 PM Luppercus
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* Metaphorically touched in ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'': Robbie wonder why they eat clearly sentient small mammals and his family can't really understand him (as reptiles they don’t feel any empathy toward small mammals, though they do treat Neanderthals as we treat endangered species/house pets), causing him to become "herbivore" (Dinosaur version of Vegan) much to his family’s dismay. So basically they see mammals as we see reptiles. [[ShownTheirWork Very clever indeed]].

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* Metaphorically touched in ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'': Robbie wonder wonders why they eat clearly sentient small mammals and his family can't really understand him (as reptiles they don’t feel any empathy toward small mammals, though they do treat Neanderthals as we treat endangered species/house pets), causing him to become "herbivore" (Dinosaur version of Vegan) much to his family’s dismay. So basically they see mammals as we see reptiles. [[ShownTheirWork Very clever indeed]].



* All the nice marine animals in ''WesternAnimation/SabansAdventuresOfTheLittleMermaid'' are cute creatures like a seahorse and an oyster and all the evil animals (servants of the witch Hedwig) are non-cute looking animals like sharks, barracudas and octopus and a manta ray.

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* All the nice marine animals in ''WesternAnimation/SabansAdventuresOfTheLittleMermaid'' are cute creatures like a seahorse and an oyster and all the evil animals (servants of the witch Hedwig) are non-cute looking animals like sharks, barracudas and an octopus and a manta ray.
29th Jan '17 10:44:45 PM Luppercus
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* Welcome to ''Joe's Apartment'', where this trope is played with and tossed on its ear...with cute, dancing, singing cockroaches. ''Twilight of the Cockroaches'' does the same, albeit with an added World War II allegory.

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* Welcome to ''Joe's Apartment'', ''Film/JoesApartment'', where this trope is played with and tossed on its ear...with cute, dancing, singing cockroaches. ''Twilight of the Cockroaches'' ''Film/TwilightOfTheCockroaches'' does the same, albeit with an added World War II allegory.


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* Spoofed in ''Series/TheAddamsFamily'': As the family has a bizarre behavior liking everything that most normal people would dislike and vice versa, what they find cute is the exact opposite; octopus, piranhas, spiders, snakes, carnivorous plants, etc. They also have a pet lion although lions are generally included in the “cute” category so the joke is that is an adult lion that can kill you (but as the rest of the family, is harmless).
* Metaphorically touched in ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'': Robbie wonder why they eat clearly sentient small mammals and his family can't really understand him (as reptiles they don’t feel any empathy toward small mammals, though they do treat Neanderthals as we treat endangered species/house pets), causing him to become "herbivore" (Dinosaur version of Vegan) much to his family’s dismay. So basically they see mammals as we see reptiles. [[ShownTheirWork Very clever indeed]].


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* All the nice marine animals in ''WesternAnimation/SabansAdventuresOfTheLittleMermaid'' are cute creatures like a seahorse and an oyster and all the evil animals (servants of the witch Hedwig) are non-cute looking animals like sharks, barracudas and octopus and a manta ray.
25th Jan '17 11:14:20 AM jamespolk
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Piper}}'': The super-cute sandpiper appears to be sentient. The little crabs that guide the sandpiper back into the water appear to be sentient—one crab raps the sandpiper on the beak to get its attention. The clams, that the sandpiper is eating? Not so much.
1st Jan '17 9:00:24 AM BURGINABC
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* Averted with ''Anime/{{Hamtaro}}''. Granted, the main characters are cute little hamsters, but [[CatsAreMean cats generally aren't shown to be all that bad]]. You know what's really dangerous? Chickens. Especially the gang of violent, vicious, little ''baby chicks''.



* Averted in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. You have [[spoiler:chimeras of humans crossed with]] lizards, dogs, bulls, snakes, porcupines, frogs, gorillas, and lions. Cuteness doesn't turn out to be a factor in goodness. [[spoiler:Though, it may be argued none of the typically cute or cool animals are depicted as very cute in this form.]]
* Averted with the Ohmu in ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'', which despite being fearsome gargantuan bugs, are by peaceful by nature and only attack when provoked. They are also highly empathetic and caring beings. Despite their monstrous appearance, they still end up being cute. It helps that they are based on pill bugs.

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* Averted in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. You have [[spoiler:chimeras of humans crossed with]] lizards, dogs, bulls, snakes, porcupines, frogs, gorillas, and lions. Cuteness doesn't turn out to be a factor in goodness. [[spoiler:Though, it may be argued none of the typically cute or cool animals are depicted as very cute in this form.]]
* Averted with the Ohmu in ''Manga/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'', which despite being fearsome gargantuan bugs, are by peaceful by nature and only attack when provoked. They are also highly empathetic and caring beings. Despite their monstrous appearance, they still end up being cute. It helps that they are based on pill bugs.






* ''WesternAnimation/WallE'':
** The film averts this with animals: Early on in the movie, WALL•E encounters a cockroach, which quickly becomes his pet. Strangely, however, the cockroach is stylized such that it has no visible head.
** With robots it's played more straight. The most sympathetic robots like WALL-E, EVE, and MO, have endearing features such as large eyes and hands. The villainous robots, such as AUTO and GO-4, are red-eyed cyclopes with no hands or visible expressions. That said, some of the minor heroic robots have unorthodox designs; some are merely vacuums on wheels, and the intimidating [=WALL-As=], enormous [=WALL-Es=] with four GlowingEyesOfDoom, turn out to be nice guys.
* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', where rats can be both villains and heroes. For instance, Justin is about as convincingly handsome and dashing a hero as you can ever make a rat (there is a reason why "[[FetishFuel Everyone is Furry for Justin]]"). The owl is frightening in appearance, but helpful. And is there anyone as adorable as Jeremy the crow?
** More directly averted, however, in the novel, ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH,'' which is ''[[NoAntagonist devoid of villains]]''; the closest thing to a villain being a [[CatsAreMean cat by the name of Dragon]]. Jenner (the first film's BigBad) actually doesn't have an active role in the novel, and is only mentioned in flashback. Even then, he simply leaves the other rats rather than becoming a CardCarryingVillain.

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* ''WesternAnimation/WallE'':
** The film averts this with animals: Early on in the movie, WALL•E encounters a cockroach, which quickly becomes his pet. Strangely, however, the cockroach is stylized such that it has no visible head.
** With robots it's played more straight.
''WesternAnimation/WallE'': The most sympathetic robots like WALL-E, EVE, and MO, have endearing features such as large eyes and hands. The villainous robots, such as AUTO and GO-4, are red-eyed cyclopes with no hands or visible expressions. That said, some of the minor heroic robots have unorthodox designs; some are merely vacuums on wheels, and the intimidating [=WALL-As=], enormous [=WALL-Es=] with four GlowingEyesOfDoom, turn out to be nice guys.
* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', where rats can be both villains and heroes. For instance, Justin is about as convincingly handsome and dashing a hero as you can ever make a rat (there is a reason why "[[FetishFuel Everyone is Furry for Justin]]"). The owl is frightening in appearance, but helpful. And is there anyone as adorable as Jeremy the crow?
** More directly averted, however, in the novel, ''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH,'' which is ''[[NoAntagonist devoid of villains]]''; the closest thing to a villain being a [[CatsAreMean cat by the name of Dragon]]. Jenner (the first film's BigBad) actually doesn't have an active role in the novel, and is only mentioned in flashback. Even then, he simply leaves the other rats rather than becoming a CardCarryingVillain.
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* Completely averted in ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' where a pair of coelacanths (yes, they actually show coelacanths in an animated Disney movie) can actually be seen swimming in a large fish tank near the beginning of the film. Atlantis itself is populated with [[HeroicAlbino white-haired people]] and [[SeldomSeenSpecies unpopular prehistoric animals]].



* The 1967 version of ''Film/TheJungleBook'' plays this straight with Kaa, a creepy and obsequious python who repeatedly tries to eat Mowgli, [[AdaptationalVillainy in contrast with his literary counterpart]]. However, the film also averts this with the vultures, which are usually portrayed as omens of doom. The vultures here are actually friendly and help protect Mowgli from Shere Khan.



** Averted with Mossflower's bats, which are not evil at all; they're cute and friendly with an endearing VerbalTic, verbal tic, verbal tic ...
** You can't really say that the good guys are the cute ones. [[CrapSaccharineWorld ''All'' Mossflower's animals are cute]]. Or at least UglyCute.



* Averted in ''Literature/JamesAndTheGiantPeach'' where the only talking animals are [[BigCreepyCrawlies giant invertebrates]] such as a centipede, a grasshopper, and a spider. They're all kind to James and become his adoptive family. Also the movie avoided making them too cute.
* The heroes of ''Literature/CharlottesWeb'' are a humble pig and a very compassionate spider.



* Both used and averted in ''Literature/WatershipDown''. The heroes are rabbits. The major predators of rabbits are ''minor'' enemies - the BigBad is actually another rabbit (and a downright AxCrazy psycho too! [[KillerRabbit Never seen a rabbit attack a dog head on before!]]) [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ez5QPW-ku4 Rabbits are deceptively badass]].
* Averted very pointedly in the Literature/YoungWizards series. In one novel, despite being the ultimate -- perhaps the original -- predator and sporting the title of [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast The Pale Slayer]], Ed'rashtekaresket the Giant White Shark is actually a servant of the [[PowersThatBe Light]] and ultimately [[spoiler:the HeroicSacrifice that holds back the forces of decay]].



* Ernest Thompson Seton averted such things. For example, he wrote novels about adventures of a Boar, Coyote, and a Bat. A human who hunted and mistreated bats brought on himself and his family doom in the form of a {{justified|Trope}} [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped anvil]]...that is, a ''gnat''-transmitted disease.



* Plushie Cthulhu. Also [[http://www.worldofmunchkin.com/plush/medchibi/ Chibithulhu]].
* Folkmanis, a company that makes high-quality puppets, averts this. Not only do they make realistic-looking puppets of adorable puppies and kittens, but they also make puppets of tarantulas, snakes, alligators, and dragons.



* ''VideoGame/StarFox'' partially averts this. The main villains are monkeys and apes. There are several reptile enemies but the manual for the Super Nintendo game says they were enslaved. One of the bosses is a seal.
** The Star Wolf team plays this straight with the exception of Andrew. A cruel Wolf, deranged chameleon, and a greedy traitorous pig. Pigma and Andrew broke off by the time Assault rolled around, both of which were replaced by Panther Caroso. And Star Wolf now is more of a badass trio and has shown respect towards Star Fox and helps them when needed.
* Thank goodness for the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' games. Any creature can inspire a Pokémon and the series seems to have been going out of its way to showcase obscure, strange, and unpopular animals (like coelacanths). You can befriend even big scary creatures, and these tend to be the most powerful potential {{Game Breaker}}s. Additionally, your Starter tends to start out cute and become more of a monster as it levels up.
** This may be why Amity Square, in ''Diamond and Pearl'', seems so darned out of place. Not only was this the first time we, as the player, were specifically told that only certain Pokémon are "cute" in a situation played straight but many of the cute ones such as Mew, Togepi, Cubone, Pichu, Smoochum, Eevee, and Marill aren't on that list! If you happen to think your Bulbasaur or Mudkip is way more adorable than 'proto-FetishFuel bunny' and 'creepy kidnapper balloon', you're apparently a weirdo. (Granted, the news that the Park was designed around the pre-existing character sprites relieves the sting a ''little''...) It's also lampshaded by [[NightmareFetishist a guy near the entrance who complains about the discrimination against his Gyarados and Steelix]] -- two huge menacing snakelike creatures.
*** In ''[[VideoGameRemake Platinum]]'', Amity Square has been remodeled and they now allow all of that game's starters and evolved forms thereof. Apparently, a 683 pound turtle monster with bushes growing out of its back is just as cute as a little electric mouse Pokémon. It's a start.
*** ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldandSilver HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'' avert it entirely. Any Pokémon you own can follow you through any part of the game, and the big scary 'mons can do cute little dances when you talk to them. When the feature was first announced, one teaser screenshot even showed the hero with a Steelix behind him - amusingly, one of the Pokémon that the man in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum complains he can't have follow him. (Makes you wonder how [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Wailord]] manages to follow you on land.)
** The NPC trainer archetype 'Lass' has a personality built around this trope. One of them, in an earlier game, actually lampshades the 'uglier as you evolve' thing and says that she refuses to let any of her (rather high level for their species) Pokémon evolve.
** The evil teams in the main series games always use an overabundance of Poison and Dark types. Similarly, in the spin-off titles that lack humans, Ghost, Dark, and Poison type Pokemon typically end up being the bad guys.
*** ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity'' has a notable inversion of this, with the [[spoiler: cutesy, pink, floral patterned Munna]] being a major antagonist, while making the BigGood [[spoiler: Hydreigon, who's one of the most ObviouslyEvil looking Pokemon in the franchise]].
** Partially averted in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedandBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]'', as one little girl talks about how much she loves her Koffing (which is essentially a huge living ball of toxic gas).
** ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' avert this further, where any Pokemon - even the giant bees, even the living piles of toxic ooze, even the Godzilla knockoff - can be taken into the Pokemon-Amie feature to be petted, fed, and played with.



** ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'' averts the trend with the Goombas with the Chuboomba, which is chubby, has a lollipop, is generally considered cute by the fandom, and is still an enemy in the game.
** The ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' series averts this trope. Those cute Koopas? Who [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s03Kco-XQCY dance to the BGM]]? You're still allowed, still ''encouraged'', to stomp on them mercilessly and use their shells as a weapon.



* Averted in ''Webcomic/SuicideForHire'': Arcturus and Hunter look pretty cute (Arcturus in particular), but...[[ThoseTwoBadGuys well.]]



* Averted by ''Roleplay/AvatarAdventures''' Slouch. Slouch is a [[http://beachchairscientist.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/blobfish1.jpg blobfish]]. ...Yeeaahh.
** Look at 'im, he's so cute!



* Literature/SpaceBeasts: Mostly averts this with stereotypical 'cute' Animals like [[CuteKitten Cats]], Squirrels, and [[UnicornsAreSacred Unicorns]] fighting alongside stereotypical 'scary' animals like [[BatOutOfHell Bats]], [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Snakes]] and...[[SeldomSeenSpecies Cuttlefish]] but at the same time it does [[TropesAreNotBad acknowledge]] that sometimes [[PrimalFear there are reasons]] we feel repulsed by some creatures, primarily parasites and creepy crawlies in general, one of the running gags is [[NatureLover Nature Lovers]] admitting they can't find anything positive to say about tapeworms, and the {{Token Human}} Ichabod Crane ruefully admits that while he prides himself on being a FriendToAllLivingThings and loving all creatures great and small...Draws the line at maggots, they make him toss his cookies like nothing else can.



* Averted in one of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceB8rHs5l5c episodes]] of ''WesternAnimation/AsToldByGinger'' where Ginger's brother, Carl confronts his fears when a naked mole rat escapes from one of the zoo exhibits and [[SquirrelsInMyPants crawled up his pants]]. Unlike above, said mole rat is as wrinkly and unattractive as it's real-life counterpart (even mentioning it having hair in its mouth). The heartwarming moment comes when Carl loses his fear when he discovers the mole rat is even more frightened of him.



** In ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', the majority of the Maximals were mammals or birds, or fusions of the two. Dinobot and [[spoiler: Blackarachnia]] subvert this as they were incoming {{Heel Face Turn}}s. The toyline did this a lot as well, though again, subverted from time to time with the inclusion of Cybershark (a hammerhead) and Claw Jaw (a squid) for the Maximals. ''Anime/Beast Wars II'' averts this entirely as all the Maximals/Cybetrons took on animal forms whilst the Predacons turned into vehicles.

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** In ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'', the majority of the Maximals were mammals or birds, or fusions of the two. Dinobot and [[spoiler: Blackarachnia]] subvert this as they were incoming {{Heel Face Turn}}s. The toyline did this a lot as well, though again, subverted from time to time with the inclusion of Cybershark (a hammerhead) and Claw Jaw (a squid) for the Maximals. ''Anime/Beast Wars II'' averts this entirely as all the Maximals/Cybetrons took on animal forms whilst the Predacons turned into vehicles.



* Averted by ''[[Series/CrocodileHunter Steve Irwin]]'' who was essentially a living, breathing incarnation of the FriendToAllLivingThings trope. The man once gave a heartbreaking eulogy to a dying lizard.
* Anansi, a spider culture hero from West Africa, averts this. Granted, he is TheTrickster who gets others into trouble a lot...but the fact that his victims are consistently dumb enough (and often mean-spirited) to fall for his traps prevents the audience from [[WhatTheHellHero feeling sympathy for the "bad guys"]].



* Also averted harshly in that it seems the cuter the bunny, the better it will taste, with the best meat coming from the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_white_rabbit New Zealand white rabbit]].
1st Jan '17 3:48:15 AM buckmana
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* Completely averted in ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' where a pair of coelacanths (yes, they actually show coelacanths in an animated Disney movie) can actually be seen swimming in a large fish tank near the beginning of the film. Atlantis itself is populated with [[HeroicAlbino whie-haired people]] and [[SeldomSeenSpecies unpopular prehistoric animals]].

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* Completely averted in ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire'' where a pair of coelacanths (yes, they actually show coelacanths in an animated Disney movie) can actually be seen swimming in a large fish tank near the beginning of the film. Atlantis itself is populated with [[HeroicAlbino whie-haired white-haired people]] and [[SeldomSeenSpecies unpopular prehistoric animals]].
16th Dec '16 10:34:56 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians --not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina--, it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle (which none of them particularly care about).

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** "Fun with Veal" revolves around the boys getting into a standoff with the FBI to stop a bunch of calves from being slaughtered. While the episode still mocks vegetarians --not eating meat causes Stan to starting turning into a literal vagina--, vagina-- it surprisingly never calls attention to the fact that they're only going to such lengths to save the calves because they're considered cuter than adult cattle (which none of them particularly care about).
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