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18th May '17 7:56:49 AM thrymskvida
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** Of course he also nearly demands it in the forward of ''Literature/TheDefense'' and understanding most of ''Literature/PaleFire'' is impossible without it.

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** Of course he also nearly demands it in the forward foreword of ''Literature/TheDefense'' and understanding most of ''Literature/PaleFire'' is impossible without it.
24th Apr '17 1:00:56 PM Golondrina
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* There is a controversial book, "''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Read_Donald_Duck Para leer al Pato Donald]]''" ("''How to read Donald Duck''"), written by Ariel Dorfman (a Chilean born in Argentina) and Armand Mattelart (a Belgian) and first published in Chile in 1971 (University of Valparaíso press). It is an earlier example of an ideological critique of what people up until then tended to view as nothing but harmless, indeed wholesome entertainment for children from a distinctly Marxist and anti-imperialist point of view. It thus presents Disney comics, specifically those distributed and in some cases produced for the Latin American market, as not just reflecting the dominant ideology of the United States (i. e. that of [[TheMan the ruling class]]), but also disseminating it to indoctrinate young readers. This of course aroused the ire of Creator/CarlBarks' fans and also was regarded as nothing but communist propaganda by those who see American exceptionalism and the advocacy of free-market capitalism as "unpolitical" or at any rate a good thing. Despite its various failings -- for example, the authors were unaware that the creators working on the Disney comics were not subjected to the tight and strict supervision imposed on the people working in the animation studios -- the book remains one of the more influential works of its kind.[[note]] In 2001 the book went into its 36th Spanish-language edition and in 1991 into its 4th English-language edition.[[/note]]



* Film/AttackOfThe50FootWoman: a commentary on the conformity of 1950's gender roles and how society reacts to their defiance, or a silly B-Movie?

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* Film/AttackOfThe50FootWoman: ''Film/AttackOfThe50FootWoman'': a commentary on the conformity of 1950's gender roles and how society reacts to their defiance, or a silly B-Movie?



* Film/FiftyShadesOfGrey of all things. The original book was lambasted endlessly for its superficial and slanted portrayal of BDSM relationships. The movie on the other hand, partially due to the lack of the cringe-worthy inner monologues and more focus on the character-interactions, accidentally acknowledges that the problem is not the BDSM itself, but the trust-issues in the relationship. Anastasia is being naive and inexperienced, getting all her knowledge of the topic from cursory internet searches that immediately focus on the more hardcore aspects of the fetish, thus poisoning her expectations. Grey, on the other hand, is obsessed with control and suffers from trust-issues due to a FreudianExcuse and needlessly rushes things with the contract even though they both enjoy the activity without it. Both of these things are portrayed as bad things that jeopardize their relationship, while BDSM was something they both enjoyed until the very end and isn't villified in the movie (in the last scene, it turns sour because they purposefully step over Anastasia's limits). In other words, [[AccidentalAesop it is a cautionary tale about doing relationships in general wrong.]]

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* Film/FiftyShadesOfGrey ''Film/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' of all things. The original book was lambasted endlessly for its superficial and slanted portrayal of BDSM relationships. The movie on the other hand, partially due to the lack of the cringe-worthy inner monologues and more focus on the character-interactions, accidentally acknowledges that the problem is not the BDSM itself, but the trust-issues in the relationship. Anastasia is being naive and inexperienced, getting all her knowledge of the topic from cursory internet searches that immediately focus on the more hardcore aspects of the fetish, thus poisoning her expectations. Grey, on the other hand, is obsessed with control and suffers from trust-issues due to a FreudianExcuse and needlessly rushes things with the contract even though they both enjoy the activity without it. Both of these things are portrayed as bad things that jeopardize their relationship, while BDSM was something they both enjoyed until the very end and isn't villified in the movie (in the last scene, it turns sour because they purposefully step over Anastasia's limits). In other words, [[AccidentalAesop it is a cautionary tale about doing relationships in general wrong.]]



* The Bantam Classic printing of Literature/GreatExpectations has a lengthy introduction by John Irving that ''does'' spoil the whole plot before page one of chapter one, ''does'' compare the book to various other works of Dickens, and ''does'' go into way too much scholarly analysis, but at least doesn't go into much EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory.

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* The Bantam Classic printing of Literature/GreatExpectations ''Literature/GreatExpectations'' has a lengthy introduction by John Irving that ''does'' spoil the whole plot before page one of chapter one, ''does'' compare the book to various other works of Dickens, and ''does'' go into way too much scholarly analysis, but at least doesn't go into much EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory.



** Among the editorial essays on MuggleNet, there's an essay on the relationship between Harry and Voldemort, and how the language in key moments implies symbolic rape.[[http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/potterrape.shtml 1]]

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** Among the editorial essays on MuggleNet, [[http://www.mugglenet.com/ MuggleNet]], there's an essay on the relationship between Harry and Voldemort, and how the language in key moments implies symbolic rape.[[http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/potterrape.shtml 1]]
16th Apr '17 5:45:03 PM nombretomado
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* Anything ''{{Starslip}}'''s Vanderbeam analyzes becomes saddled with more symbolism than it deserves. Taken to extremes:

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* Anything ''{{Starslip}}'''s ''Webcomic/{{Starslip}}'''s Vanderbeam analyzes becomes saddled with more symbolism than it deserves. Taken to extremes:
12th Apr '17 3:43:33 PM Merseyuser1
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* KatyPerry is the subject of this trope in her April 2017 single "Chained To The Rhythm" (featuring special guest star SkipMarley). Analysis of the video and its lyrics [[UpToEleven was done in detail online]], with a look at [[AnAesop the aesops the video provides]], as well as ShoutOut to [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment 2017's political climate]]. [[http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music-theatre/2017/02/katy-perry-s-new-song-not-so-much-chained-rhythm-chained-black-mirror The New Statesman goes into quite some detail on this]].
* JustinBieber also had this happen to him, but not for the lyrics of a song, but the video's meaning. His single [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRh_vgS2dFE Sorry]] featuring The ReQuest Dance Crew (from New Zealand), released in 2015 as part of "The Movement" project during his CareerResurrection was, and still is, taken as seriously as the KatyPerry example above. This has some overlap with EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory video. Although the video was ''intended'' to provide a lot of MsFanservice, it quickly became seen as didactic and EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory mixed with TrueArtIsAngsty. As of April 2017, the video still provides [[BrokenBase a lot of controversy in the music industry]], and has ended up becoming ProductPlacement for The ReQuest Dance Crew and a StarMakingRole for Paris Goebbel ([[SadlyMythtaken who is not related to Goebbels, contrary to some people's belief]]).
2nd Apr '17 8:51:11 AM Mineboot45
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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S1SVkysIRw This]] episode of ''WebOriginal/GameTheory'' proposes the then-obscure idea that Link [[DeadAllAlong died in the opening of the game]] and all of Termina is merely his purgatory until he accepts his death and moves on to the afterlife proper.

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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S1SVkysIRw This]] episode of ''WebOriginal/GameTheory'' ''WebVideo/GameTheory'' proposes the then-obscure idea that Link [[DeadAllAlong died in the opening of the game]] and all of Termina is merely his purgatory until he accepts his death and moves on to the afterlife proper.
2nd Apr '17 8:50:27 AM Mineboot45
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*** And then [[http://www.zeldainformer.com/articles/debunked-why-the-link-is-dead-theory-is-wrong this article]] completely refutes it with the multiple [[WordOfGod]] statements that Termina is a parallel world, and the fact that Link couldn't have died while falling into the tree.

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*** And then [[http://www.zeldainformer.com/articles/debunked-why-the-link-is-dead-theory-is-wrong this article]] completely refutes it with the multiple [[WordOfGod]] WordOfGod statements that Termina is a parallel world, and the fact that Link couldn't have died while falling into the tree.
10th Mar '17 9:21:53 AM Madrugada
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* Everyone has a high school English teacher who thinks every word of every book is ''dripping'' with meaning. The best is when the story actually does have an [[{{Anvilicious}} obvious moral]], but the teacher is so busy hunting for [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation some other theme]] in insignificant bits of imagery that he/she misses the point. Like, deciding that the main theme of ''Literature/TheStranger'' is something about nature.
23rd Feb '17 11:26:59 AM FigmentJedi
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* Parodied in ''WebVideo/LasagnaCat'' in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh9oLs67Cw 07/27/1978]], an hour long analysis of a single strip of Garfield stealing Jon's pipe.
15th Jan '17 8:27:24 AM Morgenthaler
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* In his Top 10 80's Movies video, {{Benzaie}} seems to take ''WesternAnimation/HeavyMetal'' just a little too seriously, going as far to compare it to the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s, but on a smaller scale. Well, more power to you, but the people who actually made the film take it considerably less seriously in the "Making of Heavy Metal" documentary, describing it more appropriately as the last gasp of the counterculture before the wave of 1980's conservatism (apparently, they didn't watch a lot of [[HairMetal MTV during the '80s]]). And his views on the Conan the Barbarian film were taking it too seriously also. Interesting that he praised that film's audio commentary, which has been ridiculed online and even by Creator/EdgarWright on one of the audio commentaries to ''Film/ScottPilgrim''.

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* In his Top 10 80's Movies video, {{Benzaie}} WebVideo/{{Benzaie}} seems to take ''WesternAnimation/HeavyMetal'' just a little too seriously, going as far to compare it to the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s, but on a smaller scale. Well, more power to you, but the people who actually made the film take it considerably less seriously in the "Making of Heavy Metal" documentary, describing it more appropriately as the last gasp of the counterculture before the wave of 1980's conservatism (apparently, they didn't watch a lot of [[HairMetal MTV during the '80s]]). And his views on the Conan the Barbarian film were taking it too seriously also. Interesting that he praised that film's audio commentary, which has been ridiculed online and even by Creator/EdgarWright on one of the audio commentaries to ''Film/ScottPilgrim''.



* In the CriterionCollection DVD of Fritz Lang's classic ''Film/{{M}}'', the booklet included with the DVD opens with an essay by film critic Stanley Kauffman which not only spoils the whole plot of the film, makes several pointless comparisons to totally unconnected works (including, of all things, ''Theatre/OedipusRex''--you know, because there's a blind guy, and he knows something other characters don't know), and discusses ''ad nauseum'' the sociological implications of the film--all for people who may not have even popped the DVD into their player yet--but also manages to do all this in ''two pages''.

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* In the CriterionCollection Creator/CriterionCollection DVD of Fritz Lang's classic ''Film/{{M}}'', the booklet included with the DVD opens with an essay by film critic Stanley Kauffman which not only spoils the whole plot of the film, makes several pointless comparisons to totally unconnected works (including, of all things, ''Theatre/OedipusRex''--you know, because there's a blind guy, and he knows something other characters don't know), and discusses ''ad nauseum'' the sociological implications of the film--all for people who may not have even popped the DVD into their player yet--but also manages to do all this in ''two pages''.
8th Jan '17 2:17:29 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Among the editorial essays on MuggleNet, there's an essay on the relationship between Harry and Voldemort, and how the language in key moments implies symbolic rape.[[http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/potterrape.shtml 1]] The amount of FreudWasRight and UnfortunateImplications is staggering....

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** Among the editorial essays on MuggleNet, there's an essay on the relationship between Harry and Voldemort, and how the language in key moments implies symbolic rape.[[http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/potterrape.shtml 1]] The amount of FreudWasRight and UnfortunateImplications is staggering....
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