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2nd Feb '17 6:00:23 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* In "The Second Renaissance: Part I" segment of ''Anime/TheAnimatrix'' it shown that in mid-21st century humans used (fully sapient, mind you) robots to perform manual labor. It's not just butlers and maids either, vast armies of robots are used as slave labor to haul vast building materials as a robot foreman beats on a drum to keep the workers in time. The Machines in 01 have production lines to build various items for both internal use and export. The main factor in this story is that it comes from the Zion archives and told by The Instructor, a program who interprets the archive's knowledge, so much of the knowledge of the past is to be taken with a grain of salt.
29th Jan '17 12:59:06 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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As well, beware of TechnologyLevels; just because a civilization can travel in space [[IfJesusThenAliens doesn't mean]] they actually ''have'' servitor robots. But the series that have already shown automation yet refuse to use it in the obvious places don't have any excuse. This is perhaps the ultimate extension of SchizoTech. Compare with IWantMyJetPack, and compare ''and'' contrast JobStealingRobot.[[note]][[Aversions of this trope]] may fit better there as well.[[/note]]

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As well, beware of TechnologyLevels; just because a civilization can travel in space [[IfJesusThenAliens doesn't mean]] they actually ''have'' servitor robots. But the series that have already shown automation yet refuse to use it in the obvious places don't have any excuse. This is perhaps the ultimate extension of SchizoTech. Compare with IWantMyJetPack, and compare ''and'' contrast JobStealingRobot.[[note]][[Aversions [[note]]Aversions of this trope]] trope may fit better there as well.[[/note]]
26th Dec '16 5:59:51 PM PaulA
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* In ''ComicStrip/FlashGordon'', slavery is common in the less-pleasant nations of Mongo. In the [[WesternAnimation/FlashGordon 1970s Filmation cartoon series]], it seemed like Flash got captured, enslaved, and then led a slave revolt about once a month.

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* In ''ComicStrip/FlashGordon'', slavery is common in the less-pleasant nations of Mongo. In the [[WesternAnimation/FlashGordon [[WesternAnimation/FlashGordon1979 1970s Filmation cartoon series]], it seemed like Flash got captured, enslaved, and then led a slave revolt about once a month.
24th Nov '16 8:16:03 AM Saber15
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* In the sequel, ''Videogame/EliteDangerous'', the democratic/corporate Federation is heavily automated, while the patronage/oligarchy Empire makes heavy use of 'Imperial slaves' for manual labor. Imperial slavery is essentially a form of IndenturedServitude where people under debt sell themselves for a set period to a buyer, who manages their expenses, health, and gives them an agreed-upon workload; this is generally considered to be a spartan, but livable arrangement. However, at the borders of Imperial space the slaves may be traded to shady Commanders who fly off to Federal and Independent space to sell them on the totally unregulated black market, and there are several instances of the Empire invading systems and taking the citizens as Imperial Slaves.
14th Nov '16 2:48:14 PM Antigone3
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** {{Cosplay}} is a good example, most cosplayers will make their own costumes. Ditto Goth, [[ElegantGothicLolita Gothic Lolita]] and other "do it yourself" fashions promoting hard work and original looks. They will mock those whose hardest work is swiping the credit card.

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** {{Cosplay}} is a good example, most cosplayers will make their own costumes. Ditto Goth, [[ElegantGothicLolita Gothic Lolita]] and other "do it yourself" fashions promoting hard work and original looks. They will mock those whose hardest work is swiping the credit card. Some cosplay/costuming competitions are limited to those who did the work themselves (or, in the case of child fans, got Mom or Dad to do the work) and ban purchased costumes.
9th Nov '16 1:59:03 PM nombretomado
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* Played for laughs in JonathanCoulton's song ''Chiron Beta Prime''...

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* Played for laughs in JonathanCoulton's Music/JonathanCoulton's song ''Chiron Beta Prime''...
9th Nov '16 11:28:50 AM nombretomado
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* TheJetsons have robots and automated gizmos coming out their ears, but George Jetson still has to go into the office to push a button repeatedly. (Jane and the kids occasionally complain about housework or chores, also done by pressing a button.) Granted this is kinda PlayedForLaughs, but it does seem that if any job could be done by a robot this would be it. Since we're never shown any real details, it's possible that the ''timing'' of pushing the button requires human discretion.

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* TheJetsons ''WesternAnimation/TheJetsons'' have robots and automated gizmos coming out their ears, but George Jetson still has to go into the office to push a button repeatedly. (Jane and the kids occasionally complain about housework or chores, also done by pressing a button.) Granted this is kinda PlayedForLaughs, but it does seem that if any job could be done by a robot this would be it. Since we're never shown any real details, it's possible that the ''timing'' of pushing the button requires human discretion.



** Cooking is another. Cooking is a complex art and science that actually requires a lot of skill, and making an automat for every single recipe will be costly. TheFifties promised us a [[TheJetsons Jetsons' kitchen]] complete with FoodPills-- but many of the "labor-saving devices" never really caught on, except the blender and food processor. What's more, better understanding of nutrition and human physiognomy makes food pills impractical (some basic nutrients will always require a larger-than-pill mass, and human gastric stretch receptors, which help indicate fullness, wouldn't be triggered by itty-bitty pills).

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** Cooking is another. Cooking is a complex art and science that actually requires a lot of skill, and making an automat for every single recipe will be costly. TheFifties promised us a [[TheJetsons [[WesternAnimation/TheJetsons Jetsons' kitchen]] complete with FoodPills-- but many of the "labor-saving devices" never really caught on, except the blender and food processor. What's more, better understanding of nutrition and human physiognomy makes food pills impractical (some basic nutrients will always require a larger-than-pill mass, and human gastric stretch receptors, which help indicate fullness, wouldn't be triggered by itty-bitty pills).
1st Nov '16 9:28:44 PM PaulA
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* In ''Nova'' by Creator/SamuelRDelany, everyone in the future has cyborg implants that allow them to interface with machinery, letting people control any machine, from vacuum cleaners to spaceships, and pseudo-physically perform labor through them--not quite manual labor, but not using robots. While it would be possible to automate everything, it was found that people have a psychological need to connect their actions to work rather than letting robots do everything for them.

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* In ''Nova'' ''Literature/{{Nova}}'' by Creator/SamuelRDelany, everyone in the future has cyborg implants that allow them to interface with machinery, letting people control any machine, from vacuum cleaners to spaceships, and pseudo-physically perform labor through them--not quite manual labor, but not using robots. While it would be possible to automate everything, it was found that people have a psychological need to connect their actions to work rather than letting robots do everything for them.
19th Oct '16 10:16:22 PM Fireblood
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** Jared Diamond, an anthropologist, argues in his book ''Guns, Germs and Steel'' that many factors contribute to why Europe developed industry ahead of other places, including ones like China that actually had more native inventions. First, there's the resources on hand as mentioned above-can't industrialize if you don't have the right metals easily available. Second, politics-if you have a number of separate states, an inventor has more options when attempting to sell his idea. China once had the best sea ships in the world, but the Emperor decided they were unneeded since they already had everything, and discontinued them. By contrast, European states were almost constantly fighting and competing over resources. Thus someone like Columbus could still get backing from Spain when he was rejected first by his native Genoa and then Portugal. Similarly, Da Vinci worked for the Duke of Milan, and then the French, who had ''conquered'' Milan. China had everything centrally controlled, and distrusted the potentially disruptive changes inventions could bring, so most languished.

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** Jared Diamond, an anthropologist, argues in his book ''Guns, Germs and Steel'' that many factors contribute to why Europe developed industry ahead of other places, including ones like China that actually had many more native inventions. First, there's the resources on hand as mentioned above-can't industrialize if you don't have the right metals easily available. Second, politics-if you have a number of separate states, an inventor has more options when attempting to sell his idea. China once had the best sea ships in the world, but the Emperor decided they were unneeded since they already had everything, and discontinued them. By contrast, European states were almost constantly fighting and competing over resources. Thus someone like Columbus could still get backing from Spain when he was rejected first by his native Genoa and then Portugal. Similarly, Da Vinci worked for the Duke of Milan, and then the French, who had ''conquered'' Milan. China had was a unified empire with everything centrally controlled, and their government distrusted the potentially disruptive changes inventions could bring, so most languished.
19th Oct '16 10:13:43 PM Fireblood
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* An interesting historical case: Ancient Greece. Towards the later parts of its history, this society seemed to be teetering on the brink of an industrial revolution, but never quite made the plunge, instead sticking with slavery and other traditional, labour-intensive methods of production. Ancient Greece had a great deal of scientific thinkers, the capacity to build complex mechanical devices, and even developed a simple steam engine. The steam engine especially, if developed further and perfected, could have been used to simplify a lot of labour-intensive jobs, as it was when the Industrial Revolution finally did roll around. But the Ancient Greeks saw it as nothing more than a curious toy.
** Those that did think the steam engine was great tended to not be taken seriously. One guy was pretty sure that Hero's Engine could be used to predict the weather. Given that the boiling point of water varies depending on air pressure, and that quite a bit of the weather is dependent on moving high/low pressure fronts, he was probably actually on to something. Ancient Greece also had several factors working against it that are considered a requirement for industrialization. First, their technology base was actually very low, to the point that they had little access to high grade iron for a good steel industry. Second, they had no real centralized polity to ram the reforms down their throats. Third, they would not have been able to afford it even if they did have a fully centralized authority. They actually saw the potential, but wrote it off as a case of AwesomeButImpractical. Even the Romans, who could have possibly done it to a limited degree, would not have been able to fully pull it off for the first and third reasons respectively. The nations of Europe in the late 18th century which kicked the industrial revolution off actually had more concentrated wealth ''individually'' than the entire Roman Empire at its' height.
** Consider also the medieval Chinese, who invented so many amazing feats of chemistry, engineering and metallurgy yet somehow were eclipsed by the western European nations and remained a bit of an industrial backwater for hundreds of years. Though much of this was cultural, as Confucianism taught rigorous adherence to the status quo. The Chinese were never able to separate philosophy from religion and they were never able to invent the scientific ''method''. They did have all the ingredients for the scientific and technological revolution, but they never made the final breakthrough. Once that was introduced from outside, however, China has rapidly risen to the spearhead of technology.

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* An interesting historical case: Ancient Greece. Towards the later parts of its history, this society seemed to be teetering on the brink of an industrial revolution, but never quite made the plunge, instead sticking with slavery and other traditional, labour-intensive labor-intensive methods of production. Ancient Greece had a great deal of scientific thinkers, the capacity to build complex mechanical devices, and even developed a simple steam engine. The steam engine especially, if developed further and perfected, could have been used to simplify a lot of labour-intensive labor-intensive jobs, as it was when the Industrial Revolution finally did roll around. But the Ancient Greeks saw it as nothing more than a curious toy.
** Those that did think the steam engine was great tended to not be taken seriously. One guy was pretty sure that Hero's Engine could be used to predict the weather. Given that the boiling point of water varies depending on air pressure, and that quite a bit of the weather is dependent on moving high/low pressure fronts, he was probably actually on to something. Ancient Greece also had several factors working against it that are considered a requirement for industrialization. First, their technology base was actually very low, to the point that they had little access to high grade iron for a good steel industry. Second, they had no real centralized polity to ram the reforms down their throats. Third, they would not have been able to afford it even if they did have a fully centralized authority. They actually saw the potential, but wrote it off as a case of AwesomeButImpractical. Even the Romans, who could have possibly done it to a limited degree, would not have been able to fully pull it off for the first and third reasons respectively. The nations of Europe in the late 18th century which kicked the industrial revolution off actually had more concentrated wealth ''individually'' than the entire Roman Empire at its' it's height.
** Consider also the medieval Chinese, who invented so many amazing feats of chemistry, engineering and metallurgy yet somehow were eclipsed by the western European nations and remained a bit of an industrial backwater for hundreds of years. Though much of this was cultural, as Confucianism taught rigorous adherence to the status quo. The Chinese were never able to separate philosophy from religion and they were never able to invent the scientific ''method''. They did have all the ingredients for the scientific and technological revolution, but they never made the final breakthrough. Once that was introduced from outside, however, China has rapidly risen to the spearhead of technology.
** Jared Diamond, an anthropologist, argues in his book ''Guns, Germs and Steel'' that many factors contribute to why Europe developed industry ahead of other places, including ones like China that actually had more native inventions. First, there's the resources on hand as mentioned above-can't industrialize if you don't have the right metals easily available. Second, politics-if you have a number of separate states, an inventor has more options when attempting to sell his idea. China once had the best sea ships in the world, but the Emperor decided they were unneeded since they already had everything, and discontinued them. By contrast, European states were almost constantly fighting and competing over resources. Thus someone like Columbus could still get backing from Spain when he was rejected first by his native Genoa and then Portugal. Similarly, Da Vinci worked for the Duke of Milan, and then the French, who had ''conquered'' Milan. China had everything centrally controlled, and distrusted the potentially disruptive changes inventions could bring, so most languished.



As time passed on, though, overall Chinese economic growth meant that fewer and fewer people are willing to tolerate harsh working conditions and meager pay, so the labour unrest became a problem for the company. Add to that the calls for product boycotting from the labour action groups and displeasure from the brands itselves, [[SlaveToPR who are conscious about their image]], and cue the news that Foxconn is investing astronomical sums into the automated assembly. Robots may be more expensive in the long run, but they don't make a fuss and don't [[TheDogBitesBack beat the managers half to death]].
* Sailing. No matter the size of the boat, anything from hauling the sails to changing the tack is done manually. That because yachts are usually cramped boats with little space for extra machinery, and because technology has a tendency to fail when least expected. Besides that, crewmembers are easily moveable ballast where extra weight is needed. Back when steam had only started to make inroads, ''huge'' crews that sailing ships had were their second main disadvantage after their reliance on the weather. Steamboat might've needed a place for coal and thus carry less cargo, but it could be manned by twenty sailors instead of more than hundred like a sailboat of same size. So the mechanical winches were installed, sail plans simplified, emergency engines mounted, and last cargo-carrying sail ships actually had remarkably small crews, not much larger than steamships, with sailors almost never going aloft. But ''then'' is was discovered that sailing makes an excellent practice even for steamship sailors. And so the ''tall ships'' were born a mobile classes of various marine schools, which are ''intentionally'' built in the old-fashioned way to teach the cadets what the sea really ''is''. There are several unconventional and very high performance designs that use sail-by-wire or computer controlled sail trimming... the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELL5lTE9Tek Walker Wingsail]] design is nearly [[OlderThanTheyThink 20 years old]] and the [[http://www.sailrocket.com/node/286 Vestas Sailrocket]] is a later design capable of 65 knots under sail power. There's still no substitute for something that can be repaired and driven by hand though, given that you don't want your motors to seize up or your electronics when you're several days or weeks sail away from land...

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As time passed on, though, overall Chinese economic growth meant that fewer and fewer people are willing to tolerate harsh working conditions and meager pay, so the labour labor unrest became a problem for the company. Add to that the calls for product boycotting from the labour labor action groups and displeasure from the brands itselves, themselves, [[SlaveToPR who are conscious about their image]], image]] and cue the news that Foxconn is investing astronomical sums into the automated assembly. Robots may be more expensive in the long run, but they don't make a fuss and don't [[TheDogBitesBack beat the managers half to death]].
* Sailing. No matter the size of the boat, anything from hauling the sails to changing the tack is done manually. That That's because yachts are usually cramped boats with little space for extra machinery, and because technology has a tendency to fail when least expected. Besides that, crewmembers crew members are easily moveable movable ballast where extra weight is needed. Back when steam had only started to make inroads, ''huge'' crews that sailing ships had were their second main disadvantage after their reliance on the weather. Steamboat Steamboats might've needed a place for coal and thus carry less cargo, but it they could be manned by twenty sailors instead of more than hundred like a sailboat of same size. So the mechanical winches were installed, sail plans simplified, emergency engines mounted, and last cargo-carrying sail ships actually had remarkably small crews, not much larger than steamships, with sailors almost never going aloft. But ''then'' is was discovered that sailing makes an excellent practice even for steamship sailors. And so the ''tall ships'' were born a mobile classes of various marine schools, which are ''intentionally'' built in the old-fashioned way to teach the cadets what the sea really ''is''. There are several unconventional and very high performance designs that use sail-by-wire or computer controlled sail trimming... the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELL5lTE9Tek Walker Wingsail]] design is nearly [[OlderThanTheyThink 20 years old]] and the [[http://www.sailrocket.com/node/286 Vestas Sailrocket]] is a later design capable of 65 knots under sail power. There's still no substitute for something that can be repaired and driven by hand though, given that you don't want your motors to seize up or your electronics when you're several days or weeks sail away from land...
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