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13th Mar '17 2:23:45 PM Oecchi
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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'', T.J. and [[spoiler:[[TeachersPet Menlo]], of all people]] used to be friends. [[spoiler:However, even though they don't hang out anymore, they made an agreement that T.J. would come to Menlo's birthday party every year.]]
13th Mar '17 1:39:59 PM jharrison3051
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* Creator/GwynethPaltrow and Creator/WinonaRyder were inseparable best friends in the 1990s, then were no longer on speaking terms for reasons unknown. A popular rumor is that Paltrow stole her Oscar-winning role in ''Film/ShakespeareInLove'' from Ryder, though Paltrow vehemently denies this. Paltrow hasn't spoken about the friendship but did give an interviewing vaguely referring to "a 'frenemy' who, as it turned out, was pretty hellbent on taking me down".

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* Creator/GwynethPaltrow and Creator/WinonaRyder were inseparable best friends in the 1990s, then were no longer on speaking terms for reasons unknown. A popular rumor is that Paltrow stole her Oscar-winning role in ''Film/ShakespeareInLove'' from Ryder, though Paltrow vehemently denies this. Paltrow hasn't spoken about the friendship but did give an interviewing interview vaguely referring to "a 'frenemy' who, as it turned out, was pretty hellbent on taking me down".
13th Mar '17 1:38:30 PM jharrison3051
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* Kenan Thompson and Kel Mitchell were a ubiquitous duo in the 1990s, starring together in ''Series/KenanAndKel'' and ''Film/GoodBurger'', but by the 2010s [[http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/23/kel-mitchell-kenan-thompson-feud-fallout/ Kel claimed]] that Kenan was actively avoiding him. In 2015 [[http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/kenan-and-kel-reunite-for-amazing-good-burger-sketch-with-fallon-2015249 Jimmy Fallon]] took it upon himself to reunite them.
12th Mar '17 3:25:19 PM Xtifr
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* Vercingetorix and Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, if the latter is to be believed.

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* Vercingetorix and Creator/GaiusJuliusCaesar, UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar, if the latter is to be believed.
9th Mar '17 8:47:05 PM Jaro7788
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* [[UsefulNotes/China China's]] Communist Party seems to regard its nationalist counterpart headquatered in Taiwan in this way. The two parties have common origins as well as a long history of opposing the Japanese. In the ooverwhelmingly popular Mainland Chinese war dramas you'd be surprised how many positive characters are nationalists (who were admittedly much more active in the anti-Japanese resistance) rather than communists. It seems that the party line states the nationalists were a decent bunch that just got hijacked by the overly ambitious and capitalist-influenced Chiang Kai-shek shortly after the war, and even Chiang Kai-shek himself is seen more as a TragicVillain who just made the mistake of pulling off an ill-fated FaceHeelTurn (his wife, for instance, a patron of China's air forces, is widely revered as a war heroine throughout the country).

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* [[UsefulNotes/China [[{{UsefulNotes/China}} China's]] Communist Party seems to regard its nationalist counterpart headquatered in Taiwan in this way. The two parties have common origins as well as a long history of opposing the Japanese. In the ooverwhelmingly popular Mainland Chinese war dramas you'd be surprised how many positive characters are nationalists (who were admittedly much more active in the anti-Japanese resistance) rather than communists. It seems that the party line states the nationalists were a decent bunch that just got hijacked by the overly ambitious and capitalist-influenced Chiang Kai-shek shortly after the war, and even Chiang Kai-shek himself is seen more as a TragicVillain who just made the mistake of pulling off an ill-fated FaceHeelTurn (his wife, for instance, a patron of China's air forces, is widely revered as a war heroine throughout the country).
9th Mar '17 8:45:37 PM Jaro7788
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* [[UsefulNotes/China China's]] Communist Party seems to regard its nationalist counterpart headquatered in Taiwan in this way. The two parties have common origins as well as a long history of opposing the Japanese. In the ooverwhelmingly popular Mainland Chinese war dramas you'd be surprised how many positive characters are nationalists (who were admittedly much more active in the anti-Japanese resistance) rather than communists. It seems that the party line states the nationalists were a decent bunch that just got hijacked by the overly ambitious and capitalist-influenced Chiang Kai-shek shortly after the war, and even Chiang Kai-shek himself is seen more as a TragicVillain who just made the mistake of pulling off an ill-fated FaceHeelTurn (his wife, for instance, a patron of China's air forces, is widely revered as a war heroine throughout the country).
** It's also important to note that capitalists (or bourgeoisie) in China are not as vehemently hated as, say, they were in the Soviet Union since their attempt at bringing down the colonial rule by toppling the Imperial monarchy and later contribution to the anti-Japanese war effort are both well remembered and noted in the official history textbooks. In short, capitalism is not as much an enemy ideology as just one that didn't quite work out for China in spite of its good intentions, especially compared to socialism.
4th Mar '17 8:17:50 AM Valiona
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** ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4 Golden]]'': Under the right conditions, namely [[spoiler:getting the Jester Social Link to Rank 6 you can invoke this on the killer when their identity is revealed. The killer calls you out on your naivete and threatens to shoot you.

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** ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4 Golden]]'': Under the right conditions, namely [[spoiler:getting the Jester Social Link to Rank 6 before November 5 and then confronting the killer alone]], you can invoke this on the killer when their identity is revealed. The killer calls you out on your naivete and threatens to shoot you.
4th Mar '17 8:04:44 AM Valiona
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** In the pilot, Saburo and Kuroda, two fellow artists, were friends until the latter took over the former's job as head of the Council on Cultural Advancement, which resulted in [[KlingonPromotion Saburo stabbing Kuroda in an attempt to get the job back]]. Kuroda survived, but became cynical, bitter and unwilling to trust others. Saburo, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feeling guilty]] and apparently wanting to be friends again, painted his last work, "Symbol," as a symbol of trust and friendship, before [[DrivenToSuicide killing himself]].



* [[Manga/MuhyoAndRoji Muhyo]] and Yoichi with Enchu. The three were close friends in the academy, but Muhyo and Enchu were considered for the position of Executor; Enchu was desperate to get the position so that he could support his sick mother while Muhyo didn't want it. Enchu losing his mother and the position in quick succession was his StartOfDarkness, as he became obsesssed with revenge against Muhyo.

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* [[Manga/MuhyoAndRoji Muhyo]] and Yoichi with Enchu. The three were close friends in the academy, but Muhyo and Enchu were considered for the position of Executor; Enchu was desperate to get the position so that he could support his sick mother while Muhyo didn't want it. Enchu losing his mother and the position in quick succession was his StartOfDarkness, as he became obsesssed obsessed with revenge against Muhyo.



** There's something of a three-way version of this between Erza, Jellal and their fellow slaves at the Tower of Heaven. After they managed to overthrow their captors, Erza saved Jellal, but learned that he'd been brainwashed into wanting to resurrect Zeref[[note]]He's actually not dead, but that's beside the point here[[/note]]. Jellal allows Erza to leave, but does so while threatening to kill their other friends if she tries to do anything to stop him, while simultaneously deceiving the others into thinking she betrayed them by destroying their escape ship. Years later, Jellal finishes building the tower and has his other friends kidnap Erza to use her as a sacrifice, but she manages to get them to see the truth, and Simon sacrifices himself to save Erza. Now, the situation's reversed, with Erza reconciling with her friends and forgiving Jellal after seeing him [[TheAtoner work to atone for his crimes]], while her old friend Millianna teams up with Simon's younger sister Kagura to get revenge on Jellal.



* ''Anime/VividStrike'': Fuka and Rinne grew up in an orphanage together, but Rinne's adoption by a rich family made her cold and aloof (this wasn't the actual reason for the change, but Fuka was under the impression that it was). This led to their falling out about a year before the story picks up when Fuka confronted Rinne about her treatment of one of her opponents in a martial arts match. What makes this notable is that it is the first time in the entire ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' franchise (which runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and people being HappilyAdopted) that a friendship is shown to fall apart.

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* ''Anime/VividStrike'': Fuka and Rinne grew up in an orphanage together, but Rinne's adoption by a rich family made her cold and aloof (this wasn't the actual reason for the change, but Fuka was under the impression that it was). This led to their falling out about a year before the story picks up when Fuka confronted Rinne about her treatment of one of her opponents in a martial arts match. What makes this notable is that it is the first time a rare occasion in the entire ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' franchise (which runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and people being HappilyAdopted) that a friendship is shown to fall apart.apart.
** In ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', Regius Gaiz and Zest were two friends in the TSAB's Ground Forces who were frustrated with a lack of resources available to their branch of the Bureau, so Regius decided to work his way up the ranks and do something about it. Unfortunately, Regius became increasingly corrupt in the process, as well as complicit with the TSAB's darker side. After Zest and most of his subordinates were killed during an attack on [[BigBad Jail]] [[MadScientist Scaglietti's]] base, Zest's clone, who had all the original's memories, sought Regius out for answers as to why he became the person he is today. Their friendship never recovered, but Zest was shocked when Regius died at the hands of Due.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheFoxAndTheHound'' starts off with the two titular characters frolicking and playing as children, but when they become adults and Copper is now a hunting dog, an accident involving the two leads where Copper's mentor chief is nearly killed, Copper ends their friendship and swears revenge.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFoxAndTheHound'' starts off with the two titular characters frolicking and playing as children, but when they become adults and Copper is now a hunting dog, an accident involving the two leads where Copper's mentor chief mentor, Chief, is nearly killed, Copper ends their friendship and swears revenge.revenge. In the end, the two reconcile, but are forced to part ways forever.



* This is what happens to Anna and Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}.'' Elsa shuts Anna out of her life and refuses to play with her. Anna is convinced that Elsa doesn't love her anymore. However, Elsa did this because she wanted to protect Anna from [[IAmAMonster herself]]. This is because Elsa accidentally almost killed Anna with her powers when they were playing. Then, Elsa turns into an AntiVillain, and ends up [[spoiler:striking Anna in her heart resulting in her DisneyDeath.]] However, Anna [[TheDeterminator refuses to give up on Elsa]] and continues to [[ThePowerOfLove love her]], believing that they can once again become friends. [[spoiler:Anna even goes as far as making a HeroicSacrifice for Elsa, and saving herself from her DisneyDeath since this was an ActOfTrueLove. After Elsa realizes that love fixes everything, [[HeterosexualLifePartners she becomes best friends with Anna]].]]

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* This is what happens to Anna and Elsa in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}.'' Elsa shuts Anna out of her life and refuses to play with her. Anna is convinced that Elsa doesn't love her anymore. However, Elsa did this because she wanted to protect Anna from [[IAmAMonster herself]]. This is because Elsa accidentally almost killed Anna with her powers when they were playing. Then, During an argument between the two at Elsa's coronation, Elsa turns into an AntiVillain, loses control of her powers again, forcing her to flee and ends up [[spoiler:striking causing Anna in her heart resulting in her DisneyDeath.]] to realize what Elsa had kept hidden all these years. However, Anna [[TheDeterminator refuses to give up on Elsa]] and continues to [[ThePowerOfLove love her]], believing that they can once again become friends. [[spoiler:Anna even goes as far as making a HeroicSacrifice for Elsa, and saving herself from her DisneyDeath since this was an ActOfTrueLove. After Elsa realizes that love fixes everything, [[HeterosexualLifePartners she becomes best friends with Anna]].]]



* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'': Happened to Akihiko/Mitsuru and Shinjiro, though without the FaceHeelTurn.
** ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4 Golden]]'': Under the right conditions, you can invoke this on the killer when their identity is revealed. The killer calls you out on your naivete and threatens to shoot you.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'': Happened to Akihiko/Mitsuru and Shinjiro, though without the FaceHeelTurn.
FaceHeelTurn. The three were the founding members of SEES, but after an incident in which Shinjiro's Persona went out of control, [[spoiler:killing Ken's mother]], Shinjiro distanced himself from the group, resulting in many bitter quarrels with Akihiko. Later in the game, Shinjiro rejoins the team, but things remain tense between him and Akihiko until [[spoiler:Shinjiro dies protecting Ken]].
** ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} Persona 4 Golden]]'': Under the right conditions, namely [[spoiler:getting the Jester Social Link to Rank 6 you can invoke this on the killer when their identity is revealed. The killer calls you out on your naivete and threatens to shoot you.you.
** Also from the fourth game, there's Chie's friendship with Takeshi, whom you meet on Chie's Social Link. Chie and Takeshi have known each other a long time, but Chie is somewhat uncomfortable with Takeshi's infatuation with Chie's best friend, Yukiko, and it's clear that Chie and Takeshi are more distant than they used to be. Later on in the link, though, during an argument over Takeshi's refusal to admit that he ran away from a gang of bullies, Takeshi notices how Yukiko has changed and become more openly cheerful, laughing at the strangest things, and accuses Chie of causing this. Chie angrily points out that this is Yukiko's real personality, and the two part on bad terms, never to be seen together again.



** Sadly played straight with Aqua to her friends Terra and Ventus, though in both cases, they are possessed. And with Master Xehanort towards Master Eraqus, to the point of [[spoiler: using Terra, who sees Eraqus as his father, to weaken him]].

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** Sadly played straight with Aqua to her friends Terra and Ventus, though Ventus. Aqua and Terra take the Mark of Mastery exam together, but only Aqua passes due to Terra losing control of the darkness within his heart. Eraqus gives the two of them a mission, which, for Terra, is a second chance to prove himself worthy, but also secretly tells Aqua to bring Terra back if he starts to succumb to darkness, and tasks her with finding Ventus when he goes after Terra. While Aqua tries to believe in both cases, Terra and even argues in his favor, she also becomes concerned about his actions, and Terra and Ventus [[WhatTheHellHero don't take it well]] when they are possessed. And with hear about Aqua's mission. This dispute is never fully resolved for the rest of the game, but the friends continue to care for each other, to the point of being willing to sacrifice just about anything for each other.
** Also from Birth By Sleep, there's
Master Xehanort towards Master Eraqus, to the point of [[spoiler: using Terra, who sees Eraqus. The two were fellow Keyblade apprentices, but Xehanort injured Eraqus during an argument. Later on, there appeared to be some reconciliation when Eraqus willingly agreed to look after Ventus for Xehanort, [[spoiler:not knowing that Ventus had ended up that way as his father, a result of Xehanort forcibly extracting the darkness from Ventus]]. Eventually, [[spoiler:Eraqus realizes that Xehanort is plotting something, and planning to weaken him]].use Ventus to make the X-blade, so Eraqus tries to kill Ventus, resulting in Terra fighting and defeating Eraqus and Xehanort finishing Eraqus off]].
25th Feb '17 7:54:32 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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*** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} regarded Luthor as a kind of father figure… until she learned that [[spoiler:he murdered her baby [[Franchise/{{Superman}} cousin]]]].

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*** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} regarded Luthor as a kind of father figure… figure... until she learned that [[spoiler:he murdered her baby [[Franchise/{{Superman}} cousin]]]].



-->“I… I… thoughts not mine… Ritsuko my… friend? I… I didn’t want to believe… fed up with her… fed up… had to hit that bitch. Had to hit that bitch! Feel her flesh crumple beneath my fist… yeah, just hit her, just make her shut up. Shut up! Shut up!”

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-->“I… I… -->“I... I... thoughts not mine… mine... Ritsuko my… my... friend? I… I... I didn’t want to believe… believe... fed up with her… her... fed up… up... had to hit that bitch. Had to hit that bitch! Feel her flesh crumple beneath my fist… fist... yeah, just hit her, just make her shut up. Shut up! Shut up!”



Meaning he had no choice but to treat her as an enemy. Someone he had known for close to a decade and he thought he knew well…and thought of as a friend.\\

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Meaning he had no choice but to treat her as an enemy. Someone he had known for close to a decade and he thought he knew well…and well... and thought of as a friend.\\



** This really becomes a SubvertedTrope because scenes showing him in a mental institution afterwards show that after the initial shock, his friends are actually very supportive, visiting him and trying to help him recover. They know that he's still their friend, he was just [[spoiler:indoctrinated by what passes for an Evil Mastermind into doing his bidding]] because, despite his high intelligence, he is [[TheIngenue ridiculously naive]] and was [[CorruptTheCutie taken advantage of]]. Everyone is more...[[WhatTheHellHero baffled]] than feeling betrayed.

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** This really becomes a SubvertedTrope because scenes showing him in a mental institution afterwards show that after the initial shock, his friends are actually very supportive, visiting him and trying to help him recover. They know that he's still their friend, he was just [[spoiler:indoctrinated by what passes for an Evil Mastermind into doing his bidding]] because, despite his high intelligence, he is [[TheIngenue ridiculously naive]] and was [[CorruptTheCutie taken advantage of]]. Everyone is more... [[WhatTheHellHero baffled]] than feeling betrayed.



* In ''Webcomic/{{Consolers}}'', Nintendo and Sony used to work together on a SNES add-on and were pretty decent friends... [[spoiler: until Nintendo finds out Sony rewrote the contract to get most of the profits himself.]] She ends up cancelling the deal (in front of a huge audience), Sony makes his own console as revenge and they become industry competitors.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Consolers}}'', Nintendo and Sony used to work together on a SNES add-on and were pretty decent friends... [[spoiler: until [[spoiler:until Nintendo finds out Sony rewrote the contract to get most of the profits himself.]] She ends up cancelling the deal (in front of a huge audience), Sony makes his own console as revenge and they become industry competitors.



-->'''Jamukha:''' "What use is there in my becoming a companion to you? On the contrary, sworn brother, in the black night I would haunt your dreams, in the bright day I would trouble your heart. I would be the louse in your collar, I would become the splinter in your door-panel… as there was room for only one sun in the sky, there was room only for one Mongol lord."

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-->'''Jamukha:''' "What use is there in my becoming a companion to you? On the contrary, sworn brother, in the black night I would haunt your dreams, in the bright day I would trouble your heart. I would be the louse in your collar, I would become the splinter in your door-panel… door-panel... as there was room for only one sun in the sky, there was room only for one Mongol lord."



* UsefulNotes/VladimirLenin and UsefulNotes/JosephStalin are sometimes percieved as friends thanks to their Communist sympathies, and that eventually Lenin saw Stalin as too violent and wrote to UsefulNotes/LeonTrotsky to ask him to unite to try and get rid of Stalin.

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* UsefulNotes/VladimirLenin and UsefulNotes/JosephStalin are sometimes percieved perceived as friends thanks to their Communist sympathies, and that eventually Lenin saw Stalin as too violent and wrote to UsefulNotes/LeonTrotsky to ask him to unite to try and get rid of Stalin.
21st Feb '17 6:27:37 PM nombretomado
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** And in CrisisCore [[spoiler:Zack and Angeal in addition to Sephiroth and Genesis]].

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** And in CrisisCore ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' [[spoiler:Zack and Angeal in addition to Sephiroth and Genesis]].
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