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30th May '17 5:42:57 AM JackG
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** The Doctor lampshades the trope in "The Woman Who Lived", when Me wants to travel with him as a companion. The Doctor points out that two immortal beings traveling together is not a good idea (then the trope impacts the Doctor again when he meets up with his current companion and realises that she'll be gone someday too, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever while he'll be forced to go on]]).

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** The Doctor lampshades the trope in "The Woman Who Lived", when Lived". When Me wants to travel with him as a companion. The companion, the Doctor points out that two immortal beings traveling together is not a good idea (then idea. (And then the trope impacts the Doctor again when he meets up with his current companion at the end of the episode and realises that she'll be gone someday too, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever while he'll be forced to go on]]).
30th May '17 5:40:56 AM JackG
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** The Doctor lampshades the trope in "The Woman Who Lived", when Me wants to travel with him as a companion. The Doctor points out that two immortal beings traveling together is not a good idea (then the trope impacts the Doctor again when he meets up with his current companion and realises that she'll be gone someday too, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever while he'll be forced to go on]]).
-->'''The Doctor:''' People like us, we go on too long. We forget what matters. The last thing we need is each other. We need the mayflies. See, the mayflies, they know more than we do. They know how beautiful and precious life is because it's fleeting. Look how Sam Swift made every last moment count, right to the gallows. Look how glad he is to be alive. I looked into your eyes and I saw my worst fears. Weariness. Emptiness.
25th May '17 5:01:07 AM AnotherDuck
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* Some species of tree can live for ''thousands'' of years. The oldest known tree on Earth is Methuselah, which is estimated at 4,841 years old. To put it into perspective, it predates almost all but the very oldest surviving written records, it predates almost all of the surviving religions, and (barely) predates the construction of the pyramids. Before Methuselah claimed the title, Prometheus was the world's oldest tree, at over 5,000 years old, until it was chopped down in 1964. As a protective measure, Methuselah's exact location has not been revealed to the public. The most bizarre part is, Methuselah is still fruitful, producing viable seeds each season.
** At least one other tree in Methuselah's grove has been found to be older, but its exact location was never revealed for the exact same reason.
** Clonal colonies of aspen trees, coral polyps, and fungal mycelia can potentially live as long if not longer, if the deaths of individual trees/polyps/patches are disregarded and the lifespan of the colony as a whole is considered. Some networks of fungal strands are thought to date back to the end of the last Ice Age, when the forests with which they share a symbiosis first became established. One such plant, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_%28tree%29 Pando, the ''Trembling Giant'']], dates back ''80,000'' years.
** King Clone, the creosote bush that's estimated at over 11,000 years old.
** There was a ginkgo tree in Kamakura (at the Hachimanguu Shrine) that was over 2,000 years old. The tree was uprooted and destroyed in a storm in March, 2010.
** Another tree, also named Methusaleh, spent nearly 2,000 years as a seed before it was planted and grew, to the astonishment of the botanists studying it. Why such a big deal? It was the last surviving specimen of Israeli Date Palm, which was previously thought to be extinct.
** Most sakura trees in the world, those that belong to the ever-popular somei-yoshino variety, are essentially clones of the single hybrid tree bred in early XIX century somewhere in Somei district of the old Edo ([[UsefulNotes/{{Tokyo}} now in Toshima ward]]) on the basis of the old Yoshino cultivar brought there from Nara.[[note]]Yoshino being the village near Nara famous for its cherry orchards.[[/note]] 200 years is not as old as most other examples here, but it's still essentially the same tree, and we'll propagate it for as long as the cherry blossom viewing will remain popular.
* Many sea creatures can live a very long time thanks to their slow metabolic rates.
** Although they're very poorly studied, it's been estimated from their growth rates and metabolism that blue whales can live well into their third century. At least one bowhead whale was killed recently that was found to have part of a harpoon from the 1800s embedded in its body.
** Some claim the jellyfish ''Turritopsis nutricula'' is essentially immortal. After reaching adulthood and reproducing the jellies can then revert to childhood and do it all over again. So far, no one really knows how many cycles they can go through; theoretically, an endless amount.
* Some species of turtle can live for more than a century, and there are claims of twice that.
** Same goes with the tuatara, a reptile from New Zealand.
* [[http://www.extremescience.com/OldestLivingThing.htm The oldest surviving bacteria are 250 million years old]]. (Although they've been frozen their whole lives.)
** If one considers the two bacteria that result from a bacterium dividing to be the same bacteria, then all bacteria on Earth date back to almost the beginning of life.
* Due to a quirk of their genetics, lobsters cannot die of old age. As they age, they just grow larger and larger. Being too large is a serious disadvantage when it comes to competing for food supplies against other, tougher predators, so few lobsters live past 15 years. Theoretically, though, there could be centuries-old gigantic lobsters scuttling about on the bottom of the ocean floor. Though saying that lobsters cannot die of old age is not true: due to the SquareCubeLaw, it'll eventually reach a size where it can no longer function properly.
* Deep-sea tubeworms about methane "cold seeps" have been calculated to live for more than 200 years, based on their glacially-slow metabolism and the time it takes them to build up the structure of their tubes.
* There's a potted cycad in Kew Gardens that's older than American Independence.
* Undersea bacteria living in seafloor sediments have rates of division so slow [[http://atheistuniverse.net/group/science/forum/topics/86-million-year-old-bacteria-still-alive-in-deep-ocean-mud?xg_source=activity they divide once 1000 years or more]].
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24th May '17 9:01:26 PM lalalei2001
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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' plays with the trope by having Alteans naturally live long enough that Coran, being 'middle-aged', is at least in his 600s if you ignore the 10,000 years of cryo freezing.

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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' plays with the trope by having Alteans naturally live long enough that Coran, being 'middle-aged', is at least in his 600s if you ignore the 10,000 years of cryo freezing.stasis. It's also largely irrelevant because there are only two [[spoiler:actually three]] Alteans left alive.
24th May '17 8:59:39 PM lalalei2001
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* ''WesternAnimation/VoltronLegendaryDefender'' plays with the trope by having Alteans naturally live long enough that Coran, being 'middle-aged', is at least in his 600s if you ignore the 10,000 years of cryo freezing.
24th May '17 4:11:47 PM Madrugada
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(Interestingly, according to [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} That Other Wiki]], ''adult'' mayflies live from around thirty minutes to one day, but the "naiad" stage, ''before'' adulthood, can last from months to years. Also, the only reason they're so short-lived is because the adult phase, being so thoroughly specialized for breeding, has no mouthparts. To a mayfly, it's probably the latter part of the nymph stage that's true adulthood.)
24th May '17 2:07:10 PM Discar
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* Corporal Vog of ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' is about 12 million years old. He says 'about' because there is a margin of error converting to human timescales. The margin of error in his math covers more time than the existence of the human race.
** More recently [[GeneralRipper Xinchub]] admitted that humanity wasn't very well suited to pursuing immortality like the "Project Lazarus" he'd been in charge of because we're one of the shorter-lived species in the galaxy. Putting a species ''that'' unfamiliar with long life in charge of immortality would be, in his words, like "putting vegetarians in charge of a barbeque".

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* Corporal Vog of ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' is about 12 million years old. He says 'about' because there is a margin of error converting to human timescales. The margin of error in his math covers more time than the existence of the human race.
** More recently
race. Later [[GeneralRipper Xinchub]] admitted that humanity wasn't very well suited to pursuing immortality like the "Project Lazarus" he'd been in charge of because we're one of the shorter-lived species in the galaxy. Putting a species ''that'' unfamiliar with long life in charge of immortality would be, in his words, like "putting vegetarians in charge of a barbeque".
9th May '17 12:02:16 PM nighttrainfm
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* Mostly averted in ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Although the asari and krogan have natural lifespans of about a thousand years, other species live no longer than humans, if even as long as that.[[note]]Futuretech medical science means the average human lives to ~150[[/note]] Drell live about 85 years due to medical complications [[note]]They come from an arid world, and most species' worlds/modified environments are humid enough to cause an uncureable disease in drell lungs[[/note]], salarians only about 40 (though they spend far less time sleeping), and vorcha only 20. [[BloodKnight And it's pretty rare for a krogan to die of natural causes.]]
** Sovereign also uses the trope when talking about organic species compared to his own race of machines, but then, [[spoiler: they give the organics [[OmnicidalManiac little chance to prove them wrong]]]].
*** Part of the Reaper motivation is actually [[spoiler:their belief that by converting organics into new Reapers they're actually doing us a favor by granting us immortality]].
** There's evidence that krogans may [[TheAgeless actually be immortal if they don't die a violent death.]] Though as previously mentioned, it's rare for them ''not'' to.

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* Mostly averted in ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Although the asari and krogan ''Franchise/MassEffect'' zig-zags this:
** Asari
have natural lifespans of about a thousand years, other and krogan of about ''1,500'' years - although most [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy tend to die before that.]] Other species live no longer than humans, if even as long as that.[[note]]Futuretech that - future medical science means the average human lives to ~150[[/note]] around 150. Drell live about 85 years due to medical complications [[note]]They come from an arid world, and most species' worlds/modified environments are humid enough to cause an uncureable disease in drell lungs[[/note]], salarians only about 40 (though they spend far less time sleeping), and vorcha only 20. [[BloodKnight And it's pretty rare for a krogan to die of natural causes.]]
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** Sovereign also uses the trope when talking about organic species compared to his own race of machines, but then, [[spoiler: they give the organics [[OmnicidalManiac little chance to prove them wrong]]]].
*** Part
wrong]].]] Indeed, part of the Reaper motivation is actually [[spoiler:their belief that by converting organics into new Reapers they're actually doing us a favor by granting us immortality]].
** There's evidence that krogans may [[TheAgeless actually be immortal if they don't die a violent death.]] Though as previously mentioned, it's rare for them ''not'' to.
immortality.]]
17th Apr '17 4:04:17 AM Yukianesa
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** On the flip side, Tau and Kroot have natural less-than-human life expectancies (around 40 year in the Tau case, though Kroot can prolong their lives by assimilating the DNA of longer-lived creatures).

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** On the flip side, Tau and Kroot have natural less-than-human life expectancies (around 40 year in the Tau case, though Kroot can prolong their lives by assimilating the DNA of longer-lived creatures). Their awareness of their pitifully short lifespans probably at least partially explains her hyper-ambition.



** Chaos Marines, due to the power gained by being card-carrying members of the LegionsOfHell and living in a NegativeSpaceWedgie, live for thousands or tens of thousands of years.

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** Chaos Marines, due to the power gained by being card-carrying members of the LegionsOfHell and living in a NegativeSpaceWedgie, NegativeSpaceWedgie where "time" and "continuity" are more guidelines than set rules, live for thousands or tens of thousands of years.years. Some of the traitor astartes like Kharn, Ahriman, Lucius and [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Eliphas]] were actually alive during the Great Crusade and have been reported killed a few times, but [[JokerImmunity like any good villain they just resurface eventually]].
4th Apr '17 8:51:01 AM Kafkesque
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* A complicated example in ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'': The trope is averted by default, with all species sharing a standard human-like lifespan of 70-90 years. However, this can be tweaked by racial traits; "Enduring" and "Venerable" species get moderately or significantly extended lifespans compared to the baseline, while "Fleeting" species are much shorter-lived.

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* A complicated example in ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'': The trope is averted by default, with all species sharing a standard human-like lifespan of 70-90 years.years[[note]]Prior to researching any life-extending technology, anyway[[/note]]. However, this can be tweaked by racial traits; "Enduring" and "Venerable" species get moderately or significantly extended lifespans compared to the baseline, while "Fleeting" species are much shorter-lived.
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