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2nd Aug '16 4:24:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* Of all people, Jesus of Nazareth is presented as a Reluctant-Messiah-type in ''TheLastTemptationOfChrist''.

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* Of all people, Jesus of Nazareth is presented as a Reluctant-Messiah-type in ''TheLastTemptationOfChrist''.''Film/TheLastTemptationOfChrist''.



* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] of ''{{Mistborn}}'' combines elements of the Despot and the Prince [[spoiler: though he probably sees himself as more of a Reluctant Messiah- and despite being the object of the state religion he's not a real god, just a human with immortality and godlike magical powers]].

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* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] of ''{{Mistborn}}'' ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' combines elements of the Despot and the Prince [[spoiler: though he probably sees himself as more of a Reluctant Messiah- and despite being the object of the state religion he's not a real god, just a human with immortality and godlike magical powers]].



* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode, and the short story on which it's based, "Literature/ItsAGoodLife," deal with what would happen if a bratty child were given RealityWarper powers akin to God.

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* ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'' episode, and the short story on which it's based, "Literature/ItsAGoodLife," deal with what would happen if a bratty child were given RealityWarper powers akin to God.
2nd Jul '16 12:22:58 PM nombretomado
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* [[{{Bionicle}} Mata Nui]], who was worshiped as (and had the powers of) a god, then became a "normal" with some abnormal powers, [[ItsALongStory then temporarily returned to a god status]], after he's done [[spoiler: re-uniting the shattered parts of Spherus Magna and fulfilling his destiny, left his friends and people in a Self-Denouncer fashion, claiming he would never want to fail them again, so they'd best stop worshiping him and form a new society on their own. His ignorance is what caused a lot of suffering for them in the first place, you see, but still, he kept them alive... now, he doesn't ignore them any longer, but above that, he's barely of any help in his SoulJar of a mask.]]

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* [[{{Bionicle}} [[Toys/{{Bionicle}} Mata Nui]], who was worshiped as (and had the powers of) a god, then became a "normal" with some abnormal powers, [[ItsALongStory then temporarily returned to a god status]], after he's done [[spoiler: re-uniting the shattered parts of Spherus Magna and fulfilling his destiny, left his friends and people in a Self-Denouncer fashion, claiming he would never want to fail them again, so they'd best stop worshiping him and form a new society on their own. His ignorance is what caused a lot of suffering for them in the first place, you see, but still, he kept them alive... now, he doesn't ignore them any longer, but above that, he's barely of any help in his SoulJar of a mask.]]
6th Feb '16 5:08:57 PM Vios
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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'', [[spoiler: the PC is The Oblivious for much of the game.]] In ''Baldurs Gate 2'', the ending determines whether he will be The Despot, The Savior with shades of Rebel, or Rebel and leave the mantle on the floor.

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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'', [[spoiler: the PC is The Oblivious for much of the game.]] In ''Baldurs Gate 2'', ''VideoGame/BaldursGateIIThroneOfBhaal'', the ending determines whether he will be The Despot, The Savior with shades of Rebel, or Rebel and leave the mantle on the floor.
12th Jan '16 11:16:32 AM Gorthaff
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Not related to {{One Of Us}}, unless you have a very high opinion of yourself.

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Not related to {{One Of Us}}, unless you have a very high opinion of yourself.
yourself. Author avatars are by definition this trope.
2nd Nov '15 6:58:46 PM Omnicron13
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* The GodEmperor of ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' is a mix of The Self-Denouncer and The Shepherd. He considers himself to be a human and thinks humanity should [[HumansAreSpecial worship themselves]] rather than any deities. While at first he just guided humanity instead of making his presence known, when the [[CrapsackWorld Age of Strife]] happened he decided to make his presence known since if he didn't there wouldn't have been a humanity left to guide.

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* The GodEmperor of ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' is a mix of The Self-Denouncer Self-Denouncer, The Prince, and The Shepherd. He considers himself to be a human and thinks humanity should [[HumansAreSpecial worship themselves]] rather than any deities. While at first he just guided humanity instead of making his presence known, when the [[CrapsackWorld Age of Strife]] happened he decided to make his presence known since if he didn't there wouldn't have been a humanity left to guide.
18th Oct '15 10:11:06 AM nombretomado
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* {{Superman}}, pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}}, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.

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* {{Superman}}, pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}}, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis ComicBook/PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.
15th Sep '15 8:30:47 PM nombretomado
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* {{Superman}}, PreCrisis, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.

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* {{Superman}}, PreCrisis, pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}}, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.
22nd Jun '15 6:54:44 AM Prfnoff
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* Of all people, Jesus of Nazareth is presented as a Reluctant-Messiah-type in ''TheLastTemptationOfChrist''.
** Some of the gospels had him showing hints of this also, notably in the garden of Gethsemane. He asks God if they could avoid the whole crucifixion thing, but then says that since it's the big guy's will, that's okay too.
* {{Superman}}, PreCrisis, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.

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* Of all people, Jesus of Nazareth is presented as a Reluctant-Messiah-type in ''TheLastTemptationOfChrist''.
** Some of the gospels had him showing hints of this also, notably in the garden of Gethsemane. He asks God if they could avoid the whole crucifixion thing, but then says that since it's the big guy's will, that's okay too.
* {{Superman}}, PreCrisis, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah
[[AC:Anime and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.Manga]]



* The plot of ''Film/BruceAlmighty''. Starts as The Despot, [[spoiler: tries to be The Savior but isn't up to the task.]]
* ''TheGodsOfArrKelaan'' has examples of all these types. [[HeroicNeutral Ronson]] is the Self-Denouncer, [[TheMedic Aldman]] is the Savior, Salsmen is the Despot, [[TheParagon Mike]] is the shepherd and so on.



* One of the central themes of ''{{Exalted}}'' is to explore this question. Given that there are several thousand of them, the titular Exalted tend to run the gamut of archetypes presented here, with the possible exception of Obliviousness--Exaltation is hard to miss.
* In ''BaldursGate'', [[spoiler: the PC is The Oblivious for much of the game.]] In ''Baldurs Gate 2'', the ending determines whether he will be The Despot, The Savior with shades of Rebel, or Rebel and leave the mantle on the floor.
* Arguably, [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Pain]] is an example. He is basically human but possesses God level powers (or something like that) and tries to use them. The category... he probably thinks of himself along the lines of a savior but is more a prince type. But you can probably argue about that.
* ''Anime/{{Kamichu}}'' Yurie fits the bill for Relcutant Messiah.
* Joan Osborne's song "One Of Us", the TropeNamer, wonders what type of OneOfUs God is, tending somewhat to the "Reluctant" type.
* [[{{Bionicle}} Mata Nui]], who was worshiped as (and had the powers of) a god, then became a "normal" with some abnormal powers, [[ItsALongStory then temporarily returned to a god status]], after he's done [[spoiler: re-uniting the shattered parts of Spherus Magna and fulfilling his destiny, left his friends and people in a Self-Denouncer fashion, claiming he would never want to fail them again, so they'd best stop worshiping him and form a new society on their own. His ignorance is what caused a lot of suffering for them in the first place, you see, but still, he kept them alive... now, he doesn't ignore them any longer, but above that, he's barely of any help in his SoulJar of a mask.]]
* [[Comicbook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]] is essentially a god, and is explicitly called that by one character. Because he sees everything at its molecular level, and all time exists at the same time for him, though, he's become The Ubermensch. In flashbacks (such as the Vietnam War), he's more of an ExtremeDoormat who doesn't fit any of the archetypes, though he tries to be The Savior.
* In ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', [[spoiler: Joshua]] shows elements of The Prince and The Shepherd, trying to [[spoiler: erase all of Shibuya, shooting Neku twice, and using him in a pawn in his game.]] On the other hand, [[spoiler: -he-]] also keeps the Game running as a means of judging the dead and refining their Imaginations, and Neku, Shiki and maybe Beat seem to have grown from their experiences in it. [[spoiler: Hanekoma]], meanwhile, seems to be a straight example of The Shepherd.
* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': [[spoiler: The Main Character in the King of Saints ending is the Prince, with some Shepherd-like characteristics. In the King of Demons ending, he acts like he's The Ubermensch, but this is actually a smokescreen: he's actually The Savior in a somewhat twisted way. In the other endings he gives up or fails to attain the power of Bel, though an argument could be made for him acting as The Shepherd and The Self-Denouncer in Atsuro's route, as he gives power to humanity instead of seizing it for himself. Gin's route is pure Rebel, while Yuzu's is an unusual Rebellion in that the MC [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere simply drops the problem and runs away]] rather than fighting to save the world.]]

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* One of the central themes of ''{{Exalted}}'' is to explore this question. Given that there are several thousand of them, the titular Exalted tend to run the gamut of archetypes presented here, with the possible exception of Obliviousness--Exaltation is hard to miss.
* In ''BaldursGate'', [[spoiler: the PC is The Oblivious for much of the game.]] In ''Baldurs Gate 2'', the ending determines whether he will be The Despot, The Savior with shades of Rebel, or Rebel and leave the mantle on the floor.
* Arguably, [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Pain]] is an example. He
''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': Pain is basically human but possesses God level powers (or something like that) and tries to use them. The category... he probably thinks of himself along the lines of a savior but is more a prince type. But you can probably argue about that.
* ''Anime/{{Kamichu}}'' Yurie fits the bill for Relcutant Messiah.
* Joan Osborne's song "One Of Us", the TropeNamer, wonders what type of OneOfUs God is, tending somewhat to the "Reluctant" type.
* [[{{Bionicle}} Mata Nui]], who was worshiped as (and had the powers of) a god, then became a "normal" with some abnormal powers, [[ItsALongStory then temporarily returned to a god status]], after he's done [[spoiler: re-uniting the shattered parts of Spherus Magna and fulfilling his destiny, left his friends and people in a Self-Denouncer fashion, claiming he would never want to fail them again, so they'd best stop worshiping him and form a new society on their own. His ignorance is what caused a lot of suffering for them in the first place, you see, but still, he kept them alive... now, he doesn't ignore them any longer, but above that, he's barely of any help in his SoulJar of a mask.]]
* [[Comicbook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]] is essentially a god, and is explicitly called that by one character. Because he sees everything at its molecular level, and all time exists at the same time for him, though, he's become The Ubermensch. In flashbacks (such as the Vietnam War), he's more of an ExtremeDoormat who doesn't fit any of the archetypes, though he tries to be The Savior.
* In ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', [[spoiler: Joshua]] shows elements of The Prince and The Shepherd, trying to [[spoiler: erase all of Shibuya, shooting Neku twice, and using him in a pawn in his game.]] On the other hand, [[spoiler: -he-]] also keeps the Game running as a means of judging the dead and refining their Imaginations, and Neku, Shiki and maybe Beat seem to have grown from their experiences in it. [[spoiler: Hanekoma]], meanwhile, seems to be a straight example of The Shepherd.
* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': [[spoiler: The Main Character in the King of Saints ending is the Prince, with some Shepherd-like characteristics. In the King of Demons ending, he acts like he's The Ubermensch, but this is actually a smokescreen: he's actually The Savior in a somewhat twisted way. In the other endings he gives up or fails to attain the power of Bel, though an argument could be made for him acting as The Shepherd and The Self-Denouncer in Atsuro's route, as he gives power to humanity instead of seizing it for himself. Gin's route is pure Rebel, while Yuzu's is an unusual Rebellion in that the MC [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere simply drops the problem and runs away]] rather than fighting to save the world.]]
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* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] of ''{{Mistborn}}'' combines elements of the Despot and the Prince [[spoiler: though he probably sees himself as more of a Reluctant Messiah- and despite being the object of the state religion he's not a real god, just a human with immortality and godlike magical powers]].
* ''TheTwilightZone'' episode, and the short story on which it's based, ''ItsAGoodLife'', deal with what would happen if a bratty child were given RealityWarper powers akin to God.

to:

* {{Superman}}, PreCrisis, is a clear-cut example of a Savior-type. PostCrisis he is a combination of a Reluctant Messiah and Self-Denouncer type - he hates being called a god, but wishes he were the god people make him out to be.
* ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'': Doctor Manhattan is essentially a god, and is explicitly called that by one character. Because he sees everything at its molecular level, and all time exists at the same time for him, though, he's become The Ubermensch. In flashbacks (such as the Vietnam War), he's more of an ExtremeDoormat who doesn't fit any of the archetypes, though he tries to be The Savior.

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* Of all people, Jesus of Nazareth is presented as a Reluctant-Messiah-type in ''TheLastTemptationOfChrist''.
** Some of the gospels had him showing hints of this also, notably in the garden of Gethsemane. He asks God if they could avoid the whole crucifixion thing, but then says that since it's the big guy's will, that's okay too.
* The plot of ''Film/BruceAlmighty''. Starts as The Despot, [[spoiler: tries to be The Savior but isn't up to the task.]]

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* [[GodEmperor The Lord Ruler]] of ''{{Mistborn}}'' combines elements of the Despot and the Prince [[spoiler: though he probably sees himself as more of a Reluctant Messiah- and despite being the object of the state religion he's not a real god, just a human with immortality and godlike magical powers]].
powers]].

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* ''TheTwilightZone'' ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode, and the short story on which it's based, ''ItsAGoodLife'', "Literature/ItsAGoodLife," deal with what would happen if a bratty child were given RealityWarper powers akin to God.God.

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* Joan Osborne's song "One Of Us", the TropeNamer, wonders what type of OneOfUs God is, tending somewhat to the "Reluctant" type.

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* One of the central themes of ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is to explore this question. Given that there are several thousand of them, the titular Exalted tend to run the gamut of archetypes presented here, with the possible exception of Obliviousness--Exaltation is hard to miss.



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* [[{{Bionicle}} Mata Nui]], who was worshiped as (and had the powers of) a god, then became a "normal" with some abnormal powers, [[ItsALongStory then temporarily returned to a god status]], after he's done [[spoiler: re-uniting the shattered parts of Spherus Magna and fulfilling his destiny, left his friends and people in a Self-Denouncer fashion, claiming he would never want to fail them again, so they'd best stop worshiping him and form a new society on their own. His ignorance is what caused a lot of suffering for them in the first place, you see, but still, he kept them alive... now, he doesn't ignore them any longer, but above that, he's barely of any help in his SoulJar of a mask.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'', [[spoiler: the PC is The Oblivious for much of the game.]] In ''Baldurs Gate 2'', the ending determines whether he will be The Despot, The Savior with shades of Rebel, or Rebel and leave the mantle on the floor.
* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': [[spoiler: The Main Character in the King of Saints ending is the Prince, with some Shepherd-like characteristics. In the King of Demons ending, he acts like he's The Ubermensch, but this is actually a smokescreen: he's actually The Savior in a somewhat twisted way. In the other endings he gives up or fails to attain the power of Bel, though an argument could be made for him acting as The Shepherd and The Self-Denouncer in Atsuro's route, as he gives power to humanity instead of seizing it for himself. Gin's route is pure Rebel, while Yuzu's is an unusual Rebellion in that the MC [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere simply drops the problem and runs away]] rather than fighting to save the world.]]
* In ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', [[spoiler: Joshua]] shows elements of The Prince and The Shepherd, trying to [[spoiler: erase all of Shibuya, shooting Neku twice, and using him in a pawn in his game.]] On the other hand, [[spoiler: -he-]] also keeps the Game running as a means of judging the dead and refining their Imaginations, and Neku, Shiki and maybe Beat seem to have grown from their experiences in it. [[spoiler: Hanekoma]], meanwhile, seems to be a straight example of The Shepherd.

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* ''Webcomic/TheGodsOfArrKelaan'' has examples of all these types. [[HeroicNeutral Ronson]] is the Self-Denouncer, [[TheMedic Aldman]] is the Savior, Salsmen is the Despot, [[TheParagon Mike]] is the shepherd and so on.
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19th Jun '15 5:45:53 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Kamichu}}'' Yurie fits the bill for Relcutant Messiah.

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* ''{{Kamichu}}'' ''Anime/{{Kamichu}}'' Yurie fits the bill for Relcutant Messiah.
25th Mar '15 1:24:30 PM MarqFJA
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* The GodEmperor of ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' is a mix of The Self-Denouncer and The Shepard. He considers himself to be a human and thinks humanity should [[HumansAreSpecial worship themselves]] rather than any deities. While at first he just guided humanity instead of making his presence known, when the [[CrapsackWorld Age of Strife]] happened he decided to make his presence known since if he didn't there wouldn't have been a humanity left to guide.

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* The GodEmperor of ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' is a mix of The Self-Denouncer and The Shepard.Shepherd. He considers himself to be a human and thinks humanity should [[HumansAreSpecial worship themselves]] rather than any deities. While at first he just guided humanity instead of making his presence known, when the [[CrapsackWorld Age of Strife]] happened he decided to make his presence known since if he didn't there wouldn't have been a humanity left to guide.
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