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14th Aug '17 5:51:47 PM GhostLad
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* A minor character introduced in ''TabletopGame/TheDresdenFiles RPG'' can see through drywall. Nothing else. Just drywall.


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* ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh_zios6nIU USELESS SUPERPOWERS]]'' is a [=YouTube=] video highlighting some super heroes with really bad powers, such as Semi-Transparent Man, who can still be seen, and AOL, who can connect to the internet (eventually).
10th Aug '17 10:42:09 AM RichardX1
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* The Vice President of the United States of America is supposed to be the second most powerful job in the US government, right? But usually the only thing he does that isn't ceremonial is cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate. Unless the top spot suddenly becomes vacant, VP is a pretty powerless position. The office of VP was even used as a dumping ground for unwanted politicians (as the job for handpicked successor at the time was Secretary of State), and quite often the VP was kept in the dark about important things, such as what was going on while the nation was at war. This has seriously backfired a few times, like when the unwanted politician (UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt) inherited the top job, or when UsefulNotes/JohnTyler suddenly gained it despite only being expected to scoop up southern votes. It's a case of CommonKnowledge. The President was never intended to be the "most powerful job in the US government" nor the Vice President be the "second most powerful job." The executive branch was set up to be the ''weakest'' branch of the government. The purpose of the executive branch is to enforce the laws. However, UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson realized the veto power given to the president when he believes a law is unenforceable was a valuable bargaining chip, which every president has since used to pass their own agendas. The only reason the Vice President's office exists is to create a clear line of succession to a person that has no major duties in the government. [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} That, and protect the space-time continuum. Read the Constitution]]. The Vice President was, until the passage of the 12th amendment, awarded to the loser of the Presidential election. The lack of power was by design, in those days. Though by "loser," it was less often the candidate of the opposing party, and instead the candidate of the SAME party. Electors voted for two candidates, and one elector would abstain from voting a second time. Then they realized this was dumb, and changed it so that the Vice President would be on the same ticket of the President. The irony of this is, the House Speaker is ''third'' in line for the Presidency, and ''his'' job has ''far'' more formal responsibilities than the Vice President.

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* The Vice President of the United States of America is supposed to be the second most powerful job in the US government, right? But usually the only thing he does that isn't ceremonial is cast tiebreaking votes in the Senate. Unless the top spot suddenly becomes vacant, VP is a pretty powerless position. The office of VP was even used as a dumping ground for unwanted politicians (as the job for handpicked successor at the time was Secretary of State), and quite often the VP was kept in the dark about important things, such as what was going on while the nation was at war. This has seriously backfired a few times, like when the unwanted politician (UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt) inherited the top job, or when UsefulNotes/JohnTyler suddenly gained it despite only being expected to scoop up southern votes. It's a case of CommonKnowledge. The President was never intended to be the "most powerful job in the US government" nor the Vice President be the "second most powerful job." The executive branch was set up to be the ''weakest'' branch of the government. The purpose of the executive branch is to enforce the laws. However, UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson realized the veto power given to the president when he believes a law is unenforceable was a valuable bargaining chip, which every president has since used to pass their own agendas. The only reason the Vice President's office exists is to create a clear line of succession to a person that has no major duties in the government. [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} That, and protect the space-time continuum. Read the Constitution]]. The Vice President was, until the passage of the 12th amendment, awarded to the loser of the Presidential election. [[note]]It was the same mentality now used for beauty pageants: "If the winner should be unable to continue holding their title, the runner-up will take their place."[[/note]] The lack of power was by design, in those days. Though by "loser," it was less often the candidate of the opposing party, and instead the candidate of the SAME party. Electors voted for two candidates, and one elector would abstain from voting a second time. Then they realized this was dumb, and changed it so that the Vice President would be on the same ticket of the President. The irony of this is, the House Speaker is ''third'' in line for the Presidency, and ''his'' job has ''far'' more formal responsibilities than the Vice President.
3rd Aug '17 6:32:09 AM Wooboo
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* Weapons made to fire exclusively underwater are often the victims of this trope. Of these weapons were originally intended to combat other divers while underwater in counter-sabotage roles, stopping other frogmen from planting mines or explosives. The problem arises that traditional firearms don't work well (or often times, at all) underwater, which means that underwater firearms often need to utilize ammunition and ignition systems that conversely do not work very well on the surface, such as metal darts propelled by compressed air. Because of this, a diver would find themselves in the difficult position of choosing between being defenseless in the water, or defenseless on the surface. In addition, these weapons are often mechanically complex, cumbersome and operate at such limited ranges [[BoringButPractical you'd be better off with a knife]]. And because the UsefulNotes/ColdWar never went hot, the threat of combating enemy divers was at best of limited importance. One of the rare [[SubvertedTrope subversions]] to this trope would be the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-DT_amphibious_rifle ASM-DT]] of Russia, which uses two magazine feed slots to allow an operator to switch between metal darts for underwater and rifle cartridges for surface use.

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* Weapons made to fire exclusively underwater are often the victims of this trope. Of these These weapons were originally intended to combat other divers while underwater in counter-sabotage roles, stopping other frogmen from planting mines underwater, such as divers attempting to arm or explosives.disarm explosives on ships, or special forces soldiers infiltrating through waterways. The problem arises that traditional firearms don't work well (or often times, at all) underwater, which means that underwater firearms often need to utilize ammunition and ignition systems that conversely do not work very well on the surface, such as metal darts propelled by compressed air. Because of this, a diver would find themselves in the difficult position of choosing between being defenseless in the water, or defenseless on the surface.surface, or at the very least lugging around an additional bit of weighty equipment you weren't going to see much use out of and can't just throw aside as they are often specialized and expensive. In addition, these weapons are often mechanically complex, cumbersome and operate at such limited ranges [[BoringButPractical you'd be better off with a knife]]. And because the UsefulNotes/ColdWar never went hot, the threat of combating enemy armed divers was at best of limited importance.has become increasingly unlikely. One of the rare [[SubvertedTrope subversions]] to this trope would be the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-DT_amphibious_rifle ASM-DT]] of Russia, which uses two magazine feed slots to allow an operator to switch between metal darts for underwater and rifle cartridges for surface use.
3rd Aug '17 6:24:38 AM Wooboo
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* Weapons made to fire exclusively underwater are often the victims of this trope. Of these weapons were originally intended to combat other divers while underwater in counter-sabotage roles, stopping other frogmen from planting mines or explosives. The problem arises that traditional firearms don't work well (or often times, at all) underwater, which means that underwater firearms often need to utilize ammunition and ignition systems that conversely do not work very well on the surface, such as metal darts propelled by compressed air. Because of this, a diver would find themselves in the difficult position of choosing between being defenseless in the water, or defenseless on the surface. In addition, these weapons are often mechanically complex, cumbersome and operate at such limited ranges [[BoringButPractical you'd be better off with a knife]]. And because the UsefulNotes/ColdWar never went hot, the threat of combating enemy divers was at best of limited importance. One of the rare [[SubvertedTrope subversions]] to this trope would be the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASM-DT_amphibious_rifle ASM-DT]] of Russia, which uses two magazine feed slots to allow an operator to switch between metal darts for underwater and rifle cartridges for surface use.
21st Jul '17 3:00:29 PM MBG159
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** Padparadscha Sapphire, in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', possesses the same future vision powers as [[{{Seers}} other Sapphires]], but is defective in some manner, delaying her visions. As a result, she can only "predict" something several seconds after it's occurred, which she mostly uses to [[CaptainObvious happily announce events that just happened]].

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** * Padparadscha Sapphire, in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', possesses the same future vision powers as [[{{Seers}} other Sapphires]], but is defective in some manner, delaying her visions. As a result, she can only "predict" something several seconds after it's occurred, which she mostly uses to [[CaptainObvious happily announce events that just happened]].
21st Jul '17 2:59:30 PM MBG159
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** The Entropomancer's capstone ability is to duplicate the effects of the rare artifact, the Talisman of the Sphere. What does it do? It increases your bonus to control a Sphere of Annihilation. Spheres of Annihilation are, if anything, rarer than Talismans, [[LostTechnology can't be made or bought]], and anyone who owns one isn't going to give it to you. If the DM doesn't put a Sphere in the campaign setting, the feature is completely useless.


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** Padparadscha Sapphire, in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', possesses the same future vision powers as [[{{Seers}} other Sapphires]], but is defective in some manner, delaying her visions. As a result, she can only "predict" something several seconds after it's occurred, which she mostly uses to [[CaptainObvious happily announce events that just happened]].
12th Jul '17 9:00:12 AM lucifer6642
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* Music/StephenLynch does an AudienceParticipationSong, Superheroes, where the many of the suggested powers would fit this trope. Such as Valtrex Boy[[note]]"Isn't that the herpes medicine?"[[/note]] and Bong Man[[note]]"Put down that TV or... Fuck it man, who's got the Funyuns"[[/note]]
26th Jun '17 12:51:12 PM lillolillo
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* ''Manga/CityHunter'' villain Eran Dayan was allergic to men, and would get hives whenever one came near him.



* The Legion of Substitute Heroes is composed of rejected applicants to ''[[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} The Legion of Super-Heroes]]'', who banded together in an effort to show their powers were not useless. Some members included Chlorophyll Kid, who has the power to make plants grow super fast (he also says he can communicate with plants; he can't, but that doesn't stop him from talking to them); Color Kid, who can change the color of objects; Infectious Lass, who spontaneously generates infectious diseases; and Stone Boy, who has power to turn into stone (at which point he becomes completely immobile. Eventually, he undergoes hypnotherapy in order to move in his stone form.) Surprisingly, several members managed to prove their point and "graduate" into the LSH proper. Considering some of the heroes the Legion ''did'' admit, like "Bouncing Boy" and "Matter-Eater Lad", you have to wonder just how ''bad'' your powers had to be for them to actually ''reject'' you.

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* The Legion of Substitute Heroes is composed of rejected applicants to ''[[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} The Legion of Super-Heroes]]'', ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'', who banded together in an effort to show their powers were not useless. Some members included Chlorophyll Kid, who has the power to make plants grow super fast (he also says he can communicate with plants; he can't, but that doesn't stop him from talking to them); Color Kid, who can change the color of objects; Infectious Lass, who spontaneously generates infectious diseases; and Stone Boy, who has power to turn into stone (at which point he becomes completely immobile. Eventually, he undergoes hypnotherapy in order to move in his stone form.) Surprisingly, several members managed to prove their point and "graduate" into the LSH proper. Considering some of the heroes the Legion ''did'' admit, like "Bouncing Boy" and "Matter-Eater Lad", you have to wonder just how ''bad'' your powers had to be for them to actually ''reject'' you.
25th Jun '17 12:57:45 PM MBG159
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** That said, it's hard to deny a number of Stands fall into this. Cheap Trick and Superfly are outright BlessedWithSuck, killing the user if they let someone see their back or leave a radio tower - they're dangerous in the story because they both have the potential to jump onto other people (and Cheap Trick does so by killing the user). Hey Ya does nothing but provide constant positive encouragement to its user... but [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower fortunately,]] said user is Pocoloco, who is BornLucky and can accomplish nearly anything if he puts his mind to it. [[BigBad DIO]] named the weakest Stand to be Survivor, an extremely short-ranged Stand that creates an electric impulse which travels through water and enters another person's brain, filling them with blind UnstoppableRage and enhancing their combat skills to an expert level. Use it on your friends and they try to kill you, use it on your enemies and they try to kill you harder, and you still have to get them wet. Even then, [[PowersAsPrograms Pucci]] was able to find a situation where it could be useful: [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman a high-security prison with a recently hosed floor, with Survivor's user inside a locked cell and the protagonist outside their cell with a number of prison guards.]]



** Some of the applicants were written so obviously planned-to-fail that it boggles the mind what made them think they'd be a contributing member in the first place. Double Header opened with the remark "Two heads are better than one!"... and immediately started bickering with himself. And Arms-Fall-Off-Lad could detach his arm and use as a club, apparently not considering that blunt instruments aren't that difficult to obtain.

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** Some of the applicants were written so obviously planned-to-fail that it boggles the mind what made them think they'd be a contributing member in the first place. Double Header opened with the remark "Two heads are better than one!"... and immediately started bickering with himself. And Arms-Fall-Off-Lad Arm-Fall-Off-Boy could detach his arm and use as a club, apparently not considering that blunt instruments aren't that difficult to obtain.
17th Jun '17 8:29:48 PM merotoker
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* Wheeler actually mocks Ma-Ti in the comic book adaptation of ''Captain Planet'' #3, directly invoking the trope, "What kind of useless power is heart?" Of course, we then learn Ma-Ti can read minds. He then makes fun of Ma-Ti pacifying guards and making them go to sleep. Ma-Ti can also talk to animals - basically having Franchise/{{Aquaman}}'s ability, but with all animals and not just sea life. His power has the ability to have the target look into their own ''soul'', which Wheeler also mocks. The main weakness of Ma-Ti's ability is that it has to be used ''indirectly'' against villains, unlike all of the others. When Ma-Ti tries using any of above JediMindTrick powers on the ArcVillains or the MonsterOfTheWeek, it never works because they're either too evil or too powerful. Also, if there's no living thing around for him to use his powers ''on'', then he's basically BroughtDownToNormal and can at best act as MissionControl for the team.

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* Wheeler actually mocks Ma-Ti in the comic book adaptation of ''Captain Planet'' #3, directly invoking the trope, "What kind of useless power is heart?" Of course, we then learn Ma-Ti can read minds. He then makes fun of Ma-Ti pacifying guards and making them go to sleep. Ma-Ti can also talk to animals - basically having Franchise/{{Aquaman}}'s ability, but with all animals and not just sea life. His power has the ability to have the target look into their own ''soul'', which Wheeler also mocks. The main weakness of Ma-Ti's ability is that it has to be used ''indirectly'' against villains, unlike all of the others. When Ma-Ti tries using any of above JediMindTrick powers on the ArcVillains {{Arc Villain}}s or the MonsterOfTheWeek, it never works because they're either too evil or too powerful. Also, if there's no living thing around for him to use his powers ''on'', then he's basically BroughtDownToNormal and can at best act as MissionControl for the team.



** She was, for reasons never made clear, on the superhero team in ''Comicbook/SecretWars'' (a godlike being, the Beyonder, made the most powerful heroes and villains fight against each other for his amusement). Feeling useless next to a literal god ([[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]), the master of magnetism (Magneto), and various others, she spent at least one issue sulking about how lame her powers were. She did manage to singlehandedly beat the Lizard in that issue by basically being too small for him to be able to hit her.

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** She was, for reasons never made clear, on the superhero team in ''Comicbook/SecretWars'' (a godlike being, the Beyonder, made the most powerful heroes and villains fight against each other for his amusement). Feeling useless next to a literal god ([[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]), the master of magnetism (Magneto), (ComicBook/{{Magneto}}), and various others, she spent at least one issue sulking about how lame her powers were. She did manage to singlehandedly beat the Lizard in that issue by basically being too small for him to be able to hit her.



* Usually, being able to shrink is an okay power so long as you have something to back it up; [[ComicBook/TheAvengers Ant-Man, the Wasp]], [[ComicBook/TheAtom the Atom]], and [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Shrinking Violet]] have all had moderately successful careers. However, Doll Man was a guy who had the shrinking ability and nothing else. Often, adventures involving him were the type where his specific skills were required. While he was a moderate hit for Quality Comics in [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the Golden Age]] (enough to earn himself a love interest sidekick, Doll Girl) interest in him waned quickly. (DC Comics has tried to revive him a few times by upgrading his powers, but interest has yet to be rekindled.)
* The Man O Metal was the brainchild of H. G. Peters, co-creator of ComicBook/WonderWoman, and his powers, while not lame, were kind of limited. Originally a blue-collar worker in a steel mill, an accident where molten steel was dumped on him somehow gave him the ability to turn his skin to blazing-hot metal. The problem? It doesn’t last long, and he needs to contact open flame to use it. One would think this guy would carry a cigarette lighter with him, but for most of his heroic career (which wasn’t long, as Peters had little time to expand it once Wonder Woman became a smash hit) he relied on accidental sparks from radiators, ovens, backfiring cars, and cigars, among other things.

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* Usually, being able to shrink is an okay power so long as you have something to back it up; [[ComicBook/TheAvengers Ant-Man, the Wasp]], [[ComicBook/TheAtom the Atom]], and [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Shrinking Violet]] have all had moderately successful careers. However, Doll Man was a guy who had the shrinking ability and nothing else. Often, adventures involving him were the type where his specific skills were required. While he was a moderate hit for Quality Comics in [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the in {{UsefulNotes/the Golden Age]] Age|OfComicBooks}} (enough to earn himself a love interest sidekick, Doll Girl) interest in him waned quickly. (DC Comics has tried to revive him a few times by upgrading his powers, but interest has yet to be rekindled.)
* The Man O Metal was the brainchild of H. G. Peters, co-creator of ComicBook/WonderWoman, Franchise/WonderWoman, and his powers, while not lame, were kind of limited. Originally a blue-collar worker in a steel mill, an accident where molten steel was dumped on him somehow gave him the ability to turn his skin to blazing-hot metal. The problem? It doesn’t last long, and he needs to contact open flame to use it. One would think this guy would carry a cigarette lighter with him, but for most of his heroic career (which wasn’t long, as Peters had little time to expand it once Wonder Woman became a smash hit) he relied on accidental sparks from radiators, ovens, backfiring cars, and cigars, among other things.



* The ''Podcast/PlumbingTheDeathStar'' episode "How Effective is the Film/SuicideSquad?" tests the Squad's mission statement, defeat villains with superpowers, by grading how each individual member would fare against ComicBook/{{Superman}}. Of the nine members, seven get less than a one out of ten, because their incredible powers of [[ImprobableAimingSkills shooting]], boomerangs enthusiasm, sword enthusiasm, acrobatics, climbing, [[{{Muggle}} humanity]], and ordinary cannibalism don't really mean much against an [[LightningBruiser unkillable flying bullet]] that can vaporize you with a glance if you're taking him alone. But with the Squad together:

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* The ''Podcast/PlumbingTheDeathStar'' episode "How Effective is the Film/SuicideSquad?" tests the Squad's mission statement, defeat villains with superpowers, by grading how each individual member would fare against ComicBook/{{Superman}}. Franchise/{{Superman}}. Of the nine members, seven get less than a one out of ten, because their incredible powers of [[ImprobableAimingSkills shooting]], boomerangs enthusiasm, sword enthusiasm, acrobatics, climbing, [[{{Muggle}} [[{{Muggles}} humanity]], and ordinary cannibalism don't really mean much against an [[LightningBruiser unkillable flying bullet]] that can vaporize you with a glance if you're taking him alone. But with the Squad together:



* ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'': students with weak or highly limited powersets are almost as BlessedWithSuck as those with [[BodyHorror severe GSD]], both at [[AcademyOfAdventure school]] due to the massive power differentials and the large number of bullies, and outside, because of FantasticRacism against {{Mutant}}s. While the school does its level best to find MundaneUtility for even the most minor powers, its priority of helping the students survive means that a lot of the time all they can do is teach them to keep their heads down.

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* ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse'': students with weak or highly limited powersets are almost as BlessedWithSuck as those with [[BodyHorror severe GSD]], both at [[AcademyOfAdventure school]] due to the massive power differentials and the large number of bullies, and outside, because of FantasticRacism against {{Mutant}}s.{{Mutants}}. While the school does its level best to find MundaneUtility for even the most minor powers, its priority of helping the students survive means that a lot of the time all they can do is teach them to keep their heads down.
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