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8th Jul '17 1:37:07 PM MadCat221
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* ''Film/{{Wonder Woman|2017}}'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Erich Ludendorff]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Ludendorff is really Ares, the God of War, in disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].

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* ''Film/{{Wonder Woman|2017}}'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Erich Ludendorff]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already effectively lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Ludendorff is really Ares, the God of War, in disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].
27th Jun '17 5:49:14 PM Shadao
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* ''Film/{{Wonder Woman|2017}}'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Erich Ludendorff]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].

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* ''Film/{{Wonder Woman|2017}}'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Erich Ludendorff]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Luddendorf Ludendorff is really Ares Ares, the God of War, in disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].
27th Jun '17 1:37:49 AM PaulA
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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares [[spoiler:(who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the side of the ''Allies'')]] reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].

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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' ''Film/{{Wonder Woman|2017}}'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] Erich Ludendorff]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares [[spoiler:(who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the side of the ''Allies'')]] reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].
27th Jun '17 1:35:17 AM Shadao
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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares [[spoiler:(who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the side of the ''Allies'')]] reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreBastards They went to war by their own choice]].

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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that [[GodInHumanForm Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise disguise]] and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares [[spoiler:(who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the side of the ''Allies'')]] reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreBastards [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters They went to war by their own choice]].
27th Jun '17 12:14:38 AM Shadao
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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares (who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the side of the ''Allies'') reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreBastards They went to war by their own choice]].

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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue to fight and the ''real'' Ares (who [[spoiler:(who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the side of the ''Allies'') ''Allies'')]] reveals that while he did gave humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never pushed them into war... [[HumansAreBastards They went to war by their own choice]].
27th Jun '17 12:12:50 AM Shadao
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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon to murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise and that killing him would end the war immediately. When she finally did kill him, to her dismay, the Germans still continue the war and the ''real'' Ares (who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the ''Allied'' side) reveals that while he did gave humanity new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never directly pushed them into war... They went to war by their own choice.

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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon to that can murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise and that killing him would end the war immediately. [[DeathByAdaptation When she finally did kill him, him]], to her dismay, the Germans still continue the war to fight and the ''real'' Ares (who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the ''Allied'' side) side of the ''Allies'') reveals that while he did gave humanity humans new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never directly pushed them into war... [[HumansAreBastards They went to war by their own choice.
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27th Jun '17 12:08:35 AM Shadao
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* ''Film/WonderWoman'' features [[ANaziByAnyOtherName General Enrich Luddendorf]] as the primary BigBad. He is given a HistoricalVillainUpgrade with him murdering the German High Command and intending to continue UsefulNotes/WorldWarI (that the Germans already lost) with a new gas weapon to murder hundreds of civilians. This, combined with his WarIsGlorious speech, convinces Wonder Woman that Luddendorf is really Ares in disguise and that killing him would end the war immediately. When she finally did kill him, to her dismay, the Germans still continue the war and the ''real'' Ares (who was really Sir Patrick Morgan on the ''Allied'' side) reveals that while he did gave humanity new weapons and formulas over the eons, he never directly pushed them into war... They went to war by their own choice.
12th Jun '17 4:58:47 PM Nentuaby
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** There's a joke in the fandom that the reason Hitler went insane(er) was from [[GoMadFromTheRevelation realizing]] he was the only normal human being around.

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** Seriously, though-- ''inverted'', not ''averted.'' The lack of supernatural involvement in the Nazi atrocities is distinctly notable in a world that otherwise takes BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy to its limits. There's a joke in the fandom that the reason Hitler went insane(er) was from [[GoMadFromTheRevelation realizing]] he was the only ''only'' normal human being around.
2nd Apr '17 12:31:32 PM nombretomado
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* Played with in ''{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin''. Hitler is apparently revived using the power of rumors and a conspiracy theory that he escaped the bunker instead of committing suicide; however, [[spoiler: it's revealed that ''this'' Hitler is actually none other than [[Creator/HPLovecraft Nyarlatothep]]]].

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* Played with in ''{{Persona 2}}: ''VideoGame/Persona2: Innocent Sin''. Hitler is apparently revived using the power of rumors and a conspiracy theory that he escaped the bunker instead of committing suicide; however, [[spoiler: it's revealed that ''this'' Hitler is actually none other than [[Creator/HPLovecraft Nyarlatothep]]]].
19th Feb '17 12:57:58 AM PaulA
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* In Creator/OrsonScottCard's ''TheMagicBox'', the protagonist struggles with a villain who wants to unleash an evil entity on the world. It's explicitly stated that UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was caused by the entity the last time it was released. Whether it directly possessed Hitler or effected the world in a more general way is never stated.
* ''TheDresdenFiles'': Bob, in no uncertain terms, claims that the evil necromancer Kemmler is ultimately responsible for WWII (he works with corpses and needed raw materials). Whether or not he's involved specifically with Hitler is less clear.

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* In Creator/OrsonScottCard's ''TheMagicBox'', ''Literature/TheMagicBox'', the protagonist struggles with a villain who wants to unleash an evil entity on the world. It's explicitly stated that UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was caused by the entity the last time it was released. Whether it directly possessed Hitler or effected the world in a more general way is never stated.
* ''TheDresdenFiles'': ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': Bob, in no uncertain terms, claims that the evil necromancer Kemmler is ultimately responsible for WWII (he works with corpses and needed raw materials). Whether or not he's involved specifically with Hitler is less clear.
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