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2nd Dec '16 1:48:32 PM Morgenthaler
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** Sean Cassidy a.k.a. Banshee is mostly famous for screaming at people to knock them down or at the ground to (somehow) fly. The story delves into some of his lesser-known powers and the lesser-known properties of sound -- for instance, he's got a powerful CompellingVoice, he controls sound in a small area around him, so he can move in complete silence, he's got a form of superhearing that allows him to use his own footsteps as sonar and he can shatter anything if he hits its resonant frequency. Including wands, bone and diamond. Fairly formidable, even before you take into account the fact that he's had [[BadassGrandpa nearly fifty years]] to get very, very good with his powers. He's also [[OlderThanTheyLook physically about thirty]] due to a NoodleIncident involving [[ShoutOut 'a living island,]] [[ComicBook/XMen name of Krakoa']] and a {{Badass}} of note, who's prepared for his powers being nullified by training in hand to hand. Natasha notes that he's a particularly skilled practitioner of Aikido.

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** Sean Cassidy a.k.a. Banshee is mostly famous for screaming at people to knock them down or at the ground to (somehow) fly. The story delves into some of his lesser-known powers and the lesser-known properties of sound -- for instance, he's got a powerful CompellingVoice, he controls sound in a small area around him, so he can move in complete silence, he's got a form of superhearing that allows him to use his own footsteps as sonar and he can shatter anything if he hits its resonant frequency. Including wands, bone and diamond. Fairly formidable, even before you take into account the fact that he's had [[BadassGrandpa nearly fifty years]] to get very, very good with his powers. He's also [[OlderThanTheyLook physically about thirty]] due to a NoodleIncident involving [[ShoutOut 'a living island,]] [[ComicBook/XMen name of Krakoa']] and a {{Badass}} badass of note, who's prepared for his powers being nullified by training in hand to hand. Natasha notes that he's a particularly skilled practitioner of Aikido.
1st Dec '16 5:04:52 AM Morgenthaler
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** Subverted with Cypher/Doug Ramsey, whose power is to understand ''ANY'' language, even body language, or code, making him now quite the {{Badass}} as he can even foresee his opponents' movements (as long as he can "read" a pattern), or find the weak point of architectural structures. Any "language" was also shown early on to include computer languages, making him the best computer programmer the X-Men have ever seen. He's a character who was vindicated as TechnologyMarchesOn. Originally, he was an {{Omniglot}} without the skill or MadeOfIron-ness to let him be a BadassNormal. [[HumongousMecha Sentinels]] versus the ability to speak French without having to buy Rosetta Stone is ''every bit the CurbStompBattle you'd expect,'' to the point that in the end it was decided that he was much more useful to the plot as a [[ILetGwenStacyDie fallen friend to occasionally angst over not having been able to save]]. However, all forms of computer code being a language he knows instinctively is much more useful since he was brought BackFromTheDead in TheNewTens than it was back in TheEighties (he stopped Master Mold in ''Second Coming'' just by communicating with his source code - and that was while the Mold was attempting to ''swallow'' him!), and also, BadassNormal via body language reading is more often used. He just came along two or three decades too early, but ''now'' his time has come. Unlike the others on this list, he didn't need his powers changed to [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badass]].

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** Subverted with Cypher/Doug Ramsey, whose power is to understand ''ANY'' language, even body language, or code, making him now quite the {{Badass}} badass as he can even foresee his opponents' movements (as long as he can "read" a pattern), or find the weak point of architectural structures. Any "language" was also shown early on to include computer languages, making him the best computer programmer the X-Men have ever seen. He's a character who was vindicated as TechnologyMarchesOn. Originally, he was an {{Omniglot}} without the skill or MadeOfIron-ness to let him be a BadassNormal. [[HumongousMecha Sentinels]] versus the ability to speak French without having to buy Rosetta Stone is ''every bit the CurbStompBattle you'd expect,'' to the point that in the end it was decided that he was much more useful to the plot as a [[ILetGwenStacyDie fallen friend to occasionally angst over not having been able to save]]. However, all forms of computer code being a language he knows instinctively is much more useful since he was brought BackFromTheDead in TheNewTens than it was back in TheEighties (he stopped Master Mold in ''Second Coming'' just by communicating with his source code - and that was while the Mold was attempting to ''swallow'' him!), and also, BadassNormal via body language reading is more often used. He just came along two or three decades too early, but ''now'' his time has come. Unlike the others on this list, he didn't need his powers changed to [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badass]].
24th Nov '16 10:24:17 PM merotoker
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** The Invisible Woman originally only had the power to… be invisible. It got so bad that one issue's main story was made shorter to allow room to ''try to justify Sue's existence'' after all the letters they'd gotten. The best [[Creator/StanLee The Man himself]] could do is "a pretty girl inspires the boys to fight harder." (They also pointed out that one time she invisibly tripped a lone, fleeing Skrull. They forgot to mention that her male teammates had each dispatched several fighting-mad Skrull.) After it became obvious that she was useless as an action hero in her current form, creators Stan Lee and Creator/JackKirby gave her the additional powers of making other objects/people invisible and projecting telekinetic force fields (making sure to call them ''invisible'' force fields instead of merely force fields every time they're used to try making it less obvious that it's got little to do with invisibility.) Wasn't until the Creator/JohnByrne period that she found [[ImaginationBasedSuperpower many different uses]] for the force fields, such as powerful attack (suffocating an enemy inside a force field, creating a field ''inside'' an enemy and expanding it until they explode, etc,) and as a mode of transportation. As such, Susan is now usually considered not only the most powerful member of the team, but one of the most powerful characters in the entire Marvel universe, and her personality has [[TookALevelInBadass changed accordingly]], as she realized she didn't need to bow to anyone.

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** The Invisible Woman originally only had the power to… be invisible. It got so bad that one issue's main story was made shorter to allow room to ''try to justify Sue's existence'' after all the letters they'd gotten. The best [[Creator/StanLee The Man himself]] could do is "a pretty girl inspires the boys to fight harder." (They also pointed out that one time she invisibly tripped a lone, fleeing Skrull. They forgot to mention that her male teammates had each dispatched several fighting-mad Skrull.) After it became obvious that she was useless as an action hero in her current form, creators Stan Lee and Creator/JackKirby gave her the additional powers of making other objects/people invisible and projecting telekinetic force fields (making sure to call them ''invisible'' force fields instead of merely force fields every time they're used to try making it less obvious that it's got little to do with invisibility.) Wasn't until the Creator/JohnByrne period that she found [[ImaginationBasedSuperpower many different uses]] for the force fields, such as powerful attack (suffocating an enemy inside a force field, creating a field ''inside'' an enemy and expanding it until they explode, etc,) and as a mode of transportation. As such, Susan is now usually considered not only the most powerful member of the team, but one of the most powerful characters in the entire Marvel universe, Franchise/MarvelUniverse, and her personality has [[TookALevelInBadass changed accordingly]], as she realized she didn't need to bow to anyone.



** And in The Ultimate universe, where her neurological knowledge means that she can attack people's brains. In addition, in Ultimate Canon, she is a mutant and can do the "Wasp Stings" innately at full size, where they are painful and cause nerves to go numb.

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** And in The [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel the Ultimate universe, universe]], where her neurological knowledge means that she can attack people's brains. In addition, in Ultimate Canon, she is a mutant and can do the "Wasp Stings" innately at full size, where they are painful and cause nerves to go numb.



** For a ''lesser'' example (which just goes to show how bad these situations ''could'' be), when we first met Comicbook/JeanGrey, her powers were only good for levitating as much as she could physically carry. She was considerably more useful than day-one Sue and Wasp, but compared to Beast, Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}, and Iceman, her powers weren't so great. Even Angel ''made'' more of a non-combat power (having flight alone ''should'' make you a bullet sponge, but with incredible agility, high flying speeds, and super-strong wings, he could kick some ''serious'' evil mutant posterior even pre-Archangel.) to the degree that Jean fell behind. However, she had incredible precision with her powers, and the 'school' theme means, like her teammates, she became stronger and more skilled with her powers as time went. Eventually, she became so powerful that she reached HumanoidAbomination levels...at least before the {{retcon}} hit. But even after that she's still one of the most powerful mutants.

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** For a ''lesser'' example (which just goes to show how bad these situations ''could'' be), when we first met Comicbook/JeanGrey, her powers were only good for levitating as much as she could physically carry. She was considerably more useful than day-one Sue and Wasp, but compared to Beast, Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}, and Iceman, Comicbook/{{Iceman}}, her powers weren't so great. Even Angel ''made'' more of a non-combat power (having flight alone ''should'' make you a bullet sponge, but with incredible agility, high flying speeds, and super-strong wings, he could kick some ''serious'' evil mutant posterior even pre-Archangel.) to the degree that Jean fell behind. However, she had incredible precision with her powers, and the 'school' theme means, like her teammates, she became stronger and more skilled with her powers as time went. Eventually, she became so powerful that she reached HumanoidAbomination levels...at least before the {{retcon}} hit. But even after that she's still one of the most powerful mutants.



** ComicBook/{{Rogue}} has the ability of PowerCopying any mutant she comes in contact with, and even with non-mutants can gain some of their memories and any special skills they may have (like playing football or martial arts) for short time. While this sounds cool in theory, Rogue's ability also has the side-effect of harming her target, which can range from knocking them out to killing them outright, regardless of whether said person is a friend or an enemy. As such, it's not uncommon for Rogue to remain almost completely covered up to prevent accidental use of her powers, and even otherwise, to rarely want to use her powers in fear of actually hurting someone she didn't intend to. Her powers are often shown as being so inconvenient that the only way writers seemed to have to make her useful to the team is for her to accidentally permanently kill someone and use ''their'' powers instead, like with Ms. Marvel or Sunfire. While sometimes Rogue's powers change to be more useful on their own (like when she could, for a short time, recall ''any'' power she had previously absorbed regardless of how long she touched her target), her abilities always seem to default back to the "almost kill to gain their powers so I never want to use it" method. To be fair, Rogue's powers are only lame ''because'' she doesn't want to kill and has no control over them to keep from killing; the ability to copy anyone's power in a world populated by superheroes, supervillians, and mutants would be an awesome power otherwise.

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** ComicBook/{{Rogue}} has the ability of PowerCopying any mutant she comes in contact with, and even with non-mutants can gain some of their memories and any special skills they may have (like playing football or martial arts) for short time. While this sounds cool in theory, Rogue's ability also has the side-effect of harming her target, which can range from knocking them out to killing them outright, regardless of whether said person is a friend or an enemy. As such, it's not uncommon for Rogue to remain almost completely covered up to prevent accidental use of her powers, and even otherwise, to rarely want to use her powers in fear of actually hurting someone she didn't intend to. Her powers are often shown as being so inconvenient that the only way writers seemed to have to make her useful to the team is for her to accidentally permanently kill someone and use ''their'' powers instead, like with Ms. Marvel Comicbook/MsMarvel or Sunfire. While sometimes Rogue's powers change to be more useful on their own (like when she could, for a short time, recall ''any'' power she had previously absorbed regardless of how long she touched her target), her abilities always seem to default back to the "almost kill to gain their powers so I never want to use it" method. To be fair, Rogue's powers are only lame ''because'' she doesn't want to kill and has no control over them to keep from killing; the ability to copy anyone's power in a world populated by superheroes, supervillians, and mutants would be an awesome power otherwise.



** Prodigy from ''[[Comicbook/NewMutants New X-Men]]'' had similar limitations. He could absorb the knowledge of those around him, ''but not actually retain any of it'' once they left. He later learned that his mind had psychic blocks in place to prevent him from keeping any of the knowledge he absorbed, for fears that [[WellIntentionedExtremist it would cause him to become an amoral tyrant]]. However, once he lost his powers following ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', the Stepford Cuckoos removed his blocks, allowing him to access all of the knowledge he'd absorbed beforehand.

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** Prodigy from ''[[Comicbook/NewMutants New X-Men]]'' ''Comicbook/NewXMenAcademyX'' had similar limitations. He could absorb the knowledge of those around him, ''but not actually retain any of it'' once they left. He later learned that his mind had psychic blocks in place to prevent him from keeping any of the knowledge he absorbed, for fears that [[WellIntentionedExtremist it would cause him to become an amoral tyrant]]. However, once he lost his powers following ''ComicBook/HouseOfM'', the Stepford Cuckoos removed his blocks, allowing him to access all of the knowledge he'd absorbed beforehand.



->'''O'Doherty''': Sometimes when I'm cycling with my headphones on, I know exactly where I'll be at the end of a song.

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->'''O'Doherty''': -->'''O'Doherty''': Sometimes when I'm cycling with my headphones on, I know exactly where I'll be at the end of a song.



** Later {{subverted|Trope}} when the power of the Hero of Heart is elaborated upon by [[spoiler:Calliope]], the Guardian's [[spoiler:Cherub]] guide. Apparently Heart is effectively the same as [[spoiler:Soul]], which, combined with the powers of the Hero's class, makes the often thought innocent lolcat and fangirl parody Nepeta the [[spoiler:[[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Stealer of Souls]]]] and [[spoiler:Dirk Strider, the Prince of Heart, the [[AwesomeMcCoolname Destroyer of Souls]]]]. Later he is shown being able to [[spoiler:rip the soul from someones body which apparently is very painful]].

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** Later {{subverted|Trope}} when the power of the Hero of Heart is elaborated upon by [[spoiler:Calliope]], the Guardian's [[spoiler:Cherub]] guide. Apparently Heart is effectively the same as [[spoiler:Soul]], which, combined with the powers of the Hero's class, makes the often thought innocent lolcat and fangirl parody Nepeta the [[spoiler:[[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Stealer of Souls]]]] and [[spoiler:Dirk Strider, the Prince of Heart, the [[AwesomeMcCoolname Destroyer of Souls]]]]. Later he is shown being able to [[spoiler:rip the soul from someones someone's body which apparently is very painful]].



** Later, it turned out that Krosp was [[spoiler: actually supposed to command his creator's army of bears.]]

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** Later, it turned out that Krosp was [[spoiler: actually supposed to command his creator's army of bears.]]bears]].



** Princess Cadance, in spite of being a alicorn princess, has amazingly specialized magic: Love magic (this is likely having to do with [[ExecutiveMeddling Lauren Faust having meant her to be a unicorn]]). Mostly used for mending broken hearts, she does however turn her talent into HeartIsAnAwesomePower when she uses her love for Shining Armor to power up his bubble shield magic. She's been seen using other spells more often lately, though.

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** Princess Cadance, in spite of being a an alicorn princess, has amazingly specialized magic: Love magic (this is likely having to do with [[ExecutiveMeddling Lauren Faust having meant her to be a unicorn]]). Mostly used for mending broken hearts, she does however turn her talent into HeartIsAnAwesomePower when she uses her love for Shining Armor to power up his bubble shield magic. She's been seen using other spells more often lately, though.



* In ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Nuthin' Special," Buttercup vainly tries to show off a power she can call her own, only for Blossom and Bubbles to duplicate it. Defeatedly and defiantly, she sticks her tongue out at them, curling it as she does. Blossom and Bubbles are dumbfounded by this and try to curl ''their'' tongues, to no avail. Nobody else in Townsville can either, with overjoys Buttercup to no end. Her sisters and the narrator don't see what the fuss is about since it's not a power per se, but Buttercup still finds victory in being able to do something nobody else can.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' episode "Nuthin' Special," Buttercup vainly tries to show off a power she can call her own, only for Blossom and Bubbles to duplicate it. Defeatedly and defiantly, she sticks her tongue out at them, curling it as she does. Blossom and Bubbles are dumbfounded by this and try to curl ''their'' tongues, to no avail. Nobody else in Townsville can either, with which overjoys Buttercup to no end. Her sisters and the narrator don't see what the fuss is about since it's not a power per se, but Buttercup still finds victory in being able to do something nobody else can.



* Wheeler of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet'' is even ''more'' useless than Ma-ti, the TropeNamer himself. On the surface having a flamethrower available to use at will sounds like a fantastic power... until you realize that he's on an edutainment show that is very strictly monitored by [[MoralGuardians broadcast standards and practices.]] As a result, he was never allowed to set ''anyone or anything'' on fire.

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* Wheeler of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|AndThePlaneteers}}'' is even ''more'' useless than Ma-ti, Ma-Ti, the TropeNamer {{Trope Namer|s}} himself. On the surface having a flamethrower available to use at will sounds like a fantastic power... until you realize that he's on an edutainment show that is very strictly monitored by [[MoralGuardians broadcast standards and practices.]] As a result, he was never allowed to set ''anyone or anything'' on fire.
21st Nov '16 10:21:00 PM CASCHero
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Henchgirl}}'', Mary's roommate, Tina, reveals she has the power to make carrots come out of her wrists. Later in the series, she finds out she can animate them.
6th Oct '16 4:16:59 PM Az_Tech341
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*** Not to mention Gomamon's fish-summoning power has no end of uses: Saving the team from a plummet, functioning as a makeshift raft, pushing an island back to shore, distracting the enemy, saving the 'mons from a net. And it even works when Gomamon is in places like a gym, a swimming pool, or a coliseum in the middle of a freaking desert.

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*** Not to mention Gomamon's fish-summoning power has no end of uses: Saving saving the team from a plummet, functioning as a makeshift raft, pushing an island back to shore, distracting the enemy, saving the 'mons from a net. And it even works when Gomamon is in places like a gym, a swimming pool, or a coliseum colosseum in the middle of a freaking desert.
5th Oct '16 3:03:24 PM Scorntex
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** There was an episode where used his attack in a ''gym''.

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** There was *** Not to mention Gomamon's fish-summoning power has no end of uses: Saving the team from a plummet, functioning as a makeshift raft, pushing an episode where used his attack island back to shore, distracting the enemy, saving the 'mons from a net. And it even works when Gomamon is in places like a ''gym''.gym, a swimming pool, or a coliseum in the middle of a freaking desert.
13th Sep '16 10:36:10 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Family Guy Viewer Mail #1", the Griffin family all get superpowers. As the ButtMonkey of the series, Meg is saddled with fingernail growth. ("Is that all you can do?")[[note]]FridgeHorror ends up helping her out -- she could easily tear off chunks of flesh -- but since this is ''Family Guy'' they don't bother exploring it.[[/note]]

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Family Guy Viewer Mail #1", the Griffin family all get superpowers. As the ButtMonkey of the series, Meg is saddled with fingernail growth. ("Is that all you can do?")[[note]]FridgeHorror ends up helping being able to extend and retract her out -- fingernails. When she could easily tear off chunks of flesh -- but since this is ''Family Guy'' they don't bother exploring it.[[/note]]scratches someone with her fingernails, it doesn't even draw blood.
13th Sep '16 10:27:07 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Parodied in a recurring sketch which features the exploits of the crime-fighting duo BMX Bandit (who can ride a BMX bike really well) and the Angel Summoner (who can summon a horde of celestial superbeings to do his bidding); each adventure would begin with BMX Bandit suggesting an over-complicated primarily BMX-based strategy to deal with the threat they were facing (kidnappers, drug-runners, terrorists), only for Angel Summoner to reluctantly point out that it'd be a lot easier if ''he'' just summoned a horde of angels to do it instead. Needless to say, the latter usually proves a lot more useful... which gives Bandit a severe inferiority complex. Finally, BMX Bandit does get to use his skills, prompted by Angel Summoner who's eager to make him feel an equal part of the team, despite the utter unsuitability of the situation -- and dies in the process[[note]]In fairness, his death happens only because he refused the help of a couple of angels that Angel Summoner had sent along as back-up. While they were carrying him over a gulf between two buildings. Which ended up exactly as you'd expect.[[/note]]. One suspects that BMX Bandit's replacement, Gymkhana Girl, was similarly surplus to requirements.

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** Parodied in a recurring sketch which features the exploits of the crime-fighting duo BMX Bandit (who can ride a BMX bike really well) and the Angel Summoner (who can summon a horde of celestial superbeings to do his bidding); each adventure would begin with BMX Bandit suggesting an over-complicated primarily BMX-based strategy to deal with use his BMX skills to defeat the threat they were facing (kidnappers, drug-runners, terrorists), villains, only for Angel Summoner to reluctantly point out that it'd be a lot easier if ''he'' just summoned a horde of angels to do it instead. Needless to say, the latter usually proves a lot more useful... which gives Bandit a severe inferiority complex. Finally, BMX Bandit does get to use his skills, prompted by When the duo faces a particularly dangerous criminal group, Angel Summoner who's eager to make him feel an equal part of the team, despite the utter unsuitability of the situation -- and dies in the process[[note]]In fairness, his death happens only because he refused the help of a couple of angels insists that Angel Summoner had sent along as back-up. While they were carrying him over a gulf between two buildings. Which ended BMX Bandit get to participate. The suddenly less-optimistic BMX Bandit ends up exactly as you'd expect.[[/note]]. getting killed. One suspects that BMX Bandit's replacement, Gymkhana Girl, was is similarly surplus to requirements.useless.
13th Sep '16 9:52:15 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* In ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', some vampires gain genuine supernatural powers, while others just have a natural trait magnified. The latter circumstance tends to suck. Carlisle got stuck with compassion, Esme with ThePowerOfLove, and Rosalie with beauty. Which in some worlds would be at least unusual traits for vampires to possess at all, but here just makes them...nicer. Then there's Victoria, who had her self-preservation instinct enhanced. Yes, some vampires gain the ability to cause pain at will, read minds, create illusions, while she gets not wanting to die slightly more than people already don't want to die. It's not as though her power even stopped her from embarking on incredibly dangerous tasks, like the one that, say, got her killed.
** That's not a valid interpretation of Victoria's power, as that enhanced self-preservation instinct acts along the lines of a SpiderSense. [[TheFilmOfTheBook The film version]] of ''Eclipse'' shows how effective this power is, as it allows Victoria to evade and escape both the shape-shifters and the Cullens in a high-speed chase... and in the books, Victoria's backstory explains how this allowed her to escape ''a full-on attack of her coven by the Volturi.''
** Also, Stephanie Meyer explains that killing a vampire's mate acts as a BerserkButton. This explains the IdiotBall handed to several vampires in the series, such as Victoria's attempt to fight Edward and Seth at the same time, Irina's going to the Volturi with news of Renesmee in retaliation for Laurent's death, and [[WhatAnIdiot (most spectacularly)]] Edward attempting to commit suicide after Bella's (supposed) death by exposing himself to humans on the Volturi's doorstep.
** Marcus, anyone? The guy has the power TO SEE RELATIONSHIPS. I know it is intended to be more like a "relation-meter", but still...NO.
*** [[StuffedIntoTheFridge If you know who your enemy loves]], [[HeroicBSOD you know how to hurt them the most]].
** Renesmee. Born from the two characters with greatest powers in the series (second only to Alice), she inverts our expectations completely. Literally. She inverts their powers. And what is the inverse of a mindreader and a mindshielder? A girl who can... show her own thoughts and who can't be blocked out from anyone. Keep in mind that her mother is the only one that last part is useful on, and later on Bella learns to take down her shield anyway, rendering it completely useless. Any thoughts of using it to relay information is wiped out by the fact that she has to touch her targets, at which point she might as well say it verbally like a normal person. Her power literally only has social purposes. If that doesn't fit the definition of heart, I don't know what does.
*** Interestingly, it seems to be mainly the female vampires whose powers suck. Carlisle is immune to the vampiric bloodthirst, which makes him quite unique until Bella turns up and everyone kind of gets used to the scent of her blood. The power to see relationships doesn't suck as much as "beauty" or "self-preservation instinct"...at least an evil vampire can use it to more effectively blackmail people by taking their love interest hostage, even if they try to avoid that by lying about their relationships.
*** In the case of "beauty" - not true. Even in RealLife, we see ''countless'' examples of how incredible good looks allow those so gifted to manipulate people more easily - and in ''[[Literature/{{Twilight}} The Twilight Saga]]'', the enhancing of physical appearance is an adaptation that allows vampires to more effectively lure in and trap their primary food source - humans. Being incredibly beautiful is a highly effective ability, as it gives vampires the ability to manipulate and feed upon their food sources almost at will.
*** Even Alice's power, that to be able to see the future or events taking place continents away, seems to work differently every time it factors into the plot, and gets much less useful further into the series where it's revealed that if you know she's watching there are ways to stay off her radar, and that she can't see anything involving species she's never been (like werewolves and half-vampires). Yet, the characters still talk about her as if she's infallible and nobody can plot against them with her around.
*** These 'blind spots' are less PowerIncontinence and more of savvy (in the case of the Volturi - knowing the leaders will be 'watched', others are allowed to act independently) and Victoria (whose SpiderSense leads her to do the same by having Riley act on his own as the lead of the newborn army). Regardless of it's shortcomings, Alice's precognition is immensely effective, as it has allowed the Cullens to amass a fortune in the tens of billions... and is ''still'' so coveted by Aro that he brings '''the entirety of the Volturi''' to attempt to destroy the Cullens and claim her.
*** [[EnfantTerrible Jane]] and her [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AgonyBeam mental-torture power]] seems to be one of few examples of females averting this trope.

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* In ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', some vampires gain genuine supernatural powers, while others just have a natural trait magnified. The latter circumstance tends to suck. Carlisle got stuck with compassion, Esme with ThePowerOfLove, Marcus can see relationships, and Rosalie with beauty. Which in some worlds would be at least unusual traits for vampires to possess at all, but here just makes them...nicer. Then there's Victoria, who had her self-preservation instinct enhanced. Yes, some vampires gain the ability to cause pain at will, read minds, create illusions, while she gets not wanting to die slightly more than people already don't want to die. It's not as though her power even stopped her from embarking on incredibly dangerous tasks, like the one that, say, got her killed.
** That's not a valid interpretation of Victoria's power, as that enhanced self-preservation instinct acts along the lines of a SpiderSense. [[TheFilmOfTheBook The film version]] of ''Eclipse'' shows how effective this power is, as it allows Victoria to evade and escape both the shape-shifters and the Cullens in a high-speed chase... and in the books, Victoria's backstory explains how this allowed her to escape ''a full-on attack of her coven by the Volturi.''
** Also, Stephanie Meyer explains that killing a vampire's mate acts as a BerserkButton. This explains the IdiotBall handed to several vampires in the series, such as Victoria's attempt to fight Edward and Seth at the same time, Irina's going to the Volturi with news of
beauty. Renesmee in retaliation for Laurent's death, and [[WhatAnIdiot (most spectacularly)]] Edward attempting to commit suicide after Bella's (supposed) death by exposing himself to humans on the Volturi's doorstep.
** Marcus, anyone? The guy has the power TO SEE RELATIONSHIPS. I know it is intended to be more like a "relation-meter", but still...NO.
*** [[StuffedIntoTheFridge If you know who your enemy loves]], [[HeroicBSOD you know how to hurt them the most]].
** Renesmee. Born from the two characters with greatest powers in the series (second only to Alice), she inverts our expectations completely. Literally. She inverts their powers. And what is the inverse of a mindreader and a mindshielder? A girl who can...
can show her own thoughts to people she touches and who can't be blocked out from anyone. Keep in mind that her mother is the only one that last part is useful on, and later on Bella learns to take down her shield anyway, rendering it completely useless. Any thoughts of using it to relay information is wiped out by the fact that she has to touch her targets, at which point she might as well say it verbally like a normal person. Her power literally only has social purposes. If that doesn't fit the definition of heart, I don't know what does.
*** Interestingly, it seems to be mainly the female vampires whose powers suck. Carlisle is immune to the vampiric bloodthirst, which makes him quite unique until Bella turns up and everyone kind of gets used to the scent of her blood. The power to see relationships doesn't suck as much as "beauty" or "self-preservation instinct"...at least an evil vampire can use it to more effectively blackmail people by taking their love interest hostage, even if they try to avoid that by lying about their relationships.
*** In the case of "beauty" - not true. Even in RealLife, we see ''countless'' examples of how incredible good looks allow those so gifted to manipulate people more easily - and in ''[[Literature/{{Twilight}} The Twilight Saga]]'', the enhancing of physical appearance is an adaptation that allows vampires to more effectively lure in and trap their primary food source - humans. Being incredibly beautiful is a highly effective ability, as it gives vampires the ability to manipulate and feed upon their food sources almost at will.
*** Even Alice's power, that to be able to see the future or events taking place continents away, seems to work differently every time it factors into the plot, and gets much less useful further into the series where it's revealed that if you know she's watching there are ways to stay off her radar, and that she can't see anything involving species she's never been (like werewolves and half-vampires). Yet, the characters still talk about her as if she's infallible and nobody can plot against them with her around.
*** These 'blind spots' are less PowerIncontinence and more of savvy (in the case of the Volturi - knowing the leaders will be 'watched', others are allowed to act independently) and Victoria (whose SpiderSense leads her to do the same by having Riley act on his own as the lead of the newborn army). Regardless of it's shortcomings, Alice's precognition is immensely effective, as it has allowed the Cullens to amass a fortune in the tens of billions... and is ''still'' so coveted by Aro that he brings '''the entirety of the Volturi''' to attempt to destroy the Cullens and claim her.
*** [[EnfantTerrible Jane]] and her [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AgonyBeam mental-torture power]] seems to be one of few examples of females averting this trope.
4th Sep '16 2:08:57 PM Yib
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